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Fair use?[edit source]

Will we eventually have to use fair-use templates like Wikipedia? bibliomaniac15 17:47, 1 March 2007 (CST)

I think this was discussed before (a while back), and the conclusion was that we needn't bother, since almost all of our images are under fair use anyway, so we can just put a blanket announcement somewhere to that effect. --DrBob (Talk) 23:50, 1 March 2007 (CST)
It's unlikely. Our fair use claim is particularly strong because strategy guides are inherently complementary works, and this is backed up by caselaw: "copying that is complementary to the copyrighted work (in the sense that nails are complements of hammers) is fair use, but copying that is a substitute ... (in the sense that nails are substitutes for pegs or screws) ... is not fair use."[1] All our images fall under the former. And besides, I bet companies would be only too pleased that guides are showing off all the neat features of their games... it's free advertising! :) GarrettTalk 00:51, 2 March 2007 (CST)

File Names[edit source]

Should we disallow game name abbreviations but allow descriptors to be abreviated (i.e. orig for original)? The game name is like the most important thing, and abbreviations can lead to other games having the same abbreviation... --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 19:27, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

I think having the full name is helpful, but collisions shouldn't be too common even with just the abbreviation. We should promote going with full names, but allow short forms. -- Prod (Talk) 14:35, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Command and Conquer[edit source]

Hey. Who forgot Command and Conquer things here?(MrSue 23:52, 27 February 2008 (CST))

What are you talking about? --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 00:26, 28 February 2008 (CST)

I meant the images. There are two games, Command and Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars and Kanes wrath. Which image name could fit better?(MrSue 00:55, 1 March 2008 (CST))

Look, unless the picture applies to both, then the correct game name should be part of the file name. Do not create a C&C3 picture file name that just starts with "Command and Conquer," because that is an actual game by itself and it would just cause confusion. For CNC3 images, name the images "Command and Conquer 3 TW Description.Extension" or "Command and Conquer 3 KW Description.Extension". For images that are used in both, you should use "Command and Conquer 3 Description.Extension" and then explain that its used by both games in the summary of the image. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:39, 1 March 2008 (CST)

Units - Characters?[edit source]

For all RTS games I've been categorizing the art as Models, but should they also be "characters"? Or can we make a subcat under characters called "units"? Oh dang. Should I be categorizing them as sprites?! AHHHH. See StarCraft II. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 00:28, 28 February 2008 (CST)

Do it if you wish. Also look at this website. [2](MrSue 00:55, 1 March 2008 (CST))

I was planning to phase out the Category:Models and Category:Sprites categories, as they're not particularly helpful, so I'd advise you use Category:Characters, from what you say. --DrBob (talk) 03:33, 1 March 2008 (CST)
What about images that actually are models? Like, the guns of Counter-Strike. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:35, 1 March 2008 (CST)
Characters is now gone. Either goes in Models or Sprites now. -- Prod (Talk) 22:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suspect phrasing[edit source]

The article includes this paragraph:

Please note that Artwork contains sub-categories (such as Box artwork) that should take precedence over the categorization of images with Category:Artwork (i.e. if it's an icon, use Icons instead).

(emphasis mine)

There's a conflict in number here; the main part of the sentence implies that there are several sub-categories involved, but the "i.e." (short for id est, Latin for "that is") states that the Icons sub-category is the only one. Which is correct? I suspect this is an instance of the common error of believing "i.e." to be an abbreviation of the ungrammatical "in example", for which the correct abbreviation is "e.g.".

Because of this confusion, "i.e." and "e.g." are both forbidden on the wikis I admin; posters are required to use "that is" and "for instance" respectively. — RobertATfm (talk) 00:14, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can see that Category:Artwork has a couple of sub-categories. The reference to Box Artwork alludes to two examples in one sentence (both category:box artwork and category:Icons are sub-categories of Artwork). I revised the sentence. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 01:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here's my take-away from this discussion: You forbid people from using i.e. and e.g., even if they manage to use it correctly? Which wiki's do you admin? Procyon 01:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Maybe "forbid" is too strong a term (it's past two in the morning where I am). Abbreviations generally are strongly discouraged, but especially those two due to the ambiguity arising from misuse. — RobertATfm (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]