Talk:Final Fantasy IV

Types
There's a hell of a lot of cleanup needed here. :-( --DrBob (Talk) 10:10, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


 * How about some content first, eh?--Chrono Warrior 3 17:35, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


 * No kidding. We're looking at 2-3 sentences of info here. Gerrec 17:41, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


 * Well, I am starting it from scratch so it will take some time to get content. I am working on the EasyType Version (USA FF2), so that is the only part that will have content for now.  biggianthead2000 22:36, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


 * That's fine by all of us. Keep up the work and thanks. I have never really gotten a chance to play FFIV that much, but I do plan on buying it for the GBA. --Chrono Warrior 3 21:15, 18 June 2006 (PDT)


 * By "lots of cleanup needed" I mean the fact that it isn't subpaged. The titles "EasyType" and "HardType" are also suspect, although I could be wrong here and they could be the actual names used by the company. --DrBob (Talk) 09:09, 19 June 2006 (PDT)

I agree about the names EasyType and HardType. All I know is that is what it they are commonly known as on the internet. Basically the EasyType is the US version and the HardType is the Japanese version, but it is not that simple because I believe the easy version was also released in Japan. So I am open to any suggestions on how to correct this. biggianthead2000 20:36, 19 June 2006 (PDT)


 * Perhaps just FFIV US and FFIV JP? Then just make a good explanation on the main page so people will definitly not pick the wrong one and then you're good. -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 19:43, 19 June 2006 (PDT)


 * That may be better. However, I think FFII US and FFIV JP would be more appropriate since there really is not a FFIV US.

biggianthead2000 20:36, 19 June 2006 (PDT)
 * Didn't realize, then yes, that is what I suggest. And perhaps having Final Fantasy II redirect here would be a good option?
 * There is also a Final Fantasy II Japan so having it redirect here is a bad idea. Final Fantasy II US for the SNES was actually Japan's Final Fantasy IV.  However, Japan's Final Fantasy II was released in the US under Origins and Dawn of Souls.  Japanese FFIV was then released again in the US on the PS under FF Chronicles.  In other words, the best bet would be to use the Japanese names and not US names.  I don't personally know the difference between Easy and Hard types, but I'd stick with Japanese names for the games.--Dukeruckley 06:41, 20 June 2006 (PDT)

Refering to one as "US" and one as "Japan" doesn't work any more since FF Collection included the so-called FFIV HardType, so now both editions have been released in both regions. The real question is do we need to have two different guides. They games are not fundamentally different, only in difficulty of the monsters and a few other minor details. As such, all we need is to split the enemies page into /Enemies (EasyType) and /Enemies (HardType) (or whatever we refer to the different versions as. Why don't we just move Final Fantasy II US to this page? It would be a lot easier to maintain than having two guides with nearly identical information. Koweja 10:21, 18 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Agreed. --DrBob (Talk) 11:01, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

Discussion from Talk:Final Fantasy II US
I don't think this should be merged with Final Fantasy IV, because the games are slightly different. At some point after I complete the FF2 US guide, I will start working on the FFIV guide (mostly copy and pasting, but some things will have to be different). --Biggianthead2000 23:51, 24 November 2006 (CST)
 * What exactly is the difference between II and IV? If it's just a few minor differences, that can be mentioned when it happens.  If the games are completely different, then keep them separate. -- Prod (Talk) 17:46, 25 November 2006 (CST)
 * Having played both, I would have to argue that the differences between the two games, at least from a walkthrough perspective, are not so incredible that the guides can't be merged. Yes the US version has fewer abilities and items, but the plot and steps are roughly 95% identicle.  I vote for the merge.  Procyon 00:11, 26 November 2006 (CST)
 * Maybe a merge is the best. Perhaps the best way to deal with it is for me to create another page that addresses the differences between FF2 US and FF4 Japan within the guide already created.  I guess all the pages should be transferred over to Final Fantasy IV, with the Final Fantasy II page giving a link to Final Fantasy IV explaining what is going on.  I have no idea how this would be done so that will have to be up to someone with more knowledge than I.--Biggianthead2000 00:44, 26 November 2006 (CST)
 * I'll take care of it. Just to confirm, this will be moved under Final Fantasy IV since that's the real version behind the game. Final Fantasy II already has a disambig link to it anywayz.  -- Prod (Talk)
 * That's the plan. Should Final Fantasy II US be a redirect since it is a fairly common alternative name for the game, or just delete it entirely?Koweja 22:11, 28 November 2006 (CST)

Cleanup
I don't understand. What needs to be cleaned up here? 00:13, 1 January 2007 (CST)