MapleStory/Thief/Builds

=Builds=

Assassins and Luk Bandits
First, get Str and Int to 4/4. Everything not in Dex, goes in Luk.


 * Level 10: Dex 25
 * Level 15: Dex 30
 * Level 20: Dex 40
 * Level 25: Dex 50
 * Level 30: Dex 60
 * Level 35: Dex 70
 * Level 40: Dex 80
 * Level 50: Dex 90
 * Level 60: Dex 100
 * Level 70: Dex 110
 * Level 80: Dex 120
 * Level 90: Dex 130

The basic stat build for Assassins and LUK bandits goes like this:

LUK values are an estimate, according to a 4 STR & 4 INT starting roll

STR Bandit build
However, STR Bandits have an slightly different build:

1st Job
Classic Bandit build

There are two builds for bandits, one for starters with no money from other accounts, and one for spoiled brats with wealthy brethrens alongside in his/her owner's account.

Why the 1 point of Double Stab so early? Simple; You got a full mana bar! You might as well use it!

Alright, not much to say here. Nimble Body helps you avoid better at lower levels (further turning down your pot cost), and you won't have enough money to spam Double Stab at lower levels anyway. I recommend that you put only 3 points into Disorder (the prerequisite for Dark Sight) and put 18 points into Dark Sight. This is for two reasons: first, while disorder may seem nice at lower levels, it works on a "flat rate" of -20 weapon defense and attack against the monster you're fighting. Against a higher-level monster that already has defense and attack levels in the hundreds, -20 will hardly be noticable, let alone useful. Also, using Dark Sight adds a penalty to your speed, which not only slows you down but cancels any effect from the Haste skill you get in second job. If you get level 18 Dark Sight while in first job, you will be able to put two points into it later for maximum (level 20) Dark Sight -- which has no speed penalty! Now you can zip through hordes of monsters unscratched, and still with your wonderful Haste.


 * Wealthy Variation: Those who have lots of money can get 20 Double Stab at lower levels, and just spam mana pots like no tomorrow. 14 MP for an average of about 120 damage isn't exactly cheap, but hey, you're wealthy, spoiled, and rolling in mana pots, you don't care. See above for arguments between Disorder and Dark Sight. Then you get Nimble Body. Levels 24-30 are the same.

Banditsin Build

2nd Job

 * Dagger Mastery (19)
 * Savage Blow (30)
 * Dagger Booster (5)
 * Haste (20)
 * Endure (20)
 * Dagger Booster (15)
 * Dark Sight/Disorder/Steal/Whatever (12)

A variation of this build is to max Savage Blow first, then Mastery and 5 booster. Let's compare the damage of two level 40 bandits with 130 LUK, 80 DEX, 5 STR, and a 52 attack dagger, one using 15% mastery max Savage Blow, one using 60% mastery double stab:

60% mastery Double Stab: Min damage 455, Max damage 746, Average Damage 601, MP cost 16, Damage/MP efficiency: 37.5 dmg/MP

15% Mastery Savage Blow: Min damage 370, Max Damage 1377.6, Average Damage 874, MP Cost 27, Damage/MP efficiency: 32.4 dmg/MP

You can see from here that if you max Mastery First, your damage will be below those who max Savage Blow first. However, your damage will also be quite stable, and your damage/MP efficiency is higher. Savage Blow first will net you bigger damage, but slightly inferiority in damage/MP efficiency and attack speed. Which one to max first, Mastery or Savage Blow, is up to you, although I'd suggest poorer players to max Mastery First.

1st Job
There are two builds for assassins, one for starters with no money from other accounts, and one for people who already have a resonable amount of money from other accounts.

Keen Eyes is a must-max. You MUST have range to train efficiently. 10 points in lucky seven helps you to be able to kill things left and right in pig beach (which is actually pretty profitable), and you max Lucky Seven at level 25, at a point where you can train on green mushrooms. Disorder is nearly useless for assassins since it forces you to go melee.

Why the 1 point of Lucky Sevens so early? Simple; You got a full mana bar! You might as well use it!


 * Wealthy Build variation: Max Lucky Seven after Keen Eyes but before Nimble Body. Then, buy lots and lots of blue potions and spam Lucky Seven. This will allow you to train on tougher monsters, although you probably won't be able to 1 hit green mushrooms efficiently at that level without good stars. I wouldn't suggest this unless you're rich enough to have good attack gloves, as well as kumbis/icicles.


 * In-the-middle alternative: Get Lucky Seven to around 10 before maxing Nimble Body, after Keen Eyes. You can 1HKO pigs and 2HKO ribbon pigs consistently with L7 at level 17, which isn't too hard on your money. Good if you want to level fast without spending a hell of a lot of mesos.

2nd Job

 * Mastery (5)
 * Booster (5)
 * Critical Throw (30) [MAX]
 * Haste (20) [MAX]
 * Mastery (15)
 * Endure (3)
 * Drain (30) [MAX]
 * Booster (10)
 * Endure/Booster (12)

OR


 * Mastery (3)
 * Critical Throw (10~15)
 * Haste (10)
 * Critical Throw (30) [MAX]
 * Booster (5)
 * Haste (20) [MAX]
 * Mastery (15)
 * Endure (3)
 * Drain (30) [MAX]
 * Booster (10)
 * Endure/Booster/Mastery (until you have no SP left)

The above build will give you lots of power, as well as a fast attacking speed, so your attacks will do more damage (and let you train fast). The build below it will give you a fast movement speed, so that you can move around (and train) more quickly.

Endure or Booster?
Now, most people will think Booster is better than Endure. But is it really so?

Mathematically, more Endure will save you more money on MP Pots, albeit on a pretty slight scale. First of all, let's remember that Booster's effectiveness is not affected by the skill level, which affects the HP/MP cost and duration only. HP cost is a non-issue with Drain, so let's focus on the MP Cost.


 * Level 3 Endure, Level 18 Booster: Booster's duration is 180 seconds, cost 12 MP, and in 180 seconds you will recover 108 MP. The amount of MP gain per 10 seconds is 5.1 MP/10 seconds.
 * Level 10 Endure, Level 11 Booster: Booster's duration is 110 seconds, cost 19 MP, and in 110 seconds you will recover 143 MP. The amount of MP gain per 10 seconds is 11.3 MP/10 seconds.
 * Level 15 Endure, Level 6 Booster: Booster's duration is 60 seconds, cost 24 MP, and in 60 seconds you will recover 108 MP. The amount of MP gain per 10 seconds is 14 MP/10 seconds.
 * Level 16 Endure, Level 5 Booster: Booster's duration is 50 seconds, cost 25 MP, and in 50 seconds you will recover 95 MP. The amount of MP gain per 10 seconds is 14 MP/10 seconds.

As you can see from above, with more points in Endure and less points in Booster, the amount of MP you gain per 10 seconds is mathematically superior (until you have less than 5 points in Booster). However, frequent stops to do "booster" makes people nervous and feels like a waste of 'time'. Since 5 points in Booster and 16 points in Endure really has the same effectiveness as 6 points in Booster and 15 points in Endure, it is prefered to do have a max of 15 Endure so that you can keep 6 Booster.

Regardless of your choice, keep in mind you need at least 3 points in Endure to unlock Drain.

Actually, the calculations neglect the benefits of booster, with booster, the thief can attack a LOT faster and earn more mesos in a shorter period of time. The mesos earned can easily be used to buy mana potions. Monsters that are level 35 and above are easily killed by level 40+ thief and even faster with booster. The mesos dropped by these monsters are normally 100 mesos and above. If the thief can kill the monster in 2 hits of lucky seven with booster, the amount of mesos earned is to mana used ratio is 48 : 100(not counting the mana booster used up as in 180 seconds, the thief with out endure can already heal 12 MP.) with every 200 mesos, the thief can buy 1 blue potion the heals 100 mana, so it is more worth adding booster.
 * The calculations do NOT neglect booster's effects, they merely show the MP gain over time with varying levels of Endure and Booster. Booster has the same speed bonus from level 1-20, so the calculations are valid. -EMP Demon

=Anti-Builds= These are a collection of builds that look great on paper but don't work in practice.

Low Dex Thief
If you have been playing for a while, know how to make mesos and find the best training spots for your character, then try to do this type of characters.

Thief with 25 dex and only add LUK


 * Been done, doesn't work. You'll be stuck stabbing pigs or something 'cause you can't hit stronger things. --82.203.155.143 18:50, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

No dex thief will never work as the accuracy is too low, however, low dex thief is workable if one has very nicely scrolled items. But at level 60 or 70, the thief must have minimum of 120 dex and 140 dex repectively, including the dex from the scrolled items. This is to enable the thief to use better weapons. 10% scroll for overall for LUK is better than DEX, although 60% scroll for DEX is better than LUK. This is so as the LUK also add some accuracy to thief and the high amount of LUK the 10% scroll gives is good enough. The items the thief can scroll with DEX are capes, overalls, shoes and gloves.
 * The LOW DEX VS NO DEX thieves might work. But, thieves need DEX.  The NO DEX is just a shot in the dark, but the LOW DEX might be a little worth trying.  For warriors, DEX must be kept low as possible and you just add to DEX if you want to hit harder monsters earlier.  ~Mandraken

(ya right, considering that the accuracy of warriors are one of the lowest, adding 2 dex per level is hardly enough for warrior, not just to fight the harder monsters.)


 * True, that build doesnt work, you want a equal, strong build that will give power to your chractors job and lets you equip the items for your levels. ETC ,If you have an equip item which requires 50 dex and 30 luck at level 25, and you are a dagger theif, it is most wisest to get up to those ability points and then add luck to increase avoidability and damage.I have a Throwing star theif, and i increase its ability using a speicial rule. ( starting from level 13)
 * STR and INT should be low as possible. ( 5 or lower) DEX should be two times your current level. EVERY OTHER ability point goes to your luck.This way you hav enough dex to wear Theif items at proper levels and also having enough accuracy, And you will have enough Luck to optimise avoidability, and Damage.You can always create your own speicial build, which makes your charactor unique. ~SwiftPanda from maplestory
 * Fine build shift panda, but I decided to do a hybrid thief which has lucky seven maxed and choose bandit as the 2nd job. The problem I have with my thief is I wanted it to be a str thief.  I am short 4 points at level 40 to use my str dagger.
 * lvl 40 str 29, dex 77, luk 110
 * I can move the numbers around and have enough dex at lvl 40, but that would mean my str would be 4 points less to 30. So, to make my job easier, I would need to wear gear that gives me those ability points at lvl 40 and hopefully I can catch up at level 41. ~Mandraken from maplestory
 * WOW, lol never thought of a hybrid theif, very strange..
 * so, u use daggers and claws? I would prefer a luck bandit my self, as luck, when you are a theif, greatly increases avoidability,and damage.
 * o.O never heard of banditsins? They're pretty hard to use and expensive, but yet pretty fun and versatile. Recommended stats are obviously DEX and LUK. -Ryuugaki
 * Acutally, I have seen a No Dex Hermit that was quite good. Being that Lucky 7 deals damage purely based on Luck, he was a lot stronger than one who puts points into Dex. Obviously this means he can't use any claw except the Garnier, but that is not true anymore. With the addition of the Maple Kandayo and some good scrolling, it can work out. Obviously you'd need the best attack gloves you can afford and hopefully all 7 60% scrolls work on the claw. Anyway, I have a Hermit of the normal build (44 attack claw, 6 attack gloves, 23 attack Tobi) and I was doing as well as 2400 damage to Red Drakes. I saw the No Dex Hermit I mentioned earlier there (he's the same level as me) and with his Ilbi, 4 attack gloves, and 34 attack Kandayo he was doing 3000 damage to Red Drakes. The build definately works, it's just an expensive one. ~KeikoTan from Windia
 * I too I'm planning to be a Hybrid sin or sindit. Personally I suggest max out Savage Blow before Dagger Mastery. Why would you master a skill that you don't even have(a waste of time and makes it harder to lv up.  I'm really 3 lvs behind because I started 7767 as my AP and I also have 25 str.  True that my attack maybe lowerer but it also randomly help me chose to be a str hybrid sin(wow long name).  I believe to play at your own desire and not always follow guides. What you want may not be the right one.  Max lucky 7 for hybrid sin so you have the power of bandit and sin.  DO NOT put any in double stab cause darksight will be alot of help when Wizet release 4th job advancement(that is if you can get that far lv 120).~nSakurace a soon to be hybrid str sin that reads too many guides of Bora

Thief Build (to be merged)
In becoming a bandit, you will get 61 skill points (1 at lvl 10, and 3 at each level up until level 30). To have a rich character, your skills are best distributed as follows:


 * LVL 10: 1 Nimble Body (1)
 * LVL 11: 3 Nimble Body (4)
 * LVL 12: 3 Nimble Body (7)
 * LVL 13: 3 Nimble Body (10)
 * LVL 14: 3 Nimble Body (13)
 * LVL 15: 3 Nimble Body (16)
 * LVL 16: 3 Nimble Body (19)
 * LVL 17: 1 Nimble Body (20, Maxed); 2 Double Stab (2)
 * LVL 18: 3 Double Stab (5)
 * LVL 19: 3 Double Stab (8)
 * LVL 20: 2 Double Stab (10);1 Saved SP (1)
 * LVL 21: 3 Saved SP (4)
 * LVL 22: 3 Saved SP (7)
 * LVL 23: 10 Double Stab (20, Maxed)
 * LVL 24: 3 Disorder (3)
 * LVL 25: 3 Dark Sight (3)
 * LVL 26: 3 Dark Sight (6)
 * LVL 27: 3 Dark Sight (9)
 * LVL 28: 3 Dark Sight (12)
 * LVL 29: 3 Dark Sight (15)
 * LVL 30: 3 Dark Sight (18)

The reason that this setup makes you rich is that Nimble Body increases your avoidability by 20 at only level 17. This means that slimes will do either 1 or 0 damage to you, eliminating the need for potions as you fight slimes. They drop a fair amount of money each, which builds up to a healthy amount of money resting in your inventory by the time Double Stab costs 14 Mana. Since Double Stab begins to cost 14 Mana instead of 7 Mana once it is level 11, it is best to save skill points until you can level Double Stab all the way to 20, rather than have the inefficient use of 80% damage per strike costing double the mana that 75% damage per strike costs. After maxing Double Stab, you can either get Disorder or Dark Sight. Since Double stab is used until the mid 30's of levels, where it is replaced by Savage Blow, Disorder is relatively useless except to deter monsters from attacking. The three levels required to gain levels in Dark Sight is sufficient to accomplish this task, so Dark Sight is the better choice to level to 18. After leveling to 30, you become a bandit and need the following skills:


 * LVL 30: 1 Dagger Mastery (1)
 * LVL 31: 3 Dagger Mastery (4)
 * LVL 32: 3 Dagger Mastery (7)
 * LVL 33: 3 Dagger Mastery (10)
 * LVL 34: 3 Dagger Mastery (13)
 * LVL 35: 3 Dagger Mastery (16)
 * LVL 36: 3 Dagger Mastery (19)
 * LVL 37: 3 Savage Blow (3)
 * LVL 38: 3 Savage Blow (6)
 * LVL 39: 3 Savage Blow (9)
 * LVL 40: 3 Savage Blow (12)
 * LVL 41: 3 Savage Blow (15)
 * LVL 42: 3 Savage Blow (18)
 * LVL 43: 3 Savage Blow (21)
 * LVL 44: 3 Savage Blow (24)
 * LVL 45: 3 Savage Blow (27)
 * LVL 46: 3 Savage Blow (30, Maxed)
 * LVL 47: 3 Dagger Booster (3)
 * LVL 48: 2 Dagger Booster (5); 1 Haste (1)
 * LVL 49: 3 Haste (4)
 * LVL 50: 3 Haste (7)
 * LVL 51: 3 Haste (10)
 * LVL 52: 3 Haste (13)
 * LVL 53: 3 Haste (16)
 * LVL 54: 3 Haste (19)
 * LVL 55: 1 Haste (20, Maxed); 1 Endure (1); 1 Dagger Booster (6)
 * LVL 56: 3 Dagger Booster (9)
 * LVL 57: 3 Dagger Booster (12)
 * LVL 58: 3 Dagger Booster (15)
 * LVL 59: 3 Dagger Booster (18)
 * LVL 60: 3 Dagger Booster (20, Maxed); 1 Endure (2)
 * LVL 61: 3 Endure (5)
 * LVL 62: 3 Endure (8)
 * LVL 63: 3 Endure (11)
 * LVL 64: 3 Endure (14)
 * LVL 65: 3 Endure (17)
 * LVL 66: 3 Endure (20, Maxed)
 * LVL 67: 1 Dagger Mastery (20, Maxed); 2 Dark Sight (20, Maxed)
 * LVL 68: 3 Disorder (6)
 * LVL 69: 3 Disorder (9)
 * LVL 70: 3 Disorder (12)


 * New Skill Build ** Added by PHILSON

Hey guys. After my experiments and research, I have managed to come up with a good skill build. I believe that it is faster and better than the one provided here.... Well, thats my opinion... You decide! Here goes:


 * LVL 30: 1 Dagger Mastery
 * LVL 31: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 32: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 33: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 34: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 35: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 36: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 37: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 38: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 39: 3 Savage Blow
 * LVL 40: 3 Savage Blow (Maxed)
 * LVL 41: 3 Dagger Mastery
 * LVL 42: 3 Dagger Mastery
 * LVL 43: 3 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 44: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 45: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 46: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 47: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 48: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 49: 2 Dagger Mastery ; 1 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 50: 1 Dagger Mastery (Maxed) ; 2 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 51: 3 Haste
 * LVL 52: 3 Haste
 * LVL 53: 3 Haste
 * LVL 54: 3 Haste
 * LVL 55: 3 Haste
 * LVL 56: 3 Haste
 * LVL 57: 2 Haste (Maxed); 1 Endure
 * LVL 58: 3 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 59: 3 Dagger Booster
 * LVL 60: 3 Dagger Booster (Maxed)
 * LVL 61 - 70: Ok, at this point you can choose to add the remaining points to either endure or steal... I've heard steal works on Zakum for items ^_^

Alright. I can imagine at this point, many of you would disapprove of my build. So, I'll give it a brief explaination. I chose to max Savage first because we all know that double stab is a sucky skill with low dmg... Therefore it is important to master an attacking skill 1st. Mastery & Booster together? Well, mastery is a good dmg increase, but we need booster for attack speed too, makes hunting mor efficient. And trust me, booster at low levels are pretty much useless.

What!? No Haste? Some might ask. Well, haste is nice to have. But it does not boost your attacks in any way, so i've put it behind... Oh yes, one more thing. I decided to max Savage 1st also because of the new ludi PQ. It will help u there....

Okay, thanks for reading... Hope this helps Happy Mapling^_^

-

Leveling abilities is simple for a thief until about level 50. When first rolling your character, you do not look for high numbers. Instead, you want 4 STR and 4 INT. If you are going to become a STR bandit, then you only need 4 INT and need not worry about any of the other statistics. However, since a luck bandit is more powerful, the statistics required for a STR bandit will not be detailed. Assuming you have 4 STR and 4 INT, at level 10 you should have exactly 25 DEX and 37 LUK. LUK plays a larger role in determining damage than DEX or STR, so it gains all the extra AP you gain after the minimum requirements to wear the thief equipment at each level. The requirements, until level 40, for DEX is to have it being twice your level. The levels 12, 17, 22,27, etc that have a LUK dagger for them also require a level up in DEX 5. In essence, after level 10, at every second and fifth level, you should raise DEX 5. Every other level, LUK should be raised by 5. Therefore, the stat increases should look as follows:


 * LVL 10: DEX 25, LUK 37
 * LVL 11: DEX 25, LUK 42
 * LVL 12: DEX 25, LUK 47
 * LVL 13: DEX 25, LUK 52
 * LVL 14: DEX 25, LUK 57
 * LVL 15: DEX 30, LUK 57
 * LVL 16: DEX 30, LUK 62
 * LVL 17: DEX 35, LUK 62
 * LVL 18: DEX 35, LUK 67

...etc.

By level 40, you should have 80 DEX and 132 LUK. At this point, you need only increase your DEX by five at every seventh and tenth level. Therefore, at level 47, 50, 57, 60, 67, and 70; your DEX should increase by 5. At every other level, LUK should be increased by 5. If this is followed through, at level 70 you should have 110 DEX and 247 LUK.

The reason that DEX is kept to the bare minimum is that it plays a much smaller role in determining damage than LUK for a thief. The formula to find maximum damage is

(LUK * 0.9 + (DEX + STR) * 0.25) / 25 * Weapon Atk.

Minimum damage is found using a slightly different formula that involves mastery.

(LUK * 3.24 * Mastery + DEX + STR) / 100 * Weapon Atk.

Assuming you are a Claw Rogue or LUK Dagger Rogue, STR is not needed for your equipment. It can be kept at 4 with INT, which plays no role whatsoever in determining damage. DEX does play a very small role in finding damage, and is needed for equipment, so is slightly useful. It is LUK that makes a thieves damage higher, however.