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Series[edit]

If it's just going to say "various" and "unknown" for everything, then what's the point of having a series infobox? Also, in what way are Greatest Hits a series? The chronological order in which games are included in this category isn't a defining characteristic. Even titles of the same game series could enter the Greatest Hits list out of sequence if an earlier game took longer to meet the criteria. Initially I was unsure what categories Sony Greatest Hits would fall under, so I didn't put any. Now that I think about it though, it seems like [[Category: Sony]] would be the most appropriate tag. Is there a similar category where we could find some sort of precedence? - najzere 00:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Where else would it go? -- Prod (Talk) 05:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
The only thing they have in common is that they are from Sony, they're popular and they're games. We don't have a Category:Popular, but we have the other two. In the Games category it would join Category:Unreleased games and Category:Unplayable games, but since Sony Greatest Hits isn't a category that any game could be in, like the other two, it doesn't really fit. If it goes in Category:Sony, it joins the different consoles and the PlayStation Network. If you're looking at the Sony page, then it would fit in naturally as you'd expect to see an entire grouping of games Sony came up with on their page. Just looking through the Series category, all entries seem to be game series (the original game and its sequels and spinoffs). I wouldn't expect to find Sony Greatest Hits in that list. My two cents anyway. If we don't change the category tag, can we at least take the series infobox off the page since it conveys zero information? - najzere 19:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm wondering why this category should even exist. Greatest hits are just re-releases of popular/high selling games. Shouldn't we start to draw the line when categories become this trivial? I thought this Wiki was for video game guides, why do we need to tell people a game sold enough copies and is now a greatest hit? RobJ1981 20:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Because it's another edition of the game. It's not just how many copies it sold, the game is released with different packaging and sometimes different artwork or special features. I suppose it's a judgement call, since company pages, console pages and infoboxes aren't helping anyone beat a game either, but on the other hand we could go into an insane level of detail. For now I'll just hold off on adding Greatest Hits tags to applicable games. - najzere 21:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I can tell you for a fact that Greatest Hits editions do not ever contain any exclusive in-game material. Yes, you are correct that there may be exclusive artwork, and that's certainly worth mentioning in the article of the game itself, but I'm not positive it merits its own categorization. It is, however, possible to write a noteworthy article about it on the second wiki, which will be more video game trivia based, once we get that started. Procyon (Talk) 21:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Implementation[edit]

  1. Is this a useful category?
  2. How do we categorize this category?
  3. Should we keep only one category, or have subcategories by system?
My responses are as follows:
  1. Why not, easy way to find other games that have sold a bunch of copies
  2. I would say it would fall into one of the following categories:
  3. Until mediawiki implements "filtering" I think this would make it much easier to find related games.
-- Prod (Talk) 21:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
  1. I think there are two different reasons for coming to SW: either you need help with a game or you're browsing. All the linking lends itself to just flitting around, checking stuff out, which is what I do (I haven't actually used any walkthrough information yet). So for people who need to know how to do something in a game, whether it's a Greatest Hit is not useful at all. For the people that are surfing, anything interesting is what's useful, and so I think it qualifies there.
  2. Can someone please explain why this wouldn't fall under the Sony category?
  3. I think one category is easier and better. Only games that have guides and have been marked with the category will show up, so the list will never be complete anyway. I think we should link to the WikiPedia page in the category introduction, which is sorted by console and is complete.
- najzere 22:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Short answer is: It's not a company. Those are the basic "classification" categories (all pages are a type of one of those, except for stuff in Misc). Any categories added to pages beyond that are merely for finding related content. Also, it says right at the top of the section "This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it." Our goal is to reach "completeness" (eventually, as with any wiki). If we chose to put it within our scope, then we will attempt to cover everything. Not to say a link to their page wouldn't be useful, but lets get what is relevant to us before sending them off our site. -- Prod (Talk) 23:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Ahh, good point. Okay, I didn't realize everything had to be in one of those twelve main categories. If it must go in one, I'd say either Games or Series. It's confusing. - najzere 23:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why it's useful. Most people are coming to this site for game guides, not to find out how many copies of the game sold. Isn't the site's goal to provide help with games? I don't see how it fits into that scope at all. Seemingly useless trivia information should be elsewhere. RobJ1981 04:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of updating the page and classifying it fully as a series. Wikipedia defines a video game series as a "sequence of video games that are part of the same franchise", where a franchise is a "A brand name under which a series of products is released"; so I think this qualifies. --DrBob (talk) 00:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)