User talk:BrownDerby

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Image categorisation
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New Move list format
I'm trying to switch the move lists to use an easier format for arranging the pages which reduces the amount of transcluding pages in multiple places. Please create all the move lists on the /Moves page, and then transclude to Character pages from there. This avoids all the hidden character specific pages that appear everywhere, and all pages can be linked from the Table of Contents. -- Prod (talk) 23:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * How do you transclude from a /Moves page? I saw there was a Movelist template but I couldn't figure it out. -BrownDerby (talk) 23:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've done all the updates to SNK Gals Fighters. It's easiest when there's only one game in the "series".  When you have multiple games it gets complicated.  I've got a to-do list for all the old games in the previous format that i'm slowly working through, so I'll take care of all of those.  I just want to direct you for new guides, as you seem to be on a roll :). -- Prod (talk) 23:49, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to see you getting into the wiki editing so well, and merging the Samurai Shodown 2 guide. Unfortunately, when merging guides, we have to be careful to make sure all editors are still attributed based on the license we follows (see my recent edits).  For now I'd suggest that if you're adding to an existing guide, follow whatever standard is already used, and let me take care of the format migration.  However, if this is a task that interests you, come on Discord and I can show you a few ways to maybe make the process easier. This series of games is actually a few entries down my list since it has almost 150 pages to update. -- Prod (talk) 05:05, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Character pages
The Street Fighter games have a lot of back story spanning multiple games, so individual character pages make more sense there. Some of these other games probably don't have as much content for each character, so it may be easier to just have one /Characters page which lists all the characters stories together. -- Prod (talk) 17:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Feel free to add this to your user page instead.  Pro cyon  21:37, 26 July 2019 (UTC) A little thank you… For For all the hard work you've done adding fighting game moves!. ,  Pro cyon  21:37, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Discord Chat
I saw you had some other changes to make. I'm regularly on discord if you need more help with anything. -- Prod (talk) 16:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Walkthrough vs Getting Started pages
Before you power through too many guides, I've actually been thinking of switching the way we handle the GS/Walkthrough pages. How to Play to me sounds like it would fit fine under "Getting Started". Where as walkthrough is supposed to cover any story mode. I haven't really gotten anywhere discussing with the other Move Lists editors, but was wondering what you thought. -- Prod (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The story mode in these games is usually just fight some random characters and then the boss, so you don't really need a walkthrough for them. But on every page of every game there are the walkthrough links, so I think it's fine to put the "how to play" stuff there. -BrownDerby (talk) 22:30, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Even the "How to Play" stuff is pretty basic, so really just having the Moves list linked via the Custom Nav seems like the main benefit. -- Prod (talk) 00:02, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the ToC in the sidebar has the "How To Play" link right at the top, so what's in the header doesn't really matter. -- Prod (talk) 16:18, 18 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I just think it's fine how it is now. I don't see the benefit of changing it, and then all these games would have no walkthrough. -BrownDerby (talk) 18:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I've posted here to get some feedback from more people. -- Prod (talk) 14:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Character pages for fighting games
I have a bot that will take care of setting up the basic structure of the character pages. I don't like having it create empty character pages, so I haven't let it create them for guides which only have the moves list and nothing else. If there's a guide you feel like writing character pages for, please let me know and I can have it set up the structure for all those pages so the only thing that would be needed is description. -- Prod (talk) 22:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I probably won't add much but you could do The King of Fighters NESTS Collection, The King of Fighters XIV and Street Fighter X Tekken. -BrownDerby (talk) 06:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Prod (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Why do some of the characters have different page names than their link names? When looking at some videos, some games showed short names in some places and long in others. Would it be possible to have the same (short) name used for their links and for the pages? -- Prod (talk) 01:52, 18 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Which ones are you talking about specifically? I try to go by whatever they use on character select screens or under lifebars or whatever and sometimes that might be the last name instead of the first. -BrownDerby (talk) 02:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I was thinking pages like Fatal Fury/Table of Contents linking to Fatal Fury/Geese. However, checking the histories, I realized you may not have worked on the guides which have names like that. -- Prod (talk) 02:13, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Samurai Shodown
Can you please update these links as well? Special:WhatLinksHere/Samurai Shodown/Shiro and Special:WhatLinksHere/Samurai Shodown/Rashoujin. -- Prod (talk) 19:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Done, this one too: Special:WhatLinksHere/Samurai_Shodown!/Shiro. -BrownDerby (talk) 20:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Can you please check the completion stages for the games in Samurai Shodown NeoGeo Collection? Many of them seem to have more than just cs1 content. -- Prod (talk) 19:38, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

KOF Maximum Impact Regulation A/Moves
I tried adding what characters I could find, but I think it's still missing some. -- Prod (talk) 21:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I added the rest, it's just alternate versions for three of them. -BrownDerby (talk) 21:27, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

RCR
The content from both the games seems to match, just different prices. Would it make sense to include all the data with updated headings in a single table instead of separate sections? -- Prod (talk) 20:56, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * A lot of the item names are different too, and there was at least one where there was an extra item. I think if I put it all in one table it'd be too much. -BrownDerby (talk) 21:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it might be worth a try. It just seems like a lot of space taken up for a limited amount of info. You could do something like:

-- Prod (talk) 23:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Namco series categories
Regarding your addition of Category:Namco to the categories of selected series they created on Friday, I feel I should point out those of some others you may also wish to add it to, if they do not have it already:, , , , , (to give the "Druaga" series its real name), , , , , , ,  (which was, at one time, their longest-running series next to Pac-Man in Japan, especially after they had acquired the license to use the Central and Pacific Leagues' teams in 1992), , , , , , , , , , ,  (Sega also at one time acquired the license to use the J-League's teams for one of their own soccer games, The J.League 1994), , , the s,  &. Namcorules (talk) 11:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for adding the Namco category to the ones for most of the series I mentioned above, especially as I said you did not have to; however, I have added it to those you missed myself so as not to give you any more extra work. Namcorules (talk) 18:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

The King of Fighters '99/Moves
When updating the move lists on this page, I found 2 pages which were orphaned.
 * The King of Fighters '99/Krizalid 1
 * The King of Fighters '99/Krizalid 2

From what I can tell, Krizalid 2 was converted to the new format (missing a few moves), and added to the moves page. But Krizalid 1 was discarded. Are you able to convert Krizalid 1 to the new format to add it as well? -- Prod (talk) 04:19, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Template:Input List Header
If you're already aware of this feature, then ignore this message. This template includes the game name so that it can pass it on to Input List Type, which uses the game name to add custom colouring from Game/Custom Input. If this custom colouring is important (the custom input page exists), you may want to keep the game name in place in the header. Here's the current list of games that use the feature for reference. -- Prod (talk) 06:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fatal Fury: First Contact/Custom Input
 * Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition/Custom Input
 * Garou: Mark of the Wolves/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury 2: The Newcomer/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury 2: The Newcomers/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury Special/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury Special: Dominated Mind/Custom Input
 * Real Bout Fatal Fury Special (Game Boy)/Custom Input
 * The King of Fighters XII/Custom Input

KOF 98 UM changes
Hi BrownDerby. First, thanks as always for your continued excellent work with the fighting game moves lists. I truly appreciate the effort and attention to detail that you put into it. Second, thank you for fixing the edit errors made by RPC Gaming. I am concerned because he removed two whole moves from the list which I believe were legitimate moves. One desperation move for Chin which is more of a taunt than an attack (although it may have had the wrong motion listed) and a chained special move for Joe. Can you confirm whether those moves should have been removed or not? I suspect they should not have. Thanks very much!  Pro cyon  00:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I re-added Chin's move with the correct command but I think they were right about Joe's one, it's not in the PS2 or Windows versions. -BrownDerby (talk) 04:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for checking.  Pro cyon  01:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Animal Crossing
Please check out this tweet. https://twitter.com/StrategyWiki/status/1253826674845790215. -- Prod (talk) 23:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Super Game Boy
I'm not fully sure how to treat that. Didn't it support every Game Boy game? I feel every category should be included in the infobox somehow, but it seems redundant to show it along with Game Boy. What are your thoughts? -- Prod (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Some games were enhanced for SGB with extra colors/borders or multiplayer, and there were some backwards-compatible Game Boy Color games that had SGB support, so I was just going to add those, but it did support every Game Boy game so now I don't know. -BrownDerby (talk) 20:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. Wikipedia says there are a lot of games that fall under this (528). I guess we can just add it under the "|systems" parameter. -- Prod (talk) 20:55, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm completely in favor of identifying SGB enhanced games with this category.  Pro  cyon  20:47, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Rollbacker permissions
I've given you the rollbacker permissions. It automatically marks your edits as patrolled. -- Prod (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Staff_lounge/2020/April
This discussion got archived, but I think the general direction is that they should be renamed. What would the new names be? -- Prod (talk) 01:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Downtown Special: Kunio-kun no Jidaigeki da yo Zenin Shūgō! to Downtown Special: Kunio-kun no Jidaigeki da yo Zenin Shuugou!
 * Shodai Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun to Shodai Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun
 * Dragon Ball: Dragon Daihikyō to Dragon Ball: Dragon Daihikyou
 * Dragon Ball Z: Buyū Retsuden to Dragon Ball Z: Buyuu Retsuden
 * Dragon Ball Z: Goku Hishōden to Dragon Ball Z: Goku Hishouden
 * Fūrai no Shiren GB: Tsukikage-mura no Kaibutsu to Fuurai no Shiren GB: Tsukikage-mura no Kaibutsu
 * 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de to 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de
 * Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest: Shōgeki no Shippo Dan to Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest: Shougeki no Shippo Dan
 * Kurohyō: Ryū ga Gotoku Shinshō to Kurohyou: Ryu ga Gotoku Shinshou (maybe more accurate as "Ryuu" but seems to be officially "Ryu", like Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio)
 * Yakuza Ishin to Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin! (never got a western release as Yakuza)
 * Yakuza Kenzan to Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan!
 * -BrownDerby (talk) 16:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I am in support of all of these changes. I think the general policy is that every games' titles should be able to be typed on a standard keyboard without having to rely on special ASCII or unicode characters.   Pro  cyon  01:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've completed most of the moves, can you please update Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer, Yakuza and Category:Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer? -- Prod (talk) 00:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Redirects
I saw the new redirects you created for alternate names. Can you also categorize those by the major differences? Details are here. -- Prod (talk) 20:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Racing
I'm thinking of switching the racing name to be for the genre. One game blocking the ease of use of the genre seems sub optimal. -- Prod (talk) 18:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've started the discussion here. -- Prod (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Sailor Moon
Thanks for fixing the macrons, I wasn't sure of the correct way to update those. For the template, I sorted by approximate release, since I haven't seen the show and wasn't sure if the series (R/S/SuperS) was a relevant organization. Do you think it needs to be reorganized? The names I got from the wikipedia page. Do they seem correct? -- Prod (talk) 21:45, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't know them too well but it seems correct. -BrownDerby (talk) 22:16, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Control Selector
Unfortunately, my bot can't properly handle all the Arcana Hearts character pages because of the control selector. If you're updating those pages, can you please move the template above the Moves heading? -- Prod (talk) 22:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Ports, remasters, and re-releases
Can you please weigh in on Staff lounge? -- Prod (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've added an example, and a major incentive behind setting this up is improving our interlinking with PCGW. As you know, many of them are ports with new names, and I'd like to show the differences between the versions without needing separate pages for each. Could you please provide your thoughts on the updates I've posted? -- Prod (talk) 19:02, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome
Is Makai Kingdom: Reclaimed and Rebound a re-release? I saw you link it on pcgw, but I couldn't find a clear answer on this. And is there an independent release, or is it only part of Vol 2? -- Prod (talk) 23:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


 * It's a re-release. I think on Switch it's part of a compilation but on Steam it's separate. -BrownDerby (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The original came out in 2005, and it looks like the 2011 psp release (Phantom Kingdom Portable) added a new mode, which suggests it should have a separate main page. The steam page also mentions Petta mode, so I think this may be a re-release of that one. Does that sound correct? -- Prod (talk) 14:16, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. -BrownDerby (talk) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

A very optional suggestion
When filling out File, if have a listed type (such as type=screenshot or type=boxart), you do not actually need to write license=fairuse. It will automatically be filled in due to filling out type. It does not really matter either way, but thought it might be helpful if it saves you time. Trig - 18:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

3D Classics/Sega Ages
Thanks for adding the release details for these. Can you please also add the |series2/3 entries like on Sonic the Hedgehog as well? -- Prod (talk) 19:52, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Arcade Archives Trophies
Should be added to the template directly? -- Prod (talk) 15:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I added it. Is category:templates correct or should it be like guide-specific templates or another one? -BrownDerby (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it's good as is. Very interesting that they're all so similar. -- Prod (talk) 18:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Wheredja Get This
File:13_Sentinels_Aegis_Rim_box.jpg can't find a decent source for this and thought you would know where you got it personally. Trig - 17:13, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

"Click here"
I noticed you hitting all the fighting game pages, and it's probably a bit late now, but it's generally recommended to avoid Click here type links. Wikipedia also recommends against it. This is something ReplaceText would actually be really good for as your additions have been very consistent. -- Prod (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll keep using it for now, you can replace them all later. -BrownDerby (talk) 04:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * How about something like: Andy has appeared in other fighting games. -- Prod (talk) 04:51, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Let me know once you're done and I'll run the replace. Also, are there any guides still pending for the movelist conversion, apart from Dissidia: Final Fantasy?-- Prod (talk) 03:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Fist of the North Star (arcade). -BrownDerby (talk) 23:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Jojo's seems to have the same moves for all games, so I'm not sure how we'd do a moves page for that. It'd be redundant to create the same page for each of the 3 games. I'd be tempted to do Fist the other way, transclude the moves onto a /Moves page instead of what I've done in all the other guides. -- Prod (talk) 22:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)