User talk:Procyon

I welcome any and all feedback here, so please post your thoughts. Thank you.

Archived discussions:
 * 2nd half of 2006
 * 1st half of 2007

Name
As in the star, the raccoon genus, or the release group? -- Prod 23:51, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
 * lol, the raccoon genus. If I can't use Procyon, I sometimes use Lotor, or Plotor. ^_^  Procyon 07:58, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
 * Hey, can you send me an email, I'd like to discuss something non-SW with you. (You can probably guess what it is from our previous IRC discussion :P) -- Prod (Talk) 12:54, 2 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the note
Thanks for the encouragement. And I know é is in the insert box, but when you have to type it a lot it's a pain to have to go down, click on it, go back up, type in a few words, and do it again. Thanks again, though. Myth 12:13, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the suggestion
Thanks for the suggestion, Procyon. (*deep breath*) that puts a load of my chest. I'll just stick it where it was then, as it seems the best place to put it to me. And I doubt anyone will have a problem. Thanks again for the encouragement. Myth 14:07, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Crystal
That's easy, I'm matching the Yellow policy (finally....). -- Prod (Talk) 20:10, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Re: correcting new authors
You're right, Procyon. I was too harsh on him. I wasn't trying to be, but I was just frustrated. Not that that excuses my comments. I also didn't know he was new (which is why I was harsher on him). I'll go apologize on his talk page. But I do believe that I should leave him a message so he knows what he's doing wrong. Thanks for the comment, though. Myth 00:26, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

Battle City
Whoa, that layout you did is cool ^_^. I don't think the stage headings are necessary though (35 headings seems a bit much). -- Prod (Talk) 10:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

Re: Correcting Echelon
Okay, several things: Myth 22:04, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
 * 1) I had no clue that Echelon was the owner of this site
 * 2) I was not trying to "tattle" on Echelon
 * 3) I was submitting my honest oppinion for the good of Strategy Wiki and was simply stating the rules of the site that were not being followed
 * 4) I really don't see what being the owner of the site has to do with breaking your own rules. If anything, it would be worse to post somehting on your own site that contradicts your own rules.
 * 5) I don't see how submitting my honest oppinion about the rules of the site being followed and such is "immature" or "Unprofessional"
 * 6) If I'm not a sysop, then why were you acting like I should know this stuff?


 * One more thing. I mentioned this on the Community Issues page for two reasons:


 * 1) I felt it was a community issue
 * 2) I was told in the past to tell someone else about something before I went and corrected them. That's exactly what I did and I got nailed for doing so... Myth 22:18, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I think you took my comments the wrong way, Procyon. I didn't want you to leave me alone or anything like that. I just honestly thought that I was being helpful. And as far as editting a talk page, I never said I was going to do anything like that. The whole point of this was a question regarding the link to a website on a talk page. And as far as where I got the idea that it was against the rules to link a site to your talk page, it might be for Wikipedia... Anyways, sorry if I sounded rude or confusing to you. Obviously it is fine to link a site to your talk page as long as it isn't major (and I guess if you're the owner it's fine). So thank you for the help and sorry again. I really don't know where this long thing got started in the first place. Myth 00:08, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

Big Brain Academy
Hi, I've just been updating the Big Brain Academy guide. I think it was me who did most of it under a different name a long while back but I can't remember. Anyway I've made it a bit better adding pictures and more navigation. It is a hard game to write about as there is very little in the game but I've tried to cover every single aspect of the game!

So, as I think you are a moderator/admin (I hope you are!), I was wonderng if you could give it a score. Personally, having owned the game, I can tell you that I've covered everything and would give it a 4 and a "completed"! But you may spot a few things wrong! Thanks. Poiuytre 12:55, 14 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Lol, actually I didn't know that anyone could "review" any guide by giving it a 4 (or 1, 2, 3)! Anyway I think that it's 3 Yes's to the questions. Like I said it is a very simple game and I do think my parents could pick up and play it after reading the guide! So I'm going to give it a four. Thanks again. Poiuytre 10:19, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

Pokemon RBY
ok Procyon, my exams are done and i can edit these pages better. what exactly do you want me to do?Halosonic 12:16, 15 June 2007 (CDT)

King2 here.
Yo 'sup Procyon. Thanks for taking the time to check my progress on the Tekken 3 Movelist. I want you to know that its not that I find the format daunting but its more like I dont get enough net time to perform major editing. Hence the help requests. I am from Trinidad, an island in the Caribbean, and my only access to free net is through my phone line using my neighbour's laptop.(I no longer have a cpu of my own as it was damaged. I intend to build one but I'm waiting for the finances). Its very hard to work on the net while there's the bugging in your mind of an emergency call. So basically I only get about half an hour for the max, about twice a week, with an average speed of 40 kbps. Anyways I know I will get the hang of the formatting when I analyze your examples and get enough exposure. (Don't mind the good english for internet talk as its my style. I hate most shorthand) Talk to you later, got to go. I only got 15 mins. By the way, the formatting style is great and we dont need to do anything anytime soon. Thanks. Laterz. --

Re: Pokemon mini games
Hi Garrett. I noticed that you added the list of Pokemon mini games to the Category. I wasn't sure if we were going to cover them or not. I have all of them (well, most of them as cartridges, even the Japanese ones, and the rest of them as ROMs). Do you have any of them? Maybe we could work together on some of the guides. Let me know :) Procyon (Talk) 09:20, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Since it's media-based that makes it a system, so I think it should definitely be covered here despite being so obscure. As for the games my experience with them is very limited, so I don't know that I could write all that much about them. I've started a rough guide for Pokémon Breeder, but since I don't understand Japanese (at all) it's based entirely on trial and error. I've played several of the games but, ironically, it's the ones that are only in Japanese that interest me the most. :P GarrettTalk 18:41, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Edit counter
How do you see how many edits you've done, anyway? Myth 16:37, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

Pokémon Gold and Silver help
Hey Proc, can you give me any better suggestions for cleaning up G/S/C. Mainly with the tables, my try is on this page, also, where do you get encounter rates from, mine are from bulbapedia and I'm a bit worried about accuracy. Thanks in advance.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 05:19, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

P.S I'm considering re-uploading all the Pokémon as .gifs to keep transparency because what I've done looks pretty bad in IE.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 05:20, 23 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Looks excellent, got any ideas about how to do the table trainers . I'm happy to transfer that to all the pages, sprites are Pokémon Gold and Silver/Types of Trainers, thanks so much.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 13:56, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Re: Pokémon Diamond and Pearl sparse????
Honestly Procyon, what you said was kind of rude, and I don't really see what my age or maturity has to do with asking someone to move the Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Guide out of the Sparse section! I really don't get what you mean. Am I immature just because I don't know how everything works on SW? I've only been here like one month, and I've progressed considerably since I started. Please explain what you mean. Myth 12:40, 23 June 2007 (CDT)


 * I read your message, and I want to say, first of all, sorry if I came off as having a tantrum or something like that. I was just expressing my opinion about the fact that it does not belong in the sparse section. Also, you said that this was not about my knowledge of SW, but but then said that I placed my comment on the wrong page. Doesn't that have something to do with my knowledge? And as far as saying you were trying to rattle me with your comment, that isn't very mature in itself. The goal if you see someone doing something wrong is to politely tell them that they are doing something you think is wrong. Telling them they are "immature" and that "You'd be insulted if I guessed your age" is just plain rude. I would have loved it if you had politely told me that I should have posted my comment elsewhere, and that I came off as wanting everything done my way. But unfortunately this had to happen, and I frankly don't see what's changed. Lastly, saying "several other users I have talked to agree with me" sounds basically like you're saying you're talking bad about me behind my back, and that a show of force is going to change my attitude. Myth 14:23, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Spell Checking
I saw your RB message on the Community Issues page and I thought I'd recommend upgrading to Firefox 2. It has a built in Spell check function which I find extremely useful when making message board posts and working on here. It's still pretty new so sometimes it doesn't recognize things as real words, but overall it's incredibly useful. I'd also like to say nice work on it as I was using that guide the other day.--IsaacGS 23:54, 24 June 2007 (CDT)

R/B Trivia
Hey Proc, I've heard that you can walk up the mountain next to item B on this map by walking up from the bottom of the mountain? I think I tried ages ago and it worked, is this notable?--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 01:41, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

P.S Can you please change the symbol for fishing on routes in IE (in the encounter rate boxes). All I get is squares, ✓ is the symbol (or one I can't tell) and I can't find out what it is.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 01:46, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

Thank You
Thanks Proc, for all the times you badgered me to become a better person. I'm gracious of your support for my request for adminship; you're like one of the SW gurus, I don't even know how to say thank you beyond thank you thank you thank you! --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:52, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Walkthrough
I put that note there for the main reason that there really was no content that could go there, as far as I can see. But that's just my opinion. And you're right, I should have just blanked the page and put a note saying that a walkthrough was coming soon or I could have put a "stub" template there as well. I'm sorry if I came off as being whiny or reluctant to do something myself, which was not my intention at all but it obviously came out that way to several people. Once again, I'm sorry for how I handled the situation and thank you very much for letting me know. Myth 23:38, 1 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Also Procyon, I'm sorry it took so long for me to respond to your comments and look over the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon/Walkthrough discussion page. I haven't been on my computer for a couple days, so I obviously couldn't explain my intent quickly enough. Myth 23:44, 1 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I understand that there are definitely not-so-fun parts of guides, but also a lot of fun ones. Obviously, getting other people to understand your point of view is not-so-fun. But actually doing it is definitely fun. Thanks for understanding me, Procyon and I hope to complete as much of the guide as I can! ^_^ Myth (talk) 11:46, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

Limiting Personal Edits
I totally understand what you mean, and I'll be happy to comply. BTW, did you mean 10 edits to my user page per day, or in general? Thanks. Myth (talk) 14:54, 2 July 2007 (CDT)


 * I'm getting better with the Edit Summary, but I still forget sometimes... But I definitely don't do 10 edits to 10 different sections ^_^ Myth (talk) 15:13, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

Pac-Man Fever
I'd recommend creating a template that goes on all the pac man fever pages rather than making a cat. The album goes slightly outside of our scope. I'd also recommend an archive ;). -- Prod (Talk) 21:41, 2 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Check the bottom of Category:Pac-Man Fever (album). It will need to be slightly customized due to the link in the header, though I'd prefer we made something from scratch rather than modifying the current template. -- Prod (Talk) 22:35, 2 July 2007 (CDT)

Bad images
Sorry about the pictures. if there is anything else i need to do just let me know. Campfish91 22:14, 3 July 2007 (CDT)

Pyro maniac
Hey Procyon. I think you were a bit harsh on Pyro maniac here — he's probably quite young, and is certainly contributing in good faith. Maybe you could've been more encouraging? Anyway, good job on blocking that vandal (second one in two days, meh :-, and get on IRC more! --DrBob (Talk) 08:41, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm just guessing his age from his writing style and enthusiasm. I know you were acting in good faith (as always), I just thought it would be better to be a little kinder. I'm not asking you to come on from work, but couldn't you come on IRC from home (or am I just not on IRC when you're at home? :-P ). --DrBob (Talk) 11:38, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Image:LoZLttP Hyrule Castle.png
How did you make that map? It's sweet! --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 13:11, 9 July 2007 (CDT)


 * Ah. Well I really like it.  For one, the base image is unpixelated so it looks like it's high quality ya know.  For some reason the colors strike me.  Then the border makes it look really good and yeah, the fairy circle you put on there is an awesome way to label things with symbols.  Shouldn't the sewer access hole be noted (or is that on another map for another section of the guide?)?  When you get around to it, you should do a map like this for the various Chris Houlihan paths people can take (I'm thinking one map, two different colored tracks like Tron to denote where to go).  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 13:34, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

Image:LoZLttP Secret Passage.png
I see you beat me to it, good job ;). However, the chest in the second room contains a blue rupee, not the lantern. Are you finding all of these images online or are you splicing screens together? -- 14:29, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, and if you want a larger, less fuzzy version, just let me know and I'll upload it (I still have the second room saved on my hard drive, just have to splice the first, plus I go for transparency around the border instead of the purple stuff). -- 14:31, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I only use 800x600 at work. Not everyone has as good of eyes as you.  I agree, I think 1024x768 at least sets the pages to an organizable state, but for people like my boss, they use smaller resolutions.  --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 14:46, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I've got the game for GBA and it's a rupee if you got the lamp from your house. Otherwise it's the lamp--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 14:49, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

Are there any other comments about that page, besides the lamp/rupee chest? Just want to get a feel for how you guys think it's coming along. I'm working on the Castle and Sewer maps now. That page is going to be long by the time it's done. Procyon (Talk) 14:52, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Yeah, can you note that the passage is one of the only ways to get into Chris Houlihan's room if you go down the hole fast enough. See this video--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 15:00, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Rocky, we all know about the CH room, there's already a page for it. Yeah it's lookin great so far Proc.  All the images you, Skizz baby and Garrett have been contributing are helping a lot.  Um, if you could remake the sewer image showing the lamp above the chest and use the little circle thing you did for the fairie in the hyrule castle map pic, I think it would look a lot better since it would denote the lamp being an identifier and not an actual part of the map... --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 15:09, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I've uploaded a larger version of the map here for you to modify/use if you want to. It will obviously need to be scaled down on the page itself, but it'll allow you to put the yellow circle in an unobtrusive location and such. The map is missing the Uncle, but that shouldn't really be a problem. Do whatever you want with it ^_^ -- 16:01, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

Third person for ALttP
I know you're basing this on the Nintendo Player's Guide (which I still think is debatable) but I should point out that its writing style is completely inappropriate. How-to material is expected to be written in the present tense and use the second person in order to relate directly to the reader's current needs; using the preterite tense and third person words for how-to material keeps readers clearly distanced from the author(s), and is arguably presumptuous. The Player's Guide is also riddled with minor errors (Hyrulian instead of Hyrulean, Link's Cottage instead of Link's House, etc.) which would have to be picked out. I'd rather you rewrite this in the manner of the Pokémon RBY guide, which is worded really well and perfectly fits the expectations of how-to material. If that's your intention that's great, I just wanted you to know what I think before you go very far down the current path. GarrettTalk 18:01, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

watermark?
Do you think we should put a watermark on our images? I found that using Image:Sw 1337.png at 35% opacity seems to work the best. -- 10:16, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * We are trying to make freely licenced guides so I think this may go against our message, anyway, one of the server overlords might be able to put into all of the images at once with a tweak to the software or something.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 10:21, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

imagemapping each room
yeah, that would be doable, it would just be a bit of a pain. If you want to see what the wikicode looks like for that, check out this page. Well, sort of similar. What I would do is make the room labels jump to that particular room and have the rest go to the larger map, so I would be using rect instead of poly. Unless, of course, you have a different idea of how it should all be linked. -- 10:25, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Half of my reply on this page, and half on my talk page... I need to get a bit more with it today. Anyways, you need to make the room numbers H4s or H5s instead of bolded text. The imagemapping won't jump to them otherwise. To prevent all that stuff from making the ToC too large, just do the following:  . That'll prevent anything less than an H3 from appearing on the ToC. -- 10:35, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * nvm, I guess you don't have a ToC :P. Regardless, now you know how to restrict them. Oh, and a big help would be if you could figure out the co-ordinates of the top-left and bottom-right points of those labels, as I need to know that in order to imagemap them. -- 10:38, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * They need to be headings because I was thinking of linking the labels to that section, so its kind of like an image ToC instead of a text ToC. You click on 1F and it takes you to the strategy for room 1F. However, I would like to know how large the boxes are generally (width and height in pixels) of the original image (the one on the image page), I can find out the coordinates by myself, but if I know how large they are, it saves me a lot of work. Here's how I was planning on doing the code:


 * 11:22, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * If you want, you can use this tool to get the co-ordinates.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png (Talk - Contributions) 11:33, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Thanks for the link Rocky ^_^! @Procyon: Ok, test it out with the first floor map here. I got Dan to update our extension so it has more functionality (for example, it now works with sections and external links). -- 13:45, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I couldn't find what the object that controls the edit tabs was called (I'm guessing it's in a php file, not a css file), so I created a workaround--Anchor. I've implemented it in the Eastern Palace page, so what do you think of it? -- 18:27, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I've located the class that controls the edit section tabs (it's called "editsection", ain't that creative :P), and have made a bit of css that will hide them when enclosed in a span (css viewable here). Don't know what we could use it for anymore, but it's there just in case. If you put it into your css, check out the sandbox to see it in action. -- 16:29, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Exed Exes
Well, I hope I didn't embarrass you too much with my corrections; of course that was not my intention. I think it is actually possible to make round-by-round strategy for EE like, shoot this to get this, watch out for these guys coming from the sides, etc. (Did you break 1 million yet? I am stuck at around 900,000.)  I would like to know, what are your sources for the names? Did you go from the Famicom manual? The names used in Capcom Classics Collection are somewhat different. As for your other question, I would have to say I am fairly knowledgeable about Ghosts 'n' Goblins, having just finished both loops on one life. (I did take some hits though.) Maybe someday I will make a guide for it. That game is not as random as a lot of people think! doctorx0079 01:56, 20 July 2007 (EDT)