User talk:Notmyhandle

Dungeon Floor Plan
I was planning on putting something like that up. Would it be best to have a map like in Link to The Past, or a small map in Oracle of Ages? There are game and dungeon maps done by TerraEsperZ I can put up. Of course, he gets the credit. Snake's Remains will be slightly tricker, because it's split into two parts. I'm looking forward to pushing this guide up to Stage 2 soon. --|Superpowered  Mario  19:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded the Hero's Cave map. It's overall size is quite big, but the scale it goes by is exact. I didn't want to tamper with it that much and throw it off. It's technically not a real dungeon, so I wouldn't worry about it. For Gnarled Root Dungeon, the map marks the items and staircases. The only enemies on it are the miniboss and boss, but it's to show keys in the dungeon. That one will be up momentairly.  --|Superpowered   Mario 

Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance.
I'm beginning to like working on this article. I feel like much at home now. Well, don't want to sound nasty but I do regret The Legend of Zelda The Windwaker last year, I was actually too stressed to work on the guide because of Christmas and Boxing Day so sorry about it.

Besides the screenshots which is my weakness, its actually the walkthrough which I admit is the hardest to do and I need some advice on that very part because I'm still thinking about it whether I should do it or not. When you write like a fresh walkthrough, what pointers should I use when I'm writing it? It might not be easy to understand but maybe it helps to learn more tricks of the trade as times are changing. So take your time and hope for the best. Johnnyauau2000 10:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. When you're stress free knowing that you have fun with that game, I hope we can work together but since the weekend is coming, for now I'll try to compile available info like faqs, official websites etc, as long as its reliable. You should continue on cleaning up articles and whenever you're ready, you can help me on this article.

Not to spoil anything but I almost finish the game with Adrianna but I got so caught up with importing that I accidentally save over my life with my brothers file so that's something I like to laugh at. So I'll play the game again on the weekend and do my best to compile the info. Even though it's still not time to put collaberation of the month, I at least enjoy that I'm no longer alone. I hope DrBob isn't busy but thank you very much. Johnnyauau2000 07:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Lastly, go for it. If you love this game although I don't know what console you own but go for it. Go out there and buy the game. Johnnyauau2000 07:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey! How you are doing? I just wanna let you know that, it's pretty funny. I start off as Vahn and because of the strength and dexterity, I manage to blow through the story up to Act 3. The funniest thing is every act of every level comes in threes. Might not be true at first but that's the pattern. Anyway, I think I'm close to finishing the game. But it will be a while longer because I also want to play as Kromlech, Adrianna and Drizzt so I might not be able to edit for a while. Anyway, if you are playing the game, let me know how you go and what character are you playing. Johnnyauau2000 05:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The Gauntlet is pretty hard for me so I decided a safe and time consuming way of finishing that mode to get extreme mode. I'd say I had to reach for the buttons to make the cheat work. I mean you need a big hand to go for the invincible cheat which I shouldn't do but I was frustrated at that point. I'm halfway finishing the game with Kromlech and found only the dwarfs interaction to be different to the other main characters. Anyway, so much for not having a diary! I'll be ready to write a walkthrough and see what methods each character has to use. It will be a few more days. Keep in touch. Johnnyauau2000 03:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Geez, I thought you are still busy cleaning up other articles. Well, I do like to think a lot anyway. Judging by the pages you did, I believe you did play that game. After all been along time since you ever did a walkthrough and I like to compliment you on it. So keep up the good work and if you need help, send me a message and I'll do it. I thought I'm going to have nightmares again but maybe soon I'll have a solo chance on a walkthrough when I'm brave enough. Johnnyauau2000 06:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

One last thing. I'm curious about the stages. Like stages 1 to stages 4. What are they and how do these work? What's the requirement for going upstage if I put it that way? Put a link to it if you are too busy to answer it. I'll see how it goes. Johnnyauau2000 06:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No that's not what I mean! Each game article has stages. What examples could I give you? Medal of Honor Frontline is stage 4 which means the game article is completed in its highest degree. This game starts at stage 0 which means it's starts at the basic stage and it will take a ton of time until it reaches stage 4. In other words, if you check on the bottom of the main article title with the boxart which has category links, you might understand what I mean. Johnnyauau2000 07:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Not to shatter any illusions but this game is also made by High Voltage Software. I wonder if it's too late to add it? I mean yes this game is made by Snowblind Studios but how should I put it? Any game you start, the developers or publishers logo or both comes at the beginning before you go to a menu of the game. By the end of June, this company would finish The Conduit which is a sci-fi shooting game made for the Wii. So if you think it's a good idea, you can put it in. If not than that's ok. Johnnyauau2000 07:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Romanization
Sure, I could provide the Japanese names of monsters, but I need to know one thing. Which system of romanization does the Strategy Wiki prefer? Vigilium 11:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

my cheats
they are my cheats so im referencing myself
 * well if that is true why do you bother having any references?

then why does The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Cheats have references then?
 * then maybe you should delete Guide/References?
 * Also, when adding information, make sure that you have tested the info out yourself and if you haven't personally tried a method recommended in a non-StrategyWiki guide, at least cross reference it (if possible) with other guides. Guide/Researching more information

so that page disagrees with you, and so do I.

you are not obeying Guide/Researching more information by deleting all those, what are these new standards then?Billybob 21:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

my problem? I don't have one, but strategywiki does; you are saying things have changed, but the current help pages say otherwise. so what if it's not written by an admin? it's still linked from the main help page. if they are wrong, why are they still linked from the main help page?Billybob 22:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

and i also dont appreciate you saying your going to ban me after i was simply following the format of the page and your current help pages. how unwelcome do you want me to feel?Billybob 22:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox ToC
Hey, I think the double-column layout should be replaced in favor of single column due to the whitespace it creates when only one is expanded and the unevenness between the two when both are expanded. For future ToCs (if it turns out we can do collapsible elements in there), we might want to think about using tables instead of divs to cure some of these problems. If rows were collapsible/expandable, we wouldn't have the unevenness problems. — najzere T 16:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

MS Data Files
I spent the weekend updating my extractor to handle most of the new GMS encryption. Still can't handle everything (as shown by some of the missing descriptions), but it does a fair amount. I didn't have the chance to test images yet, but I'll try it out on the weekend. -- Prod (Talk) 05:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I finished updating my extractor to now handle all strings, images, and music. I will have to do a full extract sometime to check that I'm not missing anything, but I'm not sure I want to put my computer through that.  Next up is a map renderer, but I'm not sure if I'll get around to that this month. -- Prod (Talk) 06:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:MapleStory/Claw
Hello! I have a problem with the template. The new JapanMS claw (Exiled Lampion) has got the same icon as Night Raven's Claw. I tried to use the Alternate Picture parameter but I don't know how does it work. Vigilium 18:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Something's really weird with that template, but I don't know what it is. For some reason it's treating the pipe in the image link as a new cell divider, even though it's not on a separate line. For now you'll have to use 10=filename.ext to make it work. The same goes for changing the image size (11=imagesizepx). — najzere T 19:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sentence case
You recently left a rather uninformed message on a user's talk page about the proper capitalization of lines in the form of: You said that the word immediately after the colon should not be capitalized as it is part of a sentence, but this is incorrect. The way we use bolding in lists such as these is as a mini-heading and in most cases a complete sentence cannot be made with or without the colon. For instance, from MapleStory/Towns/Crimsonwood Keep: As you can see, "Availability only available in GlobalMS" is not a valid sentence, and not capitalizing "only" won't make it so. In fact, I'm of the opinion that since these are more often than not, not sentences, the word immediately following the colon should be capitalized, and this is how I form lists of this nature all the time. Just like headings and page names which use "sentence case", this same formatting should be applied to the list item following its bolded heading. If you prefer lowercase for some reason, that's fine, as it is more of a style issue, but I'd suggest you don't mislead other editors or change an existing style on a page in an effort to adhere to an inaccurate grammatical rule. — najzere T 21:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Something: Something about it.
 * Availability: only available in GlobalMS
 * Firstly, nowhere on the Crimsonwood Keep page does the exact string "only available in GlobalMS" appear (it appears as "Availability: only GlobalMS."). Secondly, I agree with you, I used to do it that way (back in '07) until others made the "sentence case" policy more stringent, at which time the colon represented a continuation rather than a separation between the list topic (bolded term) and the proceeding information. I find it justified either way (one standard, and one jerry-rigged), but perhaps we should change things back to the old, normal way. -- 15:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right, that quote was copied from a diff in Spadow's user contributions, so it must have been changed since then. At any rate, I've been thinking a good deal about creating a manual of style for the wiki, and I've only been stopped by not having worked up the stomach to face the inevitable resistance I'd meet. I've been asked recently by an editor where they can find our manual of style, and I've noted that there is not an entirely uniform application of existing styles by users or administrators, so I do think it would be helpful. If we could come to a consensus (a tall order, I know) about how to manage lists, tables, quotes, bolding, italics, dates, etc., it would make for a good reference for all editors, give us criteria on which to judge future Featured Guide nominees and help us (admins) dispense the same information when helping users. Of course this goes against the laissez-faire attitude I've largely encountered here, but someday I might start a serious campaign for it. — najzere T 16:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem is that we need to find evidence (a manual for English grammar) before being able to justify one policy decision over another. I've briefly tried finding info on the colon issue brought up above, but it's difficult without having some sort of accurate term to use in a search. -- 16:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a pretty minor issue, but it seems to represent a more widespread problem across SW. I think that Naj is right that we need some sort of Manual of Style.  On the one hand, I like being able to write the way I like (for example, I prefer headings and subheadings to be like book titles, capitalizing most important words rather than sentence style like we have it).  But on the other hand, if we're going to have more stringent policies in one case and not in another, something needs to change.  I think a Manual of Style would be a good addition and Naj, if you want to go for it, I'll support you.  In this specific case, I tend to agree with Naj's perspective on the capitalization.  If that's how it used to be and something changed, I'd say it needs to go back.-- Duke  Ruckley Talk 19:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * @Notmyhandle: We can largely borrow from Wikipedia's Manual of Style, although they go into greater consideration than I think we ought to. Our manual of style would be useful to catalogue common styles found throughout the wiki and to which we could add any further issues as they come up, such as formatting a bulleted list and whatnot. Though Wikipedia doesn't have a guideline for our particular case of using colons with bolded list items, it can be inferred that the rule for complete sentences wouldn't apply to fragments like ours.
 * @Dukeruckley: I can't say where we got the idea to do sentence case (from Wikipedia I suppose?), and it's always seemed awkward to me as well, though I'm by now very used to it. I'm not overly concerned with what exactly is the style guideline so much as that we have one everyone can use consistently, but I do prefer the use of correct grammar and, whenever possible, to agree with Wikipedia's styles.
 * — najzere T 20:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe DrBob is the primary proponent of sentence case, but I'd like to hear from the other bureaucrats (primarily because they might have logs of the discussion) before implementing a "new" and official standard. As far as I remember, the main reason sentence case came into play was with headers. I originally argued for camel case headers ("The Dog Sat"). -- 00:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Dracula disambiguation page
Hi, could you look at Dracula (disambiguation) and fix any of the Bram Stoker's Dracula links? Also while you're in there, what are your thoughts on the Castlevania section? Just link to the category? Just use the blue links that are actual page names? — najzere T 06:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Now that I've added a link to the category, I think the Castlevania section is acceptable. -- 15:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

CV needs moar redirects
lol, just kidding around, but in all seriousness, at least one of the multiple Japanese name redirects that you added should be a fully categorized redirect, in that it is the official title of the game as it is known in Japan, and should therefore show up in and  and any other pertinent console cats. Would you agree?  Pro cyon  16:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahah yeah I was all psyched about redirecting all of those combinations. Hm... I didn't redirect most of the actual Japanese titles. Oh well, someone who is deeply interested in those games will do it when the guides are complete. But seriously, as per our policy, yes I agree. Unfortunately, when I was making those pages as well as writing this message, instructions for categorizing redirects didn't exist. I've added it to Guide/Categorization. -- 22:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Question: which do we choose for Castlevania: The Adventure? Obviously, "Legend of Dracula" should be a redirect with cats (assuming that is the European regionalization). But what about "Dracula Densetsu"? Since the game's box art prints "ドラキュラ伝説", we should use the straight Japanese name as the catted redirect, right? -- 06:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry NMH, missed this response. I would put the cats on the untranslated romanji title.  So Dracula Densetsu would get them and Legend of Dracula would simply be a redirect.  In theory, we would only categorize names of games that actually came out.  No game ever actually received the title "Legend of Dracula".  Pro  cyon  02:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Hunted house
Well, last year every version except GMS got the Haunted Mansion. This year it could happend that they will get the hunted house, but for now we cant know that...

Good call
I did notice I dropped a ton of images in that particular section of OOT. They depict the main event of the game, so it's fair to have a few, but I did it again and depicted every detail. I got a little crazy with contributions this time. I'll pull back my image uploads for a while until I can figure out a good image limit for each section.

--|Superpowered  Mario  19:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit counter
I've written a python script to generate them for me. -- Prod (Talk) 17:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Find me on IRC and we'll chat. -- Prod (Talk) 03:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Adding a new area to a template
Hi. I don't know how to add an area to Template:MapleStory/Versions/Areas. I want to add Neo City between Minar Forest and Mu Lung Garden. But I don't know how.--Spadow 18:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a suggestion, check it here.--Spadow 19:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

GunZ The Duel
Hey, what's up with these reverts? Is this drivel? I think you might want to leave the IP a message, 'cause it looks like he may need to be blocked. — najzere T 07:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, yeah it's drivel. I haven't warned him because I thought it was negligible until this third time. -- 07:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, are we having simultaneous conversations on two different talk pages? :P Anyway, I'd just as soon leave it up to you. — najzere T 07:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Torchlight Enemies
Hi Notmyhandle,

I think combining the enemy appendix with the walkthrough would be a great idea. It would make more sense for the enemy appendices to be where their respective dungeon pages are. I actually don't own the game; I just added information based on my prior knowledge from playing the demo, but when I do get the game I'll add more information wherever I can.--Poulin91 13:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Unable to remove background
I've just recently uploaded a image of the Longshot from OOT, but I can't remove the background behind it. I've ran into a bit of a snag, and I can't put this image up on the guide to replace the other one yet. Since you helped fix the Fairy Ocarina, I thought you could get this one straightened out.

This is the image link. (I don't want to put in it in a comment)

File: LOZ OOT Longshot.PNG

--|Superpowered  Mario  21:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why do you need a duplicate, lower-quality version of an existing image? These pages aren't meant to be picture galleries, but guides to help readers get through a game. — najzere T 22:40, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That image has too much around it to properly clean up. It looks like you scanned a photo; unfortunately it's not much better than the old one (although it does depict the correct model). -- 23:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a rare image, and I jumped at the chance to upload it. At one time, I DID have a perfect one, but I lost it. This one was a crappy scan to begin with, so I expected such. Mark it for deletion if you wish I'll try and recover the old one. --|Superpowered  Mario  20:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The good news is I found it and it's at perfect quality, but the bad news is, it's really small. I'll replace the old one anyway.--|Superpowered  Mario  21:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that new image isn't of the Longshot. As you can see in the image here, as well as the old image you uploaded and the image you replaced (see file history), the Longshot is also blue, has a larger coil of chains around the center, and has a spear tip that has a neck piece below the arrow head (see the space compared to the Hookshot?). ='( -- 06:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, isn't that clever? Someone Photoshopped it! Anyway, nice eye. It's amazing how you notice the small details when you play games for so long. I could attempt to clear away the junk in the old one (it's out of a scan of a Versus Books guide), but like I said, images of the Longshot are rare to find. :( --|Superpowered  Mario   23:13, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

(reset indent) Well, once I get access to my guide back, I can see if I can get a better scan of it. It'd be easier to remove the background at any rate since my guide doesn't superimpose item artwork on top of screenshots and text :) -- 23:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

MapleStory equipment pages
My plan for the equipment pages was supposed to be a guide on suggestions of what to wear as you leveled. It definitely deserves mention in each of the guides, but I'm not sure how long it would become and if it would require it's own page. What do you think? -- Prod (Talk) 05:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering the range of equipment available, I think it is more pertinent to just say "At level whatever you can now train here. You can also get this equipment if you are this build and have this much money." For statless builds that use level req 0 equips (e.g. Workgloves), I think that should be part of the walkthrough section when we get around to reviving it. -- 18:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Aran guide
I am surprised you reverted the correct revision. You should really do some research because the current revision contains fake information about 3rd & 4th job. Clearly, the fake info is vandalism. Next time actually try the effort to read what has changed and dont forget to revert the wrong revision. --Spadow 12:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, there's no way I can verify the information from any of these authors. But if I hadn't done something, you guys wouldn't have put together the information that you did so quickly =) -- 06:46, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What information? You mean the current 3rd job info at the Aran Guide page? If so, it wasn't me who wrote that information. Just be more careful next time, I noticed an increase of vandalism these past couple weeks, especially aiming for the Aran section. Why don't you "protect" the template?--Spadow 15:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Again!
Heya. Yeah, I went off to the beach last December and I totally lost my focus. I guess that can be a good or bad thing.

And I was posting on here a couple of days ago and thinking about how I have not been a hot head lately.

And then I go to the bank during "rush hour" and this jerk in front of me didn't like what the bank was doing and decided to stay there until they "changed their mind." Evidently, he was trying to withdraw money from his account that hadn't processed yet. After being stuck behind him for like 20-25 minutes, I had it. I got out of my car and gave him a royal cussing. I waved the cars behind me to back up -- they saw what was happening. I was able to get out of that line, went into the "business line," and instead of being kicked out for not being business, they apologized for the wait and I received a big smile. I think they were happy I told the guy in line what they were thinking.

Anyway, good "seeing" you again.
 * 1) **** ~karlcsr

I forgot how to sign my name where it adds a link to my talk page. Karlcsr 05:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC) ??

Goldwing release date?
Goldwing is missing its release date, and I'm having trouble finding one. If you know could you add it? Thanks. GarrettTalk 01:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

StrategyWiki:Guide/Languages deletion
Hi, just bumping your talk page in case you have it set to e-mail you (since you don't seem to be around at the moment). I've marked the Languages page for deletion (actually, merging into the guide and deletion), so leave a comment on the talk page if you like. I also did some research on romanization of Japanese, so input on that would be appreciated too, whether the page remains or gets merged. Thanks, — najzere T 19:17, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit counter
Just a quick note to make you aware of the edit counter made by Najzere. - Trevman 21:25, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Last year along long time ago
You asked about the 6% dropped mesos tax. It only applies when someone else picks up your dropped mesos

The 0% tax rate from trading up to 100k is meant to further discourage dropping mesos.

Welcome back
Good to see you bro ;)  Pro cyon  15:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Likewise. Stay strong! -- 16:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Images
Thanks for the help with the Category fix on my image, and for adding the Game-specific category for the rest of the images! I was wondering why even though it was spelled correctly ScreenShots wasn't being accepted as a listed category, but now I know it is case sensitive so now I won't have that issue anymore. I'm planning to add a few more images in the Terminology and Creating Songs pages over the weekend...as well as possibly an additional article on StepMania online once I get myself a bit more familiar with it. So now I can have all of the StepMania related images in their own category for reference as well as the other ones.

Thanks again, and I sure will!

Foxfire667 03:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Category game lists
It would be good to have a more formal guidelines, perhaps it is worth addressing in the forum? A new page on Guide advising what should or should not be on the "Category" pages, would be helpful.

The reason I replaced the list with the Template was because the system information (and in the case of Category:Grand Theft Auto the release dates) are available on the individual game pages. Additionally, as shown by GTA, the lists are sometimes forgotten about. The Template is shown on the Main game pages and updated more accurately, thus one edit is covering two pages. However the GTA list of games does clearly show the progression of the series and act as a quick reference guide. - Trevman 18:33, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming meeting
As a reminder, there is a meeting this Saturday, May 29, on IRC taking place at 2:00pm EDT (UTC -4). As always, agenda is available on the forums, so you may view it and suggest additions there. Hope to see you there! -- 04:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Job Table with DB
For one job to create so much ugliness in the Jobs table, I don't think it's necessary to put the other DB advancements in, in that format. I put this together previously but was too lazy to put it into the full table, so think about doing it this way. -- Imjon 08:14, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Okay, there, I put it all in the same table. What do you think? -- Imjon 08:26, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a big deal either way, but the ugly version is more accurate. -- 17:14, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But... it's ugly. :p Also, what kind of order did you think of for the ToC? I honestly don't see any kind of pattern. -- Imjon 21:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The left side is adventurers, which is alphabetized after Beginner. The right column is the others in miscellaneous order. They should probably be alphabetized. The current "logic" (lawl) is that since Aran and Evan are hero classes, they should be grouped together, rather than have Cygnus in between. I put Dual Blade parallel with Thief because it's a thief class... Yeah, right side should be alphabetized, I'll do that now. Lol. -- 01:39, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see now. I'm just used to it going Beginner/Warrior/Mage/Bowman/Thief/Pirate because that's how it is in the data (000/100/200/300/400/500 respectively). I guess I'm just spoiled. :p -- Imjon 02:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, now we have to start thinking about our readers. I'm guessing that the original order was based on the progression of class development (beginner was made first and pirates were made last). This isn't obvious nor convenient to readers (or us). -- 02:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)