StrategyWiki:Staff lounge/2007/September

Table of Contents
I want to know how to change the table of contents for the Sims 2 page but I'm not sure how. Clicking on edit doesn't do anything, I don't know how to add new pages to it and I'm scared I might accidently delete pages that I've already completed. Can someone help me?--Sims2Guy 00:09, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
 * You need to edit The Sims 2/Table of Contents directly. -- Prod (Talk) 00:18, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Oh never mind. Worked out how--Sims2Guy 00:26, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

Tables and Graphs
I know your not allowed to copy information directly from copyrighted sources but are you allowed to copy raw data, (that is, tables of information and graphs) from those sources if they're relavent to the page being created or edited.--Sims2Guy 00:31, 1 September 2007 (CDT)
 * You can copy the data, as long as you completely redo the layout and presentation. -- Prod (Talk) 00:34, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

missing games question
Work has been keeping me too busy to play through games lately but I still want to help out since this site is a wonderfully helpful idea. Right now I have access to a lot of box art that we are missing. The games also have their manuals so I can at least do the research for the first page and add any information like play instructions from the manuals. I was wondering if it was considered rude or undesirable to create stubs for games that have yet to have anything added on them? The most I would be adding would be info for the front page and instructions on how to play. --Zaiqukaj 21:29, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
 * No, it's not rude at all. We weigh the pros and cons of doing this.  On the one hand, it adds work that someone can eventually expand upon.  On the other hand, the presence of the stub itself may deter less investigative members from working on a guide because they assume is already present (even though it's just a stub.)  But I think the pro outweighs the con in this case.  And in my opinion, a "fleshed-out" stub is much better than a page-creation stub.  So feel free to go for it.  Procyon (Talk) 21:37, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
 * The more information you add, the better. Some people focus on the main pages, some people focus on the guides. Really the best thing you could do to start off a guide (even if you don't plan on writing the actual guide) is to fill in a few key pieces of information:


 * Make sure the game name is right (verify based on the wikipedia page, name on the box, additionally the company site should give you the exact 'trademarked' name).
 * Fill in the infobox (wikipedia is a great help)
 * Add some quick info about the game (a few sentences)
 * Create the table of contents (using the preload button) and then add some extra links (level names, or just something specific for the game)
 * A good example of this is Ghost Master. You don't need to fill everything in, but the more the merrier :). -- Prod (Talk) 11:42, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Thank you for answering. I will keep this information in mind when making a new page. --Zaiqukaj 08:46, 6 September 2007 (CDT)

Naming Pages
I have basically finished the walkthroughs, renamed the missions and am getting ready to do cleanup from when I first started, as I feel I have a bit more of a basic 'format' feel of things now.

I have one idea about naming the missions, and wanted your opinion. When I am working on things, I see the mission titles like "Blue Angel" and I have to make extra efforts to remind myself what mission it is, China, USA, GLA -- and then what number the mission is. I know I can default to the Table of Contents, but just looking at the page I feel lost.

What do you think of this page-naming concept...do you think it is too much information???

CHI-1 The Dragon Reborn  or China 1. The Dragon Reborn USA-1 Blue Angel GLA-3 Flood of Chaos or at least: 1. The Dragon Reborn 2. Chaos Factor

thanks...Karlcsr 18:30, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Uh, try to be as descriptive and concise as possible. Other than that, no idea. -- 20:11, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, you could take a look at how I named the missions for StarCraft. Since yours are way shorter than my examples, I'd say any of them are okay. Baejung92 20:20, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I replied to this on his talk page. In short, I don't think it's necessary (even the StarCraft guide doesn't really need them). -- Prod (Talk) 20:44, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Please ban XLordKishuX to edit maple story category..
He is edit maple story category and destroy it or put wrong staff there....i did undo his changes 5 times and said to him to stop this but he is not listening to me...--Ofir38 03:35, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Done. Sorry for not doing it sooner, i have also reverted all of his edits.--Rocky Rally-X Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 05:36, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Where did you tell him to stop??--Rocky Rally-X Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 05:39, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

in my MS forum...i know him there and in that forum i speak hebrew and he speak hebrew 2 so i told him there in pm to stop edit the MS category and he didnt listening to me...--Ofir38 07:29, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah. Anyway, we can't just block someone for editing one specific thing. They can either edit everything (aka, not blocked), or edit absolutely nothing (aka, banned). Quite obviously, vandals fall into the second category, but please keep in mind that when blocking users, it is impossible to "pick a category". Just to let you know, Ofir. -- 09:52, 16 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Page Protection would kinda, but that's not really an option.--Rocky Rally-X Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 09:58, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

YouTube video guidelines?
Are there any specific guidelines to adding Youtube videos to a strategy section?

For instance, I have recently been uploading video walkthroughs of The Simpsons Hit & Run to my YouTube account and was wondering if I would be able to use them here. Would videos like these be okay, or should I get rid of all the extra stuff (site logo, zomg glitch alert, watermark, etc) and just upload plain videos? Kamek 22:12, 21 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Don't worry about it, just use the YouTube template (you can see pages that have been using it by going to YouTube and then "What Links Here" in the toolbox, then check the list for examples. Btw, thanks for the contributions - vids are greatly appreciated.  -- 23:38, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

Outside link
Is Audition/Songs an acceptable page? All it contains is a link to an outside source that has all the songs listed in it. Baejung92 23:09, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Never mind, I see it just got rewritten. Baejung92 23:15, 28 September 2007 (CDT)