User talk:Procyon

I welcome any and all feedback here, so please post your thoughts. Thank you.

Re: Upscaling
Hi Garrett. I noticed you upscaled the images on the retro titles I worked on. That's cool, however I was trying to conform to the changes that DrBob made to my Donkey Kong page. I'm comfortable following whichever formatting is correct, but now there's a discrepancy between DK and the other pages that I started. Just want to know which one I should use from now on (and if DK needs to be fixed.) Thanks!


 * Oh, I didn't see that change. On the SNES/Genesis guides I've been doing I've included the screens at full scale. I don't think one is more correct than the other, but to me it's silly to make a screen blurry when for only a few pixels more it's crystal clear. Of course that's what using an LCD does to you... :) GarrettTalk 16:32, 27 June 2006 (PDT)

Image categorisation
I see you've been uploading a few images lately. When doing so, could you please make sure to categorise them using the correct image categories? The image policy is viewable here, and contains all the information you'll need to categorise future uploads. --DrBob (Talk) 06:40, 25 July 2006 (CDT)


 * Additionally, could you use more than one category where appropriate please? I just had to add to all the LOZ images you uploaded, because you'd only categorised them as sprites, where they are actually both sprites and characters. ;-) --DrBob (Talk) 05:02, 11 August 2006 (CDT)

Contact info
Hey, if you're reading this message and today is Friday, then I'm probably in San Diego. I'll be back this coming Monday. In the mean time, you can add my messenger handles (AIM: nessup@mac.com, MSN: nessup@cox.net). Talk to you soon.--Dan 21:41, 27 July 2006 (CDT)

Enhanced Sprites
Those sprites you've been making for the DK games are pretty awesome. I've been wondering, is there any particular way you're working out the shading/highlight/fade colors, or is it just a trial-and-error thing? I'd like to have a go at making some myself, although not necessarily for StrategyWiki - they just look cool. --aniki21 08:31, 31 August 2006 (CDT)


 * Thanks for the tips! I use GIMP2.2 myself. =) Can't say I knew that half the tools you mentioned existed before I followed your example, but thanks for the tutorial! --aniki21 09:56, 31 August 2006 (CDT)

Congratulations on making sysop
Congratulations on becoming a sysop, Procyon. I'm sure you'll continue to contribute lots of useful stuff. :-) --DrBob (Talk) 01:05, 6 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Thank you very much DrBob ^_^ Procyon 01:21, 6 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Is there any way I can contact you outside of StrategyWiki? MSN, e-mail, etc.? I have some questions&hellip; --DrBob (Talk) 10:49, 6 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Absolutely. If you use AIM or Yahoo IM, I am procyoncoon on both of them.  Email is plotor@ix.netcom.com, but I check it infrequently (once a day at night mostly.)  Lemme know if you need more direct contact.  Procyon 10:59, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
 * P.S. if I don't answer you right away on the IMs, I'm probably at lunch, or just away from my desk, but I'll definitely get your message when I sit back down.
 * Thanks. :-) --DrBob (Talk) 11:43, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
 * P.P.S Also, I'm in the Eastern United States time zone (-5:00 GMT) and primarily online from 10am to 5pm, give or take an hour.

Samurai Shodown
What's the difference between Samurai Shodown and Samurai Shodown!? Should they be merged, or what? I looked, and Wikipedia has the latter redirecting to the former, which I've copied over here, but if I'm wrong I can revert the changes. --DrBob (Talk) 10:48, 7 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Short Answer: SS is the name of the arcade version, while SNK added a ! to the name of the Neo-Geo Pocket version (and is actually supposed to be a retelling of SS4). The best place to confirm a lot of this information is typically gamefaqs.com.  Check out the SS page versus the the SS! page.  Different games.  There's a longer answer, but it's not important, I'm mainly frustrated by the user who started that page and then proceeded to upload the wrong picture.
 * Likewise, SS2! is different from SS2.


 * OK. :-) Sorry for the mess. --DrBob (Talk) 12:19, 7 September 2006 (CDT)

Fighting moves
What did you eventually decide to do for this? From the message you left on MUD's talk page, it sounds like you're going to put them all in one place, but I wouldn't recommend this. I still think it would be best to have the moves for each game in that game's guide, and moves for common characters put in the first game they appeared, then included (i.e. ) in pages for other games. --DrBob (Talk) 14:03, 9 September 2006 (CDT)

It's not quite what you think. Ultimately, I would like to retain the organization of the initial project. If you think of numbers as the name of each game, and letters as the name of each character, then you'd have a series of pages, each related to one particular game, that would be arranged as: And then you'd have another series of pages, each related to one particular character, that would be arranged as: Of course every indented appearance of A, B, C, 1, 2, and 3 would be linked to the non-indented occurrance page. With respect to the rest of StrategyWiki, we maintain a home page for each individual game just as we do today, but then we provide a link to the page that contains all of the moves for that game.
 * 1
 * A's moves
 * B's moves
 * C's moves
 * 2
 * A's moves
 * B's moves
 * C's moves
 * 3
 * A's moves
 * B's moves
 * C's moves
 * A
 * moves from 1
 * moves from 2
 * moves from 3
 * B
 * moves from 1
 * moves from 2
 * moves from 3
 * C
 * moves from 1
 * moves from 2
 * moves from 3

So for example, the Street Fighter II page would stay. Then instead of linking to each individual fighter, we say: Please see the list of moves for Street Fighter II here For Ryu's moves, please see Ryu's page here and so on. Organizationally, this is the best way to provide an easy navigation for the user to pop back and forth between games and characters, while still providing a consistant layout between the format we currently use for individual games, and a consistant organization for the arrangement of move lists.

I know it may seem a bit unorthodox compared to what we have today, but I'm only proposing this for the sake of increasing the organization, not decreasing it. That's why the individual SF2 char. pages need to move.


 * OK, I put up some sample pages, mostly copy/pastes of what was already on wikiknowledge. Of course the whole point is that I want it to look much better, and that's where blendmaster's hard work will come in.  So now if you check out Move_Lists, Move_Lists/Capcom, or Street Fighter II, you'll understand everything that I meant. Procyon 16:29, 9 September 2006 (CDT)


 * OK. Good luck. :-) (Please stop using CamelCase! It's driving me mad!) --DrBob (Talk) 16:48, 9 September 2006 (CDT)


 * LOL! I'm sorry about the CamelCase, it's a TERRIBLE programmer habit.  Just be glad I don't do lower-case preceeded camelCase like I have to do with all of my coding assignments (e.g. longHitPoints, gameObjectPosition, etc.) then you'd really hate me ^_^  I will make a conscious effort not to do it anymore.  Thanks!  Procyon 16:51, 9 September 2006 (CDT)

Re: Preview your changes before you save
I'll make sure to limit the number of Saves I do in the future. However, I would like to point out that it's impossible to see the effect editing a template has on a page that uses that template in preview. That's one reason there's so many edits. Weird things happen when you use html and css in wikis so it's hard to get it right using Preview. That being said, I'll try to use it whenever I can.


 * "I would like to point out that it's impossible to see the effect editing a template has on a page that uses that template in preview": That's why many templates have self-references included in a section. :-) (Sorry for butting in.) --DrBob (Talk) 08:59, 10 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Now that I'm trying to create a complex template for the first time, I understand exactly what he's talking about, and it's very frustrating. You can make a change to the noinclude section all that you want, but until you commit the changes you made in your template to the database, you can't ever preview your alterations.  I might start using regular wikipedia as a sand box ^_^ Procyon 13:40, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

MAME
One example of a CamelCase page would be MAME/Guide/Special Keys. :-) --DrBob (Talk) 16:34, 11 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Oooooooooh... I thought CamelCase would be if I were to type SpecialKeys (one word) instead of Special Keys (two words). I actually assumed that Special Keys was correct because it was the title of a page, and of course because it was seperated by a space.  I guess I'll move the page.  Procyon 16:39, 11 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Blech... :P There's four of them... and that many links to correct in the TOC and navs... I'll save it for tonight. Procyon 16:41, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

tmoe99's talk page
Why did you revert my comments on sub-paging? --DrBob (Talk) 14:00, 12 September 2006 (CDT)


 * Very sorry about that. I was looking for the comment you made about templates that was ironically just above this one, but I thought it was on someone elses talk page.  In the process, I clicked Revert mistakingly believing it would should me the point at which you might have said something about templates to tmoe99.  Pure accident.  I fixed it and put it back.  I'm really frustrated with templates :(  Procyon 14:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)


 * No matter: everyone makes mistakes. ;-) --DrBob (Talk) 14:57, 12 September 2006 (CDT)