User talk:Tedium

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Mythos
Hey, thanks for helping out with the Mythos guide. I haven't been actively updating it for a while because I've been busy with other games, but if you can think of anything I should look into, please tell me! Thanks, -- 02:23, 19 June 2008 (CDT)
 * For the gem page - do you think you could add the small image next to the big one (to show what it actually looks like in the inventory)? I like the big ones!  -- 05:08, 28 June 2008 (CDT)


 * I'm not sure if you could tell, but I'm getting the icons directly from the dat file and then I convert them to png. Unfortunately, after poking around the dat, I discovered many of the icons are not really clean (lots of extraneous pixels). So that leaves me with a few questions.
 * Should I continue uploading with a transparent background even though quite a few icons will have random pixels? The gems turned out okay, but the potions look pretty bad.
 * Should I upload them with a black background to give it an approximate look of being in the inventory? This will cover up the bad pixels.
 * What size should I use? For this image Image:Mythos Uniques Quickdraw.png I scaled the width and height by 50%. You can see the size difference in the revisions. Scaling the width and height of the icons by 50% should bring the size closer to what players see in game, but of course the size depends on how players customize their ui scale. Alternatively, I suppose I could upload the icons full size and just scale the image in wiki code like this [[Image:Mythos Gems Bloodstone.png|32px]].
 * Anyway, I would appreciate any comments you have. Thanks. Tedium 22:25, 28 June 2008 (CDT)
 * Nope I couldn't tell, but now it makes sense (btw how are you extracting them?).
 * I can try to clean up the images if you like, but the small ones like the bloodstone you put right there look perfect so I actually think that's the best way to go (simply upload a new version over the old).
 * Yes, transparent backgrounds ftw. If you have photoshop, making the extra border pixels transparent as well is easy as pie (which is why I want to know how to extract the file if you aren't able to shop them).
 * Black background = bad because of the contrasting white (its just blinding). For item images, larger will be better (even if you don't see it in game, the .dat image will have much more detail and thus be better for the site.  Again black backgrounds = bad but whatcha gonna do.)
 * For achievement icon images, get the largest possible (highest UI scale) for maximum detail (although you could probably get those from the .dat as well...).
 * Again, upload full sized transparent gem images and scale them for the best look.
 * Do not create new file names for images like gems and such - simply go to the image and click "Upload new version" to replace what is currently being used. -- 17:36, 29 June 2008 (CDT)


 * I used the UnHell program listed in the modding page to extract all the files out of the dat. To be safe, I used it on a copy of the dat in a separate location. data_mythos\icons contains all the inventory icons, data_mythos\uix contains all the skill icons. Then I used Gimp to open the files, but that requires a dds plugin. With Gimp, I can then save them as png. Then I used pngcrush to find the best compression and remove extra things like color space and gamma to bring the filesize down.


 * I'll go ahead and start uploading images. The skill and achievement icons may take a little longer to do because they are all contained in one file so I don't know which icons map to which achievement. Tedium 18:50, 29 June 2008 (CDT)
 * All of the high res ones on the achievement page are correct. Thanks for pointing that out, I never seriously read the modding page. -- 02:39, 30 June 2008 (CDT)