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FAQ section
Man, that thing is a nightmare. I put a warning at the top that it's not a talk page. I tried fixing it, there was SO many spelling errors and a lot of incorrect information. It's in need of a complete rewrite or possible removal. In addition, I was wondering if we should create a "Pets/mounts" page, as there's quite a few of them and in some versions they have innate differences in skills and such. IsaacGS 00:15, 31 March 2007 (CDT)


 * Well thanks for cleaning up the page. Pets/mounts page would be useful considering we're getting those mounts in GMS soon. I guess everyone was too lazy to figure out what to include and exclude. This includes me. GameFreak 03:12, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

OMFG GMS Exclusive maps!
On the nexon website: http://maplestory.nexon.net/WZ.ASPX?PART=/Community/GM_Blog&mode=view&uid=23&bbsidx=7616&cat=26 hope that link works, if not check the GM blogs. It's Called New Leaf City, seems to be a mesh of all the major cities in the world. Really cool. I'm so excited, and right after I pretty much singlehandedly defeated Geist balrog. I'm really up on adrenaline right now, so exciting! I'm gonna start a page for it right now. --IsaacGS 20:12, 15 June 2007 (CDT)


 * Do you expect it is going to be a World Tour Area? - Wkkim9292 22:07, 15 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I do, it may be a while before other versions see it. I just hope they want it and it doesn't suck like Floating Market. XD--IsaacGS 22:49, 15 June 2007 (CDT)::
 * They just had a question and answer section on the Nexon forums and I got a few in representing us. As a side note, the Nexon representative told me "good work on the Amoria PQ guide" so they look at strategywiki. <3 Wow, wonder if that's important enough for Wikipedia? I'll post the complete Q&A when we've got it.--IsaacGS 22:32, 25 June 2007 (CDT)

Here's the complete Q&A:


 * NLC has been in development for a while. This is not just something quick and dirty, it's an area that will grow and expand. We have some different features planned for the areas as well. We're not looking at it as "Only level X can train here", it's being developed so everyone will eventually be able to enjoy the area and train. This includes our high-level population.


 * Q:will we get NLC before or after showa?


 * A: Can't really comment on this one.


 * Q:is there a gachapon machine there?


 * A: You'll find out when it opens...


 * Q:is there any skin doctor, eye doctor, hair stylist, etc?


 * A: Yes to all those.


 * Q: Will the town include a Party Quest?
 * A:What an interesting question. I'll leave this one for a later date.


 * Q: Will the town include a boss and if so what kind (mushmom type, balrog type, zakum type, etc)?
 * A:This is trickier to answer, but I will say this. I grew up in Brooklyn and Manhattan. I've heard plenty of urban legends. So, you'll have to wait and see for this one...


 * Q: How will we access the town? I am guessing the World Tour but can you can confirm this?
 * A:I won't say how yet, but it isn't the World Tour.


 * Q: Will there be any user created hairs in the town? I know some people sent them in for the weapon design contest that I would like to see in the game ^.^
 * A:Heh, not exactly. =)
 * Q:Have the drop lists been finalized?
 * A:We'll go into further details about this a little later.
 * Q:Will the "continent" take us through different periods of time as well as different parts of the earth?
 * A:Hmm. I'll say that we'll revisit this. I don't want to go into extreme details, because we want everyone to discover what's there. But I can say that I'm a big fan of secrets and puzzles. And when you're a mid-level to advanced player, your mind should be challenged as well as your multitude of skills.

As a separate point, I'm hoping that someone figures out how to get those capes from the Amorian Party Quest...
 * Q:What will the monsters be off of, like will there be a slum-like area with ganger-like monsters, pitbulls, and the such?
 * A:Slum-like area? Not quite. The monster concepts are somewhat different than what's normally seen. They retain humor while expressing something new. Best I can do right now. =)
 * Q:ahem, like i said before, will there be monsters that are COMPLETELY new.. if you don't answer this time i give up...
 * A:Heh, I answered this about as clear as I could. Yes.
 * Q:I know you're saying Nexon hasn't forgotten the higher-leveled players in terms of monsters and maps, but how about quests? (Worth doing, preferably)
 * A:Quests either. High-level content is more of a challenge, but rewarding, because we can make them harder. This doesn't necessarily mean drop rate, there's a few things we're going to implement and see if they work for you guys. I'm sure you'll let us know either way =).
 * Q:Is NLC gonna be loaded with pop culture references like some of Taiwan's exclusive maps?
 * A:Heh, hopefully, you'll see some stuff there that'll make you chuckle. The pop culture references are always fun, so we always do our best to work of this in.
 * Q:If this isn't going to join the world tour, will we contribute something to the world tour for other versions to enjoy? Also, is this related to Amoria in anyway (Like perhaps how to get there, or so on.)?
 * A:For your first question, details like that are worked out a lot later. And it has no direct relation to Amoria, as in, it's not how you get there or anything like that.
 * Q:Will you make the monsters plausible to train on... please? Like... not for 2% an hour at 10x...
 * A:We'll do our best too, yes. In particular, we're interested in seeing how much you guys can actually handle at once. I don't necessarily mean Zakum style. I grew up playing Gunstar Heroes, Vectorman, Donkey Kong Country, the Marios and Sonics, etc, where you combined platforming, dodging and attacking to win. The last portion of the Amorian Party Quest has some of that, and its' been well-received, so maybe we'll try a few more stages like that in the future.
 * Q:Do you have any concept art of the place that you'd be willing to release any time soon?
 * A:We're talking about it, nothing finalized yet though. When we make a decision, you'll know =).
 * Q:I'm curious as to your allusion to the Amoria capes. Any hints on how we can get a hold of those?
 * A:Hmm. Well, I can say there is a method to it, but you have to figure it out. That's part of the fun.

I wish you luck. '''And as a side note, good job with the Guide. Wink''' (haha, cool.)
 * Q:what else will Nexon be focusing on aside from new land?
 * A:Well, as Stoveboy said, we have quite a few things we're planning, so stay tuned.
 * Q:Is Cody's dream for a theme park going to be honored in any way, shape, or form?
 * A:Yes.
 * Q:I would like to know if you have a maple story character and if so what lvl, job, and world do you play in? XD
 * A:I have quite a few, highest being the 91 I/L Mage and the lowest being a Level 7 Beginner. I like to keep a few characters low level to gauge difficulty for new players.
 * Q:I know it's difficult, but will you try to make content that requires every class to work together?
 * A:It's tricky. Something like this would have to be planned out fairly far in advance. Not saying it won't happen, but we have a lot on our plate the coming months.
 * Q:I hope there's a gigantic alligator boss in the sewers, obviously you can't reveal anything but I've always been attracted to the gloom and doom of a sewer environment, with something dripping in the darkness.
 * A:I've beaten Resident Evil 2 many, many times. The darkness in particular plays well in that stage...
 * Ok everyone. Thanks for posting, I know that you would've liked some more direct answers, but more is forthcoming. Thanks for playing. =)


 * So, there's some info there. Interesting. The Amoria PQ capes has me particularly confused at the moment, we're all working on it now.--IsaacGS 01:08, 26 June 2007 (CDT)

KoreaMS July Patch...
1.KoreaMS is getting a new map called Magatia which is located at North of Ariant.

2.KoreaMS is getting Amoria.

3.The every monster's name and HP will be shown.

4.A new Party Quest for High Level Players.

5.21st World

We are getting many things. Magatia is translated from (마가티아). To look at this article, we need an account so when the patch is up, I will put more details on it. - Wkkim9292 23:27, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Great job breaking the news once again. I'm pretty surprised that KMS got Amoria before JMS.--IsaacGS 23:48, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
 * About this Magatia PQ, is anything known about it? Do we even know for a fact that it takes place in Magatia? The current translations i've seen on Sleepywood are calling it "Romeo and Juliet" PQ, and the google translation also comes out with Juliet. --IsaacGS 18:49, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Some Magatia PQ info has appeared on Insoya. The boss seems to be some sort of Frankenstein monster, and most of the PQ looks like it's in the same sort of Laboratory setting. --IsaacGS 21:11, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

footer navs
I wouldn't mind running around adding the footer navs to all of the pages that are missing them. Random grunt work is no problem for me. My only concern is screwing things up. Would it be alright if the footer navs navigated in the order the ToC is in? Also, are there any pages that are not supposed to have them? --Zaiqukaj 08:04, 26 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Footer Navs are mainly for the toc pages, or if there is a logical progression between pages. Apart from the monsters pages, nothing much needs the links. -- Prod (Talk) 19:42, 26 June 2007 (CDT)
 * OK, monsters by levels now all have footers. At the beggining and end they go back to monsters. I hope thats ok. --Zaiqukaj 10:43, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Looks good to me. Nice work. :-) --DrBob (Talk) 11:34, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

Info for Towns
I was thinking about it, and maybe there's some more info we can add to the towns pages. For one, we can add the hairstyles that are available in each of the towns that has a hair salon. As far as I know, that would be Kerning, Henesys, Amoria, Ludibrium, Orbis, Mu Lung, and Showa Town. Not sure if there's hair in Ximending or Yuyuan, but I know there isn't in Shanghai or Thailand. The GMs also said there would be in New Leaf City. There could be other important things like this, I can't think of any at the moment. But a lot of people have been asking about what hair goes in a certain town lately.--IsaacGS 18:31, 28 June 2007 (CDT)


 * New Leaf City is the one coming to MSea, right? OhanaUnited  Talk page  03:35, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * New Leaf City is Global's "Exclusive" area. The one MSEA is getting is based on Singapore and coming out in August. They haven't released a name yet, which is why I'm hesitant to add it to the guide yet. --IsaacGS 20:58, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Yep, I just happened to find this picture on the MapleSEA forums. here. It also said something about a 3rd quarter release in 2007, so that would put it for a July, August, or September release. -- Takiten 00:48, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Hadn't seen that, but there was a screenshot of a MSEA GM saying it would come out in August. --IsaacGS 01:58, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
 * There are Hair Shops in Yuyuan and Night Market. I saw Night Market having it and found out that Yuyuan has it by watch a ChinaMS video. - Wkkim9292 17:23, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Alright. Also, what about like, a list of NPCS available in each town? I know it varies some from version to version, but most of the people visiting here are from global and SEA. I might try these new additions out on the Henesys page.--IsaacGS 20:58, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * If you're willing to support anything you start, I'm all for it :) I'd just like to know what the end benefit is? -- Prod (Talk) 22:22, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I believe it was you who said some of the towns pages are very small. I'm trying to put some additional info on there in an easily accessible manner. I'm just finishing up with Henesys, we'll see how it looks. It can have each of the NPCs link to what quests they're involved in, for one.--IsaacGS 22:32, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Heh, that was when they started :P. Now they've got quite a bit of info (they do need a bit of cleanup... I haven't gotten around to it yet though).  I would suggest just sticking to the NPCs who give quests because it's a pain to keep the others updated when new NPCs keep appearing and old NPCs get renamed, and sauna is better at it anywayz. -- Prod (Talk) 08:35, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * You're probably right about that... Uploading even just the ones for henesys took a long time. Quest NPCs could also have the pictures located next to what quests they're involved in. I'll move some stuff around and try to set it up like that.--IsaacGS 11:05, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Alright, check out Perion. Each NPC is listed with all of the quests associated with them there. If this is good, I'll put links to each quest and then the NPCs associated with the quest, at that point in the quest page. Tell me what you think.--IsaacGS 23:49, 8 July 2007 (CDT)

Monster Carnival
Someone marked Monster Carnival is only available at Anniversary in Template, but KoreaMS still has Monster Carnival. Is it sure that Monster Carnival is going to get removed soon? - Wkkim9292 17:25, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Guess we were wrong... If you are sure that it is still in KMS, then it should just be changed to a "Yes" to mean it is staying. But KMS hasn't patched this month yet have they? So maybe we should wait until the next KMS patch and see if it is taken out then. Wait, KMS's anniversary was in April, and there has been a patch in May, which would have taken it out. But if It is still in, then that means it's probably staying. -- Takiten 20:13, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * Wow, that's interesting. Didn't know it was still there. Wonder if it will become permanent in JMS as well. --IsaacGS 20:54, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
 * I just saw the note on the template. Their anniversary event seemed Identical to KMS's, so I thought they might be getting the carnival... As you may know, they just IP banned pretty much everyone, so I can't get on and see anymore. --IsaacGS 21:12, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

MapleSEA Singapore exclusive maps
Since it is confirm that the maps will be release in August why don't we add a SEA maps into maplestory:town with infomation gather just like global new leaf city --XreddevilsX
 * The reason I have been hesitant to add the Singapore map is because we don't actually know the town's name yet. If they announce that it is called "Sentosa" or whatever, then It'll be added immediately. Also, unlike New Leaf City, the mapleSEA developers aren't releasing much, if any, info on that town, whereas every weekday we learn more about Global's due to the Q&A sessions. The page would pretty much just say "this will be a World Tour map created by MapleSEA that comes out in August. It is based on Singapore." and that's it.

Also, don't forget to sign by using ~ four tilde or by clicking http://strategywiki.org/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png --IsaacGS 13:50, 1 July 2007 (CDT)

IP blockings
Well, ThailandMS is no longer the only version with an IP block on downloads. EuroMS is also starting this practice (how long it has been in effect, I don't know, but it's there now.) And the rumors seem to point to it happening for some others. If anyone on here has access to the European version, please say so. It would be incredibly helpful if the installer and/or several .WZ files (namely Map and Mob) could be uploaded to some other server that doesn't discriminate by IP. The main reason why is that EMS has gained an exclusive PQ (dunno if it will be temporary) and I want to right a guide up for it. --IsaacGS 19:48, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I Have managed to acquire a download now. From what I hear, this PQ is a one-time deal, so it's probably temporary. However, in the Event notice from the site, there's a VERY detailed Eiffel Tower in the background, done in Maple Style. EMS world tour map?--IsaacGS 20:37, 4 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Maple Europe is blocking IP from the States, I don't know if it is blocking IP from other regions. Even AOL users in Europe could not log on to game. The problem is know fixed.
 * Maple Global is bocking IP from Europe [only creating new accounts, old players from Europe still remain there]. I live in Poland and in my country we still can create new accounts, maybe Wizet thinks that Poland is in Asia [or we have asian IPs, never thought about it]. I have no information if AOL users in Europe can crate accounts there. Vigilium 01:58, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I got it downloaded and installed, and found out a few interesting things. The Bastille is in the same area of the data as Amoria PQ... There's also 3 different versions of the PQ, probably because of level ranges and stuff. Should this PQ be added, since it's a one time thing? A single character can only go in one time and never return. --IsaacGS 15:43, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * It sounds like a PQ that could return yearly in July (assuming this holiday or whatever is always held in July). You might get to do it again, but only once a year. -- Takiten 16:51, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Is that a PQ or just a quest? The EMS website doesn't mention anything about the EMS exclusive PQ. - Wkkim9292 17:55, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * In Europe ppl call it Lith Harbor PQ, or Ria PQ. It is part of Event [French Revolution Day]. The Reward for it are 5,000 Experience and Three Coloured Hat (40 Def and ppl can wear it till 3rd of August).Vigilium 05:39, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Rock Paper Scissors
Is it still available in JMS and ThMS? Because KMS doesn't have it anymore. I checked it and it was gone a long time ago. - Wkkim9292 18:02, 5 July 2007 (CDT)
 * It's still available in ThMS~ -- PiPU 05:34, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * The last time I logged in to JMS it was still there. Unless they removed it with the patch that blocked Americans, it should still be in game.--IsaacGS 18:47, 6 July 2007 (CDT)

Helios Tower in ThailandMS
I have found out that even EuropeMS has Helios Tower. It is currently not known if ThailandMS has Helios Tower or not. I know that it doesn't lead Korean Folk Town in ThailandMS yet. Does Helios Tower exist in ThailandMS? - Wkkim9292 19:54, 6 July 2007 (CDT)
 * It doesn't exist. -- PiPU 09:57, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

NEW: ThailandMS exclusive maps "Siam"
It seem that ThailandMS is going to release their second exclusive map in their next patch 0.36

Patch 0.36 Preview Page

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 * Yeah, I already noticed. If you looked at the upload logs you'll see the monsters.--IsaacGS 16:48, 18 July 2007 (CDT)

-- Some info about "Siam" from ThailandMS GM... 1.Siam is the continent name, not a map name. 2.The boss is level 1xx. 3.Version 0.36 will patch in August before 2nd anniversary (August 16). -- PiPU 05:58, 22 July 2007 (CDT)
 * That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the clarification. Do you know what the town name will be? Also, I have seen that ThailandMS has Amoria's Purple Plains in the data. is that released? --IsaacGS 15:25, 22 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes, ThailandMS has Purple Plain.
 * --- Latest info...
 * 1.New town named "Peace Temple".
 * 2.Can go to "Peace Temple" by walking from Floating Market.
 * 3."Peace Temple" doesn't have free market.
 * 4.The monsters are level 60+. -- PiPU 04:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

The screenshots on the ThailandMS website show it's called "Golden Temple", but they still write "Peace Temple" in the notes on that page... So it could go either way I guess. I remember back when they showed pre-released Floating Market screenshots with it saying "Thai Floating Market" in the screenshots, then they ended up calling it "Floating Market" in the official release of it. Could just be a little mistake like when GlobalMS released "Mushroom Temple" instead of Mushroom Shrine. -- Takiten 22:56, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The MapleTV for MSEA said "Golden Temple", but I didn't put much stock into it because many of the names are wrong... Wonder which one it will be? I'm working on a way to DL ThaiMS now.--IsaacGS 23:01, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Well if it's already written in the data as Golden Temple, then that's probably the name it will be. Since they are also getting the new world maps, we can replace the Korean maps with English maps in the article, at least some of them. -- Takiten 23:09, 3 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Ugh. The proxy I had working earlier simply stopped working. After further investigation it seems that it was taken down... Unfortunate. However, through a little snooping I've discovered PiPU's site, which is up to date for Singapore .44, so I bet there will be updates for thaiMS .36-.37 soon. Once that happens I suppose I can get stats that way.--IsaacGS 00:03, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Anyone know if ThailandMS had Shalom Temple back in December? I've read several pages that ThailandMS had access to it this last year, at the same time GlobalMS had it. -- Takiten 01:33, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * No. Shalom Temple is "exclusive" to MapleGlobal.
 * Now, I prefer Golden Temple for the new map name lol, and I can't extract 0.36 data files because the file has password-protected. T^T (They will announce a password on 7~8th August)
 * ps. TaiwanMS has released fortune teller system since v0.41. ^^ -- PiPU 02:53, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * There is SO MUCH new data in .37! They have all of the monsters from Ariant, Mu Lung, Herb Town, Leafre, Taipei 101, Kaede Castle, monster carnival, Fake bosses, even that Golden Pig I just found in JMS. I dare say that this is probably the single most complete Mob.wz file that has ever existed. The only things that it's missing is Magatia, NLC, and Singapore. I'm so glad I've gotten a chance to look at this!--IsaacGS 16:52, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * There are tons of PVP monsters in the data too, should these be added to the monsters section? -- Takiten 20:23, 9 August 2007 (CDT) Actually there's just too many monsters here... There's even a bunch from PQ's that we haven't gotten to yet... -- Takiten 20:26, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I've got some info on the boss hat from the Evil Spirit Giant.
 * Three versions of the helm:
 * Level 50, +30 HP, +30 MP, Weapon DEF 45, Magic DEF 45, ACC +5, Avoid +5, untradeable and NPCs for 1 meso. I think 8 slots
 * Level 70, +40 HP, +40 MP, Weapon DEF 60, Magic DEF 60, STR +5, Luck +5, Dex +5, INT +5. I think 8 slots
 * Level 90, +60 HP, +60 MP, Weapon DEF 60, Magic DEF 60, STR +5, Luck +5, Dex +5, INT +5, ACC +10, Avoid +10, Speed +2, Jump +1. I think 9 slots

I don't know how you go about upgrading it. I also found a character transformation animation. It turns you into an Ariant-looking NPC with a spear. This is interesting, because to reach Horntail you transform into a Cornian, but most of the morph abilities are cash shop. Now they're becoming necessary "Disguises" to reach further into areas. Ariant has a lot more mysteries in it than we know about...--IsaacGS 00:07, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Maple island add-on
Me and IsaacGS want to add Maple island add-on to area table. We know that eMS, cMS, gMS and mSEA don't have it but what about jMS, tMS and twMS? -- Hurricane 08:49, 21 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Specifically, we're talking about the modifications that cause Pigs, stumps, and Slimes to spawn on Maple Island. I think there's other changes that go with it (additional quests, Green apples, etc.) so it's a rather major change. --IsaacGS 01:26, 21 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I thought that only KMS has add-on. Does other versions have it too? - Wkkim9292 17:23, 21 July 2007 (CDT)
 * So far it doesn't seem like it. I am downloading the latest version of the TaiwanMS client.--IsaacGS 18:48, 21 July 2007 (CDT)
 * ThailandMS doesn't have. ^^ -- PiPU 06:07, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

New Leaf City, a World Tour map?
I don't think it will be a world tour map, Since you have to take a 1 minute train ride from Kerning Subway. I haven't seen NLC yet in-game, but I think even though it may have real life cultural things thrown in, the town itself is not based on anything in the real world. I think NLC is just another MapleStory theme "original" kind of town. But I can still see NLC being released on other versions possibly, in the future, but not as a world tour... Anyway, Should NLC be listed under world tour or should it be listed under a new category? Coke Town, Amoria, Peach Blossom Island, and now New Leaf City are 4 towns that don't really belong to Victoria/Ossyria/World Tour regions at all. Amoria and PBI are based on Victoria so to speak, but they do not show up on the new (KMS) Victoria Island map. I was thinking we need a new category for towns that just don't go anywhere else. Either that or use a sub-region Victoria Island category for those 4 towns. -- Takiten 13:21, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Story-wise, Amoria is located on Victoria. Data wise it is not... New Leaf City, I don't know. I agree that the subway ride is a little weird, but there's also that subway ride to Taipei to consider...

This poses an interesting problem. I'm still checking out the data from this, there's a lot of odd things (like there's strings for an apparent boss monster.) so who knows. There's also a number of glitches (APQ is currently impossible to finish, from what I hear.) so there may be a follow up patch that could clear things up. --IsaacGS 13:27, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
 * About the Taipei 101 ride, it isn't really a ride... You just get transported to a map with 3 subway cars and you just walk through them... You don't have to wait for the ride to end or anything. So it's not the same as this. -- Takiten 13:29, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok Amoria I can understand being under Victoria... NLC should probably go under Victoria too, since there are some ties between NLC and Amoria right? -- Takiten 13:32, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Some of the NPCs are related, and there's some storyline interplay between the two towns, but story-wise Masteria is a totally separate continent. NLC is gonna be rather problematic. Maybe it does need its own section, at least for now. --IsaacGS 13:43, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh yeah, I forgot about the Masteria Continent name... Yeah I agree it should have it's own section... or maybe call it a Sub-Contient or Sub-Region of Victoria. It would make more sense to have it's own section especially if it ever gets any more towns. -- Takiten 13:53, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

I went ahead and did all the changing. We can always change it back if NLC turns out to be a world tour after all in the future. And I left it open by saying "currently only released in GMS" in case it turns out to not stay exclusive to GlobalMS. -- Takiten 00:38, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I guess that's all we can do for now. On a somewhat related note, i found tiles in GMS data called "Tile.City.SG", which seems to me to be from the MapleSEA exclusive map. Interesting. --IsaacGS 01:48, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I guess it is safe to say MapleSEA's map will be a world tour, even if it is not accessed by her in MapleSEA. But I imagine the map will be based off of real life singapore and or malaysia and released as a world tour on other versions. Masteria/NLC has it's own maple story-line while all the world tour maps are just... based off of real life culture/countries/cities. I'm beginning to think GlobalMS/EuropeMS won't be able to have a world tour map, since those versions service more than 2-3+ countries. Masteria/NLC is like the safe way to throw tons of culture into one and give it to GlobalMS and possibly other versions too. -- Takiten 08:20, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
 * Thinking about it, that even makes sense. Masteria even sounds like Victoria and Ossyria. I doubt that was coincidental. I still believe it will be released in other versions. The thing that seems to conflict with it being exactly the same in other versions is the various ties to Amoria. One of the NPCs is from Amoria, there will be cross-quests, and so on. Maybe Amoria will be combined with it in some way? or perhaps it will start replacing Peach Blossom? It could even be that they would just move NPCs from Amoria to NLC in future releases. --IsaacGS 17:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
 * And Amoria sounds like Victoria too. --Hurricane 8:54, 28 July 2007 (CDT)
 * I think PBI shud be listed under Victoria cos for SEA, the road names are Victoria Road. As for Amoria, it is reached by Thomas the Swift which is located in Henesys. That means that Amoria is around Victoria--Fideltan 00:14, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Ok... It already is on Victoria. What's the problem? IsaacGS 00:35, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I just want to tell you guys that these towns are under Victoria, do not change them--Fideltan 04:19, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

MapleSEA Singapore map.
Just as I figured... it is not a world tour area on MapleSEA. You take a plane ride from Kerning City to Singapore. Not known if the ride is an actual ride (IE like NLC's Subway Ride) or if you just get transported instantly... I have a feeling it will be an actual ride lol... So another prediciment... do we put Singapore under World tour or give it it's own section? -- Takiten 00:03, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Well, I guess this means we really have to wait. As soon as their patch is done, I plan on patching MSEA and going to explore it immediately, and I'll probably set up the extractor to run on a different computer while I'm playing to get both done at once. Seeing how good NLC is, i'm very curious about this place. --IsaacGS 00:12, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Finally, it is coming out. I am going to extract it after tomorrow's patch. Do you guys think that there is one town or two towns? By the way, I think that this map will come out as world tour in all the versions of MapleStory expect MapleSEA. What do you guys think? - Wkkim9292 02:46, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

This is the list of MapleSEA patch 0.44. I found out that GuildBBS is available in SEA now. But the thing that i am figuring is what is the kerning airport? i state kerning airport under kerning city. Is it ok to do that? And also why does the singapore's logo still not in the graph?

- Launched of our very own SG Exclusive Map!

- New Quests available in SG Exclusive Map!

- New Maps available in SG Exclusive Map!

- Introducing National Flag Weapon Quest.

- New Cash Item Giant Orchid available!

- New Cash Item Pet Jr. Balrog available!

- Guild BBS system added!

- Fortune Ticket system modified!

- Kerning Airport Added

- Other Cash Items added

- Other Bug fixes --Fideltan 06:56, 1 August 2007 (CDT)
 * About Kerning Airport, it's only one map and then the take off. It would be like listing the NLC subway as a separate area. I don't really think it needs to be on the chart, though maybe a transportation chart? Anyway, discussion on this is welcome.--IsaacGS 22:52, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Giant Tomato EuropeMS
I just saw this at SW.net it say it is in EuropeMS is it real or fake? GameSpot Images -- ★ ~MΛRXΘΓ~ ★  =]  Want to?|undefined/Wi-Fi Gaming|undefined 22:30, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I saw this earlier. It's apparently for the Spanish "La Tomatina" festival, an event monster that's not out yet. EMS has pretty neat events, though this boss thing we have right now is cool too. --IsaacGS 22:38, 2 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Oh, thanks I really like this boss LOL -- ★ ~MΛRXΘΓ~ ★  =]  Want to?|undefined/Wi-Fi Gaming|undefined 22:41, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

I searched for it in Maple Europe 0.27 mob.wz file and it is not there. I don't really know if the screenshots were done in Maple Europe. And one more thing: Maple Europe mob.wz file is much bigger than the one in Maple Global (about 30 megabites bigger)Vigilium 15:57, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The info is from Maple Europe site: La Tomatina
 * That means a patch for Maple Europe will be soon. I will try to get Europe mob.wz file and find the Tomato.Vigilium 02:55, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The event starts on the 16th, so that's probably when the patch will be. Aqua dungeon maybe? --IsaacGS 03:08, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

JapanMS's Amoria.
I was looking through the data, and found the mini-maps for Amoria in the latest patch. JapanMS is getting the Thai/Global version of Amoria instead of the Korean version. This could mean JapanMS will also eventually get Amoria Dungeon and Amoria PQ. -- Takiten 00:42, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * That seems likely, but I was browsing the mobs and didn't see Sakura Cellions or Indigo eyes or any of the Amoria monsters. Wish I could get JMS to install properly. --IsaacGS 00:53, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

JMS now has the Maple Island with slimes, pigs, and stumps too. Also I've read JMS has the new world maps, but I couldn't find them in the data. I looked under map.wz. -- Takiten 01:11, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * That's where the World Maps are located... Though it's pretty far down. Each map (at least this is how it was before) comes out in its own folder. --IsaacGS 01:14, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

So are we going to add jMS to the upgraded world maps? talking about this, are wre going to add Kerning Airport and the party leader changing system too?--Fideltan 23:59, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Still need a little confirmation on that. It would be safe to go ahead and add it though. Kerning airport is not a necessary addition, it's a single map with a sole purpose, and if a version has the airport they will also have Singapore, it seems unnecessary. Now, if at some point in the future, Kerning airport provided other destinations (Say, a 5 minute flight to Ludi?) then it would deserve its own section. Party leader changing, well I can see that going either way. I'll let someone else weigh in. --IsaacGS 03:11, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

(JMS now has the Maple Island with slimes, pigs, and stumps too. Also I've read JMS has the new world maps, but I couldn't find them in the data. I looked under map.wz.) from Takiten... What do you mean by that? What is the place called? How can you prove that?--Fideltan 04:16, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Party Leader Changing System
Does any version apart from KMS and ThMS has it? I think that JMS could have it. Does any other version have it? - Wkkim9292 01:33, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Definitely not in Global. I don't believe it's in SEA either. Taiwan and china are always hard to know, though. --IsaacGS 01:35, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * How about JMS or EMS? - Wkkim9292 01:40, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * It does not exist in EMS yet. Vigilium 02:35, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * This system is in KMS Ariant patch, then JMS would have it now. -- PiPU 03:05, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

A new tab - Event
I think we should add an "Event" tab to the tables that will include every event like "Franch revlution PQ or Halloween and so on". What do you think? Hurricane 14:46, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
 * There is a section for event monsters, and most of the events are either solely based around the monster, or principally based around it. There's also an event quest section... So what's left that would need a separate section? --IsaacGS 14:53, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

CMS Ariant
The CMS website doesn't show that CMS got Ariant. Where is the Patch Note which says that CMS got Ariant in this month's patch? - Wkkim9292 00:05, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I'll look around, but then again that Mu Lung picture didn't appear until a few weeks ago, and they got it a long time ago...--IsaacGS 00:26, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * So far, All I see mention of is level 200 skills, and 3rd anniversary. Still looking, though.--IsaacGS 00:44, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I looked at all the recent announcements (geez, CMS gets 3-4 website updates a day) and can't see any reference to Ariant. While it's the next logical thing for them to get, and it is believable, I can't find anything to back it up. i'm gonna contact the person who initially added it. --IsaacGS 01:00, 7 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Sorry, it was a mistake. I will fix it. Hurricane 06:17, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

What name?
Should we call the new thailand map as "Peace Temple" or "Golden Temple"? The MSEA maple tv says it is golden temple but many says is peace temple...--Fideltan 00:03, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Today, ThailandMS has released 0.37 full client. In the string file use "อารามแห่งความร่มรื่น (Peace Temple)" (They change thai item and map into thai language) instead of Golden Temple. -- PiPU 00:34, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Maybe we can call it "Peace Tample/Golden Tample" or "Peace/Golden Tample". Hurricane 07:55, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

PiPU, if you can, could you take some screenshots of the town and monkey forest + goblin caves? Also, is there a new mini-map icon? -- Takiten 11:29, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I think we should call it Golden Temple, since that is the english name of it that appears in the data. There have been other towns written in other language that ended up being different once translated to the English versions of maple, like "Earth Defence Headquarters" in KMS/JMS/CMS/TMS, while in the data for all those versions, the icon for it said "Omega Sector" in english. Chances are it will be called Golden Temple in MapleSEA/GlobalMS if those versions ever get it. -- Takiten 13:47, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I agree. I found out that they changed the road name to "Siam" for Floating market too, i've already updated the page. I'll see if I can find the icon now.--IsaacGS 14:02, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Speaking of road names, did ThailandMS get the new world maps? If so, did the road names get changed to reflect KMS's changes? All of Orbis should be under Sky Road now, all of El Nath, El Nath Mts./Mountains, ect... -- Takiten 19:40, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Yes, they did. Ludibrium now says "Ludibrium Castle" so I would assume that means all the others were changed as well. here's a link to the image showing it: --IsaacGS 20:33, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Wow, I was kind of skeptic about the road names being changed, since they didn't get changed in JMS. Now we just need to update all the screenshots with the new road names lol... or we could do what I did with the floating market picture, and just copy/pased the Siam road name into the pic. I hope GMS get's these new maps/road names soon too. -- Takiten 22:50, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Anyone against me changing all mentions of "Ludibrium" to "Ludibrium Castle"? I think that's probably going to be the new town name in the future for MSEA/GMS too. -- Takiten 22:53, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * It makes sense. Heck, I can even recall there being several Ludi quests where they referred to Ludibrium as a Castle, and to the King of Ludibrium, and even calling it the "Castle in the Sky". The new name makes more sense.--IsaacGS 23:04, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Here's some screenshot of new Thai map. The NPC in world-select screen show the official Thai map name. It's Peace Temple not Golden Temple like the screenshot from Thailand GM Test Server -- PiPU 03:25, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

I found all the new road names that were included in this patch. They didn't copy KMS exactly... Orbis, El Nath, and Aquarium still have the old road names, but Orbis/El Nath hunting grounds roads are changed. New Road Names: All Korean Folk Town, Leafre, Mu Lung, and Herb Town road names are unchanged, but will probably be changed once those towns are released. All Coke Town and hunting ground strings are now in English ("Hidden Street : Coke Town" is main map name), plus they added Korean Strings for Ariant and Monster Carnival. -- Takiten 10:04, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * El Nath Mountain Range (for all the hunting grounds, but forgot to change Icy Valley 1 and 2's road name though)
 * Dead Mine (from the beginning of level 50+ maps to the Entrance to Zakum Altar)
 * Sky Road (for all Orbis related hunting grounds)
 * Orbis Tower (all orbis tower maps)
 * Eos Tower (all eos tower maps, name error too "Eos Tower : EOS TOWER 101nd Floor" yes 101nd.)
 * Ludibrium Castle (main town map, and toy factory/terrace)
 * Ludibrium Town (for the village maps)
 * Lowest Floor of Clocktower (From Path of Time down)
 * Ludus Lake (All Omega Sector hunting grounds, and including main town map, and only the main town map for KFT was changed)

In-Game Music
Should we host a collection of in-game music? I have most (maybe all) of the bgm for Global, and can easily upload it here in the .ogg format, but I was wondering if/how we should do it. -- 16:28, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * It's interesting you should mention that. I was just helping someone ID and categorize every single BGM from every version just the other day. Seeing as how (now) one of these libraries exists already, I don't see a need to duplicate the content.--IsaacGS 16:55, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * The files can easily be taken directly from the data files. However, that might be cutting fair use a bit too close.  It also provides no gameplay benefit so I would have to say no. -- Prod (Talk) 16:57, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

A Map Link?
Should we create a map link like the one on http://sea.hidden-street.net/maps/vikerningcity.php? I know the website is not accurate.--Fideltan 20:57, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I'm working on making maps for the areas in MapleStory (for Global), but I can't figure out how to decipher the html table that says where everything goes. Any help with that would be great. -- 11:13, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

World Maps
I uploaded the English versions of the new world maps. While all of the world maps are currently present in ThaiMS's data, they're not all translated. The Victoria, Maple Island, and El Nath Mts are probably in their final form, but the Ludus Lake and Aqua Road maps are missing KFT's label. I also uploaded the untranslated Mureung Gardens and Minar Forest maps, mostly to get rid of the Sauna watermarks. The whole world map that's in ThaiMS's data doesn't have Magatia on it, so I held off on it. --IsaacGS 21:55, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I think you messed up Minar Forest... it shows Mureung Garden's now. About Magatia, does KMS's world map have Magatia on it? -- Takiten 22:44, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Ah nevermind, never noticed the world map on the page with Magatia on it. I reverted the Minar Forest to a previous version that doesn't have the water mark. Don't know if you have a better version or not though. -- Takiten 22:51, 9 August 2007 (CDT)
 * Oops, I did mess that up. Thanks for fixing it. The full world map that's up now was cropped out of a screenshot, the only problem with it is that I was standing in Magatia when I took it so it has the arrow pointing to where I am over top of Magatia.--IsaacGS 23:32, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

NPCs
Should we make a page with every NPC and write where he is and what quests does he give? Hurricane 01:47, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
 * This is something I've tried before and the idea has been brought up many times. It's pretty much been established that it's a lot of work for little effort... Though, I guess maybe if we only uploaded the ones used for quests and put them next to each quest they're for, that would be OK. I'll see what other people think of this.--IsaacGS 02:19, 11 August 2007 (CDT)
 * I think uploading NPCs next to quests they're for is a better idea than creating whole page just for NPCs. In the quests is info where to find a NPC. Vigilium 02:51, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

Maple Island extension
Is there really a Maple Island extension with pigs and slimes and.....? If it is real, why is there no info? Where do you guys heard it from?--Fideltan 05:15, 11 August 2007 (CDT)