Talk:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Combat

Critical hit damage
I'm putting this here for future reference for when I revise this page (among others), but also because it contradicts information from other sources I've seen and, although it can be verified by looking at Feedback, it requires a little time and effort because it isn't immediately obvious.

I've recently learned that most items are simply modified versions of base items: the example I'll use here is an Echani Foil, which is a modified Vibrosword. Vibroswords display Damage: Physical, 2-12 (2d6) while an Echani Foil displays Damage: Physical, 5-15 (2d6 + 3). I'd already established that constant damage bonuses from upgrade items aren't doubled by a critical hit (by the same means described below), so the critical damage of an Echani Foil might be calculated one of two ways:

A critical hit inflicting 7-9 damage would indicate that option 1 was correct, while inflicting > 27 damage would indicate that option 2 was correct. A character with 10 Strength (STR 0) used an Echani Foil with Master Critical Strike and Master Speed to attack a droid with no damage resistance until a critical hit inflicted 9 damage, indicating option 1 was correct (and 25 was the highest I saw).

I actually started testing by attacking Darth Malak, but changed to clarify an unanticipated result due to his Master Toughness. A character using an Echani Foil with STR +17 once inflicted just 38 critical damage, when the minimum expected was 39 (2+2 + 17+17 + 3 - 2): this indicates that Improved or Master Toughness subtracts from the +3 bonus separately, despite it being the same damage type as the weapon (since (2+3 + 17+17 - 2 + 3-2 = 38).

I should really check whether Improved or Master Toughness subtracts from total critical damage as displayed in Feedback or whether it might actually subtract from the two damage rolls separately, but that seems unlikely and I've done enough for my current purposes (how to properly express damage for NPCs in the walkthrough... like the Sith diplomat in the Sith base on Manaan who uses, and drops, an Echani Foil). Onderduiker (talk) 17:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)