Ultima VII: The Black Gate/Minoc: Difference between revisions

Occasionally, when you enter the sawmill, all the crime scene suddenly disappears. It happens more often if you went west of Britain (e.g. to get the flying carpet) before coming to Minoc. The serpentine dagger will disappear, too, but more can be found elsewhere.

According to the plot, you are supposed to go west of Britain only after you had your fortune told by Margareta in Minoc.

Sasha
(gypsy)
Julia
(companion)
Burnside
(mayor)
Elynor
(Fellowship branch leader)
William
(sawmill)
Xanthia
(artist)
Margareta
(fortune teller)

Head to the sawmill over the western bridge to find yet another murder. This time it is two Fellowship-hating gypsies Frederico and Tania. Interrogate the onlookers and grab the serpentine dagger. Did you see that candlestick? Talk to Xanthia about it and then to Elynor. It is a small town, so everyone here knows something. The bartender Rutherford also knows about Hook.

From Elynor you will learn that Elizabeth and Abraham have headed all the way back to Paws and to the shelter there. If you've died during your quest you'll have already visited it: it is the place where you come to.

Remember the scroll Chuckles gave you as a reward for knowing The Game? Talk to Margareta and get her to tell your fortune. You will need to go to Yew to fulfill this part of your destiny. However, this guide will continue to follow Elizabeth and Abraham.

You can also add Julia to your party while you are here.

Side quests

Jakher
(trainer)
Karl
(hermit)
Owen
(shipwright)

Owen the shipwright

Ask people about Owen, especially Jakher the trainer. You will find out about Karl who lives to the south. Follow the main road and pay attention for a path that branches to the south. Follow it south and east until you reach a hut (46N 89E), where Karl goes to sleep at night. Talk to him and you'll eventually get the ship plans. Show them to Julia who realises the ship is flawed. Now go to the mayor Burnside, who immediately cancels Owen's monument. If you talk to Owen after doing this he will kill himself and you will earn 100 experience points. It is possible to resurrect him, but he will only suicide over and over again.

You'll come across another of Owen's dodgy ships (or at least what is left of it) later on in New Magincia, but for now it is time to continue pursuit of the guilty couple all the way back to Paws.

Silver Serpent Venom

Head to the Britannian Mining Company headquarters. Search the drawer for a key to a chest with 9 Silver Serpent Venom. Sell this to Kessler, the apothecary in Britain (50 GC/vial, for 450 GC total).

Artist's Guild

There is a trashcan in this building with some goodies. Dig through the garbage until you find a bag, and look in it to find some gold. The rabbit has swallowed some Starbursts, so take those if you wish.

Services

Karenna
(trainer)
Rutherford
(tavernkeeper)

Trainers: Jakher, Karenna
Tavernkeeper: Rutherford
Fortune teller: Margareta

Lore

Gregor
(Britannian Mining Company)
Jergi
(gypsy)
Gladstone
(artist)
Seara
(artist)

Optional dungeons

Exult bug

Beware, Exult sometimes counts dungeon loot as stolen, so be sure to give it to someone other than the Avatar.

Minoc mine

Mikos
(mine supervisor)
Fodus
(miner)
Malloy
(miner)
Owings
(miner)

Head south to the mine. Here you'll find even more venom, so be sure to pocket it.

There is also an infinite supply of Blackrock chunks, if you can find the hidden machine that is. Remember: these are lighter than powder kegs but have the same effect.

Loot list:

Entrance: 6+3 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 torches, tongs, 2 light sources, 3 flaming oils, 2 powder kegs, 3 picks
Unlocked room: 4 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 powder kegs, 4+9 torches, 1 shovel, 2 picks, 2 jars
Owings and Molloy's bag: 3 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 light sources
Secret passage: 1 torch, 1 light source, 8 gold coins (in a bag half-hidden between some garbage)

The 16 vials of venom are worth 800 GC when you sell them to Kessler of Britain.

Dungeon Covetous

The Minoc Mine and the Dungeon Covetous are separated by a magically locked door. Ignore it and save your reagents, because you can enter Covetous from the beach south of Minoc.

"Old Number One" mine

North of Minoc (90N 61E) is another mine, this one mostly empty.

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Table of Contents

Gameplay

Walkthrough

1. Finnigan's quest

2. Optional areas

3. Margareta's quest

4. The final act

Appendices

Mods

Ultima VII: Forge of Virtue

New features

Walkthrough

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-{{Header Nav|game=Ultima VII: The Black Gate}}__TOC__
+{{Header Nav|game=Ultima VII: The Black Gate}}
-Head to the sawmill over the western bridge to find yet another murder. This time it's two Fellowship-lovin' gypsies Frederico and Tania. Interrogate the onlookers and grab the Serpentine Dagger. Did you see that candlestick? Talk to Xantha about it and then to Elynor. It's a small town, so everyone here knows something. The bartender also knows about Hook.
+__TOC__
-Next you need to give Elynor the package. If you opened it she'll chastise you for a bit; however the Fellowship are very forgiving people so it makes no permanent impact on your quest. You'll learn that Elizabeth and Abraham have headed all the way back to Paws and to the shelter there. If you've died during your quest you'll have already visited it, it's the place where you come to.
+== Caves on the way north ==
+* Small cave 1: 1 throwing axe, 1 two-handed sword
+* Small cave 2: ''(empty)''
+* Small cave 3: cyclops (they carry gold nuggets)
+* Small cave 4: passage to Minoc
+* Small cave 5: ''(empty)''
-Remember the scroll Chuckles gave you as a reward for knowing The Game? Talk to Margareta and get her to tell your fortune. You'll need to go to Yew to fulfill this part of your destiny. However this guide will continue to follow Elizabeth and Abraham.
+== Minoc ==
+*''' Population: 19'''
+=== Main plot ===
+{{sidebar
+|width=200px
+|title=Bug alert!
+|contents=Occasionally, when you enter the sawmill, all the crime scene suddenly disappears. It happens more often if you went west of Britain (e.g. to get the [[../Cove|flying carpet]]) before coming to Minoc. The serpentine dagger will disappear, too, but more can be found elsewhere.
-You can also add Julia to your party while you're here.
+According to the plot, you are supposed to go west of Britain only after you had your fortune told by Margareta in Minoc.
+}}
+<gallery widths=92 heights=128>
+File:U7_char_t04_Sasha.png|Sasha <br>(gypsy)
+File:U7_char_t04_Julia.png|Julia <br>(companion)
+File:U7_char_t04_Burnside.png|Burnside <br>(mayor)
+File:U7_char_t04_Elynor.png|Elynor <br>(Fellowship branch leader)
+File:U7_char_t04_William.png|William <br>(sawmill)
+File:U7_char_t04_Xanthia.png|Xanthia <br>(artist)
+File:U7_char_t04_Margareta.png|Margareta <br>(fortune teller)
+</gallery>
+Head to the sawmill over the western bridge to find yet another murder. This time it is two Fellowship-hating gypsies Frederico and Tania. Interrogate the onlookers and grab the serpentine dagger. Did you see that candlestick? Talk to '''Xanthia''' about it and then to '''Elynor'''. It is a small town, so everyone here knows something. The bartender '''Rutherford''' also knows about Hook.
-==Opportunities==
+From Elynor you will learn that Elizabeth and Abraham have headed all the way back to Paws and to the shelter there. If you've died during your quest you'll have already visited it: it is the place where you come to.
-===Silver Serpent Venom===
-Head to the Britannian Mining Co's headquarters. Search the drawer for a key to a chestfull of Silver Serpent Venom. Sell this to the apothecary in Britain (50g/vial).
-Also head south to their mines. Here you'll find even more Venom, so be sure to pocket it. Beware, Exult sometimes counts dungeon loot as stolen, so be sure to give it to someone other than the Avatar.
+Remember the scroll Chuckles gave you as a reward for knowing The Game? Talk to '''Margareta''' and get her to tell your fortune. You will need to go to [[../Yew/]] to fulfill this part of your destiny. However, this guide will continue to follow Elizabeth and Abraham.
-There is also an infinite supply of Blackrock chunks, if you can find the hidden machine that is. Remember, these are lighter than powder kegs but have the same effects, so it's useful to carry a dozen or so for the occasional spot of breaking-and-entering. However be sure to keep at least four spare for some plot-centric vandalism.
+You can also add '''Julia''' to your party while you are here.
-===Abandoned mine===
+=== Side quests ===
-North of Minoc (90N 61E) is another mine, this one mostly empty.
+<gallery widths=92 heights=128>
+File:U7_char_t04_Jakher.png|Jakher <br>(trainer)
+File:U7_char_t04_Karl.png|Karl <br>(hermit)
+File:U7_char_t04_Owen.png|Owen <br>(shipwright)
+</gallery>
+*''' Owen the shipwright'''
+Ask people about Owen, especially '''Jakher''' the trainer. You will find out about Karl who lives to the south. Follow the main road and pay attention for a path that branches to the south. Follow it south and east until you reach a hut (46N 89E), where '''Karl''' goes to sleep at night. Talk to him and you'll eventually get the ship plans. Show them to '''Julia''' who realises the ship is flawed. Now go to the mayor '''Burnside''', who immediately cancels Owen's monument. If you talk to '''Owen''' after doing this he will kill himself and you will earn '''100 experience points'''. <!--[As Hacki pointed out]--> It is possible to resurrect him, but he will only suicide over and over again.
+You'll come across another of Owen's dodgy ships (or at least what is left of it) later on in [[../New Magincia/]], but for now it is time to continue pursuit of the guilty couple all the way back to [[../Paws/]].
+*''' Silver Serpent Venom'''
+Head to the Britannian Mining Company headquarters. Search the drawer for a key to a chest with 9 Silver Serpent Venom. Sell this to Kessler, the apothecary in Britain (50 GC/vial, for 450 GC total).
+*''' Artist's Guild'''
-===Artist's Guild===
 There is a trashcan in this building with some goodies. Dig through the garbage until you find a bag, and look in it to find some gold. The rabbit has swallowed some Starbursts, so take those if you wish.
-==Subplots==
+=== Services ===
-===Are Owen's ships seaworthy?===
+<gallery widths=92 heights=128>
-Ask people about Owen, especially Gladstone, Mayor Burnside and Jakher. Eventually you'll find out about Karl who lives to the south (46N 89E). Talk to him and you'll eventually get the ship plans. Show them to Julia who realises the ship is flawed. Now go to the mayor, who immediately cancels Owen's monument. If you talk to Owen after doing this he'll kill himself. [As Hacki pointed out] it is possible to resurrect him, but he'll only do it again. And again. And again.
+File:U7_char_t04_Karenna.png|Karenna <br>(trainer)
+File:U7_char_t04_Rutherford.png|Rutherford <br>(tavernkeeper)
+</gallery>
+* Trainers: Jakher, Karenna
+* Tavernkeeper: Rutherford
+* Fortune teller: Margareta
+=== Lore ===
+<gallery widths=92 heights=128>
+File:U7_char_t04_Gregor.png|Gregor <br>(Britannian Mining Company)
+File:U7_char_t04_Jergi.png|Jergi <br>(gypsy)
+File:U7_char_t04_Gladstone.png|Gladstone <br>(artist)
+File:U7_char_t04_Seara.png|Seara <br>(artist)
+</gallery>
+== Optional dungeons ==
+{{sidebar
+|width=200px
+|title=Exult bug
+|contents=Beware, Exult sometimes counts dungeon loot as stolen, so be sure to give it to someone other than the Avatar.
+}}
+=== Minoc mine ===
+<gallery widths=92 heights=128>
+File:U7_char_t04_Mikos.png|Mikos <br>(mine supervisor)
+File:U7_char_t04_Fodus.png|Fodus <br>(miner)
+File:U7_char_t19_Malloy.png|Malloy <br>(miner)
+File:U7_char_t19_Owings.png|Owings <br>(miner)
+</gallery>
+Head south to the mine. Here you'll find even more venom, so be sure to pocket it.
+There is also an infinite supply of Blackrock chunks, if you can find the hidden machine that is. Remember: these are lighter than powder kegs but have the same effect.
+'''Loot list:'''
+* '''Entrance:''' 6+3 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 torches, tongs, 2 light sources, 3 flaming oils, 2 powder kegs, 3 picks
+* '''Unlocked room:''' 4 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 powder kegs, 4+9 torches, 1 shovel, 2 picks, 2 jars
+* '''Owings and Molloy's bag:''' 3 vials of silver serpent venom, 3 light sources
+* '''Secret passage:''' 1 torch, 1 light source, 8 gold coins (in a bag half-hidden between some garbage)
+The 16 vials of venom are worth 800 GC when you sell them to Kessler of Britain.
+=== Dungeon Covetous ===
+The Minoc Mine and the Dungeon Covetous are separated by a magically locked door. Ignore it and save your reagents, because you can enter Covetous from the beach south of Minoc.
+=== "Old Number One" mine ===
+North of Minoc (90N 61E) is another mine, this one mostly empty.
-You'll come across another of Owen's dodgy ships (or at least what's left of it) later on in [[Ultima VII: The Black Gate/Buccaneer's Den|Buccaneer's Den]], but for now it's time to continue pursuit of the guilty couple all the way back to [[Ultima VII: The Black Gate/Paws|Paws]].
+{{Footer Nav|game=Ultima VII: The Black Gate|prevpage=Cove|nextpage=Paws}}

Ultima VII: The Black Gate/Minoc: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 23:16, 13 August 2020

Caves on the way north

Minoc

Main plot