StrategyWiki:Staff lounge/2009/January

Guide watching
How do I put every page in a guide on my watchlist? I've done it before but I don't remember how :) Baejung92  (talk) 02:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Special:Watchsubpages --Vizeroth 02:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Baejung92  (talk) 02:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Article Tags
Is there a list of article tags that can be put on top of pages?

Such as Wikify, Delete, Drivel, etc...??

I've looked for a list of these, but can't find it.

Thanks.


 * Category:Header box templates  Pro cyon  18:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

New external links
What's with this thing that comes up sometimes if I try creating a page? For example, I just created Fashion Dogz and it told me that the page had 'new external links' but I didn't add any websites to that page. What's going on, because it never used to do that before. -- Me lon  2  4  7  17:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was an issue with some of our configuration changes that should have only affected new accounts, but ended up affecting every account instead. This issue has since been resolved, so you shouldn't have to worry about seeing any more captchas. -- 03:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Game Naming
What is the site policy for games that have different names in different countries? Such as a game that has a different name in Europe than it does in the USA? For example, the game page for Fashion Dogz was recently created. This is the Europe name for this game. In the USA, it is called Petz: Dogz Fashion. Which name do we give it here on Strategy Wiki? Or is it just whichever one is created first? Please elaborate on the policy for this.

Also, I have the same question for Box Art. Do we put the Europe box art, USA box art, or both?? Thanks. - --louie55 03:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Whichever one was created first, and then create the other names as redirects to that page, see here for the part of our Guide concerning that. As for the boxart, pick the one that corresponds to the name of the page and put the others in a &lt;gallery&gt; tag on the guide's main page. -- 03:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool, so I did it right for Ace Combat =D --Arrow Windwhistler (talk) 05:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't the title be for the version the walkthrough is about? So, if there were version differences or something in a UK version of a game to a US version, people wouldn't be confused. Such as if someone in the US had written the Dog's Life guide and (although it doesn't) it had a different title in the US or something, and that was the UK name and used here, and they put something about the fence around the park. Then people would go to the park and see that there was no fence there.-- Me lon  2  4  7  15:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Melon, if there are any major differences between versions they should be noted within the guide. If the game is drastically different, then we'll need to split the game into two guides.  But, yes, the guide should be named based off the version if there is more than one.  Usually, the guide will be written for both the UK and US versions, and so there is no need for multiple names.  Edit:  Oops!  Thanks!-- Duke  Ruckley Talk 19:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, and by the way you forgot to sign.-- Me lon  2  4  7  15:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Uncategorized Pages
Today, I was browsing the cleanup project and clicked on the Uncategorized main pages link and their was a page listed there (The page has since been deleted by Najzere so I can't link to it). I had to add   to the page to get it off of the Uncategorized list. Now I see that 2 more pages are listed there that were created today. Why are these pages showing up here? Shouldn't they automatically be put in the Sub-pages category?? Or am I missing something?? --louie55 01:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit: Ok, Najzere answered my question. It is because a header nav was not present. Since I added a header nav at the same time as adding it to Sub-pages, I didn't notice that just a header nav would fix it. Sorry for wasting space here. --louie55 01:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Adverts
Why do we need all these adverts above and beside the site? Because sometimes the ones at the top cover up some of the links on the right-hand side, and once I was doing something and accidentally clicked on the advert at the side and lost all the work I'd been doing and had to start again. Or are those adverts just randomly there and nothing we can do to get rid of them? -- Me lon  2  4  7  14:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The adverts are there so that we can get a source of income to fund various projects we're thinking of implementing (such as guide bounties). Since the advertisements themselves are through GamerDNA, I believe that we need to contact them to remove any offending ads, so could you please paste a screenshot and link to the ad in question so that we can formulate something to send to them. Also, you may want to consider getting an addon for your browser that allows you to block ads if you do not wish to view them. -- 15:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, they're not really offending- more annoying really. I guess the easiest thing for me to do is to just try and ignore them. -- Me lon  2  4  7  17:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It's because your resolutions is small. Anything smaller than 1280x960 will have this problem, as we don't have the site coded to stretch with the size of the horizontal advertisement (which is something we could look into fixing). -- 22:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Citing sources
I went through and changed all the Template:ref and Template:note usages to reflist since the former are in the deprecated templates category. Can we delete those templates now? Also, what's up with citing sources on the page itself? Is that still the way it's done? There are a bunch of pages that reference individuals or sites who found cheat codes, for instance. Can we move these to the talk page or are they meant to be on the article page? - naj zere 09:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Game Selector
How would we create one if there isn't one already? I mean like creating something like the control selector we have, but for choosing stuff in different games. Like in Petz: Dogz 2 and Catz 2, if we had one of those templates then I wouldn't have to keep putting (for example) 'Godfrey is a Scottish Terrier or Somali' and I cuold just put Scottish Terrier for if dogz was selected and Somali for if Catz was selected. -- Me lon  2  4  7  18:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've thought about this as well, changing it from a controller selector to just a more generic anything selector. Default would still be controller, but perhaps you could change the title to say whatever you wanted like "Version Selector" or "Game Selector." And maybe a more generic image for non-controller oriented ones, like arrows pointing in two directions or something. - naj zere 20:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

help on Little Fighter 2 and AdventureQuest Worlds guide
I have just started a new guide on the guide on Little Fighter 2 and AdventureQuest Worlds. I eddited a lot on the AQWorlds page so i got one box in the square. I still need a lot of help cause my computer is limited to .org sites. (that's why i can do this site)

I suddenly realized that there was no Little Fighter 2 guide so i decided to make one. I don't have a lot of time but i really want to help to increase StrategyWiki's library of games. Please, I really need a lot of help

You can either reply here, on my talk page (i will make a section for it), or make a discussion on the game's dicussion page.

-May you days be filled with adventure Jakcer (Talk) 05:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Series images
Hey, what do you guys think of ? - naj zere 17:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that'd be good for images that could be re-used for other guides in the series.--Vizeroth 21:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

najzere is abusing his sysop power
I've been authoring some new pages. Specifically Mount&Blade/Companion Comparison and Mount&Blade/Companion Builds. Builds is still a mess but I was working on it. Also possbily some edits to Mount&Blade/Companions At first he was helpful and I took his critizisims as constructive and reworked the page. Discussions of the issues can be found at Talk:Mount&Blade/Companion Comparison and User talk:Gumption I needed to move a large table down the page so that the advertisment wouldn't cover it up. I realize this was a cludge but it was a working cludge. He removed the whitespace making the data unreadable. Since the data was unreadable I reversed his edit. This is was just the author of the page rejecting an edit by another user. an edit that does not work and hides the data. Before I could even finish writing up the reasons for my rejection on the discussion page he had locked the page and reinstated the broken edit. This is completely overhanded and abusive. I'm a firm believer in wiki and as a software developer I have setup mediawiki sites at work and been an advid user but it seems that the community here is very controlling and not very nurturing to new authors. --Gumption 06:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

That's funny. I thought najzere is doing a good job. I do have problems of my own but not as severe as his. Let's start off with this: Have you left it on najzere discussion page about your problems and how does he "lock" the page? After all, this is a learning process and I'm always interested in how editors solve their problems. Take your time and answer on this page soon. Johnnyauau2000 06:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Najzere has been good so far and learns quickly/corrects any mistakes he makes. Both of you have been doing good work so far, so please do keep it up.  We're in general nurturing to most authors, but most authors don't test the limits of the site ;).  Lets stick to discussing the technical restrictions and work together to find a solution. -- Prod (Talk) 06:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologize for protecting the page, I did so in error. As I've said on the Companion Comparis talk page, Prod has informed me of the policy, and I won't make that mistake again. However, there is really no reason embellish your claims, as the edit histories for both the page in question and its talk page do not lie. It would behoove you to just stick to the facts and try to explain your position rationally. The staff here is more than capable of ascertaining that I removed the whitespace three times before locking the page, and did so after you had posted on the talk page.


 * Your attitude so far has been mildly belligerent, and you seem to feel you are warranted some sort of special privilege or respect, perhaps because you are a software developer or a veteran MediaWiki user. However, as you should well know, you don't own any of the pages you "author," and anyone is free to edit them. You would do well to stick around for a while and "learn the ropes," as every wiki is somewhat different. Escalating discussions, or taking automatic uncompromising stances, like your position on using the Show preview button, aren't conducive to collaborative editing. I suggest you just put this behind you, as the page is now unprotected and I've split the tables up. We're now free to do what we all came here to do, which is to make great game guides. - naj zere 06:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

That's ok. I'm just curious because sometimes problems can also be unusual, I mean it will take me a while to learn how to make a table, but not to the extent that it has to be perfect. I did put on my user page that I won't be editing until February so I can get the stress out of my head. Anyway, just be careful not to end up punshing people to death or crossing the line just to get you're point across. From a general perspective even though I'm not involved with Gumption, the problem should be easily solved. So take it easy ok najzere? Thanks. Johnnyauau2000 10:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you all need to calm down. Take a deep breath. And for goodness sake stop getting annoyed with each other. -- Me lon  2  4  7  14:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sometimes people get carried away all the way around, or people misconstrue what's written simply because it is written (and many times we all write in a manner similar to the way in which we speak, without the benefit of the clues we give in our speech to what we really mean). From the referenced discussion pages, it would seem most of this has come to a decent end, but I just thought I'd add that sometimes it helps to take a step back and let it sit for a while before adding more comments to the mess. I've had times when I've been frustrated by things around here, and come back later only to find that I was just taking things the wrong way, or getting ahead of myself. I'm sure it happens to everyone once in a while --~ Viz eroth  ( contr  ibs )~-- 05:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)