User talk:Fionordequester

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Testing
Your test edit on Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation/Getting Started worked and has been deleted. If you wish to test out the system and wiki markup, please use the sandbox instead. Thanks for understanding! —  Pro cyon  02:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation
I cleaned up Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation and Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation/Table of Contents to try and bring them inline with the rest of the site. I highly encourage you to read our StrategyWiki Guide in order to become more familiar with the policies of the site, and to examine our other Dragon Quest guides, particularly Dragon Warrior II and Dragon Warrior III. I think your Table of Contents for DQ6 is way too broken down and many of those links should be organized into larger groupings. Let us know if you have any questions.  Pro cyon  02:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I've rearranged the ToC slightly. One thing still required is to switch from title case to sentence case. If any of titles are directly from in-game, they can follow in-game case. Otherwise, only the first word, and proper nouns should be capitalized. -- Prod (talk) 14:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Are the chapter/level names taken directly from of the game? If so, follow their case. We like to stay as true to the game as possible.  Everything else in the ToC should be sentence case.
 * Always glad to help, feel free to ask any questions! -- Prod (talk) 18:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Neutral point of view
Guides are open for anyone to edit, and to accomodate multiple authors we've decided to use a neutral point of view, meaning content should be written in the third person, with no opinions and a somewhat professional tone. Please keep this in mind as you're editing, and try to avoid words like "I" or "we", or use of slang or non-factual information. Thanks for helping us keep our guide pages polished! —  Pro cyon  00:57, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I apologize, but for the reason stated above, I had to delete your "Goals of this Walkthrough" page. Actually for a number of reasons.  Please remember that SW is a collaborative community.  You may be the primary author of a guide, but several other people can and will contribute to it along with you, so there is no claim of ownership over any guide on this site, it's the product of collective effort.  Additionally, the goals you stated for the guide are pretty much the goals of every guide on the site, so it was a bit redundant to state that explicitly for this one particular guide.  Please bare in mind that the majority audience of this guide will not be speed runners, but rather casual players.  Also, watch out for your tendency to rely heavily on the phrase "that said."  Thanks.   Pro  cyon  01:11, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Responses
A couple of things: Lastly, please bare in mind that you are guilty of doing the same thing you accuse other guide authors of doing: writing about how to beat the game the way you're used to beating the game, only in your case, you're not taking the time to consider why the reader is consulting the guide. Yes, some players will want to know, and be grateful for, an explanation about the best way to do it. But many players consult a guide only when they need help, and by that time, they have probably strayed far from the most optimized path through the game. The members of this audience should not be neglected, or your guide will be substantially less useful to them than the others that you've criticized. This isn't a personal attack on your approach; It sounds like the guide you envisioned would be excellent for seasoned players. But the goal of this site is to help players of all levels, so we work very hard to address all visitors to the site, not just pros.  Pro cyon  12:28, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) The filename for the map that you uploaded should at least begin with DQ6, or something else to indicate what game it's from.
 * 2) The text at the top of the map should be removed.  That text should only exist in the upload description of the file, not on the map itself.
 * 3) The uploaded screenshots should ideally be at the native resolution of the system they were taken from.  So if those are SNES screenshots, they should be at 256x224 resolution (or 256x240 if you're not clipping the top 8 and bottom 8 scanlines.)
 * 4) The text in the walkthrough is fine.  However, please don't link to individual items, we tend not to do that here.  You can do something like: Seeds of Life, assuming you have a page named Items with a heading named Seeds.  It will take the reader to the start of the Seeds header on the Items page.
 * The ToC is much better, thanks! A few of the Getting Started/Appendices links needs the same treatment. -- Prod (talk) 18:39, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Knowing how much or how little emphasis to give to a point in your walkthrough is a learning process. I've been writing guides since 1996, and I made my first contribution to SW in 2006.  I'm still learning how to make that determination.  I look back on a lot of my older guides and cringe.  The only difference between now and then is that I know I won't get it right on my first try.  Another difficulty that new editors have when starting here is dissecting your ego from your writing.  This was true for me as well.  It's why a lot of established GameFAQs authors don't like contributing to wikis.  They don't like giving up complete control over the content, and removing any self-attribution from their work.  Speaking of which, I moved your Special Thanks section to the talk page on the Walkthrough, as that was a more appropriate location for it.  The Walkthrough page, like all content pages, should be free of any personalization.  Let us know if you need any more help.   Pro  cyon  00:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Regarding the ego bit, it may help to point out that we're modeled directly after Wikipedia, and we follow their rules and philosophy of collaborative contribution with very little exception. So if you're used to contributing at Wikipedia, contributing here feels more natural.  If you haven't contributed to Wikipedia, then yeah, it's an adjustment.  Concerning the Walkthrough page, the best thing to put there if you're not sure, is a brief overview of the game (as spoiler free as possible, but that's tough to pull off).  Descriptions of alternate pathways through the game are also a good idea.  Again, existing Dragon Warrior guides should provide some examples, as well as any of our featured guides, which have been community selected as the best examples the site has to offer.  I highly encourage you to examine these guides and "steal" ideas from them liberally.  Pro  cyon  03:56, 5 June 2016 (UTC)