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Another problem with this rating system; everyone is rated from 2 to 5, making all of the ratings superfluous by 1. That was just Nintendo basically saying, "none of the characters can be the worst at anything." '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 04:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | Another problem with this rating system; everyone is rated from 2 to 5, making all of the ratings superfluous by 1. That was just Nintendo basically saying, "none of the characters can be the worst at anything." '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 04:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:Hey, I just follow what the game says. Perhaps it's a [[mariowiki:MKDD#Actual_stats|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!]] situation where the stats don't tell the 'exact' stats and had to create a rating system that is readable to those non-technical. I have a feeling that the Jump rating just applies to the max jump height and max jump height while running, and special attributes like Luigi's fluttering jump; and Princess Peach's hovering jump do not take account of the rating system. You know, I think the one way to resolve this is to deconstruct the abilities of the characters into something that is readable instead of relying on the Rating system, seeing how the characters move, I would like to see what is 1) Stop length while walking, 2) Stop length while running, 3) Max jump when not moving, 4) Max jump when moving/running, 5) Their hitboxes on being harmed by an enemy or grabbing an item/object, and 6) The amount of time/frames on grabbing an item from the ground. --[[User:RAP|RAP]] ([[User talk:RAP|talk]]) 04:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | :Hey, I just follow what the game says. Perhaps it's a [[mariowiki:MKDD#Actual_stats|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!]] situation where the stats don't tell the 'exact' stats and had to create a rating system that is readable to those non-technical. I have a feeling that the Jump rating just applies to the max jump height and max jump height while running, and special attributes like Luigi's fluttering jump; and Princess Peach's hovering jump do not take account of the rating system. You know, I think the one way to resolve this is to deconstruct the abilities of the characters into something that is readable instead of relying on the Rating system, seeing how the characters move, I would like to see what is 1) Stop length while walking, 2) Stop length while running, 3) Max jump when not moving, 4) Max jump when moving/running, 5) Their hitboxes on being harmed by an enemy or grabbing an item/object, and 6) The amount of time/frames on grabbing an item from the ground. --[[User:RAP|RAP]] ([[User talk:RAP|talk]]) 04:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
Ok, so here's what I've got. The Super Mario All-Stars instruction booklet discusses (in words) the characters' jumping power, running speed, and heavy-item-pick-up speed. The Nintendo Player's Guide, in describing the characters, gives them all a rating from 1 to 4 in categories of speed, jump, and power (and the numbers don't really agree with everything else). I think perhaps what we should do is entirely scrap the star/number system, and simply compare/contrast the characters' abilities. - I think the All-Stars instruction booklet does a good job at being objective about it, as it doesn't try to put a rating on Princess' overall jumping ability. Also, "power" is ambiguous, "speed" is misleading, and "jump" obviously lacks details on luigi and princess. If that sounds good, I will type up something. -- [[User:Ceegers|Ceegers]] ([[User talk:Ceegers|talk]]) 08:26, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Subjectiveness of Princess' jump rating
I know that RAP based the ratings off of what Super Mario Advance provides for each character on the select screen, but I disagree with the jump rating for the Princess. She cannot jump as high as Luigi, but her ability to float in mid-air and travel far longer distances makes her jump substantially more useful than Mario's. While I would argue that most stats provided in-game are usually canonical, I'm not convinced that in this case it's a good gauge to go by. Procyon 03:56, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Another problem with this rating system; everyone is rated from 2 to 5, making all of the ratings superfluous by 1. That was just Nintendo basically saying, "none of the characters can be the worst at anything." Procyon 04:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, I just follow what the game says. Perhaps it's a Mario Kart: Double Dash!! situation where the stats don't tell the 'exact' stats and had to create a rating system that is readable to those non-technical. I have a feeling that the Jump rating just applies to the max jump height and max jump height while running, and special attributes like Luigi's fluttering jump; and Princess Peach's hovering jump do not take account of the rating system. You know, I think the one way to resolve this is to deconstruct the abilities of the characters into something that is readable instead of relying on the Rating system, seeing how the characters move, I would like to see what is 1) Stop length while walking, 2) Stop length while running, 3) Max jump when not moving, 4) Max jump when moving/running, 5) Their hitboxes on being harmed by an enemy or grabbing an item/object, and 6) The amount of time/frames on grabbing an item from the ground. --RAP (talk) 04:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok, so here's what I've got. The Super Mario All-Stars instruction booklet discusses (in words) the characters' jumping power, running speed, and heavy-item-pick-up speed. The Nintendo Player's Guide, in describing the characters, gives them all a rating from 1 to 4 in categories of speed, jump, and power (and the numbers don't really agree with everything else). I think perhaps what we should do is entirely scrap the star/number system, and simply compare/contrast the characters' abilities. - I think the All-Stars instruction booklet does a good job at being objective about it, as it doesn't try to put a rating on Princess' overall jumping ability. Also, "power" is ambiguous, "speed" is misleading, and "jump" obviously lacks details on luigi and princess. If that sounds good, I will type up something. -- Ceegers (talk) 08:26, 22 March 2014 (UTC)