User talk:Bmuig

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Nice job
Hi Bmuig. I have to say, I was pretty impressed with your work on the AOF move list. You made a custom template, but you kept it in the style of the other move lists, so I think it worked really well. The individual character pages need to be established, but I can help you out with that. Are you interested in working on any other move lists? Obviously, we're lacking in the Neo Geo department at the moment. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Procyon (Talk) 11:19, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
 * I think the word you were looking for is thesis? What and where are you studying?  For your first wikipage, you did an amazing job.  Most people who have made a lot of wiki pages still have trouble figuring out how to set up templates like that, so it's very impressive.  Don't worry about time, this site isn't going anywhere, it will still be here when you finish more important work.  It's always fun to use this site as a way to take a break from more serious work :)  I don't have any suggestions for your page, you did it largely the way I would have.  We just have to make the respective character pages, and I've been kind of lazy about maintaining that.  But again, there's no rush.  Procyon (Talk) 14:05, 9 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Hi Bmuig. Once again, an outstanding job.  The sort order thing is a very bad system that I was using to keep Category:Move lists sorted properly.  For AOF (which I just changed to A0SAOF), it breaks down like so:


 * A: To get AOF listed under the As
 * 0: To get AOF listed above the character pages,
 * S: The S is for SNK (C for Capcom, M for Midway, and N for Namco)
 * AOF: The abbreviation of the game.
 * Like I said, not a great system, but it works. I'm going to create the character pages for you right now. Procyon (Talk) 15:53, 13 September 2007 (CDT)

Future games
Hi Bmuig. I know that you had plans for working on Art of Fighting 3, but I was hoping that you could take a look at Category:Wii_Virtual_Console and make whatever games are listed there as a priority as well, if you are interested in working on them. Thanks very much! Procyon (Talk) 09:45, 15 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Awesome, you did a terrific job on Fatal Fury :) I don't know if you notice, but I have bee establishing the character pages for you, such as Move Lists/SNK/Andy, Move Lists/SNK/Joe, and Move Lists/SNK/Terry.  You are terrific at making these lists!  Procyon (Talk) 19:41, 15 September 2007 (CDT)

Responses

 * 1) You are free to change the completion stage of any guide that you work on, any time that you wish.  That's part of our be bold motto.  In the Header Nav for the front page, find the num=0 and change it to a 1 (or even a 2 if you like).  1 is for more than a stub, but not much.  2 is for a good amount of critical information filled in (like the move lists).  3 is for nearly complete and 4 is for very thorough.
 * 2) You are correct about the problem of the move lists.  All of the information does need to be created, and updated, and maintained twice.  There is a way around it, but it's actually more work than the way we do it now.  We would have to create Templates for every single character's moves in every single game.  Then the pages would just be lists of templates.  That's more of a resource drain on the database, so we settle for having to update two pages.  It's a bit unfortunate, but better than the alternative.
 * 3) I am currently out of the industry, but I did do cursory Artificial Intelligence when working at several studios.  I would be happy to help you as much as I can.  My knowledge of AI is probably not as in-depth as yours and I primarily only developed finite state machines.  But feel free to ask me anything that you would like, and I will do my best to answer you :)  Procyon (Talk) 18:04, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

Small optional request
Hi Bmuig. Once again, fabulous job with AOF3, and I'm delighted to see that you are working on KOF94 now. I had a request for you, and it's completely optional, you don't have to bother if you don't want to. But I noticed that your style does not include the use of which puts a  between the moves and the buttons. I usually use it as the very last part of the motion, before any of the buttons are mentioned. A lot of the other move lists use this, but you're not required to. I was just hoping that you would consider using it in the future. Thanks very much, and keep up the amazing work.

P.S. Prod and I are considering a big change to the way that the Move Lists are set up. It would address the problem that you pointed out about having to make changes to each list twice. It won't affect any of the work you are doing now, and will only slightly change the way you contribute moves in the future. I just wanted to let you know, and will tell you when the change takes place. Thanks!


 * You made a very good point about the plus. Maybe I should consider removing it from my lists?  I don't know...  I guess the thing that I liked about it was how it helped line up the lists visually.  I'll give it some thought.  Please feel free to edit and improve Template:cade.  It shouldn't be protected.  Let me know if you need any help.  Procyon (Talk) 20:01, 27 September 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, before you edit cade, please make sure that you have intimate knowledge of ParserFunctions, in particular #switch, as cade relies on it to work. If you need any help with this or would prefer someone else to add them in just in case, let either me or Procyon know and we'll help you/put it in for you. Thanks! -- 21:37, 27 September 2007 (CDT)


 * Looking at the various movelists the plus really helps for visual organization (creating a visual line). Also, even though someone might be confused that + doesn't determine the difference between sequential and simultaneus pressing, it's basically a given that its simultaneus to an extent (you press the button as you complete the motion, not AFTER, unless some game actually has that).  If there is a sequential delay we just say "Actions then... action."  See Move Lists/Capcom/CVS2 for examples.  -- 01:10, 28 September 2007 (CDT)
 * These aren't actually arcade buttons though are they? These images should go under their own template (possibly NeoGeo) rather than pushing them into cade.  If they are arcade games, then shouldn't they be using the already set up cade with the current images and not additional NeoGeo images? -- Prod (Talk) 07:43, 28 September 2007 (CDT)