User talk:Prod

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MediaWiki talk:Common.js
I know that it's in wikipedia's js, but do we really need this? can already account for 99.99% of the use cases of that js bit, and if we un-restrict it (via $wgRestrictDisplayTitle = false), then it will account for 100% of the use cases, no js needed. -- 15:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure why they still have it. -- 22:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Fishing game
Is Fishing a real game, or could it be mixed up with the game Angler Dangler? The only reference to Fishing I can find is on GameFAQs, and it has the same release date (1982) and publisher (Data East) as Angler Dangler, for which I can find at least a few other references. Also, not that it's comprehensive, but WP's list of arcade games contains Angler Dangler but not Fishing. I was wondering if you have some source on Fishing the game so we can fill out its infobox or change it to Angler Dangler. Thanks - najzere T 17:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Rolled back. We've decided on having Fishing as a category redirect, and going with Angler Dangler as the game name. --DrBob (talk) 06:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Eternal Eyes/Crave
I was wondering if you even looked at the box art for the page you edited... File:Eternal Eyes NA Box Artwork.png. Most likely SunSoft was the native publisher for their game (in Japan), and released it to North America via Crave. -- 20:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Oracle of Seasons images
I see the images I've kept contributing are starting to add up. I'm trying to point out specific parts of the dungeons in this game, and they require an extra dose of images to create a decent walkthrough. Text by itself doesn't really cover a dungeon in Zelda games. It makes sense with the images in place. Some may not be neccessary, but I don't want to chop the images down to a few here and there. There won't be as many in the other parts of the guide; I'm just building up to a decent walkthrough.

--|Superpowered  Mario  19:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering you. Just had to revert something nonconstructive.(Noryb989 20:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC))

Skil Icons
I've noticed all the skill icons submitted were in dull color, mine was in iconMouseOver version, the original skill icon colors, yours were in the icon section. Would you want me to update every file you have uploaded so far?

Template request? :)
Hi Prod. After finishing the campaign guide for Star Wars: Battlefront II I'm about to tackle the multiplayer maps. I think these pages will require a template similar to the one used in the walkthrough pages, with a few changes. I've looked at the existing template and can kinda see how it works, but still not sure how to make one that I want. If you could either give me a few pointers on how to make the below work or create the template for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Here's what I'm thinking. The "World" and "Environment" sections would remain, but the "Difficulty" and "Objectives" sections would be gone. Each map has four playable factions, and each have unique vehicles and a hero. So there could be four smaller boxes (maybe in two rows and two columns, the width of the entire table might have to increase a bit to accommodate them) for each faction, with heroes and vehicles being listed off inside them. It'd also be nice if there were additional boxes that only appeared for maps that have indigenous factions, but these are pretty rare so it's not strictly necessary. I might have things to add, but at the moment these are all the ones I can think of.

If you have additional ideas or feel that some things are unnecessary, please let me know. Thanks a bunch! Bae jung92  (talk) 21:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Another thing that I'm planning to put in the pages is a picture of the minimap, for explaining specific locations and such. Although I don't think this needs to be part of a template... it'd probably expand the size too much and be harder to work with than regular thumbnails. Bae  jung92  (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! A thing though, I don't seem to be able to use asterisks for bullet points. They should work normally in a template right? Bae  jung92  (talk) 06:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

X-Men =/= Marvel ?!?
Why did you remove Category:Marvel from X-Men? The X-Men are a Marvel property, like Spider-Man, Iron Man, ect. Blue Phoenix 22:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Main page error
I just noticed that the link for genres (the "all" link after genres) goes to the general game list. I could've sworn it went to the genres category before. RobJ1981 00:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Majora's Mask.
You say its part of the template. Are you sure? Did you check the list of games in the N64 and the Wii VC section? I checked and it's not there. Well if you want to keep it that way, I guess the only way people trying to find this game is through the Gamecube list section "Collector's Edition" if they want some help. I'm sure this is your intention but really check and prove that it's a good idea that Majora's Mask doesn't exist. I know I sound like a jerk but this is how I feel when something does go wrong. Johnnyauau2000 03:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to say its still in the game list of both sections so I have to apologise for it. Speaking of which, can you do the same with the other Zelda games? I mean Majora's Mask is in the "T" section and the other Zelda games is in the "L" section and it will becoming confusing in the future so please? I don't want to end up getting mixed signals if this happens again. Thanks. Johnnyauau2000 04:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate it. Let me know when it all works out. Johnnyauau2000 07:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Ghost Squad article.
I don't want to interrupt but if you have the time, can you check on Ghost Squad I made on the Wii with some help. It's really now just proof reading and make it like an article that anyone understands. In short, I hope you can help clean up the article and the missions I manage to put in. The reason is when I write stuff, I could leave spelling errors, bad grammars and maybe even bad presentation so I hope there is someone who is able to bring it up to, I don't know, strategy wiki standard. Whatever. So when they read it, they'll understand immediately what to do. I would've turn to DrBob but I presume he's busy so I hope you're available. Thanks. Johnnyauau2000 16:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Import vs. edit history link
Hey, I did an export/import on Stormfront Studios from Wikipedia to here just to test it out. I was wondering if there is any benefit (besides easier access to the history) to using import over just linking to the WP page in an edit summary. As far as I know, the link is sufficient for attribution's sake, right? - najzere T 16:56, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Grand Chase Template
You said I should go to the chat to get help on the templates. I think you meant here...?

BSP Getting Started
If this page isn't necessary, should I delete this one too? If so, why hasn't anyone poked me about this beforehand? I was under the impression that you just kind of need one there. --Arrow Windwhistler (talk) 02:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no real content on it. But there probably could be. -- 06:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, what do you suggest I add then? --Arrow Windwhistler (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

MapleStory quest level divisions
Hi Prod, I'm glad you removed the symbols in this diff. I've been meaning to argue about whether or not they are important. I.e. the header should represent all of the content under the header (i.e. 20-30 or 20+), and not represent an implied range (i.e. 20 to represent 20+). Since none of those Nihal Desert quests require exactly level 20, don't you agree that the header is wrong? -- 08:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Simple Question
Hey Prod, I was just wondering, am I allowed to add links from my personal online maplestory guide to the strategywiki Maplestory guides? I mean is it ok for me to do that withour going over the copyright infringement and everything? Sorry if this sounds a bit confusing... --Jezza 11:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yea I'm making one huge map database on another wiki and since it's huge, I dont think it's a good idea to write everything here. At the moment, I'm linking some minor info to this site. --Jezza 23:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Bot authorization
I've created for use with AWB. You wouldn't happen to know of a sandbox wiki that I could get accustomed to AWB with, do you? -- 19:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you change the user rights for me? -- 21:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Header/Footer Nav inserts
Hey, Skizzerz said I should ask you about this. Is it worthwhile to change the in the nav inserts to 1 so that it gives the proper game name on any level of subpaging? Also, what's the status on MultipleUpload? — najzere T 22:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge page history glitch
I was using Special:MergeHistory earlier and found that when pressing the button, it generates a line of: "Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$rev_parent_id in /home/swiki/public_html/w/includes/Revision.php on line 312" One for every mergeable edit, each adding to the break in the page that appears in the upper area of the page. Is this an extension? -- 23:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's a core feature... open a bug on bugzilla if there isn't one already, including the exact error message and steps to reproduce. -- 01:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking it was a SW only error, because it is generated 100% of the time... just pick two pages randomly and you'll see. Like, Main Page and StrategyWiki:Guide/License. I'll make a report. -- 04:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

MS Data Files
Hey Prod, I think I've asked you this in the past, but with the update you've just made, does this mean that you're able to extract the data yourself? Are you able to access images? -- 21:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you share the program? -- 02:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Working edit counter
Hey Prod, do you know of a working online edit counter for SW, or do you use your own server with scripts? -- 17:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You should hook up the SW admins with access xD -- 19:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

About your "moderation"
That's wasn't needed. There is no rule saying every post must be completely friendly. If you want that to be the case: place notes all over the site saying no one can ever be negative or the comment gets removed. RobJ1981 03:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Total Annihilation - Prefixed names
Feel free to switch them around. I don't think I gave the issue much thought, I just ran into it while I was creating the pages and used the first solution that came to mind. -- 14:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

CIArchiveTOC rename
For the rename of this template, I made StrategyWiki SL archives, since the whole thing needed to be reworked to scale vertically instead of trying to go in the limited horizontal direction. If it looks all right, could you bot change all the instances to the new template? I'd do it myself, but NajBot doesn't have the necessary permissions to edit protected pages. If we switch to a separate template for staff lounge pages, we can take out the 2009 column on CIArchiveTOC and never have to touch it again. — najzere T 19:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Up Your Arsenal - The Suck Cannon
I made the Suck Cannon ammo 0-10 because it has a different ammo system from the other weapons. 0 was meant to be the "initial" or "default" capacity, and 10 would have been the maximum. Of course, those numbers are inaccurate as of V3, so I will go back and change them once I find the right numbers. Should I just change those numbers to be the maximum ammo capacities, like the other weapons, or should I put a note about the Suck Cannon's ammo system?--Poulin91 00:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:~
What's up with ~? ToCs are the only place it's even useful. — najzere T 07:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: searchresulttext
What was it showing up as before? -- Prod (Talk) 23:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Before it just liked to the Guide main page. --Garrett (talk) 23:21, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Warcraft III
Well, all the data under that section is pretty much already in the Human section, so really practically all of it can be deleted. --Arrow Windwhistler (talk) 14:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Category suppression templates
Okay, I think I came up with a simpler way to achieve category suppression: nocat. Using a separate template makes the original templates less complicated and gives us a framework if we need to add uncategorized versions of future templates. Due to the way release date templates are set up, it also avoids having to add category suppression directly into each and every template. What do you think? — najzere T 19:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just thought of a problem with putting them subpaged off the main templates: that means making dozens of these for all the release date templates. Seems like a lot of work for something that could be handled with one template. — najzere T 21:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Noticeboards
Hey, I was thinking about setting up a noticeboard somewhere in the SW namespace to dump notices for deletions (and maybe renames, subpages, merges, etc. if it's helpful). I go ahead and delete anything tagged for deletion after a week or so if there's no objection, but some things (like Template:Helpwanted) have multiple editors and/or are very old, so they're likely not watchlisted any more and it's hard to determine who to inform (as far as authors go) that the page is being deleted. A deletion noticeboard could be watchlisted by anyone interested, and then maybe we'd get some input on the more high-profile deletions. Sole authors of a page would obviously get a separate talk page message. Think this would benefit the wiki? I'm not talking about an AfD page where discussions take place, by the way – just a page where links can be thrown up that will hit people's watchlists. — najzere T 02:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Made some changes to the noticeboard transclusion on Community Portal/WIP. Basically just added a couple links and made the div scroll when it gets long. At the height I set I think it would show about eight or nine items. For the noticeboard itself, we could chop the bottom of the list monthly, at a certain length (25? 50?), whichever comes first, whenever we feel like it, I dunno. Let me know if there are any problems with the changes, or we can move them over to the live Comm. Portal page. Thanks, — najzere T 18:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Regarding series disambig fix
Just so you know, I have reverted your Infobox fix because it caused additional whitespace on guides that have a line break between the infobox end and the text start--which is most of them. This fix breaks more cases than it resolves so you will need to find another solution (perhaps adding the line break to the disambig rather than the other way around?) --Garrett (talk) 07:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit counter
Just a quick note to make you aware of the edit counter made by Najzere. - Trevman 21:25, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Rollback request
Hi, can you take care of Requests for permissions/Current requests when you get a chance? It's been up for over a week and I'm afraid no one's noticed it. You bureaucrats should probably watchlist that page. — najzere T 22:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Another request that has been up for over a week. Please put this page on your watchlist. — najzere T 22:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Quick Search
Just an idea but I think a "quick search" such as on http://www.eurogamer.net/, would be good. If you type in "resident" it will list all of the resident evil games that they have reviewed. The main http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page page also has this setup. - Trevman 08:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thats a very cool little search feature, it makes it easy to find out what guides are available for which games :D, though I don't know if being able to search subpages is of much benefit and may be better to just search based on the main page (if it's possible). Otherwise I'd still rather see this than nothing :) - Trevman 06:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

No the search bit I'm referring to is the bit you activated http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8530/47083975.jpg where it shows the main and subpages, would it not be better to just show the main? - Trevman 07:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Ads redirecting
I've noticed over the past 2 or 3 days when viewing pages on SW I have once or twice had the page refresh to show me http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-gb/cdn/2010/affiliate/extreme.htm?source=affiliate&medium=zanox&content=zaxs&cid=W200038&zanpid=1342977507556895744 as if an ad was redirecting me. I'll keep an eye out too see if I can work out what is causing it. I think it is site specific as it doesn't happen else where but we'll see. Just thought I would bring it to your attention. - Trevman 22:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

No TOC
Is it possible to find out which pages do not have a TOC? They make for quick tidying up :) - Trevman 16:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Starting at around the 20,000th link on Special:WantedPages you can find some by searching for "/Table of Contents". Around 20,000 are redlinks with two pages linking to them, but there are even more missing ToC links up at around the 25,000 mark, where only one page links to it. — najzere T 17:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Images Project.
It's come to my attention that a lot of guides could use more images. I could give you some more explanation to that, but I think you get the point. Jepjr T

rsvg
I tested my SVG on, where it renders nicely enough, and validated it at w3.org. Considering this, I think the problem may be in our rsvg implementation. — najzere T 19:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The version we are running is what is the latest on the linux version we have. I'll see if I can find out when the next release is expected to come out.  Our alternative is to leave the stable releases and compile the sources ourselves, but that makes maintenance slightly more complex. I'll see what I can find out about versions and time-lines though. -- Prod (Talk) 20:17, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Also, can we directly use images from Commons like Wikimedia sites do? Do you know if only Wikimedia sites do that? Edit: Ah, here it is: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos — najzere T 20:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not. -- Prod (Talk) 20:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

"dbType, dbServer, dbUser, dbPassword, dbName, dbFlags:   equivalent to the corresponding member of $wgDBservers" .
 * That's for the ForeignDBRepo method. The ForeignAPIRepo method is much simpler and doesn't require any permissions or passwords (their API is open like ours). — najzere T 21:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Maple skills
Didn't you say you wanted to change all Maple skill pages into table format? -- Imjon 07:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on my todo list...which I'm not able to get to for a while... -- Prod (Talk) 04:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was asking because I might start working on it. -- Imjon 04:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: ToC standardization
I noticed this diff. I think we shouldn't try to limit ToC's with too stringent a format. A bit of deviance isn't really a big problem, as long as it looks ok. -- Prod (Talk) 07:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I was planning to add Cheats and Passwords links later, but now I think about it the first Castlevania didn't have the password system. :/ But yes, it's generally fine like this. --Garrett (talk) 07:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

one more question...
hey, prod, suppose i want to make a list into a collapsible one. how would I go along doing that. my page of interest is Mega Man Battle Network 5/Chip Library, where i want to make the relative chip classes collapsible, considering the volume of info.

Peace out, God Bless. Halosonic 22:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Broken link in Help page
In Guide/Navigation there is a broken link to a Multiple Upload special page. Does that page actually exist, or should the link be removed? Moy dow  (ta lk) 03:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

wip Template
Hey, thanks for the update on this. I was probably planning on quickly finishing something on those and then got distracted. I'll take a look through that list and see if any of them need anything specific.

Also my apologies for not being around very much lately. --Zaiqukaj 14:53, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: BS Zelda
Does ZW:BS The Legend of Zelda: Triforce of the Gods need a guide here? -- Prod (Talk) 05:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's just a broadcast version of the original game. It is otherwise identical. --Garrett (talk) 07:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Is that the proper name? Does it need a categorized redirect? -- Prod (Talk) 17:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a translation of the Japanese name for A Link to the Past. Since the only difference from the original game's Japanese name is the "BS" prefix--which all Satellaview games have anyway--I don't think a special redirect is necessary. --Garrett (talk) 20:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

MS: frequented pages
This is kinda out there, but is there any way you can check the "most wanted" MapleStory pages? Or maybe just the most frequently visited pages within the last month or something? :O -- Imjon 05:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, cool. Thanks. I don't mean to bug you, but I also have another request: are there any redlink'd MS pages that get a lot of traffic? -- Imjon 22:56, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright. Thanks again. :D -- Imjon 03:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Skins in preferences
Is there a way to change the links next to the skin options in preferences to make the links to "BlueCloud" JS and CSS pages rather than "bluecloud"? — najzere T 18:51, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Controls table formatting
I think an easier implementation of the CSS you're looking for would be to use a template like Achievements Header that would just accept a multitude of unnamed parameters as column header names, then keep the rest of the table exactly the same as we've been doing it. This would allow us to put the "controltable" class on the table, make the header row look how we want and give us a hook to apply CSS to header cells (i.e. "table.controltable th"). This way we would only have to change out the tops of existing control tables and we could use the simpler "!" and "|" table markup. Also, is this addition to the stylesheets a test? I didn't see anything regarding a consensus on making this change. — najzere T 18:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's necessary to hide that much behind a template. Control tables are too inconsistent that it just makes another template someone has to look up.  The class is already ready if we want to add header specific css, nothing else is required (just need to define any necessary rules in the stylesheets).  This is an example around which to build consensus at the the next meeting and in the relevant thread.  Since it's a new class, adding it to the common sheet would be easy to take out, wouldn't affect anything else, and if we do go with it peoples cache should have a chance to clear. -- Prod (Talk) 19:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I find the consistency from limitations imposed on column headers by a template to be a benefit, as it would eliminate the colspans, rowspans and other detritus we often have to remove. Using just the class through the prettytable template wouldn't allow us to differentiate between the column headers (dark background, bolded) and the control headers (plain background, unbolded) without resorting to adding another class or template for the column header row (unless we can use the first-child pseudo class). The main problem with this new style idea is the increased complexity of producing a controls table, so we should attempt to make it as easy for editors as possible, provided anyone really wants to go through with this massive change. —  najzere T 19:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The rows won't be headers, they will be standard cells. That is actually the whole reason wanderer is pushing for this.  Having another template to learn when standard markup is straightforward enough and more flexible is unnecessary.  What I changed on that page is the extent of the changes that would be required. -- Prod (Talk) 02:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

MapleStory Malaysia quests
Is there a reason that a link exists on the MapleStory ToC and in MapleStory/TOC/Quests to Quests/Malaysia? Malaysia quests are already listed under MapleStory/Quests/World Tour. -- 03:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * If they're separated in the game listing, they should be separated here. Apart from that, any changes I made were simply for consistency. -- Prod (Talk) 18:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was unaware of the distinction. Do you have a screenshot/have you seen the separation yourself? -- 18:55, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * See [[File:MapleStory_Malaysia_Quests.png]]. -- Prod (Talk) 20:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)