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Inclusion of fan-site link on poorly populated guide
As per this discussion, I wanted to give other admins an opportunity to weigh in on the matter and provide their opinions. Thanks for your time.  Pro cyon  20:20, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's directly competitive to our site, so unless the linking is two-way like with our partners, my opinion is definitely not. The only external links we should provide are to resources outside our scope and they should go in an "External links" section at the bottom of the main guide page, not in the intro. Also, non-admin should feel free to opine as well. :D (P.S. should the title of this section not be "on poorly populated guide"?) — najzere T 02:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Duly noted, thanks Naj ;)  Pro  cyon  03:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Linking to a given site isn't the best thing to do. In particular, it's places focus on one fansite over another, especially since the given fansite might not be the primary resource used by fans (even if it's the most popular). Since fan sites compete with each other, there's a good chance that some may be abandoned and users migrate to another one. Since the official site lists the fansites, it's better to link there instead and let the Urban Rivals community decide from there. Also, linking shouldn't be necessary since guides should be standalone, and with links being reserved for non-game information (e.g. as is done with the NIWA partners when appropriate) or for providing proof for contested information. Guides, and other forms of more permanent references, should try to be standalone to avoid having important parts disappear. --Sigma 7 05:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got to agree with you. Despite being rather late I wanted to add an opinion. An issue like linking fansites should not rely on how populated a page is. A diversion doesn't seem like the spirit of Strategywiki to me since it would not encourage people to fill in the gaps here over following the link. For outside unofficial sites it would be best if they are as complete/active as Bulbapedia and the Zelda Wiki. They don't really seem to do walkthroughs so it is a mutual benefit to partner up for both parties. If we don't have at least one dedicated person over here working on a guide for a game or franchise I can't see a major fansite for one wanting to partner up as well so the underpopulated concept may be a variable for that. It doesn't seem fair to send out an olive branch if we aren't trying to be a good partner as well. I do like that our current partners are active enough I'm not worried that they may disappear or die off in a few years. --Zaiqukaj 06:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * If we all worked hard on this we probably could get added as a fan site, too. Unless the site has some really useful script/tool that can't be copied, I wouldn't link to it.  -- 15:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Bug list
Feel free to add anything you spot to the list.


 * 1) Classes for tag need to be updated for the "small" functionality that used to have a mouseover box on the right in BlueCloud. This actually still works in Monobook. I don't know if we just want to get rid of this functionality all together, or make it work in all skins. (Dolphin, Vector, Monobook).
 * 2) *Here's a new tag template based on the look of Wikipedia's cleanup tags: User:Najzere/Tag. This goes away completely from the "hidden", expandable box that used to go off to the side. It's pretty simple, just puts a normal box at the top like stub does, or a smaller one for sections. Here are examples: test cases. Each header box template would set its own colors/icons or use a standard one and we could make a multiple issues style template to combine them. The header_box class could be updated with the new styles and developer_header_box could be removed completely. — Najzere  ·  Talk  16:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) * And here is the multiple issues template, also added to the test cases. — Najzere  ·  Talk  18:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) **I like this. Would the currently invisible templates (needinfobox, needcat, etc.) be merged into this? -- Garrett (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) ***I'd still like to bring back the "tagging" feature. They could probably be added something like a toolbox on the side.  Perhaps a "tagbox" or something. -- Prod (Talk) 04:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) ***Yes, it's set up to include needinfobox and needcat, but we don't need to include any that we want to be category-only, with no messaging. Also I left some out that I thought should always be their own separate banner, like delete and future. — Najzere  ·  Talk  17:03, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Done

 * 1) First off, if BlueCloud is completely killed, can everyone's preferences be updated to Dolphin automatically?
 * 2) * Done. -- Prod (Talk) 05:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) **Awesome thanks. — Najzere  ·  Talk  05:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) featured needs to use a class instead of inline styles to properly place the star in different skins. (Dolphin, Vector, Monobook).
 * 5) * Looks like the class was already ready, I just did some tweaking to the css rules. -- Prod (Talk) 19:58, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) Restore functionality of sortable for custom skins.
 * 7) * If anyone is having problems with this, try disabling abxy scripts, which worked for me. Likewise a fix on the abxy side may be needed.
 * 8) ** Removed the abxy script includes, so it should be working now, with new arrows too! -- Prod (Talk) 06:01, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) We need a new graphic for the top left corner in Vector and Monobook. It's clickable to get to the main page, but shouldn't be empty.
 * 10) * Same old image, but at least it isn't blank. Not the highest priority to make a new image, but it'll get updated at the same time we update any other images. -- Prod (Talk) 06:01, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 11) The   class needs to be eliminated, and I think Prod has already started that by deprecating sidebartoc.
 * 12) * All uses have been removed and the template deleted. -- Garrett (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Discussion
They just released 1.19, and I'm going to be updating to that soon (next week if no new extensions break), so expect new bugs to crop up then. -- Prod (Talk) 05:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. Have you seen the new diff engine they rolled out on Wikipedia as part of the 1.20wmf1 upgrade? Most people hate it, but I think it's pretty cool and would be perfect with a little palette enhancement. — Najzere  ·  Talk  05:36, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I still haven't accepted the fact that they managed to release 1.19 on time... -- Prod (Talk) 05:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Can we just use the Facebook logo for Monobook? -- 20:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's the right size, but it's also from the old logo, so an updated one would be good (to replace the FB one too). — Najzere  ·  Talk  00:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)