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Bottom of the Well Guide?
There isn't a specific guide that goes on past the Lens of Truth in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Notmyhandle has done some work, but I'm wondering if someone else is planning on working on it. --|Superpowered  Mario  22:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'll get there in time. -- 06:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I would if I could, but I've only been doing makeshift edits, plus the fact that I never have decided to (and probably never will) venture the well that much.--|Superpowered  Mario  20:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, the area is fairly easy anyways so I think anyone who has gotten this far already won't need much help (but we'll cover it anyways). -- 21:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Wii and Guitar Button Template Touches.
I've been also thinking about finishing updating images to complete it. Ever since the Wii Wheel, Wii Zapper and Wii Fits accessories (don't know that name), I expect someone to at least match up the images to it. Not much really but just need to match up the B button on Wii Wheel and Wii Zapper and having simple signs on the Wii Fit game. The Guitar Template on the other hand is empty. It's impossible to think that all the buttons on are there when it's not. Well if anyone's up besides me with no experience on images can do this part then I will be grateful. I presume they're not going to do it but it won't hurt to give it a try. Lastly I believe it will take a month to make those images but that's my best estimate. Johnnyauau2000 13:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

New Template
I've created a new template (The Sims 2 object) for objects in The Sims 2 and I need someone to go over and check that I've done everything right. I'd like to start adding this template to the obejct pages that exist but there might be some problems with the template so if someone could first go over it and then get back to me so that I can start adding the template or if someone else can help adding it then that would be much appreciated.Sims2Guy 07:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks OK to me. :-) --DrBob (talk) 11:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, I've started to add the template for pages that have object profiles and it would be a great help if some people started to add it as well. This is a list of all pages that need the template added.

Pages that have been done have a strike through them. If some people start to help, that will be much appreciated.Sims2Guy 00:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Comfort/Dining Chairs
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Comfort/Living Chairs
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Comfort/Recliners
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Comfort/Sofas and Loveseats
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Comfort/Beds
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Decorative/Sculptures
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Decorative/Wall Hangings
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Decorative/Miscellaneous
 * The Sims 2/Buy Mode/Hobbies/Creativity
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Comfort
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Surfaces
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Decorative
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Plumbing
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Electronics
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Lighting
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Hobbies
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Miscellaneous
 * The Sims 2: Nightlife/Other
 * The Sims 2: Open for Business/Decoration
 * The Sims 2: Open for Business/Hobbies
 * The Sims 2: Open for Business/Other
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Comfort
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Surfaces
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Decorative
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Appliances
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Electronics
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Lighting
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Hobbies
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Miscellaneous
 * The Sims 2: FreeTime/Other
 * Updated. - naj zere 22:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Newbi make booboo
I made a Template:NGP while I didn't know what I was doing, and I'm hoping someone will take a look at it. Plus I didn't categorize the following images and don't know how to fix that. (they should be categorized as Fighter Portraits). --Blue Phoenix 16:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Haohmaru.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Iori.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Kyo.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Leona.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Mai.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Nakoruru.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Ryo.png‎
 * Image:Portrait SVCMM Terry.png‎


 * As long as it works, what's the problem? Have you tested it? I added the switch statement to help. Also take a look at the changes I've made to your post to make it more compact and display correctly.-- 00:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note, the categorization requested here has been completed. -- 08:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The Godfather content.
I hate to say this but I have no experience adding extra pages to this game. What I want to do is really two things ... if any of you own a Wii, you know what I expect. I'm sure you know already about the corrupt cop hit that is an addition to this game. Maybe you can improvise on that. Also this game can't do without some sort of strategy for going into all four compounds. The simple deal is how about setting up the pages and I'll do the rest since my strength sometimes work there. If you have spare time, I hope you can reshape all the control areas and also add the PC version if you have the chance. I just wish I know how to do that but that's just me. Help me as soon as you can. Johnnyauau2000 08:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * By "adding extra pages to this game", do you really mean "adding pages to the table of contents"? To "add" a page to a game, all you do is create it (i.e. either type the page name in the address bar of your browser, OR make a red link, like New page, and then click on the red link and create the new page). To add a page to the table of contents, all you do is add a link to the page on the table of contents page (you can access this page from the link in the header nav of every page, or again, just append "/Table of Contents" to the end of your URL when viewing the main page of a guide). What do you mean "reshape all the control areas"; change the controls page? -- 08:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The truth is it's getting much harder to understand such simple tasks like shooting a gun and doing hand to hand combat. That's how I see the page today. As for adding pages to the table of contents, I could get totally lost doing this. What I mean is if I did a new page but I keep forgetting what the pages are for than I'm lost. If you understand what I mean than I hope my point is clear. Johnnyauau2000 09:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's how you see what page? So if you're confused or whatever, why not just tell me what page to make for you? Plus, if you're just being forgetful, the titles of the pages describe their content. I understand what you say, but it seems more like a personal problem than something that I can help you with. -- 18:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

True that it's a personal problem but I have no-one else to turn to so this is my only choice. Let's go step by step. If I want to go into the compound, what title should work for it once I put into the table of contents? I still don't have any thoughts at the time so help me out on this. Johnnyauau2000 04:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC) By the way, the page I was talking about is about using the controller in different consoles. Only Xbox360 and the Wii is there and could've been redone in a way that would save a lot of effort. Johnnyauau2000 06:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have never played The Godfather game, but you could make a page called "Compound" or a section called Compound and then a page under it called "Entry." If the game has a name or chapter for it or something, that would be better. For controls, see Control selector. -- 06:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm slowly getting the idea. It's actually right in front of me because I was wondering if there was a link to the "Table of Contents". Anyway, don't worry about the hitman, the corrupt police officer that's been added to the Wii. It will take too long to add them in if I have to search through my memory. Instead, I'll leave it as a small reference on the main page of the article. Johnnyauau2000 07:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

need for speed most wanted for psp
i have a ps and have just got the game need for speed most wanted for it. i would like to kno if there is any way u could let me know how to put the bounse parts on my car in the game? i just started playing the psp so im very new at this if u mite not be able to help can u seggest some one that can? i called the game stop and they dont know how to niether.

thank you for your time. chris whore_man420@yahoo.com


 * I don't think any of the admins have this game. It looks like there are no real active authors for that game, so I'm guessing that no one can help you at this time. Also, if you want a response, come back here; there's no need to email you. Did you mean bonus parts of your car? Or bounce parts? bounse isn't a word... -- 06:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Toolbox
How can I edit the Toolbox on my user page? I'm trying to add a "Najzere's Pages" section. Thanks, - naj zere 13:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how NMH or Skizzerz does it, but you can check out my page for how to hardcode it.-- Duke Ruckley Talk 16:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I copied Ryan's templates; I think he made them so that the code on his actual user page would be minimized. Plus, it looks kinda cool as an extension of the Toolbox. -- 17:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For mine, use and  to build each of the respective items. Check the docs on each page for syntax, etc. if you want to use that. For an example, see User:Ryan Schmidt/UserNav (that's the one that I use and transclude onto each of my user pages). -- 21:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks all! - naj zere 06:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, need some more help. I used the two templates in my UserNav page, now I just need to know what transcluding is and how it's done. Thanks, - naj zere 06:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Transclusion is the process of showing or using the content of one page on another page, without having the data saved to the page itself. It's how templates work; except transclusion can be used on any page (templates just have a special namespace for organization). You would thus put the following on the pages that you want your custom nav to appear: -- 08:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, - naj zere 16:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

--how to get army base to grow in sim city 2000-
question ... how do i get army base to grow in simcity 2000 ? user name borntobroil reply at borntobroil@hotmail.com 10/10/08
 * You'd be better off asking on our forums. --DrBob (talk) 23:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Verbose SNK names
I think the folder names for many SNK fighters are too exact. Instead of Fatal Fury: King of Fighters, it should be moved to Fatal Fury or Fatal Fury 1 and only have the subtitles in the pages themselves. Other examples include: Blue Phoenix 23:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For what benefit? Our policy is to go by the official names of the games, and redirect the alternative names and misspellings to the proper page. -- Prod (Talk) 00:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Prod. This policy is in place to ensure the accuracy of information.  The last two games in your list of examples speaks directly to that point.  I personally know why you chose the fighting game to be called SNK vs. Capcom and the card game to be called something else, but someone else may disagree with you.  With such a policy, there can be no argument what the guide should be called.  At the same time, Blue Phoenix, I highly encourage you to create as many appropriate redirects as you feel necessary.  Fatal Fury should redirect to Category:Fatal Fury (which I just fixed), but Fatal Fury 3 should (and better) redirect to Fatal Fury 3: Road to the Final Victory, likewise with Art of Fighting 3 and Art of Fighting 3: The Path of the Warrior.  Your concern speaks to the accessibility of the guides, and the redirects serve that purpose, while allowing the policy of appropriate guide names to remain in tact. Procyon (Talk) 03:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If that is the case then shouldn't the Capcom pages be named similarly.


 * Street Fighter II ||Street Fighter II: The World Warrior
 * Street Fighter II Champion Edition ||Street Fighter II' Champion Edition
 * Street Fighter II Turbo ||Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting
 * Super Street Fighter II ||Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
 * Street Fighter Alpha ||Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
 * Street Fighter III ||Street Fighter III: New Generation
 * Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact ||Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact: Giant Attack
 * Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike ||Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future
 * }
 * and that just the Street Fighter Games--Blue Phoenix 13:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ouch... I feel like I just got punched in the nuts... OK, we need to review this matter more closely. Good call BP.  Procyon (Talk) 17:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact ||Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact: Giant Attack
 * Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike ||Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike: Fight for the Future
 * }
 * and that just the Street Fighter Games--Blue Phoenix 13:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ouch... I feel like I just got punched in the nuts... OK, we need to review this matter more closely. Good call BP.  Procyon (Talk) 17:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * and that just the Street Fighter Games--Blue Phoenix 13:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ouch... I feel like I just got punched in the nuts... OK, we need to review this matter more closely. Good call BP.  Procyon (Talk) 17:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just redirect the unspecific titles to the category page or an alternate disambiguation page (I think the category is sufficient). -- 19:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I aggree with Prod that we should allways stay with th correct title of the game (and that all the incorrect titles should be simple redirects) but I strongly suggest that we keep the character pages where they are at [Series Name/characters/character name] and do not move them to [first game in the series name/characters/character name]. The reason for that is simply that it is very confusing for the user if he/she is at [Super Street Fighter II Turbo], clicks at a link labeled Ryu and is suddenly at [Street fighter II: The World Warriors/Character/Ryu] with no obvious way to return to the game where he/she came from. --Bmuig 20:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC) (talk)

Song lyrics in various articles
I recall asking about this a while ago, and I'm still wondering: why are they still in articles such as Donkey Kong? It became a featured guide: but the lyrics are still there. They don't serve much purpose, and it doesn't help in understanding how to play or beat the game. Perhaps all the lyrics should just be moved to a subpage? This might be a minor thing, but I don't see why the Wiki should be a lyrics database for some games. RobJ1981 00:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It's a bizarre experiment that you need to know the lyrics in order to sing a song. I even doubt theirs a musical wiki version where you get to edit music but that's just me. All I'm wondering is how many wiki's like this is out there. There's Wikipedia and Strategy Wiki and I'm certain there could be more. Anyway, this is an editable site for games and lyrics should be a minor thing unless it's needed for games that has music which plays a major role like High School Musical for example. Johnnyauau2000 06:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's just nostalgia. If you would check the history, you'd see it was Procyon who has added most, if not all, of the lyrics (if I recall correctly). And you are correct Rob. I don't care, but if you'd like to remove them, you have SW's scope to back you up. Also, we're still discussing a second wiki for stuff like that, so the future may hold a better home for things like that. -- 03:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * They will be removed eventually. The plan is to move them to the second video game non-walkthrough wiki that we plan to create.  If it really bothers you, you can remove them today.  As long as they are in the history, I can retrieve the text when the other wiki becomes available.  The scope for the second wiki still needs to be defined, but right now it is essentially anything that is expressly video game related that falls outside of SW's scope, including characters, items, locations, history, merchandise, etc.  Contributions that I plan to submit are primarily retro in nature, but they include Pac-Man Fever lyrics, scans of the old Fleer Pac-Man cards and the Topps Donkey Kong cards, scans of vintage retro magazine covers and Atari Force comic books (and possibly other Atari comic books), and descriptions of all the Nintendo Game & Watch series and video game watches that Nelsonic used to make.  Procyon (Talk) 04:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

GTA: SA mission problems
I have got the key card from Millie( I think that is how her name is spelled) but the mission for that is called Key to her heart, i have done all the other onesunder that except breaking the bank at C(i dont know how to spell it) but i am sure you know what I mean. I cant find where to go to get to that mission, could you please tell me where to go. thank you....alishia please email me at purple22_07@yahoo.com
 * Hi. You'd be better off asking on our forums. --DrBob (talk) 16:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Image storage
Hi, is there a page where we can browse the images uploaded to the wiki? I'm looking at the Entropia Universe/Skills page, and all the image links are broken. How can I research uploaded images to see if anything like the references links are in there? Thanks, - naj zere 06:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Special:ImageList. -- 07:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. - naj zere 08:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Image-related question: Is there a way to make images not automatically link to their information page? I'd like to use an image as a link. Specifically, I'd like to mirror a 10x5 table from a game menu, filled with pictures of different items, and have a click on an item result in page navigation to a corresponding anchor. This might confuse users who are used to images directing to information, so I would add instructions to click an item for more information. Is this doable? Thanks, - naj zere 15:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I just thought of using with a rectangle of the same dimensions as the image. Is there a problem with this or a better way? - naj zere 16:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That should work. It's supported natively in MW as of 1.9.  See this and this. Procyon (Talk) 16:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Check the bottom of The King of Fighters '98: The Slugfest. -- Prod (Talk) 18:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for the links. That King of Fighters table is exactly what I'm after. Would it be less resource-intensive to upload one large screenshot of the table and imagemap each item, or upload 50 little images each with their own imagemaps and table them? The individual images would most likely be uploaded anyway for displaying in their respective sections. - naj zere 18:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It depends. The KOF '98 page is a copy of what I did for NeoGeo Battle Coliseum (totally forgot about it too).  I did it that way because I needed those images independently anyway for the character pages.  If you can repurpose the individual images, then do it that way.  If you can't, than use just one large image. Procyon (Talk) 20:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Another image question for you. I just uploaded a bunch of images and catagorized them as Sprites and Castle of the Winds images. How do I create the Castle of the Winds images page, or how do I get it in the Guide-specific images category list? Thanks. - naj zere 21:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Go to Category:Castle of the Winds images and put Category:Guide-specific images in the contents. -- 00:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Would it be worth creating Category:Spells? I've got 34 spell images to upload for Castle of the Winds and I know lots of games have spells with representative images. I was trying to figure out which category besides Guide-specific to put them into, since they're not exactly Items and Sprites is kinda vague. - naj zere 23:18, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If they're images from the game, then use Sprites. Otherwise, use Artwork. Feel free to make a Castle of the Winds spells category, though. I just don't see a need for a global one yet. -- 02:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking of... then take a look at Category:Icons. -- 04:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Scripting and Templates
I have a couple questions about the back-end of the wiki.
 * 1) Is is possible to incorporate JavaScript into the pages?
 * 2) Can I make a parser function?

For the JavaScript, I'm planning on adding some maps with icons marking specific locations. It would be helpful to imagemap the icons and use a mouseover event to describe mini-terrain at the location in a floating textbox, or a div at the top of the image. I want to direct the imagemap to a list of what can be found there, which could also be looked at without coming from the map, so I don't want a bunch of information a reader may not be looking for to confuse them.

I got an idea for a parser function while cleaning up the Castle of the Winds page. We use the kbd template for the buttons, but there is no similar template for menu tabs like File or Edit. Using the same idea as the keyboard template, it would be easy to use something like and return File. What I was thinking of is including the shortcut letter within the template like with the last parameter being the index of the word that is the shortcut, and returning  F ile. I couldn't think of a way to produce this with normal template and wiki markup, but with a couple string functions I think it would be doable. Something like:



to return the word with a letter underlined if there was anything in the index parameter. I'm excluding the parts for adding a hook for a magic word and setting the noparse or isHTML return flags, because I'm not too familiar with how that works. At any rate this might be a little too much work for something that won't be used that often, but thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks as always, - naj zere 19:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless the JS is gonna be widely used, and won't slow down other pages, it might be possible. The underlining one is very easy to make a template for and I'll see about setting that up this weekend sometime. -- Prod (Talk) 20:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, thanks. By the way, any idea why the tags aren't working in my signature anymore? - naj zere 20:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably because is a deprecated tag. Use instead . As for making custom PHP parser functions, try to find an alternative by using what we already have installed/enabled, since there are ways to already accomplish this that involve the same amount of user input (hint: use the  tag, and/or the #switch parser function). -- 21:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why not accomplish the underline simply by calling ? If you really want to go with the complex parser function method, a better syntax would be , which is the canonical ASCII representation of such mnemonics (at least on Linux). The parser function would then just underline the letter after the underscore. --DrBob (talk) 22:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, whatever's easier. If you wanted to handle all the menu options, you'd have to be able to output something like Hi s tory too. I wouldn't know how to get a template to underscore just the first letter of a string without using some string functions anyway. Putting the underscore before the letter would also have the benefit that you wouldn't have to error trap for numbers greater than the length of the string or non-numeric input, and you wouldn't have to figure out which parameter was which either. - naj zere 22:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * , . -- Prod (Talk) 16:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey looks good, way to go figuring out how to avoid the parser! - naj zere 19:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't avoid the parser :) -- 20:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Game updates
It's been like weeks since I manage to deal with "The Godfather". So far, I don't know any new games coming in from the Wii and the Virtual Console. Would anyone at least update me on any games coming in from the Nintendo Wii console (and maybe other consoles) because I feel like I'm in a low. At least it should help keep me interested. Johnnyauau2000 08:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Johnny, what exactly are you asking for here? You want the staff to alert you as to when guides for Wii games need to be updated?  Because I can assure you we're all way too busy to keep track of that kind of information.  If that is an interest of yours, I recommend that you track changes and updates from your favorite Wii news website.  There are tons of new games being released on disc and for download for the Wii, especially around this time of year.  Procyon (Talk) 14:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be nice if we could easily have a "new releases" section on each console page, but unfortunately I can't think of any way to do that without a project or specific person to keep it up. Is there enough interest in that?  I wouldn't mind updating a list for some time to see if the idea is feasible.-- Duke  Ruckley Talk 17:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be interesting to see if we could parse the RSS feed from game-releases.net and feed that into our wiki format. We should take this discussion to the forums.  Procyon (Talk) 17:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a start. I haven't seen anymore "new" games coming out. Even compare to PS3, Xbox360, PS2, PSP, DS and PC, the Wii side is the least update section than any other section I know. No offence but that's my feeling. I understand what you're saying but it would be nice to have a "new releases" section. There's no downside to it since the Strategy Wiki hardly updates their main site. I hope it will work out soon. Johnnyauau2000 00:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The down side is that it takes a lot of work to keep updated. It will not work itself out, someone needs to start it.  If adding a list like that interests you, do feel free to start it.  For the moment, there are better sources of this information, and it isn't completely within our scope just yet. -- Prod (Talk) 03:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Use Wikipedia if you want to know all the upcoming games. For the most part, they are pretty accurate. RobJ1981 05:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mario Kart Wii controls.
I hate to say but Wanderer is retaining the table and I don't want to get into a dispute over the table. I wish there is a way to settle it down without getting into a reverting argument. Even a few months Wanderer would continue reverting the table. It's like he's obsessed with it. Anyway, I could use some help in settling this without any trouble getting out of hand. Johnnyauau2000 07:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Same with the table I fixed earlier when I compare with the manual that goes along with Super Smash Bros Brawl and he could be a headache I might add. Johnnyauau2000 07:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * As long as all of the content in the manual has been covered, then unless you can actually test it, there's nothing you can do. Wanderer is verifying additional information/corrections to such info. I don't have the game, but in this case a third party is vital to verifying the content. -- 10:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You have a point there. If there is a third party, it would be helpful in verifying info. I don't know any third party support but it should be useful for games that has conflicting content. By the way, what's a third party?Johnnyauau2000 13:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Aha, it's someone other than those in conflict. The term "party" refers to the fact that it could be a group, rather than an individual. Someone like one of the sysops. -- 23:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Replacing images
What's the best way to replace an image? I uploaded some images for the Dog Island Bug Collector page, and I need to redo the background on some of them so they blend in with the table better. If I upload an image with the same file name, will it overwrite the old one? Do I put delete templates on the old images? Do we need to keep them because they were once seen on the wiki? Thanks, - naj zere 06:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it will, but it'll keep the old one in the history. No need to delete the old ones.  We don't HAVE to keep them, but there's no point deleting old versions.  Just upload new versions to the same name.  You may have to clear your cache to see the new images though. -- Prod (Talk) 06:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus, deleting old revisions doesn't actually remove them from the filesystem (aka they can still be undeleted), so from a space standpoint it doesn't make any sense to delete old revisions either :) -- 14:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)