User talk:Shido

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SMI Image
Image:Super Monkey Island Crack.png would be my initial suggestion. My concern is that short acronyms like SMI (and words like crack) could easily apply to multiple games. The name technically follows policy, so you can just remove the rename template if you don't feel it's necessary. -- Prod (Talk) 01:24, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Btw, the policies aren't really set in stone yet. But as you're dealing with the topic, I hope you'll voice your opinion at some point on certain revisions that are necessary (such as the acronym thing).  I always like to name my images as "Full Game Name, 1-2 Word Descriptor, # if in a series,.extension."  However for the full game name, I'd leave out the prefix "the" like for SMI.  Also "crack" doesn't seem like a descriptor.  Isn't that picture of like, what to click on to get down the cliff?  So "Super Monkey Island Cliff Climb.png" would be the way I'd personally go.  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 04:27, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * For full game names, I would include “The” if it is part of the formal title, and in this case it is. The game’s article (The Secret of Monkey Island) includes it anyway, so I would stick it into the image titles for consistency. “Crack” is actually the name of the location in which the screenshot is taken, and it’s not called a “cliff” in the game.  Initially I named it “crack” because the screenshot shows where you're supposed to attach the rope in the so-called crack.  Since the screenshot also shows how to reach the oars, perhaps I could name it Image:Secret of Monkey Island oars?  Or will that conflict with the naming of the image sprites of the inventory? —Shido 04:41, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * First of all, naming consistency is most important; you should use what's already been used unless the existing names are poor quality. So, whatever you choose, make it stick.  Second, I would probably do Image:Secret of Monkey Island Ladder Placement since the picture is meant to show you the locations, not show that specific area.  It shouldn't be crack because the image isn't used to show you the area called crack, but to do something else.  See what I'm saying?  Actually... on second thought check this out: how about a third "parameter" so that the file name is Image:Game Name Location Purpose so that you could have multiple images from crack, but outlining something different.  This might not apply to SMI, but in games that require duplicate areas, or larger areas (multi-screen under the same name) this would probably be a better way to go.  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 17:58, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks for your input. You're right, although any other screenshot of the crack would be redundant in my opinion.  I'm now thinking of naming it Image:The Secret of Monkey Island crack rope usage (“The” is part of the formal title), with “crack” as the location and “rope usage” as the purpose.  Now, what naming convention would you suggest for item icons in the inventory?  They obviously don’t have a location, so I’m thinking of something similar to Image:The Secret of Monkey Island rope icon, Image:The Secret of Monkey Island banana icon, etc.  (I looked at the item pages of a few games, and they don’t help me to identify a standard.) —Shido 18:20, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 * As long as the game it belongs to is clear, and the rest of the info tells something about what it's for, the rest is up to you. -- Prod (Talk) 00:29, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Shido, I recommend using a Game Name, Category, Specific type of naming series for "list" type entries (items, enemies, etc.). For instance, Image:Super Metroid Items Morph Ball.png. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 02:25, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * What do you want it renamed as, I'll do for you this time :).--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 14:12, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * (Notmyhandle) The problem with a title such as Image:The Secret of Monkey Island Items Banana.png is that in SMI, each item’s appearance in the inventory is different from its appearance in the “environment/world.” I guess “icon” would be a bad name to describe the inventory, because there is a possibility that somebody will take the world items as “icons.” Perhaps I’ll name the items like Image:The Secret of Monkey Island Items Banana inv .png just to distinguish what belongs to the inventory. —Shido 15:15, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Hey Rocky, it’d be nice to have Image:SMI crack.png renamed to Image:The Secret of Monkey Island crack rope usage.png. I think that satisfies the full game name, location, and purpose parameters.  Thanks in advance. :) —Shido 15:15, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah sure, I'll do it now, thanks for the help (I would have guessed and got it completely wrong :P).--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 16:26, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Shido you could just do Banana1.png and Banana2.png and then eventually make categories Category:SMI World Items and Category:SMI Inventory Items. Ya know?  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:55, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Haha, looks like you’re not all that picky about image titles. I’ll do that. —Shido 20:25, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * (Rocky) Thanks for the rename. :) —Shido 20:25, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Well I'm really stumped when it comes to file name length. I can't decide whether they should be allowed to be huge or we should advocate for shortened ones.  However, I feel that the game name should never be abbreviated, while descriptors are ok for me.  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 21:32, 5 May 2007 (CDT)
 * I think Abbreviations are OK as long as it's famous (e.g FF for final fantasy, PKMN for pokemon, LoZ for legend of zelda etc.), you probably will get away with your abbreviation because how many games will be abbreviated to TSOMI?--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 01:58, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Wow I googled TSOMI and like every single reference is to the game. Well I dunno now.  I guess it really doesn't matter.  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 04:21, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

(Undent) Per Rocky’s opinion, my personal preference and Notmyhandle’s neutrality, maybe we should rename Image:The Secret of Monkey Island crack rope usage.png to Image:TSoMI rope usage.png in order to throw away the excessively long image title? I think the lowercase o would help in reducing the chance of a future game taking this exact acronym. —Shido 07:03, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Done :),P.S I edited your comment cuz the link wasn't showing at all, hope it's what you want. --Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 07:48, 6 May 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks again for the image rename. I’ll be starting to uploading several images of inventory items in a few days if nobody objects to using “TSoMI”. —Shido 16:35, 6 May 2007 (CDT) P.S. That external link was actually meant to be subtle. :P