User talk:Melon247

Welcome to StrategyWiki!
Hello Melon247! Welcome to StrategyWiki. Thank you for your contributions. If you have any questions, just contact a sysop through their talk page or post on the staff lounge, and they'd be happy to help. If you need help editing, check the StrategyWiki Guide. If you have a question about the content on this wiki, you can check out our staff lounge page. If you want to ask questions or hang out in IRC, we're usually around. On the other hand, if you have ideas for StrategyWiki, bring them up on the forums. Please remember to sign your name on, and only on, talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (    ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field as this helps to document all of your hard work. Feel free to delete this message from your talk page if you like, or keep it for reference. Happy editing! -- DrBob (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2008 (CDT)


 * Hi DrBob. You might have guessed that I like Dogs Life. Melon247 14:43, 26 March 2008 (CDT)
 * I'm glad you decided to join us, your Dog's Life information precedes you :P. -- Prod (Talk) 14:52, 26 March 2008 (CDT)


 * Is there a picture of all the buttons on a PS2 controller on this website?Melon247 04:05, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
 * What you probably want is Template:Psx. --DrBob (talk) 06:09, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Local Dog Challenges
I want to create a subpage for the Dog's Life article about the Local dog challenges and how you do them, but the table of contents is closed to prevent editing, so where do i put a link to the page?
 * You can edit the table of Contents here-- The preceding signed comment was added by Rocky (talk • contribs). 06:57, 2 April 2008 (CDT)

And also, i saw a new thing on the Dog's Life table of contents, it was the word appendices or something like that. What does it mean?
 * It's for anything that isn't part of the main walkthrough, and isn't basic information about the game. Essentially, anything that doesn't belong under "Getting Started" or "Walkthorugh". -- Prod (Talk) 11:04, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

Are there not that many users on Strategywiki or something because i see your name a lot, Prod. Melon247 14:27, 11 April 2008 (CDT)
 * We have a fair number, it's just that I'm an addic.... I like strategywiki a lot :D. -- Prod (Talk) 15:14, 11 April 2008 (CDT)

Hey, Prod it's a bit random, but what's your favourite game? You know mine, so i guess it's only fair. Melon247 13:53, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
 * Descent Freespace, though I haven't been able to play in a loong time. I'm a space flight sim fan :) -- Prod (Talk) 18:00, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Dog's Life Table of Contents
It exists already here: Dog's Life/Table of Contents. I've added the red links that you had on the previous table of contents to it. If you have questions, feel free to ask me or someone else. I've went ahead and deleted the other articles. The table of contents has the existing information in the correct formatting. RobJ1981 14:22, 9 May 2008 (CDT)

Ice Age stuff
a) You need to set your time zone correctly under your preferences. Click "My preferences" in the header banner at the top, and then click on "Date and Time."  If you're in Britain, and your actually in GMT, the offset should probably be 0 hours.

b) You should really learn how to find cover art for yourself. It's incredibly easy.  Go to Amazon, or eBay, and look the game up.  In a pinch, Google Images also works well.  Optimal sizes are around 320px across, but that's just a guide line, not a rule. Procyon (Talk) 11:42, 31 May 2008 (CDT)

Awards
I heard that on Wikipedia you can get awards. I don't really know much about this cos I couldn't find the page about awards. Are there awards you can get on Strategiwiki? And if there are, how can you win them? Melon247


 * No, we don't really do that sort of thing here. We ask the people only contribute to the site because they enjoy doing so, not because there is some reward basis behind it.  Procyon (Talk) 21:37, 31 May 2008 (CDT)

Ok, I only found out about the awards yesterday anyway. Melon247

5 star test?
What happens if you put a game through to the 5 star test thingy. I'm not sure what it's called. I just know that you have to have a completed guide to put through. Melon247 13:51, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

And also, how do you get pictures or coloured writing in your signature thingy?Melon247


 * If you're talking about a featured guide, you can nominate one here, and it gets voted on. Some guides are promoted, while others that aren't are given constructive criticism on how to help it reach the featured level.  As for you signature, click the "My Preferences" link at the top of the page, and under "User Profile", put whatever you'd like to appear in your signature in the "Nickname" box in standard wiki markup, and make sure that you check the "Raw Signature" box below the Nickname. Procyon (Talk) 16:13, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

Are the signatures with different colours your bots or something?Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan) 04:49, 20 July 2008 (CDT)

Administrator
How do you become an administrator? I would like to be one too because you get to answer peoples questions and things like that, but I'm not sure if I'd make a very good one because I tend to go on Dog's Life and not much else. Melon247 13:46, 14 July 2008 (CDT)


 * Administrators are chosen based on the results of a staff vote, and are generally nominated for their overall contributions to the site such as article clean ups, corrections, and organization. Any user is free to answer other user's questions, and in fact this is encouraged.  In other words, don't think that you need to become an Sysop to answer people's questions.  Answer people's questions and other staff members may recognize your potential to be Sysop. Procyon (Talk) 14:36, 14 July 2008 (CDT)
 * The only difference between regular users and sysops is that we can ban people and protect pages. As a regular user, you have as much say into anything that goes on as any sysop.  You can help people out and answer questions all you want. -- Prod (Talk) 22:15, 14 July 2008 (CDT)

Ok

Hey, Prod, you seem to be up late a lot. I noticed that the most recent things you put on are at nine or ten o' clock at night.Melon247 07:24, 15 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Remember, people from all over contribute to this site, they may not necessarily be in the same time zone as you are :). Also, if you want more of an overview on admins, see this page for an overview on how to become one, and this page for information on what admins can do. -- 17:20, 15 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Unfortunately, due to work I don't sleep much anymore :(. And as I keep moving around timezones these days, I may be anywhere from 1 hr ahead of that to 2 hours behind :P. -- Prod (Talk) 18:35, 15 July 2008 (CDT)

How do you find out if someone has written something on a talk page or do you just go on recent changes and hope that not too many people have changed pages since?Melon247 10:42, 16 July 2008 (CDT)
 * We only get around 500 edits per day, so it doesn't go too quickly, so I see every change by the end of the day. If you don't want to do that much, you can simply watch the pages you are interested in (using the watch button in the toolbox) and then visit your watchlist to see what's been changed recently. -- Prod (Talk) 22:05, 16 July 2008 (CDT)

I think I might sign myself up to be an administrator. I'll need some reasons why though.Melon247
 * Usually, administrator is only given if you need to delete pages or ban people. It's not really anything special. -- Prod (Talk) 22:05, 16 July 2008 (CDT)

Do you have to be an administrator to give people thank you's? If not, how do you do it!Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan)

And also you probably have to be an administrator to welcome people to strategywiki. I found a new user, so tell me if I did something wrong.Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan)

By the way, the new user was Borregudo I also did the same for Rapmj. There were some more new users but I didn't do any more just incase you had to be an administrater.


 * We can see all of the edits you are making, you don't need to bring them to our attention here. Melon, your enthusiasm and all of your contributions are appreciated, and I don't mean to bring your spirits down at all, but you simply don't have enough experience at this point to be an administrator.  You are more than welcome to welcome new users, however, we do not welcome users just for joining SW.  New users do not receive welcome notices until they make at least one contribution or edit.  Some users sign up and never do anything with the account, and there's no need for us to have a bunch of useless welcome messages clogging up the database.  Just to make sure that you're doing it correctly, all you have to do is type  and save the page, and everything will appear as it should.  Thank yous are probably best left to sysops unless you feel there is an overwhelming need to recognize someone who is being overlooked.  Procyon (Talk) 09:58, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Ok, it doesn't matter, I don't think Strategiwiki really needs another administrator when you see the long list of them.

And what are the pending task thingy's that everyone seems to have on their user pages?Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan) 06:56, 19 July 2008 (CDT)
 * It's the stuff we want to work on whenever we have a chance. Just to remind ourselves/show others. -- Prod (Talk) 12:18, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

What's the difference between an administrator and a Sysop? /: | --Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 13:10, 11 August 2008 (CDT)
 * They're exactly the same thing, just different names.-- The preceding signed comment was added by Rocky (talk • contribs). 13:46, 11 August 2008 (CDT)

I know you can still answer peoples questions if you're not a sysop, but if you aren't one no-body ever comes to you to ask questions anyway!!! I've looked through the recent changes things millions of times, just about every day, but you guys beat me to the talk pages. And one more thing, how much 'experiance' do you need to be an administrator. I have the feeling that completing Dog's Life isn't enough. I'll have to do an admin coarse. -- Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 08:52, 16 August 2008 (CDT)
 * As RfA states, there is no official prerequisites, however a knowledge of what admins can actually do (and what they can't do) is definitely a good thing to know. And demonstration of tasks that admins usually perform (reverting vandalism, etc. which don't need admin tools to do) is generally a good thing as well. Experience-wise, your contributions of content really don't make any bit of a difference, what's looked at more is your ability to demonstrate your grasp of how this wiki works -- the site's policies, understanding of admin tools, demonstration of admin tasks even without those tools. If you feel that you have all of that, then you probably have a good shot at becoming an administrator.
 * Just as a personal note, however, I don't think you're ready yet. I haven't seen any outstanding contributions from you outside of contributing content, nothing really in the way of cleanup or vandalism reversion. Don't let that discourage you if you feel that you're ready, however, just keep in mind that I won't be under the "Support" column unless somebody says something that changes my mind. -- 10:32, 16 August 2008 (CDT)
 * You might also want to chill in the IRC channel once in a while and chat with people. For talk pages, if there's anything you can add, go ahead and say it. Don't be discouraged if someone says something first (be happy that you didn't have to type it!). -- 16:39, 16 August 2008 (CDT)

What I don't understand is, what's the big deal? Being an admin on here doesn't grant you any more popularity or visibility, it's all about responsibility. I'm not against you becoming an admin at all, and if you follow Ryan and NMH's advice, I'm sure you will become one, but I've just never seen anyone else so "hungy" to become an admin. What's driving that in you? Procyon (Talk) 20:20, 16 August 2008 (CDT)


 * I've tried the chat thing but it doesn't seem to work and I get confused on how it works because even the 'about' thing is confusing. Also, no body ever seems to answer. Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 14:11, 17 August 2008 (CDT)

I don't know why I want to be an admin... people ask questions on your talk page because most newer people think they can only go for admins to help. I think I've only been able to help one person... which I'm not sure if it counted as 'helping'. The only thing is, I don't really want to sign myself up because it to me seems a bit... um, can't think of the word, but anyway. Just I don't know what anybody means by, like, special contributions or stuff. I did some cleanup on a few pages by copying the content to word and using the spell checker thing, but I'm not sure if that's what you mean.

I think I's be an admin already if one of the things needed was to make really long talk page sections Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert
 * You can start by helping with our chores. -- 15:47, 17 August 2008 (CDT)

I've started working on that, like categorizing pages and stuff. By the way, someone might need to check the numbers on those pages now that there isn't as many pages needing categorisation and stuff. Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 07:00, 18 August 2008 (CDT)
 * The numbers are generated automatically. They are and always will be very accurate. -- 09:20, 18 August 2008 (CDT)

There aren't really that many people that need help. If they do, they should be asking in the Staff lounge, where you can see them just as easily as any of us. The other place is on the forums. And as you can see, there just aren't that many people in either of those locations. I'd say focus on your guides, and help anyone who needs help with games you have. -- Prod (Talk) 09:53, 18 August 2008 (CDT)

Sandbox template
I made a template for sanboxes, but considering i had basicly no idea what I was doing could somebody please make it look more like a template. Otherwise it will proberably be deleted.Melon247 11:23, 16 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Our official sandbox is already at Sandbox, and it already has it's own template (which you are free to use as well). If you really want to keep the sandbox template you made, please move it into a user sub-page (such as User:Melon247/sandbox template) and change the link in your personal sandbox accordingly. Please let me know what your decision is. -- 13:39, 16 July 2008 (CDT)

Welcoming anons
Please do not welcome anonymous users unless they have made substantial contributions to the site. Even then, use the Register template instead of the Welcome template. There are two good reasons for this:
 * 1) If you welcome an anonymous IP, it leaves an indication that they really don't need to register, and they can just continue contributing "anonymously". While this is fine (since they are still contributing), it doesn't really help build up the StrategyWiki community, mainly due to...
 * 2) IPs can change... quite frequently, in fact. This means that some people may be using 10 or more IPs (perhaps in a single day if they have a proxy), and sometimes 10 or more people may be using the same IP. Welcoming one person when so many have the chance to use that same IP later on generally leads to confusion, which is why the only notices left on anon talk pages are usually notices that they should register an account.

I hope you understand, and feel free to reply here if you have any questions -- 08:47, 21 July 2008 (CDT)


 * Reminder. If you truly want to leave information for an anonymous user, please use the Register template instead of welcoming them. Procyon (Talk) 15:18, 7 August 2008 (CDT)

I saw the thing after saving the page saying they were an anon and i was about to change it but the internet stopped working, and then it wouldn't let me log into strategywiki earlier. This is the first time it let me edit anything today.
 * Yea, something messed up and the site was down all day. -- Prod (Talk) 16:36, 8 August 2008 (CDT)

Template:Register
As noted above, don't bother to post this on anon pages "unless they have made substantial contributions to the site." We only use this to remind users to log in or register if they continue to make all of their contributions under their IP address (for example, if I was a new user and had many many positive edits then it would be a good time to use it). This template is NOT used to urge users to register; we already have limitations and reminders for anonymous users. Please review the notes above, hopefully it will help you better understand why not to do this. But, with that in mind, thanks for trying =) -- 22:14, 29 August 2008 (CDT)

User infobox?
I copied the infobox thingy off Notmyhandle's user page and adjusted it (so it said about me) but I can't get the image to look right, because it either looked like it is now (very wierd) or completely huge. Someone help me!--Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan) 05:44, 7 August 2008 (CDT)

The time is all wrong again now.Melon247 (Dog&#39;s Life&#39;s No. 1 fan)
 * You need to adjust your timezone in your preferences. -- 07:16, 7 August 2008 (CDT)

Is anybody here good at counting without loosing count or anything like that because I have the list of pages I created, and in the infobox i put the number in, but I think I may have missed some articles while counting. Could someone count them again because I always loose place or get a bit muddled up. And don't worry, you can change the number in my infobox aswell. Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 08:23, 20 August 2008 (CDT)
 * Make a bulleted list but use # instead of *. -- 15:27, 20 August 2008 (CDT)

Images in signatures
First, you need an image that is the right size for signatures, 25x25 pixels is about right, you can resize it later. Upload the image and go to the image page, click the image, you will be taken to a page with only the image showing (For example here) once you have got to that page, copy and paste what's in the address bar and stick this code into a subpage: Melon247 paste what's in the address bar here (Talk - Contributions)

It should come out like this:Melon247 http://media.strategywiki.org/images/b/bb/SonSon_melon.png (Talk - Contributions)

This would be OK if the image was the right size, you now the code's on a subpage, go to your preferences and click the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" checkbox and add  to the Nickname panel, that should make your signature with an image.

If the image is the wrong size, change http://media.strategywiki.org/images/b/bb/SonSon_melon.png to http://media.strategywiki.org/images /thumb /b/bb/SonSon_melon.png /25px-SonSon_melon.png (http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/b/bb/SonSon_melon.png/25px-SonSon_melon.png) and copy/paste the address in the code above.

Finished code: Melon247 http://media.strategywiki.org/images/b/bb/SonSon_melon.png (Talk - Contributions)

Melon247 http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/b/bb/SonSon_melon.png/25px-SonSon_melon.png (Talk - Contributions)

If you need any more help or clarification, ask on my talk page.-- The preceding signed comment was added by Rocky (talk • contribs). 14:48, 8 August 2008 (CDT)
 * To note, adding images makes a mess of the wikicode, and we might not support external images forever. -- Prod (Talk) 16:09, 8 August 2008 (CDT)

OK' thanks! I'll save this signature for special occasionsMelon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert

Prizes?
When people win from the things on my puzzle page, is there anything I can do other that tell them they won, such as made a template or something and put it on their user page when they win? -- Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 07:53, 13 August 2008 (CDT)

Dog's Life Spell Check
Sure thing :3 I will do a complete proof reading over the next few days to see if I can catch anything amiss. You have been doing a ton of work on this guide so I’m happy to help out. -Zaiqukaj 09:27, 14 August 2008 (CDT)

Seems like you have some help from Rocky too : ) -- Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 12:56, 14 August 2008 (CDT)

P.S. I'll look through the articles when putting images in to make sure no-body changed them so they aren't right, but I'm sure I won't have to do much correcting then.

Deleting Pages
How do you delete really random pages that are basically vandalism? There's one page, Zoo Tycoon: Dinosaur Digs/Walkthrough that looks like vandelism. I just marked it for deletion.Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 07:09, 18 August 2008 (CDT)
 * Only admins have the ability to delete pages. I've deleted that page. RobJ1981 08:45, 18 August 2008 (CDT)
 * In the future, mark them with delete. Also, please try to ask questions at the Staff lounge instead of your talk page, where they will be more visible to both the people answering you and other people seeking answers. -- 09:21, 18 August 2008 (CDT)

Re: Best Friends
Garret, i don't suppose you have that best friends game because I have all the others, but I've never even heard of that one before. Maybe it's not out in the uk.Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 03:06, 28 August 2008 (CDT)
 * I don't have any of the Nintendogs games. Best Friends appears to be only sold bundled with a Pearl Pink or Pearl Blue DS, along with "a Bone Shaped Screen Cleaner, Wrist Strap and Nintendogs DS skin". It doesn't appear to have been released outside North America. GarrettTalk 03:35, 28 August 2008 (CDT)
 * ?! I think that is the one I have (bundled with the teal DS). The packaging is in storage, but I may be able to dig it up and scan it. --Zaiqukaj 03:59, 28 August 2008 (CDT)

Dog's Life To Do
I need, like, a Dog's Life to do list or something so I know what I need to do to the guide to get it to that five star rating.Melon 247, the Dog&#39;s Life Expert 07:24, 29 August 2008 (CDT)
 * Done, see Talk:Dog's_Life. -- 13:38, 29 August 2008 (CDT)

Image categorization
Remember to categorize your images! You forgot on two Kitty Luv images, though I've taken care of them for you. -- 21:39, 30 August 2008 (CDT)


 * I forgot to put the box art category on the box art, but i didn't know what to put on the other one.Melon247, The Dog&#39;s Life Expert 10:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Next time, ask xD -- 19:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Watermill Map and Higher Quality Images
Hey Melon, nice work on the Water Mill map for Dog's Life; I assume you used MS Paint? There's two things I'd like to notify you about: Thanks for the great work and I hope you can learn something from all this, -- 21:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) You saved the image as a .bmp, and then uploaded it under Image:Dog's Life Watermill Map.png - as you can see they are not the same thing. Basically, you uploaded a .bmp with a different file extension name and it kept both the file type and the name of the file separate (if you look under the image you'll see the following line: "Dog's_Life_Watermill_Map.png‎ (589 × 475 pixel, file size: 820 KB, MIME type: image/x-bmp)"). However, we can't have that here so you either need to upload it as "Dog's Life Watermill Map.bmp" (we don't allow .bmp anyways so you can forget about that option), re-save the image from MS Paint as a .png to match the file extension and then upload a new version over the top of what you already have (there's a link on the image's page to do so), OR you can deal with number 2 (below).
 * 2) As you've probably noticed around the site, we don't really use MS Paint for making our images. The reason is clear: they come out at a low quality and you can't do transparency with it. To remedy this, we use some of the more professional tools available out there: Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, or the free and open source program called GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/). Since the first two cost money, I recommend downloading, installing, and playing around with GIMP - you'll learn more advanced techniques for working with images (like layers, paths, and styles) and they'll eventually come out looking much better than what you could pull off with MS Paint. So, if you're interested, and I recommend it, please download and work with GIMP from now on.

Thanks
A little thank you… For all of the many awesome contributions to pet related games. Hugs, 23:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC) Feel free to move this to your user page if you like. Keep up the great work! -- 23:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

THE DOG Island
Hi, just came from your THE DOG Island page after doing a little cleanup on spelling and grammar. Just wanted to mention a few things:

1) Clicking on the rightmost link at the bottom of the page doesn't take you to the next section of the walkthrough, but back to the main page.

2) What are you ideas on some consistency certain in-game terms? For instance in the game, the currency is capitalized (i.e. Woof) and also the main island, as well as the game itself, is referred to as THE DOG Island as opposed to The Dog Island. I changed to the island name to all caps in the pages, but refrained from changing the main headers and titles.

3) I was wondering if you are playing the European version of this game, and if so, are all the terms actually spelled in that fashion? Meaning is the word "colour" actually used instead of "color" or "memorise" instead of "memorize"? I didn't change any of those type of words except "metre," which just looked too wrong to me!

Anyway, I'm a fan of the game and I'm glad to see your guide is coming along. Cheers
 * Sorry for intruding, but Melon: in regards to item 1, setting the nextpage= parameter on the Footer Nav will allow you to modify the link, see the documentation for more info. To both Melon and 24.234.156.46, the same "flavor" of English should be used throughout the guide. Therefore, if it was written in British English, it should remain in British English, so "metre" would be correct and all instances where it is not changed back to fit properly with the rest of the guide. As for point 2... you can decide on that one :) -- 20:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I know this is wierd, but everyone says the title of the game should be The Dog Island, but every time someone says the title in the game, the subtitles at the bottom say THE DOG Island. I'm not sure which it's supposed to be. Melon247, The Dog&#39;s Life Expert 12:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see 4 Kids Entertainment, Inc.'s property page where they describe The Dog. Artistically their logo is "THE DOG", however when you talk about it it's simply "The Dog" (standard written form). Because of this, both ways are correct. Since we already have the guide set up, there's no reason to change it, however within a page, all of the content should be standardized (regionalized language and "The Dog" capitalization). Just make sure it's either one, but not both. -- 19:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello again, this is 24.234.156.46. I registered to make it easier on everyone. I went back through the guide and changed all the "THE DOG" instances to "The Dog" as well as re-Britishizing meter and memorize. Did some spelling and grammar stuff too. Anyway, glad to see you're still updating the guide.

I was wondering about the Content box that is on some of the pages, but not on all of them. Looking at the edit page, I don't see anything explicitly generating these boxes, but if it is possible to force them it would provide more consistency throughout the walkthrough. Edit: Nevermind, I found it. If using isn't the proper way to do it, let me know. I'll check back in from time to time for cleanup. Keep up the good work. Najzere 16:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I just verified my email and saw your question about the swordfish on my IP's talk page. To catch the swordfish (Marlin) you need to do a couple missions first for the dogs on the beach in Green Meadows. You need Marlin bait first. You get it by finding the saffron flower for Sayori (one of the dogs on the beach) and then talking to her husband Isaki. Once you get the bait you can find the Marlin on most sea piers. - Najzere 19:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I see you are interested in cleanup stuff. Just to let you know, I am working on the guide for Dog's Life at the moment. Everyone's working on the spelling and grammer and things like that because it's being voted on for Featured Guide status. I don't suppose you have any free time (or Dog's Life, because no-one else seems to have it and so I'm the only one who knows what I'm talking about) to help us? --Melon247, The Dog&#39;s Life Expert 13:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)