StrategyWiki:Staff lounge/2008/July

Placing a non-framed image within the caption of a framed image
This is a tricky one. Each 'microgame' in the WarioWare: Touched! walkthrough has an image to the left with a caption. The caption is a copy of the brief onscreen text that appears in the game to give you a hint as to what to do. Some games ask you to blow into the microphone, and have a mouth icon as part of the text. I have attempted to add that mouth icon to the text as in WarioWare:_Touched!/9-Volt_%26_18-Volt but unfortunately the mouth icon gains a frame, which I don't really want. The Image tag for the mouth doesn't contain a 'frame' parameter, but it seems to be inheriting the frame border from the parent image. Any ideas? Maybe we need an explicit 'noframe' option? --Pelago 17:05, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
 * The way around this is to paste the full image URL, which is automatically turned into an image. I've fixed the one you linked to so you can see how it works. GarrettTalk 17:24, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
 * I'm not sure if this justifies a template, but I'm thinking about it. -- 19:03, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
 * This bug has been fixed in the latest version of MediaWiki, so a template won't be needed. -- 20:42, 4 July 2008 (CDT)
 * I thought I would look into this again since the Aug 31 upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13. Looking at the revision of the page (http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=WarioWare:_Touched!/9-Volt_%26_18-Volt&oldid=286744#Donkey_Kong_3) with the nicer source code, the mouth icon still has the unwanted frame, so it doesn't seem that MediaWiki 1.13 fixes this. For the time being, the workaround with the full image URL is ok, just not an elegant solution. --Pelago 22:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless there's a way to remove the border with CSS, I don't think we can remedy this without using the actual URLs (which I don't see as a problem). -- 22:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Using the full URLs isn't elegant if you ever want to rename the site, or change the directory structure within the site, or if anyone wants to copy the content to another wiki.--Pelago 20:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone who cares about the guide will update it as needed. Also, there's only like 3 uses of the blow image anyways; were you planning on adding many more? -- 21:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Aliens versus Predator (PC)
Please restore this. The deletion edit summary is false as this is not the same as the SNES game that was moved to Aliens versus Predator. Here's what was written in the PC guide. Vikrant AP 15:28, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
 * SNES version is at Alien vs Predator, Arcade version is at Alien vs. Predator, PC version is at Aliens versus Predator. Everything is where it should be. -- Prod (Talk) 16:52, 5 July 2008 (CDT)
 * But why are the brackets removed. Vikrant AP 23:25, 6 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Our policy is that a game must always go by its proper name unless another game has taken it. -- Prod (Talk) 00:37, 7 July 2008 (CDT)

All requested guides done
What next? archive their list? Vikrant AP 01:31, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
 * I would think that it should only be moved to a new section once it reaches at least cs2, to show that it was completed. I don't think archival is necessary, and anything older than 6 months should simply be removed. -- Prod (Talk) 01:38, 7 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Maybe we should split the page into completion stages for requested guides? -- 15:50, 8 July 2008 (CDT)

Guitar Hero 3
This article has a great potential and could be worth it. Still I'm not good enough to even make a guitar template. It will be an interesting concept that would give it more value so a guitar template is worth it but it will cost time. So if there are anyone willing to help me with Guitar Hero 3 than I'm completely satisfied. Why? I'm always trying to find new things to do and find a spot where my skills are at its best. I know its editors paradise but there's nothing wrong about improving the article in a better way. So take your time and if you're ready to help than I will be thankful. Johnnyauau2000 06:35, 17 July 2008 (CDT)
 * What sort of guitar template? What do you want it to do? -- 17:03, 17 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Well, if you're not familiar with it, I suggest you to get the game with the guitar, try out the guitar and find someone to make an image template or if it's too much, a picture of an electronic wireless guitar with labels there so it will appeal to newcomers who wants to know what that symbol does. I'm a little excited about it so if you can, make an image template on the electronic guitar buttons of use a picture of the electronic wireless guitar with labels is good enough. It will cost time but an image expert would be able to do it with ease. Johnnyauau2000 21:36, 17 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Yeah I've beaten Guitar Hero 2 on expert. So you just want a button template like gc and xbox? -- 00:13, 18 July 2008 (CDT)
 * That's exactly right. That's what I'm talking about. My best estimate that it will take a week to make a button template like gamecube and xbox. By the way, what console do you own? I own the Nintendo Wii and my little brother has the Playstation 2. Johnnyauau2000 08:48, 18 July 2008 (CDT)
 * The template wouldn't take long to make (just copy the code from one of the others) - the images are what take a long time to make. Right now I have a GameCube, a PS2, a PS without cables, a Dreamcast, an N64, a SNES, and a Sega Genesis. I have guitar hero 1 in my possession, but no guitar. -- 14:18, 18 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Great! Put it on my talk page if it's ready. I'll continue to expand the areas around Guitar Hero 3 and maybe revise the predecessors and add more depth so they're not just looking at an ordinary article. I'll still use it as my training ground so please help me improve the article. Johnnyauau2000 04:38, 19 July 2008 (CDT)
 * One more thing, don't forget to have an image of the whole guitar or else it will be harder for me to explain how to use the star power. Don't forget that. Johnnyauau2000 10:40, 19 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Sometimes words do a better job than images. Star power would be one of those cases. Since we like to limit the size of inline images to be 24 pixels tall so the text doesn't look weird, there simply wouldn't be enough space to show how to use star power in an image. Describing it in words would probably be better. -- 10:58, 19 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Ok. I'll do that instead. If you have anymore advice, let me know. Johnnyauau2000 23:38, 19 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Remember that you can use Star Power with the select button, however I think a large image of a guitar being tilted would be fitting for the getting started page. I'm driving 1300 miles across the country starting Monday, so I won't be able to help with this until next weekend.  Btw, the template is guitar. -- 03:15, 20 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Ok. In the meantime, if Prod is available, he can help me provide more background info for the main part of the article because as political correction goes, no one want to know what Guitar Hero 3 is about. They have to go the pages to see how it works. In reality, that practice could be the reason why they want no one to read it but that's just me. If anyone else wants to get involved than don't hesitate to help. Johnnyauau2000 04:23, 21 July 2008 (CDT)

Undoing bad edits
A recent edit to Master_of_Orion_II by an Anon is nonsense - the proposed strategy involves waiting for a very late game tech, and a half-competent opponent won't let the game get that far; and there are other defects. On Wikipedia I'd undo the edit and explain why on the article's Talk page, but articles here don't have Talk pages. So what's the etiquette for this type of situation? -- Philcha 08:41, 27 July 2008 (CDT)
 * Discussion link in the toolbox is the talk page. You can use either the one for the specific page, or the talk page for the main guide.  -- Prod (Talk) 11:07, 27 July 2008 (CDT)
 * So yes, we do have talk pages and yes, use the same etiquette as Wikipedia. -- 14:20, 27 July 2008 (CDT)