User talk:Ariel790

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Preload buttons

The preload buttons.

In order to keep pages on the wiki neat and uniform, we employ certain formatting and templates to help us accomplish this. When creating a new page, please use one of the preload buttons located above the edit text box, which will insert the needed templates and formatting for you. Thanks for keeping the wiki organized! — Paco (talk) 20:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Remember to press the "Guide page" button to automatically add the header/footer navs. =) --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:19, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Chaos

Can you please stop that for a second and think stuff through. You are throwing everthing in Chaos and that is not helpful at all what you're doing. Take your time and plan it beforehand and add it one after another. Rushing it will not help anyone at all, okay? Paco (talk) 21:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I really do hope that you will read our StrategyWiki Guide and then go back and fix all of the pages you created so that someone else doesn't have to fix them for you. Thank you. Procyon 23:58, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Forgot the menu's yesterday. I was aware of this last night before you commented, just had some things in RL to deal with and had to put it off. Obviously I am here to add them today. Any changes I do make, I'll finish to the end. I was sort of learning the site on the job. As I am going I am trying to keep it simple and orderly. I apologize if this confused you. Didn't mean harm. Ariel790 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I've gone through all the pages I created yesterday and made sure the headers and footers were there. Also made sure the links were fixed. Someone was making changes yesterday and adding more pages while I was and I think that is where the confusion was to be had. Don't know why, since it was new sections, but it happened. Next time I'll comment in the discussion part to let others know it is being worked on at that time. If it would make you feel better.. one of y'all could double check to make sure. I promise you I never plan just to abandon pages I create. If I don't finish it on the day of, I will come back. I always double check my work when I am done (if not for broken links, at least spelling, learned yesterday spelling can make or break a page lol).

P.S. Overdrives for that game was one thing that was missing and most sites you have to dig for that info. Hope all else I add, you guys find an asset. Ariel790 (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

It's ok. I am reviewing all of your work. Thank you for your contributions. Our admins, including myself, tend to get stressed out by new users who go bonkers, because we don't trust them and because they have a lot of editing habits to adjust to with all of our standards. Regardless, two days worth of a genuine material is a good thing and we will deal with it one step at a time. I hope you stick around! --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 20:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

+1, I hope you stick around as well. You are currently our resident FFX expert. Congratulations and welcome aboard. Procyon 23:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

If you have any specific questions about layout or whatnot that we have not brought up with you already, feel free to post on my talk page or in the staff lounge. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 21:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I completely understand. Y'all work hard on this site and to have a "newbie" come make so many changes can be nerve wreaking - and I am just that to you. I am learning your protocols as I go and reading through the guide you suggested to help it be a more fluid change. Each site is different and it will take some adjustment, but I promise I am not here to hurt the site. Love this one because it is so clean and simple compared to others. Plus you guys actually communicate. Most user edit sites don't have that at that and if someone messes it up .. that's that. Like I said earlier as well, please don't hesitate to check my work or let me know if you don't like something I have edited. Only way to know or learn is to say something like you guys did. Thank you for welcoming me aboard! Ariel790 (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

You're willing to work for us and with us, and thus we want to work with you. So, thank you for understanding. Great work on the enemy page! That one is huge! I think the extra weakness details and such could be revised to be simpler, and at the top, but each monster entry should only have the properties listed that apply to it (we don't need each monster to say "no blind resistance", just add the properties that pertain to said monster). --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Deleting a page

Only admins can delete pages/files. However, you can mark a page to be deleted by adding {{delete|Your reasoning for deletion.}}. Then an admin can come by and check it out, and if it makes sense, they will delete it. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

References

In response to this diff, I thought I would justify Paco's actions. We do not allow external links here (that's the rule of thumb). Our policy is to be the place where the info is. So if you have a legitimate, non-copyrighted reference (facts cannot be copyrighted), then its info should be gathered and brought here. We do not want to point to other people, other than our partners (as you can see at the bottom of the home page). The best way to credit a source is to put the URL in the summary while editing. That way your contribution, with very specific info, will have a permanent link for people to refer to. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:55, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Noted and understood. Definitely no issue with that. Going to double check the info today on my ps3 to confirm it is correct. Ariel790 (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

FFX enemies

Let me clarify the intention. I know that the old tables are gone. I know that you won't be using the same abbreviations, etc. for much of anything already posted. What I did was simplify the old information for the page, but not in hopes of keeping it. At the time I was merely condensing it. The goal here is to have you replace what is unused with what is used, and to explain how you use it. The basic definitions of each column of the tables is very important for readers. So if you can do that then we can scrap it altogether, though the current form is a decent way of doing it. Just make a bullet for a point, then write about it. It doesn't have to have its own section or be particularly long. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 20:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Some of it is important so I do understand the need to keep it. Just wasn't sure how to do so in the tables and that is my current dilemma. I haven't finished adding all the fiend info so was going to finish that and then work on what to do about other monster properties such as inflictions they are weak or immune too. I'll have to check on the game what they use in scan to find out what is relevant in that regard (I'm more of up your strength and attack the crap out of it type of player lol. So a lot of those abilities aren't used by me, but may be by others so I do know somewhere it is needed - at least for bosses.) Basic thinking right now is adding most used information about all instead of just little information about some. The page was so empty of relevant info for having so much on it. Love your idea to at least have a paragraph about it. Planned to add a better description anyway. I haven't check out the Monster Arena pages, but those eventually need to be linked as well. I'll let you finish and think on it so that we aren't working on top of each other. Your edits have been a big help btw. I do agree it needs condensed. Thank you for that. Ariel790 (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Before I forget, is there any easy way to make a table sortable after it has already been created? Bosses could use that. Ariel790 (talk) 21:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes. {{prettytable|sortable=1}} will add a javascript arrow to all columns. You can click it to sort it while viewing. However, to arrange it permanently, you have to re-order the code. The only way to do that automatically is with a custom computer program. I'm not that good at coding (I could probably do it, but I don't have a compiler set up), so I would just do it by hand. I often use regular expressions to automate large batches of changes, which may be helpful for my next comment. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

May I separate the HP and MP columns? Slashes are harder to read. Also, if we enable sortable on all tables, then people can sort by HP and MP values, if they wish. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Going to have to set that up then. If you'd like, go ahead and edit the tables I've already added all info to for separate HP and MP. Don't worry about the ones that are still using the long table that currently just have the headers for place markers. I still need to add to those and can do that at the same time. I'll be back to work on those mid-morning/noon cst tomorrow. AP/Gil is set up the same way, but AP is first so I think leaving that column as is for now since that is what most are after compared to Gil. Ariel790 (talk) 04:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

The sortable parameter doesn't need to say "yes" so don't waste your time changing 1 to that (it could say "no" and it would still work). Also, there is a broken reference on the page, as you can note at the bottom. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 16:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Using copy and paste for basic format to save time, working with notepad to compensate for multiple editors. Was expecting it today lol. I will fix that to say 1. I was aware of the ref error. I believe I got it before I saw this. Still working on all the little tables so there may be some errors along the way, but they will be resolved by end. Will double check that before I end for the day. THANK YOU to both you and Paco. I was thinking I was going to have to edit each little sub-section to enable sorting. Much easier than I though. Ariel790 (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Sentence case

We use sentence case headers, as in "Table legend". Proper nouns, like Overdrive Modes, may have each word capitalized as expected. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:22, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Headers and linking

Headers ( == text == ) produce large text and some other formatting, but also a hidden ID tag with the text used. That is how the links can go straight to the "bold" text. Linking to IDs is done with the following syntax: [[#ID|Link text]]. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

No underscores in links

Try to clean up links before you copy/paste or type them. Underscores are added by your browser's URL, but we don't want them in the wiki markup. Thanks! The main reason is consistency. It helps when doing automated cleanup, as underscore links may be bypassed during cleaning. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 17:54, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Completely understood. I am assuming a blank space should be left in place. I noticed you are moving many of the pages that are linked in the ones I am checking so I'll wait till tomorrow to add to the pages I noticed needed them. Ariel790 (talk) 18:01, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm done moving all of the pages. They had unnecessarily long page names with sub-pages in reference to their table of contents label or relation to another page (e.g. /Topic/Page name), which is not necessary here and just makes things more complicated than they need to be. Only in some cases do we allow /Topic/Page name, like MapleStory/Warrior/Skills. That is a case where there are ~20 other pages named "Skills". --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Area enemies

Thanks for adding that nice sidebar for Djose Temple! Enemy summaries are a really great addition to polished guides. Did you get that idea from another guide here? I use them on Chrono Trigger in a different form (see some of the walkthrough pages). --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 01:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome, and ty. Thought of the sidebar as I was playing FFX today...most the time I just need a list of what I am looking for. Helps when you want to collect everything and not "ruin" the story(or you've played the story over and over like I have with FFX and just need a quick reminder for the items). The sidebar ties that up nicely. I am going to have to start a new game to complete areas before Djose, but will do the same for all after as I play through again to confirm the items. The enemy summary, yes, got that idea from a guide on this site. I'll definitely have to look at some of your guides. Besides ideas, allows me to check out the coding. FFX needs some major additions and clean up. Ariel790 (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Let me know if you want help with programming

I've been a software engineer my entire professional life. I was a game developer for six of those years. I'm responsible for the effect in this video. What are you trying to learn? Procyon 00:03, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

That 3D effect is crazy! Wow! Right now I am just working on webdesign so I can create my own webpages. Currently I am taking the freebie courses on Code Academy and anything else I can find on Google. Sort of works at the moment since it gives me time with my kids. I want to expand that skill into online/browser apps and eventually full programming. Possibly eventually even learn animation for developing characters for games. They just expanded a course at a local college that covers some about game programming and robotics that I have been looking into. Any tips are greatly appreciated! TY! Ariel790 (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Well, it sounds like you are headed down two separate tracks. Which is not a bad thing at all, the more you know, the better. But in general, web design and development is an entirely different beast than game development. In no way am I trying to discourage you from learning either skill, it's just that they have different requirements. I assume you've been learning HTML5. Have you started playing with Javascript? Have you learned anything about C or C++? Procyon 02:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Sort of? It's all more of a long term goal. It all connects somehow lol. I obviously have been working with HTML. I've got the basics of CSS down (that's mostly just a matter of memorizing terms at this point) and am just getting into Javascript. Haven't started with C or C++. Ariel790 (talk) 02:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

General web design is HTML and CSS centric. You will get a lot of practice with both here and at other wikis. You'll also get some basic logic/scripting practice when developing and experimenting with templates. Advanced web design incorporates javascript, PHP, and other languages (Perl/Python/Java), as well as database querying languages like SQL. You won't get into SQL until you have a reason to do so (e.g. an e-commerce website or more simply, a site based off of a platform/framework like Wordpress, Joomla, or Drupal). PHP is a good language to learn, not because it is good, but because you can easily incorporate advanced features/simplified website layouts using it. It is also easy to go from the syntax of PHP to a non-web language like C++. There is a self-taught course I want to go through some time. Maybe it will work for you, too: http://www.nand2tetris.org/ --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 21:47, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Image categorization

When uploading images, please make sure to categorise them using the correct image categories and the guide-specific category, i.e. [[Category:Game Name images]]. Please see our image policy for more details. Thanks for helping to keep our images neat! Paco (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

See File:FFX2 Yuna Psychic.jpg for an example of the categories to use. The Final Fantasy X-2 images cat is mandatory for all of your X2 images. The artwork one helps to group it with other similar images. In other cases you might choose Category:Models or Category:Screenshots. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:15, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Done on all my uploaded, and will be done with uploads in the future. Thank you for letting me know Paco. Thank you as well as for what you added Notmyhandle. Ariel790 (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Rename requests

Use {{rename|The new file or page name}} to help direct admin users to rename a page to a specific page. You can also include your reasoning there, or add it in the summary for us to read. Thanks! --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:11, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

See File:FFX2 Yuna Psychic.jpg for a good looking filename (abbreviate game name, clear spacing for readability, a few keywords for description, no duplicate filetype extension ^_^ ). --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:15, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Image credits

If you are copying an image from another site, you MUST put a link to that website, or add additional details like the company name or owner of the image. If you asked for and we granted permission from the owner, you can say that, too. We take copyright infringement seriously here. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 18:16, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Unless all Ariel is doing is grabbing official artwork or illustrations produced by Square Enix from another site. The other site has no greater claim of ownership or authorship over official illustrations than we do. Why do we want to direct traffic to another site by giving them credit for warehousing artwork that wasn't officially theirs to begin with? I haven't seen anything that Ariel uploaded that another site would have a legitimate claim to. Procyon 18:21, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

All the images I have uploaded are from official fan sites. Used on many sites.. all of it produced by Square Enix. Mostly from the SE blog and finalfantasy.net. I thought that was covered by the Common Creative law? I have been very careful to get official images and not fan art created by outside users. I can put that on there, but like I said, thought it was alright. Let me know before I upload anything else. I will categorize them however like Paco suggested. Ariel790 (talk) 23:34, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

If it's from an official website, then of course it should be linked to. If have no basic citation then we're clearly plagiarizing. Since that is close to copyright infringement, I usually side with the ethical standard. I know Proc doesn't care because we're basing it off of fair use and will comply with cease and desist requests. I'm used to academic standards. Anyways, it's fine. I won't bring it up again. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 03:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Its not a issue if I need to add it. Like I said everything came from an official site so not much work to get the link. Just need to know how to note it and what you guys are wanting. Ariel790 (talk) 04:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I do see NMH's point that, if it's official artwork that is coming from the site of the official owner, it might be wise to express that in the description. I think my argument breaks down as follows:

• If it's official artwork from the official license owner's site (in this case, square-enix.com or something similar), we should not need permission as it is fair-use, but it should be credited.
• If it's official artwork from a fan site, we should not need permission and it does not need to be credited.
• If it's unofficial fan art from a fan site, we need permission, and it needs to be credited.

I think most of your uploads fall under either the first or the second. If it's the first, you don't need to go back and tag all of your previous uploads, just do it going forward as a good-faith effort. Thanks for all your hard work. Procyon 05:23, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh, there is one other benefit to crediting the work - helps other people verify the original source or owner or page where more info or images can be acquired. A lot of sites are dead-ends, so having a simple reference can help others. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 06:49, 21 June 2014 (UTC)