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After a male character has left the secret academy on Telos, the Handmaiden is in the Cargo Hold of the Ebon Hawk. When you first speak to her there, or after adding her to your party, with Alignment 80 or more, or 20 or less:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Oh... welcome, exile. Is there something you need? KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes? KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Are you all right? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Something wrong? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Do my features frighten you?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes, your features, your stance - there is a calm about you that I did not notice on Telos. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes, your features, your stance - Atris spoke of such Jedi who followed Revan, how their bodies came to mirror the dark side within them.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What do you mean? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then why don't you strike me down?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is an energy about you, a lightness in your movements. It is something I have seen in only the most disciplined and revered of the Echani weaponmasters, yet it comes to you with ease. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Because there is a chance of redemption within all of us. And there is no point at which the dark side completely claims one, no matter what their choices.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I do feel better... I feel more in touch with my surroundings... and others. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Is that what Atris taught? How touching. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Keep your pity to yourself.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It shows in your features. It is beautiful to see. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: No, it is what I believe. Atris did not believe such things. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is not pity. It is what I believe. But if you do not believe it, then you are farther gone than I had thought.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Never mind. I'll be going.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I just wanted to ask some questions. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Can I ask you some questions? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Enough. I had questions for you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You may ask.

Atris[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Did Atris ever mention me?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: She said you betrayed the Jedi by going to war when it was forbidden to you. You turned on your masters, your teachings, and yourself.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Oh? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She's just teasing you. I'm really not a bad guy. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She's just teasing you. I'm more like a sister to her. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. She's... exaggerating. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Going to war was necessary. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. I don't want to talk about it.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is not all she says. She says you know nothing of loyalty to any cause except your own animal instincts, and she told us why you fell to the dark side.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. And why was that? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. What? dark side? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I do not walk the path of the dark side. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I haven't completely fallen to the dark side - yet. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Falling to the dark side came after.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Atris says that you fell to the dark side in the Mandalorian Wars when you gave in to your lust for battle. Once you tasted war, you could not give it up.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. So why didn't I keep fighting in the Jedi Civil War? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. That doesn't explain why I stopped fighting after the Mandalorian War. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. If that were the case, I would have fought in the Jedi Civil War.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Atris says when the dark lord Revan returned to the Republic, you did not march with them because you had fallen so far you could no longer feel the Force.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. The Force aside, I was tempted to attack the Jedi, but I didn't. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I did not march with Revan because it was my choice.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: So it was a matter of choice, then. If Atris has erred in her evaluation of your motivations, it might be best to inform her.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Anything else? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. That is untrue, but Atris is entitled to her opinion. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Did Atris say anything else? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I'd rather jab myself with a Bothan stunner. What else did she accuse me of?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I believe that is the extent of her expressed feelings toward you. There are variations at times, but all rise from the same foundation.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Expressed feelings?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes. It is difficult sometimes for others to truly speak their heart or listen to it. The words often prove difficult, or they do not come at all.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What do you think Atris' heart says? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. So Atris does not know her own heart? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Are you saying Atris could be wrong about me?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Without having seen you and Atris fight, I cannot say. Battle is a pure form of expression. It is heart and discipline, reduced to movement and motion.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Well, I have no wish to fight Atris.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Then her expressed feelings will have to suffice.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. If I fought Atris, then that might make the truth come out? KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
3. So if I crushed Atris' skull into the floor, that might get to the heart of the matter?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Perhaps it may prove truer than conversing with words. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not think the battle would go as you describe, but in essence, yes.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: In battle, the words are swept away, giving way to actions - mercy, sacrifice, anger, fear. These are pure moments of expression.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. Forget it. I had some other questions.

If you wanted to ask her about Atris, you can move closer to the light or dark side of the Force, and gain Influence with her:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I wanted to ask you about Atris.
30 < Influence < 70 31 > Influence > 69
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: She speaks of you often, in anger. But her movements, the motion of her hand, her eyes, do not share the anger of her words. There are only the signs of loss. It has been almost the count of ten years, yet the thought of you burns within her still. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Failure] I do not wish to speak of her to you. Her actions are her own, and to reveal to you if she sees fit.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Well, we didn't part on the best of terms. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She made her feelings clear at my trial.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I believe that your leaving the Jedi Order may have hurt her more than she will ever admit. It is a difficult thing to speak of, to see Atris unable to confront such strong emotion within herself. You... you did not care for her, did you? Atris is beautiful. And wise.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. A beautiful schutta, maybe. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I always thought she hated me. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. No, Atris was a Jedi, I did not feel for her that way. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. If she had told me what she felt, perhaps the future would have been different. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. I cared for her, but such things were never spoken. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. It is difficult to feel anything for one so cold.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I have heard that Jedi sometimes renounce the code by loving another, and fall from the Order. And there are others who keep such unions secret.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Part of the failing of the Jedi is denial of love. It is not something that can be denied without losing part of yourself - or your connection to those you are sworn to protect.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I see. So there are such unions?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I think the term is, "pulling a Bindo."
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Pulling a... Bindo?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Bad joke, bald guy, long story.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very... well. Are there such unions?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Sometimes, yes. It happens. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. You've been watching too many bad holovids.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is what I have heard. I was not sure if it was something you had seen - or experienced.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. No, not personally. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I think all Jedi are tempted at one time or another.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I see. I have asked you many questions - I did not mean to. They are questions that have gathered over years, and I did not wish to ask Atris.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. If you have any others, you are always welcome to ask.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
2. Only fools fear questions - and their answers.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Thank you, then. I hope this creates some measure of trust between us.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. It does, and I thank you. I wanted to ask you something else.

Sisters[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Why do you look different than your sisters?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I honor the face of my mother. It is not something usually spoken of in the company of others.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
2. I apologize. I meant no offense.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is no need to apologize. You were merely remarking on something that you saw - there is no wrong in that.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Is it a sensitive subject?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is not a sensitive subject, but a subject that requires trust. There is no such trust between you and I, and such trust takes time.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. So you have a different mother... but the same father?
35 < Influence < 65 36 > Influence > 64
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not wish to discuss it. If there is something else you wished to ask, you may do so. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes, that is correct. I feel that I may trust you with such things, so I shall speak of it, if you wish to hear it.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Yes, I would hear it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. If it'll loosen you up a little, sure. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. It beats watching the dust settle.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Though my father's blood I share with my sisters, I wear the face of my mother. My father was Yusanis, an Echani general.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Yusanis was a hero of the Mandalorian Wars, one of the greatest. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I didn't realize Yusanis had any children. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Go on.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: He left our family to serve in the Mandalorian Wars. But his choice was not because of battle. He went to join my mother, one whose movements and spirit matched his. His only desire was that they fight together, side by side, for as long as there were enemies amassed against them.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. If your face is any indication, she must have been beautiful. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. So this woman was not the mother of your other sisters? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Who was she?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I never saw her face, and she did not return from the final battle of the war. She died in the battle that shattered Malachor V, and her body was never recovered. My father returned from the Mandalorian Wars and did not enter battle again. He entered politics, a caste where one's battles are fought through words rather than action.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What happened to him?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: He was slain by Revan in the Jedi Civil War when Revan sought to destabilize the Echani worlds. Revan succeeded. The fact that our father chose battle is not shameful, but that is not the reason he went to war. He went to war to be with the one he loved, but not the one he had pledged himself to. He was disloyal. I am the mark of that disloyalty. It is said that such things run in the blood, and I have fought long to prove that this is not so. That is why I am different from my sisters. Yet I am pledged to them and Atris, and I would die before betraying them. I tell you this in trust, and ask that you not speak of it to others. I only wish you to know.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Why tell me?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Because when my father returned from the Mandalorian Wars, he walked as you do now. There was something wounded inside him. He did not speak of what had happened there. And with us, he was silent. Changed. When I look upon you, I see in you an answer to a question I have searched for all my life. And that is why I tell you this now. I do not believe you to be the monster Atris made you out to be. I believe your choice was my father's choice, and it was just as difficult.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. I appreciate your trust - thank you for telling me.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Your father's choice and my choice have nothing to do with each other. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Do you blame me for Malachor V? KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
5. You know nothing of my choice - and do not presume to.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You have earned my trust. I wished to honor the trust you have shown me, and I wished to explain what you meant to me. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Perhaps not. But I do not think the reasons are so far removed. And you yourself may not realize the truth of what you represent. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Malachor V is the place where I lost my mother and my father. But it was their choice to fight the Mandalorians - and to die there, if Malachor was to be their grave. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not claim to understand you. There are times when your actions are a mystery to me - but I do not wish my actions to be a mystery to you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I know it is difficult for others to see why I am here, but it was important that you know one of the reasons, and know that it is not simply duty that I am here, but because I want to be here. I want to fight with you side by side, for as long as there are enemies that threaten you. You are a leader - your stance, your every action proves it.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. I am grateful for your words, and for your assistance.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I will accept your pledge. Let us stand together then. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
3. Then serve me - and serve me well, or you shall stand with me no longer.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You honor me, exile. Together, then.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I had other questions.

Handmaidens[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Why are you called the Handmaidens? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Is there a reason you are called the "last" of the Handmaidens?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: We attend Atris. It is the duty of all of us, from the first of my sisters to me, the last of the Handmaidens.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. You are the last of them?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I am the last of the Handmaidens, this is correct. I train so that one day that will no longer be true.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. The others said you were easily distracted from your training. KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
2. Your skill is impressive, as is your devotion to your training.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
3. If you are distracted and lack discipline, then you deserve your rank.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It dishonors me that they would say such a thing to an outsider. But I cannot deny the truth in what they say. My thoughts are not always focused on training. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is not entirely correct. There are times I am... distracted.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Perhaps once having known the ways of the Jedi, you may understand what occupies my thoughts.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What do you mean? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I'm not sure I understand.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is much knowledge on Telos, and only one of the Jedi remain. There is so much about their ways of battle, their forms, their stances, that may be lost forever if the last of the Jedi is taken from the galaxy.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. And you would preserve it?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Atris has already preserved it. What I wonder is if the Jedi teachings should not simply be stored, but brought to others. There is much in their approach to battle that is worthy to be shared.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. Battle is not the truth of the Jedi teachings - I believe it is the farthest thing from it.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
2. Combat is not the Jedi way - and it is not my way.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. To lose those combat techniques would be tragic, indeed. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
5. When the methods to inflict violence on others is limited, it weakens us all.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I know your meaning, but I have not been clear on mine.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Is this what occupies your thoughts?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: To the Echani, battle is a means of communication - it is an art, in the truest sense of the word.

In both cases:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Stance, form, discipline are a means of expression and communication. They speak one's heart and one's devotion to their cause.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Devotion to their cause?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes, the methods you use to meet your opponents speak truer than any words can express. When you risk pain or death, there is no truer sacrifice or strength.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
5. Devotion? I prefer obedience. To a cause... and a master.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Nor a greater show of fealty.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: If that is where one's devotion lies. When you risk pain or death for another, there is no truer test of your beliefs and strength.

Otherwise, you only move closer to the light side of the Force if you haven't already said combat is not the Jedi way:

KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
2. Combat is not the best way to communicate with others.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. So you'd consider slaughter a means of expression? KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
4. I agree. It shows how far you are willing to go for your goals.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It was to the Jedi traitor Malak. It was to the Jedi traitor Revan. When Taris was destroyed, it showed Malak's heart through its execution and intent. It was brutal, without finesse... but showed his commitment to defeat the Jedi. Yet with Revan, there was the same commitment, but it was a subtle thing, like weaving threads in a tapestry, or strokes upon a canvas.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: He spoke through battle and tactics, in a way one could never do in words. He showed his heart at Malachor V... and finally, at the end of the Jedi Civil War. I believe he was speaking to Malak in that final battle, though few knew it. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: She spoke through battles and tactics, in a way one could never do in words. She showed her heart at Malachor V... and finally, at the end of the Jedi Civil War. I believe she was speaking to Malak in that final battle, though few knew it.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Revan turned on Malak, once a friend, and killed him. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Malak was slain, and that is all that was said. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. What do you think Revan was saying? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. I would not ascribe too much poetry to their hate and violence.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Through battle, Revan was meeting betrayal with betrayal - and showing Malak the pain he had inflicted on his master. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Poetry is wordplay that cloaks feelings in riddles. Battle speaks, and its feeling is true. Revan knew this when facing Malak... and slaying him.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: What stronger display than death for conveying one's sense of being betrayed by one's own student? Revan's anger must have been great indeed. I would have wished to have been there for that final exchange and seen the truth of their conflict with each other.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Revan and Malak were driven only by the dark side. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. The Force drove Revan to do what needed to be done, and that is all.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: But to say that seems an untruth, based on what I know of the Jedi. The Force can drive others, but there is still choice, is there not? If there is no choice in the Force, then our teachings and our actions are for nothing. And I refuse to believe that is true.

Name[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Do you have a name?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Before entering Atris' service, yes, I carried a name, as all the children of the Echani do.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What was it?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is not important. My title and rank is of consequence, not my name. I take value in Atris' service, not in myself.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. You should take value in yourself as well.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
2. As do all slaves. If you have no value to anyone but Atris, you have no value to me.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: We all have value in our oaths to others, and the promises we make. When we make that pledge, we are pledging ourselves to something greater. When importance is placed on the self, then by such acts the galaxy is unmade.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. There is some truth in what you say. Is that your judgment of me?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Are you making some comment about me turning from the Jedi Code?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: If reasons of the self is why you turned away, then yes, perhaps there was a judgment there, but it was not intended as an attack. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Nothing except that which you have interpreted.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Do you think that I lost myself when I disobeyed the Jedi?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not know. That is a question you must ask yourself.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Right now the only question I'm asking myself is why I'm letting you stay. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
2. Keep your opinions to yourself, or I will make you regret them.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I meant no offense, but the question remains. If the question angers you, oftentimes there is a reason for such anger.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I had some other questions.

Academy[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. I would like to return to the academy on Telos.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is not possible to dock at the Academy without the proper codes.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Do you have them?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes, but I could not give them to you.

Fighting moves[edit]

The Handmaiden spars in the Cargo Hold of the Ebon Hawk, and you can ask her if she can teach you some fighting moves to start a duel there:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 7. What are you doing?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I am training. So that if danger should strike, my body and my reflexes will be prepared. That, and I had forgotten how long hyperspace travel can be. If I do not have something to focus my attention on, I fear my sanity will erode as well.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. You could always play pazaak with Atton. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. It seems like you might have a little more practice against a live opponent.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: What do you mean, pazaak? What, again?
KotORII Icon T3-M4.png T3-M4: Dee-reet, deet! Deet!
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: No, I do not trust him.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. At cards?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That, too.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Look, I don't think anyone here trusts each other. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. This is going to be a short journey if everyone's watching each other for betrayal.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is untrue. You and the Iridonian trust each other... or at least, the Iridonian trusts you. We heard much of the Iridonian when we served Atris. Atris believed that the Iridonian held the knowledge to restoring Telos.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Is that why Atris was siphoning power to the Telos Academy? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Maybe you'd like to explain why Atris is siphoning power to the Telos Academy.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: The reasons for such siphoning of power are complicated, and I do not know all the answers. But there is something greater being achieved. The teachings at the academy must be preserved, even if it draws strength from Telos.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Who? Bao-Dur? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Atris thought Bao-Dur was the key to saving Telos?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Yes. His skill with machines is something beyond which most can aspire to. His shield technology surpasses the designs of even the most skilled of Echani power architects.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I don't want to talk about it - and I don't want you asking him about it, either. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It's not your concern. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. You'd never understand, hidden away in your academy, listening to some schutta who never fought in the wars.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I will respect your wishes. And his. Forgive me. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. I did not mean to bring up painful memories, forgive me. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I see. Forgive my words. They were poorly chosen.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Don't apologize - it was a long time ago. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It's just... difficult to describe to someone who wasn't there. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Don't mention it again. It's not something I want to talk about.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It does not sound like it is in the past. But I shall respect your wishes. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: The Mandalorian Wars were like that for many. Many returned who could not tell of their experiences in a way that could bring meaning to them. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. But if you choose to speak of it, I am here to listen to whatever you wish to say.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 8. Can you teach me some fighting moves?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Training is something reserved for certain caste members of the Echani... but I do not see the harm in instructing you in some basic principles. I do not understand how you and Atris fight, but I will instruct you on how Echani children are raised on warfare.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I am not a child. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Was that a stab at me? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. That seems as good a place as any to begin.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: All Echani fighting principles rely on foundations. If one does not understand the most basic of fighting moves, it is not possible to understand the higher tiers. It is similar to learning the alphabet of a language before being able to use words, then sentences.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I understand. I am ready. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Can we dispense with the lecture and get on with this?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You are correct. Words are merely words, and they fail to communicate what I intend to teach you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: As a foundation, I will instruct you in our elementary movements. The body itself is the first weapon you must master. It is not something that can be described - let us duel, you and I, and that shall teach you more than my words can. Use only your hands and feet to strike at me - nothing else, or our combat shall be over. Do not resort to using any items, or any Force techniques you may possess - such things will obstruct learning.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Does that include no armor? Or clothes?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Duels among the Echani are rituals, and do not allow for armor or anything that restricts movement.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I am making an exception in this case, as you requested.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Well, to duel without clothes seems a little – exposed. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. That explains it, then. Just wasn't expecting it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Just checking. It's a little cold on this ship.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Your modesty has no place in combat. Even the youngest of the Echani understand this - you should as well.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Now - are you ready?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Let me prepare myself, and I will return.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. I shall be here.

First duel[edit]

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. All right - no Force powers, weapons, or items. Got it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Prepare yourself, then. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Hope you're ready to hit the floor. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. This contest shall be quick. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Yes, no Force powers, weapons or items, got it.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. I shall match my movements to resist your efforts. And do not hold back, or I will hurt you.

Any active buffs are cancelled and any clothing, robes or body armor and weapons are removed. Any mines set before a duel remain, and unlike her sisters she doesn't have Mine Immunity. However, setting mines shouldn't be necessary, particularly if she hasn't been levelled up or equipped since joining your party:

Handmaiden
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Class Soldier
Level 6
Alignment 62 (light)
Skills
Awareness 8
Attribute
Strength 14 +2
Dexterity 16 +3
Constitution 14 +2
Intelligence 10 0
Wisdom 10 0
Charisma 14 +2
Attribute
Vitality 78
Force -
Defense 15
Fortitude 8
Reflex 6
Will 3
Ranged Main Off hand
Attack - -
Energy --
Threat --
Melee
Attack 8 -
Bludgeoning 6-18-
Threat 20-20,x2-
Items and abilities Feats Force powers

None

Conditioning Improved Power Attack10 Improved Toughness Echani Strike I21 Unarmed Specialist II

None

The cargo hold's Low Security Door is locked for the duration of the duel. If you lose:

Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You fought well, but you announce your motions before attacking, sometimes quite loudly. Take as long as you need to recover, and if you wish, we shall fight again.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. It's difficult to hurt you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Of course. I do not wish to be hurt. If you wish to hurt me, then you must try harder. It is not a contest of raw strength, but of action and reaction.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I'd like to try again.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. Let us duel again.

However, since she's joined your party, you can control the level of challenge: the easiest way to win all three duels is simply not to level up or equip her until you've done so. Regardless of the outcome, you're restored to maximum Vitality after each duel, and the next time you return to the Ebon Hawk, Atton walks in on the Handmaiden as she spars:

Dialog
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Don't you ever give it a rest?
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Fine, don't mind me, I just need to get some stuff from the cargo hold.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You know the first tier of styles, but you hold back because I am unarmed. Tell me where you were trained.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: What can I say; I'm a quick study.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You lie. Few know the Echani styles by reflex.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Oh, yeah? Guess you saw a lot of the world while you were freezing your cargo hold off in the ice academy, didn't you, sister?
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Next time I walk in here, I'm carrying a blaster.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Oh, yeah, one other thing - don't think I haven't noticed the way you've been sparring with our ex-Jedi friend. This isn't some pleasure yacht, so if I did know all the Echani movements, I might know more than just the first tier, including the etiquette rituals. So keep your hands where I can see them.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Fool.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Schutta.

Also regardless of the outcome of any duel, the next time you return to speak to her, you can ask the following:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Do you think you could put some clothes on?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It does not seem to bother you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Yeah, well, I can walk around like this if I want to. This is my ship.

This ends the dialog if you're still not wearing clothing, robes or body armor. If you are:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I fail to understand the problem. I had heard the coreward systems had customs concerning... modesty, but when training, such customs are not practical or efficient.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I disagree. In fact, if you don't train while encumbered, you are crippling yourself.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I can see no fault in your reasoning. I do have bulkier clothes. Will this do?
KotOR Icon Item(s) Received.png Item(s) Received: Handmaiden

However, the Handmaiden still removes her robe whenever you duel, and doesn't replace it afterwards: although it is placed in Inventory, it won't be displayed there and it cannot be equipped by her again until you leave the Ebon Hawk with her added to your party. You can ask the Handmaiden if she could put on some clothes again after a duel, but each time another Handmaiden's Robe is generated rather than taken from inventory: although only she can actually use it, this can still be exploited to generate multiple robes to break down into components, or sell for credits (and if you want to avoid this, then don't ask her if she could put on some clothes again until you've won all three duels).

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Those look like Jedi robes. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Those look like Jedi robes you're wearing.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: They suffice for training purposes. They belonged to my mother. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: They are. These robes belonged to my mother.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. They belonged to your mother? Who was she?
40 < Influence < 60
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Failure] That is not something I wish to discuss. Is there something else you needed?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Why don't you want to talk about it?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is a matter personal to me, and I do not feel comfortable discussing it with others. I have donned the robes to test my skills, that is all.
41 > Influence > 59
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] She was the one my father followed to war - she was a Jedi.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: These are her robes. I have not worn them since they came into my possession. They are the only thing of her that I possess.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. I am sorry for your loss.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
4. Whatever your feelings are concerning her, suppress them. She is gone.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Do you miss her? KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
3. Sometimes the best part of the Jedi is the robes... at least they serve a purpose.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I think you misunderstand - I have no feelings concerning her at all. There is only curiosity.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I never knew her. There is no absence of presence when there was nothing there to begin with. I miss only that I never knew her at all. And what it was about her that caused my father to follow her to war.

The success of this influence allows you to gain more after you've violated the etiquette of your duel in any way:

Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You have violated the etiquette of our duel. We will leave the instruction for another time when you are willing to listen.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Forgive me. I'd like to try again. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Forget it. I had some questions. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I didn't need this anyway. Just leave me alone.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. Let us duel again.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I think you are the one who fails to listen to what I was teaching you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I have heard enough - your stance was unable to be read, because you chose to defy our rules.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. And that is why you do not understand. Battle is not won through ritual or convention, but through whatever one has at their disposal.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is not something I believe. Without ritual and oath, without etiquette, there is no truth in battle or combat.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
1. Using whatever power at your disposal is the truth. And victory is the objective.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. You are wrong. By adhering to a ritual established by others, you corrupt your own fighting skills.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Such lack of discipline is a weakness. It is another form of not knowing yourself, of not knowing your limits and strengths. If we defy such conventions, then no Echani would ever know another.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Just like you never knew what lead your father to follow your mother to war? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It seems your father broke conventions in going to war. Was he ignorant?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You will take back that challenge, exile. If you do not, then I shall teach you not to make such accusations lightly.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Deny that I am wrong, and I will take back those words. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. If this is how you react to truth, then I have nothing more to say to you.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is truth in what you say. But the manner in which it was delivered is not welcome.

Otherwise:

Dialog
Persuade > 7
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. [Persuade] Convention and ritual have their place, but in the end, it is intent that matters.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Success] There is truth in what you say. But the manner in which it was delivered is not welcome.
Wisdom > 12 Wisdom < 13 Intelligence > 15 KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Through battle? Then you are wrong there as well. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. The hardest truths are ones that leave their scars.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. [Wisdom] Perhaps rigid adherence to those conventions prevents you from knowing yourself. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. [Intelligence] Perhaps rigid adherence to those conventions prevents you from knowing yourself.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I have heard what you have said, through pain and word, and I understand. You have taught me something, about myself and yourself, and we are both greater through the experience.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then that is all I ask.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: If there is nothing more, then I wish to be left alone to consider this.
KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
1. I did it to teach you - not to humiliate you, that was simply an added bonus.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Life is filled with such truths - better you are taught by me than another.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I understand what you meant by the lesson. Please leave me.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I'll be going, then.

After winning your first duel:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Success] You fought well indeed, you have caught the principles of the style by watching and anticipating my movements.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I now have a favor to ask you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. A favor?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: The weapon the Jedi use, the Force... I would like to know more about it.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What do you want to know?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is not something you can see, or fight, yet the Jedi use it... and struggle with it their entire lives.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. It is a difficult thing to describe. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I don't want to talk about it.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Please, I wish to know.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Imagine awakening, and hearing the heartbeat of the galaxy for the first time. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It is like a current that passes through you, and carries you with it to all the places it touches. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. The warmth of the sun without the glare - you can feel its light and its heat, but there is no harshness to it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. It is so many things, yet you know when you feel it, without question.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I only know what its loss feels like.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Then tell me of its absence.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Imagine awakening and finding all your senses blinded. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It is like feeling warmth on the skin, then being buried alive. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. An echo, forever traveling inside you until the end of your days. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. It is something you struggle to recall, yet forever forgotten.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I see. Thank you, exile. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. It was my pleasure. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. If you have any further questions in the future, seek me out and ask them. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I had some other questions I wanted to ask you. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I'll be going now.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: As it was mine to hear your words. I thank you. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I will do this. Thank you.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. You'll know when you die. So unless you wish to die, leave me be. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 6. Maybe I'll speak of it some other time, not now.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well - forgive me, exile, I did not mean to speak of things painful to you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Perhaps we shall discuss it another time. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It is forgotten. I will be going now. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Just leave me be.

Second duel[edit]

If you cannot level up to 14 (< 91000 XP) after winning your first duel, or 18 (< 153000 XP) after winning your second:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Can you teach me some more fighting moves?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not think you are ready for further instruction. Each movement of our arts demands some time to use the art in battle, or to examine how it may be best used in battle.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. You seem to be anticipating my attacks. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Any reason why I have to fight without clothes?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is the way of the Echani to be able to read their opponents - to know where an opponent is going to strike before it connects, anticipate it, and then strike against them. Echani battles are fought several minutes in advance - in many ways, it is much like the game of dejarik played in the core systems. The most advanced among the Echani are able to predict the course of battles by months, and the most revered are said to be able to predict the path of wars.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Only Revan ever demonstrated such skill in war. And even as she slaughtered us, the Echani still respected her. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Only Revan ever demonstrated such skill in war. And even as he slaughtered us, the Echani still respected him.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Can you teach me to do this?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You are already doing it.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What do you mean?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: If you do not know you are doing it, then training will make you a dangerous opponent indeed. Come - as we fight more, I will teach you. Do not think about predicting my movements - react instinctively. You are doing better. At first, I was afraid that your awareness of your own ability might ruin it, but that is not the case. You learn quickly. Perhaps it is your connection to the Force that allows such things, but I do not think so. Now you fight as an Echani warrior fights - always in the future.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. [You have gained Battle Precognition. It allows you to add your Wisdom bonus to your Defense in combat.]

Once you can level up to 14 (91000 XP or more):

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. I think you are ready for the next tier of instruction. For this, we will keep the etiquette of the last duel, but we shall add any melee weapon you choose to the ritual, with the exception of the Jedi weapon, the saber. Vibroblade, Bothan stun stick, force pike - whatever you wish. But no items, no Force techniques.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. All right, any melee weapon, but no lightsaber, no items, and no Force powers. Got it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I am ready - hope you are. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Prepare yourself, then. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Whatever you use, it won't matter - you're still going down.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Then let us begin - and again, do not hold back. I will not.

Although replacing any clothing, robes or body armor before any attack is made still violates the etiquette of your duel, any weapons other than lightsabers can now be used, not just melee weapons. After winning your second duel:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Success] You fought well indeed, you have caught the principles of the style by watching and anticipating my movements.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Before you go, there is something I must know. Why did you go back, face trial?
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
1. Because I felt they deserved an explanation. Maybe I had to hear me defend myself, just to be certain.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I guess I thought maybe they could help me.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I see. It was always something I was curious about - to walk to one's own sentence willingly. It is a brave thing.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I'm not exactly sure. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. To let them look upon me and see what war was - and how much hatred I had for them. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Only to show them their own weakness and cowardice.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not understand it myself. It was always something I was curious about - to walk to one's own sentence willingly. It is a brave thing. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I... see. But I feel I understand what you felt. To go to war... and then return to be judged by those who had not.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden

Third duel[edit]

Once you've won your second duel and you can level up to 18 (153000 XP or more):

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Can you teach me some more fighting moves?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I think you are ready for the final tier I wish to teach. You have made much progress. For this, you may use any melee weapon and any shields you possess. But nothing else, no Jedi saber and no other items.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. All right, so shields and melee weapons, but no lightsaber, no Force powers, and no other items. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Let's get on with it.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: We shall begin this final lesson, then.

After winning your third and final duel:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Atris was correct about you. You know war, its motions and currents. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Can you teach me some more fighting moves?
Influence Gained: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is nothing more I can teach you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then maybe I can teach you some things.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I have already learned much of your styles and combat. There is no need to know more.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What's the problem?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Combat among the Echani is... a personal thing. Repeated duels are not what they are in other cultures, and I would rather that this not become more than it is. And I have taken an oath to Atris against studying from a Jedi, or anything of the Jedi teachings.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Why? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. But do you want to learn?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: What I desire is of no importance.
25 < Influence < 75 26 > Influence > 74
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Failure] Other Echani have broken oaths in the past, and I will not. This is not something I wish to discuss. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] My father broke his oaths. He shamed us all. I do not wish to follow his path... I swore not to follow his path. If I were to follow a Jedi against Atris' wishes, then I would be betraying her. For you.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. If I am lost, then all I know, all I can teach will be lost. I wish someone to know what I have learned. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. There is no betrayal in learning. And it is important to me that you know the Jedi, that you know who I was... who I am. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. And if you do not do what you want, then you betray yourself. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I have fought beside you. You know me, as well as you know Atris. What do you want?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: This is a difficult thing for me to say, but I ask that you be silent as I tell you this. It is my desire to learn from you what you can teach me of battle. I have already learned much in our duels, but with every battle, I wish to know more of you. Your stance, your movements, I can sense shades of meaning, and an echo of something I have yet to experience. Atris said that you were the only Jedi to have survived the Mandalorian Wars. That you had stared into the heart of war, and only turned away because you were forced to. I do not believe her. I believe that you made a choice... as my father did. And that is important to me, more than you know. And you are important to me, more than you know. I will accept whatever you wish to teach me, though it breaks my oath to Atris.
Influence Gained: Handmaiden

If Kreia hasn't remarked on how you are spending time with the servant of Atris:

Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then when the time is right, I will teach you more of battle. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. You are doing the right thing - and time shall prove it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. You have chosen your new master well. I will have further instruction for you as we travel together.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I shall await that time. But until then, I will need time to reflect on this - it is different to voice something you feel, and I must grow accustomed to the weight.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I will leave you to it, then. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. We will speak more later. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I'll be going now.

Once she has, and you've already talked to the Handmaiden about her mother:

26 > Influence > 74
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Have you thought about your heritage?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I have thought about what you have said, of my mother, of my bloodline. There is something I would ask of you.

Jedi Guardian[edit]

Before you can talk to the Handmaiden about her mother, you need to speak to Kreia in the Port Dormitory of the Ebon Hawk, or after adding her to your party, after successfully influencing Handmaiden in one of two ways:

  • During or after your first duel, put on some clothes, ask her to do likewise, disagree, say they look like Jedi robes and then ask who her mother was (41 > Influence > 59).
  • Ask her why she looks different than her sisters, query her having a different mother but the same father (36 > Influence > 64), then say you would hear it (or words to that effect) if she should speak of it.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: You are spending time with the servant of Atris.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. So what? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I'm surprised you know so much when you never leave this room. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. That is none of your concern. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. It's five seconds into this conversation, and I've already had enough. I'm going now.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: I knew her mother. She was a Jedi Knight - a master, named Arren Kae. Jedi are forbidden to have children, and when the crime finally came to light almost a decade later, Kae was exiled. She joined the Mandalorian Wars after the shame of her birth was revealed.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. How do you know that? The Handmaiden told me not to speak of it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She served under Revan? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I don't remember her - are you sure?
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Revan welcomed her. And she was... said to be... a skilled warrior. Beautiful. And strong in the Force. The Force flows strongly in the blood of those born from Force Sensitives. I doubt that Arren was any different. If the servant of Atris is of her blood, then the potential lies within her. If you train her, if you teach her the ways of the Jedi, you will be asking her to break her oath to Atris. It would be best not to train her, and let the bloodline die with Telos.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. But shouldn't she know her heritage?
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Should she? By whose judgment should such truths be revealed? I do not have such arrogant presumptions. The Jedi separate children from their parents - as they did you. It is because family exerts a powerful influence on one's development. I am merely saying that revealing such things can have profound consequences... nothing more.
Awareness > 12 Awareness < 13 Wisdom > 12
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. [Awareness] You said teach her the ways of the Jedi. Curious choice of words. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. [Wisdom] You said teach her the ways of the Jedi. Curious choice of words.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Ah, that was an interesting choice of words, indeed. She has sworn not to follow the path of the Jedi, by her oath... but even that oath is limited. One does not need to be Jedi to learn the ways of the Force. I suspect it cares little for our codes and philosophies.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. But there is only Jedi and Sith, so what you are proposing seems a greater evil. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Are you proposing teaching her the ways of the Sith?
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Once there were only Jedi. I wonder what "evil" was in such days. And to think, once there were no Jedi at all. Perhaps the Force defies such rigid classification of its followers. KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: I propose nothing except what you choose to read into my words. But no, I would not advocate such teachings, either. I am only saying that she has sworn not to follow the teachings of the Jedi... and that is a curious distinction in her oath.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: But we were speaking of the servant of Atris - I would caution you to be careful of your interaction with her. She is not as... tempered as you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I do not wish to train anyone.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: As you will. But there may be a point where you have no choice... you have a curious influence on those around you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. How could I train her?
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: You must train yourself first. The time will reveal itself. Yet if you persist as you have, building her trust, then you will be training her, whether you know it or not, until the choice is hers - not yours.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Enough of this. I had questions for you. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Never mind. I'll be going now.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Before you continue questioning me, I hope your thoughts in the matter concerning this servant of Atris are clear. KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Before you go - a word of caution.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Spend time with her if you must - but recognize where your true loyalties lie - to the galaxy and yourself.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. My feelings for her are none of your concern. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Jedi have no such attachments. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. My loyalties lie to my friends and allies. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I don't need a lecture from you.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Ah, so then perhaps I was mistaken in my judgment. KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Ah, so it is loyalty you claim when you squander away your time with her. KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Lectures? No, merely an observation, and obviously, I was mistaken.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Never have you wondered what it would mean in the Echani rituals if the two of you sparred and fought - and you won, completely and utterly? If perhaps she would give in, surrender herself to you? Few are the thoughts that can hide in the shadows of your mind, exile... and such passions are not strength, but erosion.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I never felt anything like that. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. My feelings for her are nothing like that, and you know it. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. If you think you know me, you are wrong. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourself. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. Perhaps - and perhaps not. We shall see.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: No? Then perhaps I was simply mistaken. Very well - I shall keep such judgments to myself. KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: I cannot help but hear you at times - and such curious thoughts they are, not at all like a Jedi. But I shall keep such thoughts to myself, I think. And you should as well.

This unlocks the following when you next ask the Handmaiden some questions, or when you gain influence after telling her maybe you could teach her some things after winning your third duel:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I wanted to talk to you about your mother.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: What of her? As I said, I knew little about her.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Did you know that she was a Jedi Knight? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She was a Jedi, her name was Arren Kae. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. The Mandalorian Wars - she was one of the Jedi who served and died there, and good riddance.
40 < Influence < 60 41 > Influence > 59
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Failure] This is not something I wish to discuss. If there is something else you wish to ask, you may do so. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] This is already known to me. Why are you telling me this?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Because the Force runs strong in bloodlines, and you could learn to use it to help others. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It means you may be able to feel the Force as well. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. You can use that same power, but take a stronger, darker path.

If you haven't gained that influence after winning your third duel:

25 < Influence < 75 26 > Influence > 74
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Failure] Even if I believed you, to even discuss this is a betrayal of my oath to Atris. We have spoken long enough - now I wish to be left alone. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Failure] I... I do not know enough of you yet to speak of such things. I do not know your stance, your heart. Perhaps if we were to train together in battle, my thoughts on this would be clearer. But not now.

Once you have:

26 > Influence > 74
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +1
Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] I... think I have always known this. It has always been on my thoughts.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] I... think I have always known this. It has always been on my thoughts. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -1
Handmaiden: [Influence: Success] I... think I have always known this. It has always been on my thoughts.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: As I followed Atris, perhaps what I wished to follow was the call of my bloodline, of my mother. I have felt incomplete, hollow, since her loss at Malachor V... and with your help, perhaps this wound might be healed.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: And so it ends.

If your alignment is dark (< 40):

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I want you to teach me to wield the Force as my mother did, to fight those that would threaten us - and end them.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I will not train you. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. I need to consider this. It is not something to be entered into lightly.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I ask you to reconsider - I will not fail you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. You have already failed me. Now leave me. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. But know that I am ready and certain, more than I have been in my entire life. This is my purpose, what I was meant to do.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. But I will be ready if you change your mind.

When you next return to ask her questions:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. I have decided to instruct you in the ways of the Force - are you certain you wish to be trained?

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I will never train you to be a Jedi. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. If you do this, you will break your vow to Atris. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. Only if you renounce Atris, and swear your loyalty to me.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I did not ask you to train me in the ways of the Jedi. I have seen that path - in Atris, and that is not the path I wish. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I wish to follow you, not Atris.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: It is you I wish to serve. Teach me. I shall not fail you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then hear and obey - you have the makings of a Dark Jedi Guardian within you, and it is time I showed you that path.

If your alignment is neutral or light (> 39):

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I want you to teach me the ways of the Force. To become a Jedi Knight like my mother.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +2
1. If I were to train you, then I might harm you - and I would not wish that.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I... am not a Jedi Knight. Ask it of Atris. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -2
5. The Jedi are dead - there is only me, and the truth I bring.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Listen to me. I am already committed.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is no one else I would want to train me. I have seen you in battle, I have seen your heart, and you are what I want to be. It is like a hollow place inside me, but when I am with you, the echo dies.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I will not train you. Do not ask of this of me. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. I need to consider this. It is not something to be entered into lightly.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Then that is your choice. But I had to ask before the moment escaped me forever. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Very well. But know that I am ready and certain, more than I have been in my entire life. This is my purpose, what I was meant to do.

In both cases, when you next return to ask her questions you can tell her you've decided to instruct her and then do so, but after saying you need to consider this, the screen may later remain black after fading out: saving then loading the game may fix this, or you can simply avoid this option. Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. If you do this, you will break your vow to Atris. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. So be it. But it will be breaking your vow to Atris.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is the betrayal of Atris, and there is the betrayal of my mother and father. After seeing you in battle, I know you more than I have ever known Atris. And I am not convinced that serving her is the greater good.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I will not train you as a Jedi, but only in the ways of the Force. KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +2
2. Then I will teach you what I know of the Jedi. Is that what you want?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. If you seek training, I shall train you - not as a Jedi, but only in the ways of the Force. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -2
6. Let me teach you to harness the hollow places inside yourself - and use it for your own power.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That is all I wish.

In every case:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I want to feel what my mother felt for my father, what ran through my mother's veins when she was one with the Force. I wish to hear what my mother heard as she fought the Mandalorians... until the moment she died on Malachor V.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Then know this - you have the makings of a Jedi Guardian within you, and it is time I showed you that path.

Regardless of your alignment:

Breaking the Oath
Breaking the Oath
Taught the Handmaiden the ways of the Force
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I will not let you down, exile. I will honor you, as I honor the face of my mother.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. [The Handmaiden has been seduced along the path of a Dark Jedi Guardian. She will grow in power as she travels with you.] KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. [The Handmaiden has taken her first steps on the path of the Jedi Guardian. She will grow in ability as she travels with you.]
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: :: Betrayal. ::

Meanwhile, Atris is walking up the stairs exiting the meeting chamber of the secret academy on Telos, returning to her meditation chamber, when she stops and turns as if she's just heard something:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png Atris: Betrayal.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Handmaiden Sister: Mistress?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Atris: She has betrayed me... the last of your sisters has betrayed me. Betrayed us. She is your sister no more. She does not travel with the exile - instead, she has chosen to walk the path of the Jedi.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Handmaiden Sister: Mistress... forgive us, but are you certain? She would not forsake her oath so lightly...
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Atris: It is the truth. And it is done. Do you doubt me?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Handmaiden Sister: No, mistress. It is you who saved the Jedi upon Dantooine... who have collected their knowledge, and hid it here to protect it.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Handmaiden Sister: But... why? How did she fall?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png Atris: It is a sign of his corruption. And perhaps hers as well. He will train her, and she will be flawed.

When you next exit the Ebon Hawk and add the Handmaiden to your party, you can now level her up as a Jedi Guardian!

Visas[edit]

Once Visas has joined your party and you have at least 15 more Influence with her than the Handmaiden, when you board the Ebon Hawk the latter confronts the former in the starboard dormitory:

KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: That is how flesh and blood fights. Let me show you how one fights when one's life is the Force.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I won't let you harm him. I have heard of your kind... you worship strength, when all it does is rot you from within.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: You echo another's words, and as an echo, it lacks strength. Who is it who has taught you of the Sith?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I will not reveal my mistress... and I will not allow you to harm the one I travel with.
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: I cannot harm him. His wound lies deeper than any blade could reach, and that is why I follow him and protect him.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Protect him? I do not believe you.
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: You do not believe that I would follow him to death? Certainly you have read as much in my movements... as I have in yours. There is no shame in your feelings, sister of the Echani.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Be silent! You know nothing of what you speak.
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: You are alone and wounded in your own way. I can feel its pulse, like a heartbeat from the past. But if you will not believe that I mean him no harm, then believe this - I wish to learn from him. I wish to learn how it is he still walks when his spirit is nothing more than a shell... when you feel as though the Force, as if life itself, has abandoned you. I had a question for you, sister of the Echani. The exile... what does he look like?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Like a man. But it is more than that, and I do not have the words.
Alignment < 40 Alignment 40-60 Alignment > 60
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: He is selfish, at times lacking discipline.... my mistress was right about him, the galaxy has poisoned his heart. But... I have hope that he can be redeemed. It is a faint hope... And I find that I cannot help but follow him. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: His path is difficult to detect, sometimes he chooses the shadowed path - but at other times, he demonstrates a strange kindness. KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: He shows kindnesses, both small and great, to strangers. He does this without hesitation. He has accepted me, even though he and my mistress are not allies.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: All I know is he makes me doubt the words of my mistress, one whom I have pledged to serve.
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: Such feelings... are not unknown to me.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: And I fear such doubts. Could it be my mistress was wrong about him? That perhaps he did not seek to betray the Order. That perhaps my mistress felt as I did, and when he left the Order, she found that she doubted as well.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is a feeling that emanates from him, like... like a sound, from far away, that has traveled a vast distance to reach here.
KotORII Icon Visas.png Visas: Like an echo. Your words are well-chosen, sister of the Echani. I will not harm him. But it is not me you should fear. There are darker things in the galaxy than a blind one such as I.

You can now ask HK-47 if he knows what love is for the Cupid's Rifle Steam achievement. Once Mira joins your party, she walks and talks with the Handmaiden afterwards:

KotORII Icon Mira.png Mira: I don't know what the two of you are arguing about. I caught him, he's mine.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Mira.png Mira: But it's obvious you two need some advice, so let me lay out the attack pattern for you. It's simple - when you want a man, you jab him with a Bothan Stunner, then while he's screaming in pain, slap some stun cuffs on him. Then starve him for two or three days until he becomes open to suggestion, then double-check his bounty and see if he's worth anything.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: That sounds more like hunting.
KotORII Icon Mira.png Mira: Call it what you want. Me, I love my targets.

However, once you have at least 30 more Influence with Visas, your relationship with the Handmaiden is damaged beyond repair. The simplest way to unlock HK-47's dialog while avoiding this is to gain 70 < Influence < 85 with the Handmaiden (normally 3-4 net influence gains), before gaining and maximizing influence with Visas. Otherwise, when aboard the Ebon Hawk, Kreia speaks to her in the cargo hold:

KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: Something troubles you, servant of Atris.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Leave me be.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: I have seen what you have seen - the slow seduction of the Sith. Perhaps we are more allies than you know. I fear the exile has let his feelings for the Miraluka affect his judgment - and it will doom him.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is still hope.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: I do not believe so. And neither do you - you have seen his stance, his movements. They mirror hers, not yours. But do not mistake my intent, we are together in this. And if we stand together, we may yet prevent a greater tragedy.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not believe you. And I do not trust you.
KotORII Icon Kreia.png Kreia: What you think is of no concern - what the exile thinks is what should concern us.

The next time you speak to her:

KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Why are you here?
Dialog
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What's wrong? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Are you angry? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. I came to speak to you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: If you have come to ask me questions, try to find out more of Atris or the academy, then I have nothing to say to you. I see where your loyalty lies. And if you stand with her, then you cannot stand with me. She is of the Sith. She has faced battle, and been found wanting.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Visas? She can be trusted. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. She is no concern of yours. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Keep your opinions to yourself. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. She serves a difficult master - as do you.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Why is it you trust her and not I? I would follow you wherever you led. I believe in what you seek. Yet you listen to her counsel - she who would lead you to the Sith Lords themselves, she who would sacrifice you to darkness.
KotOR Icon Light.png Light Side Points Gained: +2
1. Because I believe she can be saved.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. It is because... her wound is similar to mine. It is difficult to express.
Influence Gained: Visas
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. And you would not sacrifice me to Atris if Atris ordered it?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Is that something that she told you? If that is what you believe, then what I say does not matter.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: Stay with her, then.

Otherwise:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. I do not trust her more than you - you must believe me.
Influence Lost: Visas
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I do not believe you. Every action you have taken with her runs counter to your words.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 5. She can lead me to those who seek to destroy me. Then I can confront them, and hopefully, stop them. KotOR Icon Dark.png Dark Side Points Gained: -4
6. And when she leads me to those who hunt me, I shall butcher her and her masters.
Influence Lost: Visas
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: You answer her deception with deception of your own?
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: This is the end between us.

In every case:

Influence Lost: Handmaiden
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: I will aid you against the enemies we face, but when it is settled, you shall not see me again.
KotORII Icon Handmaiden.png Handmaiden: There is nothing for us to discuss. Leave me alone.

She says that whenever you try to speak to her again. When questioning Atton, you can comment on this:

KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. The Handmaiden lost her temper with me.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Oh, there's a surprise. Trust me, she's a handful - all warriors are. They're not used to dealing with things they can't punch, kick, or break.
Dialog
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Look, I know how it is. Me, there's no denying that I'm a good-looking guy. You have it worse, because even though you might not be as good-looking as me, you have that whole tortured past, that command presence. Women want to save you. They think they can help you.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. What are we talking about? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. Help me? KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Why do I need to be saved?
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: They think that everyone can be redeemed, and that they're the only ones who can do it. And you don't know if it's you, or the idea of you that they love.
Awareness > 7 KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. I suppose love in any form is a gift. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Sounds too much like mercy to me. KotORII Icon Dialog.png 4. As long as I can manipulate it for my purposes, it is enough.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. [Awareness] Are we talking about me or you?
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: We're just talking. Like I said, I've never understood women.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: It's possible they don't love you at all. That they just want to help you... help you hear yourself if you've gone deaf to your own voice. We all lose our way sometimes, and we need someone to pull us back.
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 1. Is that what that Jedi who died for you did? Awareness > 7 KotORII Icon Dialog.png 3. Did anyone ever do that for you?
KotORII Icon Dialog.png 2. [Awareness] Sounds like you've had that experience before.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Yeah... she woke me up, inside. I'm still trying to sort it out. KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: Don't remember. Truth is, I still don't listen to my conscience even when it's shouting. I think there's times I'd rather be completely deaf than hear it.
KotORII Icon Atton.png Atton: But all this talk doesn't matter. I'm not qualified to give advice. Besides, when I open my mouth, I'm usually lying anyway.