User talk:Echelon

Hiya Ech, I whipped up a nice disclamer using Wikipedia's one. Seems nice, let me know what you think (and sorry for using up space on your talk page):

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--Tapo 21:43, 7 January 2006 (EST)
 * Lookgs great Tapo! I like that a lot! We'll probably need an agreement like this in the future... --Echelon 19:38, 7 January 2006 (PST)

Hey Ech. I made a few changes after you went to bed.

On the Main Page I lifted up the categories a bit and seperated out the main welcome message from the mission statement.

I added a little more to the Help:Contents page that should enable more people to get up and running if they're unfamiliar with wikis. I also created a sandbox for people to mess around in.

I created a quick index and linked to it from the main page, below the system categories.

Let me know what ya think. --Doozer 00:25, 7 January 2006 (PST)


 * Very, very nice work, Doozer! I'm especially happy with the Help:Contents! Everything on the front page looks much nicer, too! Great job! --Echelon 11:49, 7 January 2006 (PST)

GNU License and copying from Wikibooks
I have uploaded the GNU Free Documentation License to Strategy Wiki - it needs to be closed to editing. I was also wondering about the disclaimer at the bottom of the Main Page, I have been moving a Wikibook (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas) and all of it's content is freely distributed as long as it's linked to original, mentions FDL, etc. - all of which are adhered to on the first page. Is this okay or should I stop moving pages? There doesn't seem to be any legal issue or is there another reason? Jackhynes 09:23, 11 January 2006 (PST)
 * I think we will be fine in moving this, but I'm going to need to make a template to denote articles that came from Wikibooks. I was just pointed out to this issue last night, but I think using other GFDL content will help this wiki in its initial growing phase. --Echelon 11:44, 11 January 2006 (PST)

GamerWiki
Hi, Echelon, I just wondered if you had seen GamerWiki, another type of gaming wiki? StrategyWiki is an excellent resource, keep it going. -- Tyagi 05:25, 21 January 2006 (PST)
 * Tyagi, looks nice. I suppose we'll both be growing quite a lot throughout the year. Best of luck with GamerWiki! :) --Echelon 21:54, 21 January 2006 (PST)
 * Thanks. We do need additional contributors to keep the flow of new information in to GamerWiki. If StrategyWiki would like to collaborate on anything, or would like to direct link to our information on hardware or software information, that would be great. It may allow you guys to concentrate on the guides aspect rather than other areas such as hardware specs/details/rumours and game reviews/release info etc. -- Tyagi 00:15, 11 February 2006 (PST)

You asked for my AIM
AIM   misbeliever01 E-Mail xfollowtehreaper@hotmail i made the nintendo, sony, etc company pages

My contact details
Sure, you can reach me at [mailto:masterthiefster@gmail.com]. GarrettTalk 00:34, 7 February 2006 (PST)

MediaWiki 1.6
There is a newer version of MediaWiki. We have recently upgraded to this version at SporeWiki because of the default values for templates option which may or may not be really useful here, I'm not active enough to know. But with that option a kind of "if" template could be made that would allow a template to have information if a certain value is given, if it isn't, the template wouldn't have that info. I'm not sure if that's useful to you or anyone here, but it was useful to us, and was definitly worth the upgrade, plus, there are a host of other features in the upgrade. I'd recommend checking it out :). -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 16:34, 4 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Nice, thanks for the heads up Mason! An  construct would make working with templates so much easier! --echelon talk 18:52, 4 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Cool, I took the qif template code from wikipedia to put it on sporewiki, and I could integrate it into some of your templates here until people get a grasp of how it works (it is fairly strange until you look into it quite a bit). :) -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 08:32, 8 May 2006 (PDT)

Intro Pages on Guides
You kind of look like you're in charge, so here goes. It looks like the vote on ditching the intro pages has come out unanimous, I was wondering if we could have an official decision rendered or just figure out who and how to redo the layouts.--BigCow 17:23, 25 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Yeah, we're going to fully ditch those. I have something of a plan that I've been discussing with Garrett that I hope to implement soon. I'll try to make a presentation this weekend. echelon [[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]] 22:22, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Pages to delete
As a result of many hours of hard work, I've collected quite a number of pages which need deleting. They've all been marked with the delete template, and are in requests for deletion, so could you go through them all and (hopefully) delete them all please Echelon? Thanks. :) --DrBob 13:25, 28 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Taken care of! Thanks for tagging them, that must've been quite a task! :) echelon [[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]] 14:20, 28 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Thanks for that. I went through the entirity of Special:Wantedpages (roughly 2500 pages in the list) looking for links to all sorts of bad stuff, and found lots of it. I thought I'd finished, but I've now noticed that half the RuneScape stuff is actually filed under Runescape. :-( --DrBob 14:29, 28 May 2006 (PDT)

I've now accumulated some more pages to delete. I think I might be getting lazy with the reasoning for them, but they should all be obvious anyway. --DrBob (Talk) 03:51, 17 June 2006 (PDT)


 * I'll get to it! Thanks for compiling the list, I know that must be exhausting work! echelon [[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]] 11:44, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

comment left on my talk
I responded to the comment you made on my talk. -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 23:16, 20 June 2006 (PDT)

Licensing
The GNUFDL template isn't really that useful, since all users who have edited here since it's inception through the change to the SWPL edited under that license, and afterwards the SWPL won't be a useful template. Also, afterwards the CC templates as well as the GDFL templates will be meaningless because they are more restrictive then the site license which would mean you couldn't actually release your edits under GNU FDL because the site would force you to do the SWPL. Now and afterwards the public domain template would be useful because it shows that while you do have the rights given by the site (all editors here do) you waive them. You can't put a more restrictive license template up and gain more rights if the site doesn't allow them. So you should probably only have up the CC one and the SWPL one, after the transition, you won't need any of them, unless you wanted to waive some of your SWPL given rights, in which case you'd have to go down to public domain (unless there is something less restrictive then the SWPL will be). -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 00:32, 26 June 2006 (PDT)


 * That's a very good point! I guess I was getting a little too abstract, thinking that GFDL-only wikis may want to use my content so that I should license it under the GFDL. But I assume they could import SWPL or CC content, right? I'll consider removing them tomorrow, my head hurts and I need sleep. :P  ech elon  00:54, 26 June 2006 (PDT)


 * If a GFDL-only wiki would like your content I imagine they would simply have to attribute you as the SWPL dictates, which is very similar to the GFDL stuff. -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 08:12, 26 June 2006 (PDT)


 * I'll go through and remove these soon then and let those who use them know why. They're pretty much useless.  ech elon  11:05, 26 June 2006 (PDT)

To do list
I added the older versions of the sporewiki todo templates that don't have the dynamic nav feature (which I may try to implement soon), and I put one on your userpage page, normally those are left on talk pages, but I figure I shouldn't change your userpage TOO much :). I use it on my talk page on sporewiki and it is very useful and will be moreso when I get the dynamic nav stuff set up.  Let me know what you think.  And this of course isn't just for user pages, this could be put on any of the guides that need specific stuff, and I think it may be even more used here then on sporewiki :). Let me know what you think. -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 08:22, 26 June 2006 (PDT)


 * That's pretty slick Mason! Not only will this help users organize their own todo lists, but this is an excellent way of organizing todo lists for the guides themselves. Very, very useful! :)  ech elon  11:04, 26 June 2006 (PDT)

SW and SW
I was looking at the stats pages of sporewiki and strategywiki and they were almost exactly the same in most statistics, and I thought that was pretty sweet and amusing. Although strategywiki has about 3 times as many members, which means it won't stay as close for long lol. Just thought I'd share that.


 * Mason11987, I've seen SporeWiki a few times before and I think it's a really cool project! They've given me a few ideas for StrategyWiki, and I hope that we can only provide the same kind of help or ideas if they ever need it of us.  ech elon  01:52, 4 July 2006 (PDT)


 * I've taken a few ideas from here and implemented them there. I can assure you I will write an exceptionally good guide about Spore when it comes out :). -- Mason11987 (Talk - Contributions) 13:35, 4 July 2006 (PDT)

Estimation on PNGs?
Hi Echelon. I know that you already know about this problem, and I really don't mean to be a pain in the ass about it. I was just curious if you had any guess or estimate as to when the PNG problem would be resolved? I love the site, and I love contributing to it, but I haven't continued with my work since I have been unable to upload PNGs. I know you're very busy with the site, I was just hoping for a good word. Thanks very much.Procyon