StrategyWiki:Staff lounge/2014/June

Harvest Moon series
I have a question about the Harvest Moon series, should the proceed/followed be the order the game released or by handheld systems go without the console systems and console systems go without the handheld systems, because a bunch have the series in order by date such as The Legend of Zelda series and Mario Party series aren't like that just wanted to see if I'm the only one who thinks that or not. - RodKimble (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2014 (UTC0)
 * I don't know enough about the Harvest Moon series specifically to comment on this, but it really depends on the series. In some cases (like the Zelda) series, the game's continuity isn't really clear, and the order of games is by release date.  In other cases, the games are meant to be split by system because the handheld versions are typically "side stories" or a gaiden (外伝), where the progress of the story doesn't flow directly from one system to the another.  I think in this case, NMH's argument is that if the games within the series are split by some header level in the series template, the followed by/preceded by order should follow what the template says.  That being said, there probably is some room for flexibility (as in allowed an in-universe followed by, as well as a chronological followed by).   Pro  cyon  03:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * We always create/lay out our series sequences in chronological order, by release date. However, in this case, it is not clear if the handheld games should be a sub-series (which would clearly keep them separate), or if we should revise the series template and put them all in one long order, like Mario. My initial assumption was that the handheld games were different, however, I have played the 64 game and I would assume that little to no continuity exists between any of the games. Harvest Moon. The handheld series does not need to remain. I see no evidence of a long chain of games. I do, however, see small series. E.g. The GB series (GB, 2 GBC, and 3 GBC), Wonderful Life pair, Friends of Mineral Town pair, DS/Cute, Islands pair. We could switch to chronological order, and the series template could be separated into groups like ungrouped or a series. It looks like I initially created the series template by copying Wikipedia's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Harvest_Moon . I am not sure we should change anything. -- 16:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, all Harvest Moon games seem to be different besides the few sequels, so it looks like chronological might be the way to go, though I've never played a console Harvest Moon so I wouldn't know about any major differences. By this point I would assume there aren't any. -- Wario Talk 23:25, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * To be honest, it would be nice if the Category:Harvest Moon page could explain the relationship (if any) between all of the titles. Then it would be easier to determine the correct course of action.  RodKimble, is that something that you think you could work on for us?   Pro  cyon  00:20, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, I am fine with re-sorting the whole thing and getting rid of console delegation. At least we can decide on that and get working on it and see how it goes. Let's go chronologically unless someone comes up with a story. It will look weird because some of the pairs will have their titles separated. -- 00:47, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I can try my best I just have the console versions of Harvest Moon series I've only played some of the handheld versions Procyon. - RodKimble (talk) 01:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, you don't have to play every game to work on the page. We all do research, whether it's on Wikipedia or somewhere else, before we type up descriptions for games and series.   Pro  cyon  02:20, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I have one more question on a Harvest Moon game, it says that Harvest Moon Online japan only game was closed on October 1st 2012 what does that mean. And is the only game that is on Windows, if that means that you can't play that game anymore should it be taken off.


 * No. Provide as much information as you possibly can about it, and tag the article with the Unplayable tag. We still want to capture as much information as possible for historical purposes, and so that people can see how this particular title fit in to the rest of the series.   Pro  cyon  04:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright that's all I really know about Harvest Moon Online, because I really don't know that much about japan games but that's all I found about the game. And whoever did the Category:Harvest Moon great job I like it like that seems really organized to me at least.


 * Rod, I revised Harvest Moon to be by year. You can see some minor issues at the end of the 2000s that could use some cleanup (like the trailing dot). It was an incomplete revision. Also, Category:Harvest Moon hasn't had anything done to it since 2009 and is really lacking (it doesn't even have a series template on it). The list at the very bottom is the automatically alphabetized list that results from putting the category on each main page. -- 06:31, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I moved Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming to the 2000s, because everyone is saying it's a sequel to Harvest Moon: Island of Happiness. Also added Rune Factory 4 to the Spin-offs as well. - RodKimble (talk) 08:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I moved the Rune Factory games to their own series; but they are a sub-series of Harvest Moon so you will see that in the Harvest Moon series template. -- 16:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh yes definitely agree with that one there, saw it in harvest moon category it is looking good - RodKimble (talk) 06:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)