Talk:MapleStory

Templates

 * Template:MapleStory/itemtable (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/itemtablestart (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/item (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/tablestyle (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Skill (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Skill desc (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Quest (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Monster (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Training location (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC/Jobs (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC/Jobs/sub (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC/Quests (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC/Towns (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/TOC/Monsters (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Jobs (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Versions (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Versions/Areas (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Versions/Jobs (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Versions/Accompaniments (Talk)
 * Template:MapleStory/Versions/Other (Talk)

How to open and install a patcher file from FTP..
Someone can teach me by steps?it will really help me.--Ofir38 15:56, 17 September 2007 (CDT)

About Ludibrium Maze PQ
Japanese site http://maplestory.netgamers.jp/ says that the PQ is to lv 70 in japanese version of Maple. In Official Maple Story Global site is an information, that in Global the PQ is for levels 35-50. Do you think that there are more major changes? -- Vigilium 03:39, 18 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I think it is some horrible typo... Two PQ's for 35-50 in the same town no less would be dumb.plus no way level 50 could kill Taurospears in that PQ.--IsaacGS 06:59, 18 September 2007 (CDT)

GMS Halloween Event Town
GMS will be getting a brand new Halloween town in the month of October. There's 3 monsters for it which you may have seen I have already added, plus several NPCs and a good bit of impressive looking Map objects. There will also be an exclusive pet "Jr. Reaper" coming along with this. Please don't add a page for this, however, until we get a real name for it.--IsaacGS 00:10, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

ThailandMS Cave of Life?
The patch notes mention Cave of Life. Did ThailandMS get it? Also, the road names did not change for Leafre (no Minar Forest road names). -- Takiten 01:24, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Didn't get it. In the patch notes means "Release whole Leafre map except for Cave of Life". (In the last canyon map doesn't have a warp portal to Cave of Life.) -- PiPU 03:48, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

Maple Story Global 0.43?
Check the ftp server, please. There's somethings strange:

Hello, Maplers. MapleStory Client ver. 0.43 is now released. This is for test. We hope you enjoy the newly updated contents for MapleStory. Happy Mapling! -The MapleStory Staff-

There is the patcher in "patchdir" directory already. -- Vigilium 02:25, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, check this thread:

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1319964 all sorts of crazy stuff going in. O_O--IsaacGS 02:26, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * OMG 0_0 The weapons looks GREAT. The Spear is way too good though ;). Do you have problems with entering MS Global now? -- Vigilium 02:32, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Haven't tried, I hear it's not working properly though.--IsaacGS 02:34, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

I always disconnect in the moment, when I double-click my character. Many Europeans have the same problem. Probably it's just becouse of the patch, but I wonder if players from the States have the same problem... -- Vigilium 02:40, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I can get in just fine, but those new avatar smegas are really annoying >_<. Plus, Nexon nicely expanded the curse word filter so you can't carry on a normal conversation. On top of that (I haven't been able to confirm this, though), it appears that it sometimes causes your USB ports to "burn out" (aka stop working), so if you have a USB keyboard, you're probably going to die. -- 15:27, 19 September 2007 (CDT)
 * My brother is on, he has been logged in since last night, but I've been busy examining the data so I still haven't tried. The problem with the keyboards, it has nothing to do with the USB ports I believe, it's caused by a problem with switching from mouse movements to keyboard controls (IE shifting between the game plane and the windows and menus). It happens with all keyboard, though with different levels of Severity.--IsaacGS 16:50, 19 September 2007 (CDT)

KMS ver1.2.45
KMS patches to ver1.2.45. Getting the 2 new boss and southperry extend.http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspxURL=News/UpdatePreBoard&maskPageType=2&oidArticle=4 --Fideltan 02:58, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

Bob the Snail Quest
Does anyone know if the quest is finished? I did Grendel, Gwin and even The Rememberer's part positively, but Bruce part seems to be not finished. He wants you to talk to Winston, what is imposible. -- Vigilium 04:50, 21 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Winston's quest text isn't in the data yet, and it is disabled by date at the moment. There's also more quests relating to Bob from Dances with Balrog, Cody, and several other NPCs. Apparently this will be a running storyline over the next few months. I think there's something wrong because they didn't even put it in the patch notes, perhaps it was released prematurely.--IsaacGS 15:52, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't think it was released prematurely or Nexon would've removed it in a server check or something. Besides, there is an image of a green snail on the world/channel select screen, which I'm guessing is Bob. -- 20:10, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Well I have now finished as much of it as is possible now... It still doesn't make any sense, there's at least 5 quests we haven't had added yet. It doesn't even really end, there's just an abrupt unavailability to continue. Besides, I don't think they can disable quests with a server check. o-o--IsaacGS 21:30, 28 September 2007 (CDT)

Henesys Party Quest
In the quest you have 10 minutes to plant the seeds and protect the bunny, not 10 minutes for seeds and 3 minutes for protecting it. If you manage to plant the seeds faster, the bunny have more time to make cakes. It is a single stage, not 2 stages. If it would be always 3 minutes the bunny will always make 10 cakes -_-*. Dunno why IsaacGS has reverted my edits. -- Vigilium 11:17, 21 September 2007 (CDT)
 * When I did Henesys PQ, we took a long time. It got down to 2 minutes before we found the last seed. Then, when the bunny spawned, the timer went back up to 3 minutes. So it may be that it only changed to 3 minutes if you have less time than that, and if you have more than 3 minutes it uses your remaining time. It should probably be investigated, as I've only done henesys PQ in GMS a handful of times.--IsaacGS 11:48, 21 September 2007 (CDT)
 * When I did Henesis PQ first time we did it so long that the bunny has no time to make 10 cakes. The timer stopped when the bunny did only 7. Monsters didn't even touch it. I have no idea why the timer gave you bonus time. 0_0 strange thing. -- Vigilium 12:16, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

Speaking of Henesys PQ, I found this ad: http://mxd.sdo.com/web2005/events/events_index.asp?id=145 For CMS. Might they be getting Henesys PQ soon, since all the graphics in that ad are related to it in some way? It's about some event schedule which is unrelated though.--IsaacGS 20:26, 23 September 2007 (CDT)

Fortune Teller System, a minigame?
Fortune Teller System is not a minigame at all. In MapleSEA, you nid to buy a fortune ticket, talk to yaibua, she will give you one fortune ticket 0-9. example, ticket 0 add 20speed and 30 jump for 1 hour. You cannot play anything. How can you say it is a minigame? --Fideltan 01:34, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Than Gachapon isn't a mini-game also. -- Hurricane 09:55, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes. If we don't count Fortune teller, then we don't get gachapon as one either. And then, you're just talking to an NPC, why count RPS because again, it's just interacting with an NPC? Just leave it alone.--IsaacGS 15:50, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

Magatia has 2 more monsters
Magatia has 2 more monsters, one is in the way to Magatia and one is Magatia PQ's boss. Can someone extract the data of JMS and add it to the monsters page? -- Hurricane 12:09, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Have to wait till they patch next week. -- Takiten 12:22, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, I thought they patched already. Well, here's the FTP if someone wants to create his own manual patcher: ftp://download.nexon.co.jp/NexonJapan/maple/patch/notice/ -- Hurricane 12:27, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I have known that Magatia has several monster we don't have listed for some time now. One is a "ghost" scientist, and because he is transparent you can't get a clean image of it by cropping it from the game. Another is the sand mole, and dozens spawn on one map at a time all on ground level, so it's hard to see one alone. The last one (that I know of) is the PQ boss, it looks like Frankenstein. There may be more PQ monsters. TK said that he would send me the mob.wz for JMS when they got Magatia so once that happens I'll update the stats.--IsaacGS 15:48, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

A new pet?
Well, I used Online Banned Story 2.1 and I've found this monster but as a pet:
 * http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Monsters/Level_11-20#Baby_White_Monkey
 * Can someone confirm that they has it? -- Hurricane 01:05, 27 September 2007 (CDT)
 * We'll have to wait for PiPU to confirm that, but last I checked those weren't there. I'll look again though.--IsaacGS 01:55, 27 September 2007 (CDT)
 * It's in ThaiMS 0.38 data (Leafre patch). but doesn't release at this time. Here's the pic. http://download.yousendit.com/1AC481EE635F7919 -- PiPU 04:26, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

"exclusive" template
We don't need to mark things created in KMS with "exclusive" flags. 98% of the game is created in Korea and that's unnecessary, redundant, and pointless. Things created in another version are unusual, and the leaf is supposed to be a differentiator. So stop putting leaves on KMS things.--IsaacGS 17:38, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

TaiwanMS got Henesys PQ?
Well, have a look at this: http://tw.maplestory.gamania.com/event/20070919/moon.htm do you think they got HPQ? -- Hurricane 01:36, 30 September 2007 (CDT)
 * According to our charts, TaiwanMS has had Henesys PQ for some time. O_o At any rate, that ad is for the Moon Festival, not Henesys PQ. That's the yellow bunny which is on the MapleStory/Monsters page for some time now.--IsaacGS 02:00, 30 September 2007 (CDT)

MapleSEA ver0.47
MapleSEA having a new patch on 4/10. Getting Loads of things. Amoria, Leafre Dragon Forest/Canyon, New BGM for Shanghai Map. Monster Identifier and super more. Go to-http://forums.playpark.net/showthread.php?t=153606...Fideltan 05:24, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The patch notes only say Dragon Forest. We'll have to wait and see if they get the Canyon too. -- Takiten 12:03, 2 October 2007 (CDT)
 * It seems that the patch file is 113 MB (118,863,878 bytes). I'm going to find out the new data as soon as my client will be downloaded. Why do I have a feeling that I will find some NLC data? -- Hurricane
 * Lots of nice data there. Everything's been updated here.--IsaacGS 23:05, 3 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Here's the website:http://forums.playpark.net/showthread.php?t=154886. Looks like we're having Stumpede too--Fideltan 00:18, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I did my own thread at sleepywood. http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1326302 is the patch over yet?--IsaacGS 00:25, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 * it didnt even start yet.. according to
 * the mapletip forum saying that
 * 0 Days 05 Hours 40 Mins 04 Secs and it changes... i mean its auto clock you dont have to refresh the page.. almost 6 hours more til patch EVEN START
 * They started to patch. The game servers will be opened in 15 minutes. -- Hurricane 03:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 * They released Dragon Canyon Maps, and they stop till Cave Of Live-Entrance. They also got Upgraded World Maps and Party Leader Changing System that were not listed in the patch notes. --Fideltan 02:26, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Do you all wan the new world maps? I hav most of them.- Xiaozhu 2007 07:12, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
 * We already have the new maps.--IsaacGS 13:59, 6 October 2007 (CDT)

Wedding Village
Instead of having "Saint Cathedral Only" and "Saint Cathedral and Hair Salon Only" for KMS/JMS/MSEA, wouldn't it be better to just make a new row called "Wedding Village"? Since their Amoria is so different from ThaiMS and GMS, it's like a completely different town, but using the same graphics. Plus it actually is called "Wedding Village" in those versions anyway instead of "Amoria". And the Hair salon in MSEA shouldn't really be mentioned on the town availability chart anyway. We can also make a "Wedding Village" sub-section in the Amoria article. that explains the differences (hair salon) from each version. -- Takiten 16:09, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I was thinking this yesterday... I think, though, that we need to emphasize the fact that they are in fact equivalent areas, unlike PBI and Amoria were. But the fact that the hair salon and such are present in MSEA makes it just as different as GMS' version is from KMS'. At some point, though, we do need to figure out what to do with this.--IsaacGS 17:15, 4 October 2007 (CDT)
 * TaiwanMS getting Amoria on 17/10. Likely to be the patch 0.59. Looks like KMS Amoria not GMS Amoria. --Fideltan 05:56, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * But wait... There's no Wedding Shop in the korean version... OMG, are we gonna see ANOTHER version of Amoria? Geez, no town has ever been reinvented so many times. >_>--IsaacGS 13:32, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I wonder why every version gets the KMS's Amoria. Maybe they think GMS can't make good towns so they take them from KMS. >_> -- Hurricane 14:11, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * GMS version of Amoria is infinitely better than that craptastic wedding village from KMS. I guess they just don't want the wedding town to have any other uses (like monster hunting. >_>)--IsaacGS 14:14, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Didn't we get Amoria with no monsters? Just a patch after we got Amoria we got Sakura Cellion. Maybe they'll get Amoria dungeon in the future. After all, that's the only reason why you should get marry (The PQ). -- Hurricane 14:21, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * But no version has the monsters yet except ThailandMS, and when they patched in Amoria they got the sakura Cellions with it. I don't think any of the other versions will get the dungeon, at least not in the form of GMS.--IsaacGS 14:23, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, we'll just have to wait and see. I wonder which Amoria EMS will get... what do you think? -- Hurricane 14:29, 5 October 2007 (CDT)
 * No way to know. I never would have thought that JMS would nerf it... --IsaacGS 16:37, 5 October 2007 (CDT)

Does TaiwanMS and MapleSEA's Wedding Villages have Cosmetic Shops too? JapanMS has both Hair and Cosmetics now. -- Takiten 15:44, 2 November 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, MSEA has all the Hair/Face/Eye shops, no clue about TaiwanMS though. JMS just upgraded the KMS version into the MSEA version. (Makes me wonder if they might upgrade to the GMS one in the future...)--IsaacGS 17:49, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

New job-pirates!
seems like there is a new job in Kmst 1.2.106! pirates! http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1326791&page=18 you can see the images of the guns and glove boxing of the new job! will they release 1st job then 2nd job? or all 4th job together?! who knows... and seems like that the new town in victoria island going to be expanded .. because of 2nd job 3rd job and 1 more npc will be added to leafre .. the pirate 4th job npc Discuss here Moshik1212

ThaiMS 4th Job on October, 24
here's the news - http://www.manager.co.th/Game/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9500000118158 \>w</ -- PiPU 15:24, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Very nice. I can't believe they are getting 4th job before even Korean Folk Town. O_o Isn't it very important for a lot of skills?--IsaacGS 15:29, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I found a website saying that 4th job will be out in ThaiMS. http://maple.asiasoft.co.th/img/flash/banner_4th_job.swf I think that cave of live(Hornedtail) should be out too, as you see doing 4th job need to kill hornedtail. --Fideltan 05:39, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I saw that yesterday... It's the same Flash that TaiwanMS used. But do you know for a fact that Horntail is being released? You can't really assume that, yet. Two things that you can assume will come with 4th job are Tylus monster of El Nath PQ and the two Archer summon birds.--IsaacGS 11:38, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * This event page announced Horned Tail and Helios Tower will be released in this patch. http://maple.asiasoft.co.th/newsPreview.asp?contID=5470 -- PiPU 12:26, 12 October 2007 (CDT)

New Version, Hong Kong MS
looks like a new version is starting up this month. http://www.maplestory.com.hk/ We'll have to add this on the 23rd when they start up.--IsaacGS 23:53, 6 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Doesn't the website say that it will open on 10th? - Wkkim9292 00:03, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I saw 10 10 23, so i thought 23rd... Can you read it? O_O--IsaacGS 00:06, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I can only read the dates and nothing else. The date clearly says 10th. - Wkkim9292 00:12, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * It says it will open at 4PM, 10th of October. Wkkim9292 00:13, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah, what's the 23 then?--IsaacGS 00:34, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I don't know what 23 is but after intro, it says 10th of October at 1600hrs. - Wkkim9292 01:21, 7 October 2007 (CDT)

I think it means the beta will start on 10/10 until 23/10 if i am not wrong XreddevilsX 01:27, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Yup, it close beta test starts at October 10 and ends at October 23 至 = to/between/through. Macau IPs are also allow to play Hong Kong MS. -- ★ ~MΛRXΘΓ~ ★  =]  Want to?|undefined/Wi-Fi Gaming|undefined 00:35, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * That makes sense, they're kinda in the same boat. That's a really short closed beta though. O_O--IsaacGS 02:07, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * So When are we going to add this, 10th or 23rd October? --Fideltan 02:48, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * 10th, as soon as someone can get info on it.--IsaacGS 02:55, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The beta is from 10th to 26th of October.--Xiaozhu 2007 21:23, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Looks like no one had gotten the info of HKMS... --Fideltan 01:55, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I just downloaded HKMS and found a lot of data that are taken from TMS. Primary scanning shows: New World Maps, Wu Lung, Leafre, Kerning Extensions, Ludibrium, Aquaroad, KFT, oPQ, Guild Quest, Showa, China (with PVP Town), Taiwan and Thailand... It's basically everything from TMS ><--Scopelenz 06:58, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

we should already add the halloween town to the charts
like we did the same about beer tent.. we putted it in the charts before it was patched so i think we should do the same about halloween town but we need to considor a few things ofcourse its exclusive and we dunnu if its perment or like happyvile that opens only in christmas and that is all what do you think we should do? Moshik1212 06:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * We still know nothing about it. We'll add it when we have some more information about it. -- Hurricane 08:36, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm waiting to make the page when we actually know the town's name. We don't even know what it's called. Preliminary, we'll put it in Events, but if it is still there after the November patch, then I'll move it up to Masteria.--IsaacGS 12:15, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

Look at this
http://maple.asiasoft.co.th/index.html? It appears to be a poll asking the Thai maplers what town they want next. CBD of Singapore, Taipei 101, and even NLC are listed as options. That's a real shock, wouldn't you agree?--IsaacGS 11:43, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * These are the exclusive towns to the SEA, TaiwanMS and GMS respectively. Maybe their question is, If we can choose any town, which town would you want to release first. --Fideltan 01:50, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

How do I know?
I want to upload the new halloween monsters to Strategywiki but I want to know if they are already are uploaded, how do I know if they are? Thanks for answering me. -- Hurricane 12:53, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Check the levels. If you know their official names then you can look through . But I think I uploaded them all (the Hoodoo/Voodoo, Rocking horse and the 3 colored books.) so there shouldn't be a need to upload more.--IsaacGS 13:00, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Umm... where's ? Is it this one?

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/StrategyWiki:Categories:MapleStory_monster_images because it has nothing. -- Hurricane 13:32, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * this is the correct address http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Category:MapleStory_monster_images It's pretty big though. --IsaacGS 15:55, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * You guys DO know that if you put a colon before Category, you can make an internal link to a category without including the page in the category, right? If not, here's a quick example: Category:MapleStory monster images = Category:MapleStory monster images. -- 17:43, 10 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I didn't know that XD I've never needed to link to a category before. o-o--IsaacGS 19:09, 10 October 2007 (CDT)

Gms patch 0.44-Masteria expanasion! halloween towm.....
http://www.destructoid.com/maplestory-announces-halloween-content-makes-even-skeletons-cute-48557.phtml looks pretty nice.. wonder where its .. there should be more updates Moshik1212 01:04, 11 October 2007 (CDT)Moshik1212
 * Link is good enough, don't copy. Anyway, yeah it's nice, but wait until patch data is up to make the page, we don't know what it will be all of still.--IsaacGS 01:08, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Isaac, do you a good forum where I can post the patch info/data? SW isn't working. o.o -- Hurricane 01:32, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Not really. xD I'm just gonna be getting it ready for whenever SW is back up.--IsaacGS 01:37, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * LOL. Try to click on Enter Forum in SW using Tab (digression ;) ). -- Vigilium 02:55, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * It actually leads to this: http://adurah.com/img/ But don't enter this website. A lot of pop ups will apper until your computer will get stuck.
 * My PC did not stuck ;P. Funny thing. -- Vigilium 03:29, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The patch flash: http://msfile.nexon.net/Uploaded/Img/common/post/post_20071010_halloween/loader.swf

The town name is just "Haunted House". There is only one map outside of the town that is accessible without NX cash as far as I know, but it looks like you can summon something there if you drop a specific item on the tombstone. The mansion itself has tons of maps, but you have to pay NX to get in. The quests are listed under the "Event" tab instead of Masteria. So I'm thinking this town will only be available during Halloween. It might need to be moved to "Event towns" on the town chart if it does turn out to be just an event town. -- Takiten 14:15, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Now there's a ticker going across the top of the screen saying the Haunted House will remain as a normal area and not just an event map. The mansion itself will be opened to the public in November and anyone will be able to enter it (No NX required). So I guess this means it will stay in Masteria. But the EMS version of the Haunted house will probably be a event map only used during halloween instead. -- Takiten 17:09, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

EMS is getting the halloween map+NLC O_O
Thanks for Moshik for telling me about that. It seems that MapleEurope is getting our's (GMS) Halloween map. http://image.mapleeurope.com/en/flash/center_flash.swf Are they getting NLC and that Halloween map? WOW. -- Hurricane 04:50, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Well it's "possible" that EMS is just getting the Mansion without the Phantom Forest or NLC. This is something we will have to wait for the patch to see. There's no mention of NLC though so it's unlikely for them to just sneak NLC in without saying anything about it. -- Takiten 06:42, 11 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The way you get to the Haunted House is just through a NPC, so it is very possible for EMS to get the Haunted House without NLC. They can just put a random NPC somewhere on Victoria that you talk to that sends you to the Haunted House town map. -- Takiten 14:25, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

HKMS - When are we going to add it?
It is out. We should add it. Anyone has some information about it? -- Hurricane 09:57, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Been trying to get something; someone needs to start a new column though. ;) --Scopelenz 11:26, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Well I'm downloading it right now... You can download it here:
 * http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/470886/1//Link_for_HKMS_setup_parts.html# -- Hurricane 11:36, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I have created a thread on HKMS availability in Sleepywood. http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1329214 - Wkkim9292 16:35, 12 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Just found the FTP of HKMS: ftp://patch.maplestory.com.hk/maplestory/patch/notice there is a 0.02 patch info but it's just for a test. I've tried to make a new patcher but it says the patch information is wrong. -- Hurricane 10:30, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

Shanghai Upgrade in CMS Test Server
Apparently there is now a bottom lane in the town map. Not sure if there are anymore changes. Source:
 * There must be other changes; several of those NPCs are new, so at the very least they added a lot more quests.--IsaacGS 05:54, 13 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok got more info. Apparently the hot air balloon will become a portal to another hot air balloon in one of the other hunting maps. Neat feature. And tons of new quests are introduced, including one that crosses over to Thailand! Things are sure linking together now for the world tour! BTW how do you sign after a comment? XD
 * Isn't that Chef NPC from Formosa? I wonder if ChinaMS is just stealing some Formosa NPCs since they won't ever release Formosa. Unless I'm just mistaken. Also it looks like the Shanghai town map is shorter length wise... Maybe they just shortened it so its not such a long walk to each end and back. -- Takiten 15:57, 13 October 2007 (CDT)

Haunted House
In GlobalMS, Haunted House can be accessed by the taxi in New Leaf City. But differently, other versions don't have New Leaf City. In ChinaMS and TaiwanMS, how do they get to Haunted House? By the way, are there any clues how the players from ThailandMS and EuropeMS are going to be reached to the Haunted House? - Wkkim9292 23:30, 14 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I believe someone said that Edmunds, the butler from inside the mansion, admits them to it.--IsaacGS 23:31, 14 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Should we bother saying that Masteria is now in CMS, TMS, ThaiMS, and EMS too when their version of the Haunted House is (probably) not going to be in Masteria? I think we need to either mark their "Yes"'s on the town availability chart with a ref saying "Event Town only available during October" for those versions, or have a seperate Haunted House entry under "Event Towns" and put yes on those versions and not GMS. -- Takiten 23:52, 14 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I think that a separate section may be in order, their Halloween area is obviously different from ours.--IsaacGS 00:32, 15 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Hmm.. But the content (Map Portals and Monsters) is similar or even identical to those in GMS. Maybe just listing them as an Event Town would be sufficient.--Antikel 06:47, 15 October 2007 (CDT)
 * But in GMS, it has been specifically called a "Masteria Expansion", as well as being confirmed as permanent. For the other versions, it is merely a themed town for the nearest holiday. Also, sign your comments with --~, please! --IsaacGS 01:03, 15 October 2007 (CDT)
 * So that's how you do it. Thanks XD. So listing them under the Event Town would be more accurate eh?

CMS 0.56
Looks like CMS patching to 0.56 duirng Late Oct to Early Nov. A hint from website: http://mxd.sdo.com/web2005/news/news.asp?newsid=7752. --Fideltan 21:06, 15 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok it seems that the new patch will release the Halloween Mansion along with the quests, and an updated Shanghai as posted in the screeny a few posts above. I can read Chinese XD --Antikel 22:47, 15 October 2007 (CDT)

New Leaf City Potions and Foods
Can anyone tell me all the New Leaf City Potions and Foods (only sold in New Leaf City) Thanks! --Fideltan 21:22, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, there's a lot of them. Supreme Pizza (a full pizza, not the slice.) Grilled Cheese, Cherry Pie, Mapleade, Honster, Mana Bull, Ginger Ale, Ginseng, Thief/Warrior/Wizard/Archer Elixirs (despite the name, they're usable by all classes), Sorcerer Elixir, Barbarian Elixir, and Waffle. Also it has all the regular varieties of Potion, plus things like Melting Cheese and Reindeer's milk. Basically every potion in the game is sold here.--IsaacGS 22:58, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Wow! There are so much of them. Anyway, Thanks! --Fideltan 23:35, 16 October 2007 (CDT)

KMST 1.2.108 Mansion
Their mansion is totally different from Everyone else's. It has a different layout, different monsters (and nerfed versions of the regular monsters.) and different quests. Even the NPCs look different. There's also an item to transform into Sophilia and a Party quest for 4 characters over level 10. What should we do? It's obviously not the same.--IsaacGS 18:59, 18 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Erm, u may want to edit the Monster Page, because they are getting the Horse-like monster (Nightmare, I think) and the headless horseman. Info from here: http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspx?URL=Plaza/StoryUCC&maskPageType=2&oidArticle=1663 --Antikel 01:16, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
 * That link doesn't work. O-o --IsaacGS 01:46, 19 October 2007 (CDT)

Yea he is right you SHOULD edit the monster page the link works for me and he is right about everything he said Moshik1212 16:17, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I got my hands on KMST monster data, the stats are all screwed up, but yeah, every monster from ours is present there, but with different stats. I'll modify the event monsters page and then the main monsters page.--IsaacGS 20:30, 19 October 2007 (CDT)

Gms patch 0.45! o_o thats odd
seems like there is a patch tomrrow o_o http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1334285

thats odd.. everything from the cs preview is in data+the event isnt over yet.. i think its a bug fixing patch. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moshik1212 (talk • contribs).
 * It's been too long for a bug fix patch, and I can't even think of any major bugs that would require such a patch.--IsaacGS 13:02, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 * I knew it! Everytime when Nexon doesn't upload the new cash shop items to their server 1 to 3 days after the older server check, there is a patch for sure. Just like the last patch. Nexon uploaded the new cash shop items like 2 days before the patch. Now we know when there's a patch. OMG I CAN'T WAIT! But I have to go to sleep soon. xD -- Hurricane 14:31, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The Patch has less than 2 megabites.... -_- -- Vigilium 08:14, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah I know. -__- but look at the bright side, we'll have another patch in 1 or 2 weeks. :D -- Hurricane 15:10, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

HKMS Official Release?
HKMS Official Release Date is 23/10/07. I looked up on the HKMS website but it didn't have any difference. There is no patch either. I HKMS still beta or become official? I made a thread in Sleepywood. If you want to discuss this at sleepywood, please come and discuss it there. - Wkkim9292 20:02, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 * HKMS officially opens at 11/01/07 (Nov 1) not 23/10/07. it is changed: http://www.maplestory.com.hk/cb/notice.html Only allows when Chinese is in your PC. --Fideltan 00:21, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Items/Equipment?
So... why doesn't this game have a master item list? -- 03:54, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, this has been brought up many times, and attempted a few times as well. There was even a category for it a few months back, don't know if it still exists. The main problem is that it's a constantly expanding thing, and each version goes about it in its own way. Unlike monsters and towns, availability can vary wildly. Not to mention that the same piece of equipment isn't even necessarily the same between any two versions. Prod can probably explain better why we decided it wasn't a good idea.--IsaacGS 04:49, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Hidden street has a very good database already and they try to keep that up-to-date. Basil market is also good for items since they also keep track of market prices (to an extent).  We could add an items list, it's just not necessary and probably wouldn't be useful. -- Prod (Talk) 09:08, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

GMS 0.46?
Anyone knows what GMS getting? I think it should be the free access to the Mansion as today is Halloween already. --Fideltan 02:27, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
 * We have to wait till there will be something new on FTP server. It usually appears about patching time. Vigilium 06:23, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
 * Normally (now) the patch notes aren't up until the end of the patch. Considering it's scheduled for 2 hours I wouldn't expect much (.45 was scheduled for 5 hours and still had nothing.)--IsaacGS 12:06, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

The notice is the same as 2 previous notices... Another patch with no serious content. (about 1.5 mega) Vigilium 13:03, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
 * The free access to Halloween Mansion still not yet. GMS nowadays having useless patch within weeks. GMS-0.46, SEA-0.47. So close... --Fideltan 00:12, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

the mansion is now acciessable for free :) they made it acciessable few hours after the patch and after halloween event was over in the usa... =]Moshik1212 05:57, 1 November 2007 (CDT)

Jobs (Archer vs thieves)
It says thieves have a few hundred less hp than archers...is this proven?

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Jobs —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cardboardsnail (talk • contribs).
 * Archers and thieves have very close HP for the most part, but on average a hermit and a ranger on the same level will have a difference of around 100 or so points, with the archer just barely being ahead. I don't know how exactly you would go about proving that other than just overall experience from friends and the like (many times when I talk to hermits they have about 80+ less points of HP than I do, and it tends to get larger at higher levels). In reality it only comes into play during third job and beyond, and compared to the difference between archers/thieves and warriors or archers/thieves and mages, they're so close it's fairly irrelevant. If an archer gets a few bad levels and a hermit gets a few good ones it can vary... over time though archers tend to pull ahead.--IsaacGS 00:19, 2 November 2007 (CDT)

HKMS Released Eos Tower?
I Think HKMS did not release Eos Tower. If you go to http://www.maplestory.com.hk/ and press the Orange Mushroom Button it says HKMS released 3 towns. You see? It doesn't says Eos Tower. If the third one is Eos Tower, it will not be 'Toy and Lego Land' --Fideltan 20:17, 7 November 2007 (CST)
 * The First IS 'Icy and Cold Fields' (El Nath)
 * The Second IS 'Earth Defence Headquarters' (Omega Sector)
 * The Third IS 'Toy and Lego Land' (Ludibrium)
 * Common sense. They cannot reach Omega Sector without Eos.--IsaacGS 22:28, 7 November 2007 (CST)

Ems is getting zipangu. o_o
so... as most of you know/will know now Ems is getting zipangu next week! wich is odd because they dont even have 3rd job/aqua duengon/kft/omega source: http://en.mapleeurope.com/Maple.aspx?mode=view&PART=/News/Event&uId=61 discuss o-o Moshik1212 00:56, 8 November 2007 (CST)
 * It is not odd ^_^, they are getting Mushroom Shrine and there is plenty of quests for low levels. It's better for them than aqua dungeon/kft or omega. Vigilium 01:56, 8 November 2007 (CST)

[HKMS] Are Sharenian and Guild Quest out?
I checked Perion's Honourable Rock today, and it seems like a few Guilds' name had already made their name on it. Is it possible for a Guild to earn GP without participating in the Guild Quest? Otherwise, can someone help me check if Guild Quest/ Sharenian are out?

Excavation Site is definitely out (I have just checked it), but I am not in a guild, so I can't access the Guild Quest area. Much help will be appreciated. --Scopelenz 04:28, 8 November 2007 (CST)
 * Nope, the GP meter only exists when Sharenian is released and that's the only way to get points. Hard to believe HKMS has been open for a month and already can take down ergoth.--IsaacGS 10:22, 8 November 2007 (CST)
 * Oh.. thanks for the help! It means that Guild Quest and Sharenian are out in HKMS then! BTW, most of the guilds only managed to earn around 50-150 GPs. They probably finished the first few stages, but couldn't get pass the monsters.--Scopelenz 20:26, 8 November 2007 (CST)

TaiwanMS Patch: 6 New Area Bosses
Here's the site: http://tw.maplestory.gamania.com/event/20071109_v/ind1.html Patch date is 14/11. Maybe someone could update the monsters and respective pages. =) --Antikel 05:33, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 * LOL! that girl there is the jewish Priestess from the Hannukah map in GMS. XD--IsaacGS 13:44, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 * Oh I knew I know her somehow. They will get 2 more stuff but they are still unknown. So area bosses, more quests at Herb Town and KFT, probably that cash item that covers every weapon and 1 more thing. -- Hurricane 14:48, 9 November 2007 (CST)

CMS 0.57
Looks like CMS will have another patch soon. They're getting the Mushroom Town Training Camp, but that's it? o.o Link: http://mxd.sdo.com/web2005/project/20071108v057/index_057.htm -- Hurricane 14:42, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 * I knew they were getting this soon... They've had ads for it and screenshots of it on their site forever. GMS got it alone too...--IsaacGS 13:42, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 * GMS got their second birthday (Not actually birthday, I forgot the word for it... please tell me =P) with it. -- Hurricane 14:42, 9 November 2007 (CST)
 * Are you referring to Anniversary? --Fideltan 20:14, 10 November 2007 (CST)
 * Oh yeah, thanks. =P --Hurricane 00:15, 11 November 2007 (CST)

What is that?
TWMS will get a new thing to their character's profile, that's the flash:
 * Well the Heart in the corner signals whether a character is married or not... No clue what the other thing is, It's not in KMS.--IsaacGS 11:55, 12 November 2007 (CST)
 * Well it's in HKMS as well. o.o --Hurricane 12:42, 12 November 2007 (CST)
 * The other 2 new additions are Blood Type (Weird, but true) and Birthday of the player. =)--Antikel 03:53, 13 November 2007 (CST)
 * Blood Type has a large role in asian cultures because they feel it influences personality, but... Doesn't Birthday put your account at risk? I guarantee this will never come to Global...--IsaacGS 20:26, 12 November 2007 (CST)
 * The Heart to show whether you're married or not is available in JMS, TWMS, THMS, HKMS and SEA. Need to add to the chart? --Fideltan 23:12, 12 November 2007 (CST)
 * KMS also has it. - Wkkim9292 05:47, 13 November 2007 (CST)

4th job is out in MapleSEA
http://forums.playpark.net/showthread.php?t=201324 for the patch info XreddevilsX 02:53, 19 November 2007 (CST) yup finally its Sea time to get 4th job next version to get 4th job is Gms and should be very very soon because i think we should get leafre in the christmas patch :D - Moshik1212 07:00, 19 November 2007 (CST)
 * We need to add a "Jobs" category to the quest page and start updating it with 4th job skill quests.--IsaacGS 02:37, 20 November 2007 (CST)

There are also fake Boss added maybe someone can update the monster list page? The fake boss monster is summon with the fireworks event. XreddevilsX 05:37, 20 November 2007 (CST)

ThaiMS v0.41 - November 21, 2007
http://maple.asiasoft.co.th/newsPreview.asp?contID=5794 Here's patch info... - Adding Free Market Entrance, Storage NPC, Fortune Teller NPC into Peace Temple. - New Floating Market VIP Hair Coupon. - Changing the Goblin Cave and Monkey Forest map layout in Peace Temple. - Can complete Thai Boss Quest upto 4 times a day. (was 2 in 0.40) - New 2 Minigames, Pachinko (The official name is Monster Game Arcade, but the players are still call Pachinko) and Tarot Cards. - New Thai traditional suit in Cash Shop. - New Pet "White Baby Monkey". -- PiPU 10:53, 19 November 2007 (CST)

Neat reference to us
http://insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=bbs12&no=232 seems we're known around the world now. ;) All the more reason to be more diligent in the accuracy of information placed here.--IsaacGS 00:03, 25 November 2007 (CST)

Did HKMS get Gachapon?
- Are those cards Gachapon tickets? BTW, they got 113 cash shop items last week. =P -- Hurricane 05:30, 27 November 2007 (CST)
 * One of them is a Gach ticket, the other two aren't. They might very well have it then.--IsaacGS 10:07, 27 November 2007 (CST)

TWMS and CMS are getting christmas town - another GMS-made town
- That's TWMS' flash.

- That's CMS' flash.

Look at CMS' christmas town, isn't the platform is just like the flash GMS had? the flash with the turkey is walking on?

I translated it with google translate and it says "Explore with us the secret of English village" - another GMS-made town for Christmas I guess. Isaac, make a thread at SW.net. =P -- Hurricane 03:43, 30 November 2007 (CST)

KMS and JMS Update
KMS Patch: Monster Book and Ariant Tournament (lvl 20-30) JMS Patch: 6 Area Bosses --Antikel 10:49, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Pets on the MapleStory/Monsters page?
It's an idea I've been toying with for a while now... Since we're keeping track of the pets anyway, why not put what pets are released/will be released on the MapleStory/Monsters page with the monsters from that patch? Wouldn't be much effort, and it would help to explain where things come from. Just thought I'd throw it out there. --IsaacGS 00:20, 2 December 2007 (CST)

ChinaMS Henesys Party Quest
This picture shows that ChinaMS has Tori, which means that it could have Henesys Party Quest. - Wkkim9292 15:13, 3 December 2007 (CST)
 * We had Tori before we got Henesys Party Quest. -- Hurricane 14:18, 4 December 2007 (CST)

Pirate!
Pirate Job already out at KMS! and I changed something.. :/

Oh and how do I change the notes? i want to add the maps to Southperry Expansion.

-TigerMan-

[HKMS] Beta v.03 Patch
Patch Notice:

聖誕快樂！MERRY CHRISTMAS！

各位勇士們！經過我地不斷既努力，今次既聖誕更新已經完成了. 伺服器將會提早在中午12:15分開放哦！等各位勇士能夠快D入去 楓之谷，感受下楓之谷既聖誕氣氛！

黎到聖誕，楓之谷有乜野玩︰

1.新增聖誕公園相關地圖，可由各村莊NPC露妮對話進入.

2.新增聖誕節、跨年活動相關任務、NPC、道具.

3.增加部分地圖出現怪物－聖誕綠水靈.

4.開放日本江戶村地圖 （昭和村暫不開放）

5.開放寵物系統（包括兩款寵物，兩款寵物裝備及兩款寵物服飾）

6.購物商場最新冬季貨品及聖誕節相關道具限時上架，新增超過50款裝備.

7.修正部分中文化及圖示.

8.修正公會留言版刊登公告及留言問題

快D一齊進入楓之谷，過一個普天同慶既白色聖誕啦！仲可以同其他玩家一齊佈置聖誕樹嫁！我都要立即出發去搵聖誕老人喇！BYE BYE！

若您的更新速度較慢或更新過程中出現錯誤訊息，建議您可先下載遊戲程式，使用手動更新方式安裝最新版楓之谷，提供您更快速、便捷 的安裝途徑.

Translated:

Christmas is here! This patch includes:

- New Happyvile maps, enter through Roony who is stationed at all towns.

- Addition of Christmas and New Year quests, NPC and equipment.

- Addition of X'mas Slime - spawning at selected maps

- Addition of Pet System (including 2 pets, 2 pet equipment and 2 pet costumes)

- Over 50 Cash Items added, including Christmas and Winter selections

- Correction of various bugged Chinese dialog and displays

- Fixes for reported bugs

Seems like HKMS is getting the new Happyville as well. :)--Scopelenz 04:51, 13 December 2007 (CST)

UnknownedRawks
99% of his edits were plain idiocy, so I did a bot rollback on all of his edits. If someone could check his contributions to verify any true information and add it back it, I would greatly appreciate it. -- 08:09, 13 December 2007 (CST)

HKMS Zipangu?
When did HKMS got Zipangu??--Fideltan 22:39, 17 December 2007 (CST)
 * Patch 0.03, look at update number 4:

Early completion of maintenance update Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

You warriors! After my efforts to keep both, this is Christmas update has been completed. Earlier in the server will be open noon 12:15 pm Oh! And so you can soon D-Braves to Maple Valley, feelings of both Maple Valley Christmas atmosphere!

Lebanon to Christmas, Maple Valley have乜野play:

1. New Christmas Park relevant maps can be exposed by the village NPC dialogue ni entered. 2. New Christmas, year-activities related tasks, NPC, props. 3. Increasing part of a map monster - Green Shuiling Christmas. 4. Opening up the Japanese Edo Village Map (Showa village not open) 5. Pets open systems (including two pets, two pet equipment and two pet costumes) 6. Shopping malls latest winter Christmas-related goods and erecting props limit, the additional over 50 of the equipment. 7. Amended part of the culture and icon. 8. Amendments to be published in the Society message boards and voice mail problems

Feng D together soon to enter the valley, we had a white Christmas celebration! SIN can be together with other players layout Christmas tree married! I should immediately proceed to搵Santa La Salle! BYE BYE!

If you update or slower appear in the process of updating the wrong message, that you can program to download games, the use of manual methods with the latest updated version of Maple Valley, offers you more rapid, and convenient way to install.

Maple Valley - mushroom mushroom on Baby --Hurricane 07:22, 18 December 2007 (CST)

shouldnt we be adding the new monsters to the newest monsters page?
4 more days 4th job until leafre and 4th job arrives gms and week until singapore arrives Ems... shouldnt we be adding the monsters to newest monsters page? dont tell me we shouldnt because we already know what is out and because its on data... every ver had monsters in data but we still added it to her so... =XMoshik1212 23:50, 10 January 2008 (CST)

I cant Edit in monster page
Why?

Edit: Hmm i saw in history that there is an protect of edits.... so hmm can you let me edit that page? becuase i am editing that more then half year and it's stupid that i cant edit that page...Ofir38 09:28, 16 January 2008 (CST)


 * Constant vandalism to the page forced us to lock the page down to sysops only. While we value your contributions to the page, the amount of hassle that we are going through to revert the vandalism is a pain and this was the best measure that we had against it.  What I would suggest is that you forward your proposed changes to Isaac, and perhaps he can edit your changes in for you.  I don't know if he's willing to do that, it's merely a suggestion.  Procyon (Talk) 08:57, 16 January 2008 (CST)

Oh... and for that sentence "While we value your contributions to the page" what you mean? And if it will be protect all the time it will be not updated as well(like the Israel wikipedia of Ms)Ofir38 09:28, 16 January 2008 (CST)
 * Two days ago, there was a lot of very heavy vandalism. I semi-protected the page (which means that users without accounts can't edit), but they just made accounts and continued to vandalize. So, I was forced to lock the page down even further. If you have a specific issue for now, then tell me what to change and I will change it. I'll probably put it down to semi-protected again in a week, and then in February back to normal. The 4th job buzz in GMS is likely the cause of the attacks so once it's over there probably won't be many problems.--IsaacGS 13:21, 16 January 2008 (CST)

Oh so change in Ems that they get only CBD area. Also you can give me the ability to change in monsters page? because im never vandalize and i wont to update there.Ofir38 13:46, 16 January 2008 (CST)


 * No, we cannot give you privileges; however, if you post the data here that you would like to suggest, Issac will review it for submission. -- 14:12, 16 January 2008 (CST)

Help
Can anyone edit the monster page? CMS 0.59 got Ariant at 22/1 already. --Fideltan 03:56, 24 January 2008 (CST)
 * It looks like it's already listed there: MapleStory/Monsters. -- 12:25, 24 January 2008 (CST)

Trading Cash System
Proof me that TaiwanMS got Trading Cash System. :] I dont think they have. and u forgot to tell about the diffrent between NLC Global and NLC Taiwan... so much changed!! O: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.250.33.224 (talk • contribs).
 * They've been testing it in the Test Server for at least two months now. I'm not sure if it is in the official server yet, but I'm 100% sure it's in the test server. And there's not that many differences in NLC in GMS versus TMS. O_o The map structure is slightly altered, but that's it. They have all the same areas in both.--IsaacGS 18:51, 24 January 2008 (CST)

HongKongMS got Taiwan in their Patch Version 0.04
http://www.gamania.com.hk/MapleStory/event/event20080124/event.html

This is the link which shows that HongKongMS is getting Taiwan's Ximending and Night Market in their Patch Version 0.04. Does anyone know if they are getting Taipei 101 as well?

http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1380351

If anyone would like to discuss this is Sleepywood, come into the link above - Wkkim9292 23:05, 24 January 2008 (CST)

Creating a 111-120 monster page?
Well, since there's starting to be a lot of monsters between 111 and 120, I think it might be better if we split that section off and created a new page, and then change 111-199 to 121-199. Another option might be to split that up, like 111-130, an then 131-199. The main reason I want to do this is because all of Zakum and Horned Tail's parts take up a lot of space, and it's sort of annoying when you're not interested in looking at either of those. Opinions?--IsaacGS 13:55, 25 January 2008 (CST)