User talk:Najzere/Talk page archive 201–300

Etymology of an arbitrary name
I've been opposed to this statement, although it doesn't really matter. You may or may not have paid attention its content, but what do you think? -- 07:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what the poster is talking about, so I can't comment on whether it's legit or not. If "Boylover" is notable for having invented a move, then I guess it's all right, although even if it is, it seems unnecessary. It seems like mentioning Billy Mitchell in a King Kong article or something. I figured since you've been reverting it you may know something about the game. — najzere T 07:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex.
Well I've setup this game for the Wii but I still couldn't figure out a solution, because of the name change, the content is almost the same with Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare with minor changes to it. I've already mentioned the titles, with or without semicolons and I doubt it would work the same if you move or merge it which I will think over. If you have a solution, give it a try and see if it works. Johnnyauau2000 09:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I transcluded the Table of Contents for now, but I'm pretty sure we can get rid of the Reflex page and just note that as the name that's used on the Wii version on the Modern Warfare page. — najzere T 09:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I would get a boxart image but that would be watermarked. Instead I'll clear the way for the Wii controls to be integrated into the pages already made by editors before I came along. Johnnyauau2000 09:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Main page story sections
Since when has the story section been deprecated? I don't remember the discussion. -- 08:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think there was a discussion. It's one of those creeping changes that insinuates itself throughout the wiki over time. The front page section headings are mainly found on the older guides and I don't think even Procyon uses them much anymore, although his main pages don't seem to follow any set pattern. — najzere T 16:49, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because Procyon fails to follow a standard doesn't mean we should follow him. This isn't something that just goes away; we debated upon the main page layout for like two months. It's important that we remain the same way. The only person that I've seen remove the story sections is you, Naj. -- 19:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't saying we should follow any one specific person (although Procyon probably creates 85% of the main pages around here), but rather update the guide to reflect the newest standards in use throughout the wiki. Of course I'm the only one that removes them – I'm the only one doing a lot of cleanup tasks. I'm not the only one that doesn't use them when creating a main page however, which is the point. Just like tons of other things I've had to update in the guide, story headings seem to be a legacy from several years ago. — najzere T 19:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that things have changed (e.g. gameplay information is sometimes included below the continue nav), but the fact is, if a story section is on the main page, then a header is required for organization's sake. Just like a block of text in a walkthrough, the main page is laid out to be clearly separated. -- 19:51, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's certainly not a fact that headings are required for organization's sake, since plenty of guides are doing quite well without the headings. Using them is simply for standardization's sake, and that's respectable enough, except that the standards have changed. In the past when new guidelines have evolved, we've updated the guide to reflect that, and I don't see why this one should be any different. — najzere T 20:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this change occurred because of our awareness of the negative effect of white space. -- 20:49, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, think of how much whitespace we'll be getting rid of if we can get Prod to let us have the collapsible infobox fields! — najzere T 20:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think it's important for some games. The issue with the headers is that it they don't always line up efficiently with the infobox. I think we should have a more formal voting process for small issues like these that don't require bureaucrat privileges to put in place. Procyon suggested VfD. -- 21:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

From what I remember, there was never a discussion about whether or not a heading was required. However, Story sections are allowed on the main page, as long as they don't go into too much detail and become spoilers. They can also be on the walkthrough page as an introduction to the guide. -- Prod (Talk) 01:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)