User talk:Ofir38

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0-172 18:08, 31 December 2006 (CST)

New Leaf City info
He asked one of the forum admins on the Nexon forums. The link is here: http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums/2/72187/ShowThread.aspx I don't know if you can view it. He also wasn't very specific as to what will be revealed on friday, but something.--IsaacGS 00:50, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Images that are uploaded here need a specific format. The name should start with an abbreviation for the game (In this case, MS), and then followed by a short title of what it is. Sometimes they fall into another category, so if you were to upload a picture of a monster, then the file name would need to be "MS Monster _____.png". Your image is entitled "new monsters" and obviously you can see that's not right. I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to try my new powers and rename yours to the proper one. --IsaacGS 14:03, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Ok... i was update the info of the jungle area and ill update it soon. -Ofir38
 * Also, the Fraps counter is something I'd like to discourage, it looks ugly and doesn't really fit in. If you plan on taking many screen-shots (there shouldn't be a need for most of them, there's a sufficient number at the moment.) then just use the ingame feature. --IsaacGS 14:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
 * When you are replying to someone elses' message that was left on your talk page, you should respond on their talk page as it's easier for them to find. --IsaacGS 14:08, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

So i can upload i new 1 without the fraps thing..
 * That would be preferable, yes. You don't need to give it a new name though. Use the "Upload a new version of this file." option on this page to preserve the correct file name. Again, when you are replying to a message I have left you, make your responses on my talk page.--IsaacGS 14:23, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

shit i just saw Ur message now.... well i edited my screen and remove the fraps thing i named there copy because i didn't know u can save on same name.. well i go to sleep cya tomarow
 * From now on, save the same name. Also, sign your comments with ~ so that we can tell who said it.--IsaacGS 14:32, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

ok listen dont change the picture u was added the old picture i opsted now the picture without the fraps thing,ill try to find the siam symbol tomarow because u dont have it right now.--Ofir38 15:39, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
 * You can't find the missing Map Icon for Peace Temple (That's the name, not Siam.) becuase it doesn't exist yet. That town has still not been patched in.IsaacGS 15:48, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

Listen about the jungle i think there will be another town from that way because the mayor in NLC said a "lost town that didn't found yet" so u think to rote that or keep it like now?--Ofir38 16:12, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Leave it alone, we don't know for a fact anything about it. Also please try to use proper grammar and spelling in your edits. IsaacGS 16:29, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

So tell me how to write I'm new writing in the most famous article ^^ and to add the fake bosses to the new monsters list? --Ofir38 16:34, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well first off, If you are not using Firefox 2.0, I would recommend that you get it, as it has a built in spell checker. Avoid using shorthand like "u" in articles, and refer to areas by their full name (Ludibrium instead of Ludi). As for Fake Bosses, add them to the New Monsters page if you would like, I'll check it over to make sure you're doing it right. --IsaacGS 17:01, 29 July 2007 (CDT)

OK but first i have ie7 with add one IeSpell that check my English if it's right. hmmm about the fake they like same monsters so pot the regaler boss monsters? --Ofir38 01:17, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
 * You can use the same pictures, but don't link it to the regular ones as they have very different stats.IsaacGS 15:15, 30 July 2007 (CDT)

they have very diff status real papa piexe have 100k of hp and the fake have 5k...he att 1.3K of dmg and the fake down 1. so we need to do the fake catgory event monsters...--Ofir38 02:48, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I would say put them on the Event monsters page. --IsaacGS 12:03, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

kk so i use the keep the real pictures pf them put how i make table of them in the page and where i find they stats? oh and in amoria PQ page i update there that stage 5 was been deleted in patch 0.40--Ofir38 15:25, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

Image naming
I see you've been uploading a few images lately. When doing so, could you please make sure to name them properly? The image policy is viewable here, and contains all the information you'll need to name future uploads. -- 09:59, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Also, when putting the extension (like .png) on images, make sure that the images are actually in that format. For example, all of the uploads today that you did had the .png in the name, but were really .gif. Please make sure to name them properly in the future. Thank you. -- 14:05, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

The names Are right =D. but i need to know the system of wikipedia because in other sites i just click and here i need to open many things. well i hope ill be good editor in the near future^^. --Ofir38 14:15, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

New Monster/Monster Info
I believe (and Isaac can answer this better) that all of the data posted here is extracted from the data.wz file; meaning it's not from within the game but from the code within it. -- 15:08, 10 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Yep. Though some of it an be determined from ingame (For example, you could pin down the KB value of a weak monster relatively easily, and EXP is obvious from in game.), the vast majority of the data is obtained from the client itself. So, in order to get the data for new monsters, we need to get it from that version's client files.--IsaacGS 15:17, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Wait,so you mean that you find the data files of monster from the game or from progrem that open WZ files?
 * Monster data is in file mob.wz, item data in file character.wz, etc. Vigilium 05:24, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

But i cant open that files smart 1...-_- i can open just monsters,sound and NPC. --Ofir38 05:26, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The people that extract the data are using scripts to crack the file and extract it. About your images not getting credit: just go to the image page, click edit, then say "Originally uploaded by  and renamed by IsaacGS." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notmyhandle (talk • contribs).
 * I checked on Horntail from JMS, and the stats are the same as the ones we have. I can't check the stats from KMS, but I would think they're the same. There's no real way to know, though, until that change reaches JMS or another version, assuming it hasn't been changed already.--IsaacGS 15:12, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
 * About the names of the images, I re-uploaded them because for one, most of them needed renaming to a proper name, and for two, you had them in the wrong format. Just because you call it "MS Monster Grandpa Red Snail.png" doesn't magically change it into a PNG file. You must load it into an image converter program to do that. And it's not like having them as GIFs is a bad thing necessarily, it's just that when an image is extracted from the data of the game, it comes out as a PNG, so most of the files here are already in that format. I renamed them to (more) correct names, and converted them all to PNG from GIF. It's not like there's a lot of glory in having uploaded the image though, so I don't see what the big deal was. o-o --IsaacGS 15:16, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

XD well about the horntail thing... In the start no one cannot beat horntail and KMS didnt want horntail will be unbeatble monster so they down the Hp monster to half same as the MP and now the dispell work that who close to him... i saw in thier website that they was update him. --Ofir38 15:29, 12 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Well yeah, probably, but I can't extract the data from KoreaMS for a couple reasons, so I can't know what was changed until it reaches another version.--IsaacGS 16:00, 12 August 2007 (CDT)

Ok ill notice you when it will be in other maple story version,now it's on tesipa only ><. and about the picture thing...i was able to change the formet of the picture by using photoshop. but it's was take alot of time and if i was doing that when i was wanted to upload my pictures so someone else can do it. --Ofir38 01:13, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Not sure what you mean... Can you rephrase it? It's not a race to upload stuff first...--IsaacGS 01:17, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

You know what? never mind...XD But i renember all that info was in wikipedia and in 1 page i saw all monster list and it was kinda snafu..--Ofir38 01:30, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I reverted the edits because this Tomato monster is for an Event, and thus belongs in the events list. It doesn't belong in the regular list, so I simply took it out. It's not a problem.--IsaacGS 14:26, 14 August 2007 (CDT)

But from where you know the Hp of this mob? it's dont event patched 0_o--Ofir38 14:33, 14 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The Manual Patch was up for download on the European FTP server already. Some people have already patched their client up to the next version and extracted the data for it out.--IsaacGS 15:36, 14 August 2007 (CDT)

So you can give me the FTP of mapleeurope?--Ofir38 01:20, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Don't ask me, I didn't do it. IsaacGS 14:16, 15 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Do you mean the charts? They are templates that are linked to that page from another location. All of the templates are linked (for reference) on Talk:MapleStory. Click the chart you want and edit the info in, but before you change anything be prepared to show proof should your changes be challenged.--IsaacGS 11:31, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

Not that... i mean the plaque with the Yes And No...--Ofir38 11:58, 17 August 2007 (CDT) so i cant edit it...0_o
 * I have no idea what you're talking about then...

About MSEA's update, for one I can't find any proof that they are getting the dungeon, for two we don't know if they'll get the rest of the dungeon, for three we don't know what else will go in the patch... There's simply not enough info on it yet to warrant replacing the previous info.--IsaacGS 12:40, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Um, yeah that's the chart I was talking about. Talk:MapleStory is a list of all the templates. If you look at Template:MapleStory/Versions/Areas, that's the town availability, and so on. It can be a bit confusing to attempt to edit at first, just make sure you preview your edits so that you aren't messing up the table and/or are editing the right thing. What really confuses me is that you edited the talk page for one of those templates, which means you must have visited it before. O_O--IsaacGS 15:29, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

Ok thanks alot ^^--Ofir38 15:48, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The Amoria Dungeon Extension is likely to come out in at least ThailandMS, because they have the first map, so it seems possible. On the other hand, you've got this wild card of KMS, where if they get Amoria PQ, it will need to be accessible from the town, not the dungeon area, so that's fairly separated. It's also reasonable to think that the Extension could come without the PQ area.--IsaacGS 17:08, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

But still APQ it's not Exclusive PQ for GMS.... it will be go the APQ in Maple SEA because they want that people will be marry.--Ofir38 04:19, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
 * There's nothing to point to that, yet. I can't even find any proof that they will be getting the dungeon area at all...--IsaacGS 13:21, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
 * That system is very old, it's been in KMS and SEA for over a year. It's not important enough to warrant a separate box, and more than likely it won't be going to any other versions. If you want to add something to the chart other than "yes" or "no", you need to bring it up with other people unless it's obviously important (like a new town.)--IsaacGS 14:33, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Content Tone.
Keep in mind when you are adding things to page (for example, the Monster Carnival info.) that we are trying for a professional tone and a uniform format. When editing in this new info, try to keep in shape with the other content on the page. The Monster Carnival section was in a totally different tone and didn't conform the existing format used for the other Party quests. Do not use phrases like "pictures Soon" or emoticons ("^^") in your edits, and also avoid using first person, and second person where possible (I or you). Let me give an example of how a new PQ section should go:
 * ==Name of the Party Quest==
 * The ______ PQ is a Party Quest from (Whatever version)MS. A party of (How many people are needed to enter the PQ) is needed, as long as they are all over the level of (Level requirements go here). The time limit is __ minutes (or hours, depending on the Quest). . An NPC named (Name of the NPC you need to click on) is located in (Name of the Area the PQ is from) lets you inside. It is currently only available in (list the versions where it is available).


 * So, next time you want to add something like that, try to keep it in a format similar to this. Ideally, someone reading our guide should think that only one person wrote the entire thing, and not be able to tell where one person's edits end and another's begins.--IsaacGS 15:12, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

eMS DOES have Guild BBS.
They do have it. You need to join a guild to see it. Hurricane 07:19, 19 August 2007 (CDT) And it's my first private message, I hope I sent it okay.

KMS content
I don't see why that would be necessary, for a few reasons. Number 1, the vast majority of the game is created in Korea. As far as the other versions go, the only things they are 100% guaranteed to Eventually get are from Korea. So, simply knowing that the game was created in Korea (which is documented on the first page of the guide, and also common knowledge for most people.) should be sufficient. Number 2, going through and adding an "exclusive" flag to everything that was in KoreaMS would be tedious an unnecessary, and leaving a note at the bottom instead also seems unnecessary (As stated in my first point.) lastly, I think the fact that the only column with a "Yes" in it would make who invented it rather self-explanatory. :p--IsaacGS 15:22, 19 October 2007 (CDT)
 * You forgot the opening of the table, it is supposed to start with {|class="wikitable" to create the table.--IsaacGS 12:15, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Icons
Just because you can't see those icons in Global or EuropeMS doesn't mean that they aren't real. They're found in KMS, and they're passively present in GMS's data even now. It's better to go ahead and use the unique icons than to have 500 stupid ??? icons for no reason.--IsaacGS 22:06, 3 July 2008 (CDT) But in your icons there is a X on them ><. anyway why we cant use this one on them? http://media.strategywiki.org/images/e/e6/MS_Quest_Area_Icon.png Ofir38 02:34, 4 July 2008 (CDT)