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Getting Started Controls Moves Map Save Points

Walkthrough Overtime Mode Infinity Mode

72 Hour Mode Case 1 Case 2 Case 3 Case 4

Case 5 Case 6 Case 7 Case 8 The Facts Scoops

Achievements Clothes Horse Frank The Pimp Saint Transmissionary Prestige Points PP Stickers PP Bonuses

Appendices Survivors Psychopaths

Items Stores Weapons Food Books

Contents 1 Welcome to StrategyWiki! 2 Show Preview 3 Edit summaries 4 Obstacles to editing 5 External links 6 Dead Rising/Item List 7 Images 8 Edit summaries 9 Links 10 Dead Rising/Characters

[edit] Welcome to StrategyWiki!

Hello Travb! Welcome to StrategyWiki. Thank you for your contributions. If you have any questions, just contact a sysop through their talk page or post on the staff lounge, and they'd be happy to help. If you need help editing, check the StrategyWiki Guide. If you have a question about the content on this wiki, you can check out our staff lounge page. If you want to ask questions or hang out in IRC, we're usually around. On the other hand, if you have ideas for StrategyWiki, bring them up on the forums. Please remember to sign your name on, and only on, talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field as this helps to document all of your hard work. Feel free to delete this message from your talk page if you like, or keep it for reference. Happy editing! -- DrBob (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Show Preview

Hello Travb! Thanks for contributing to StrategyWiki! I'd like to point you to the "Show preview" button at the bottom of the edit page. When making an edit to a page, it is best to "Show preview" first. This way if there is something you want to change, you can fix it before saving the page. This in turn prevents clutter in the Recent Changes and helps sysops easily patrol edits. If you have any questions please feel free to ask at the Staff Lounge. Happy editing! --Procyon (Talk) 10:47, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

Also, rather than editing section by section, it's sometimes easier to use the edit button at the top of the page instead of the section edit buttons. It means you can see how the whole page will look together (if there are any layout problems) and it saves you having to wait to save and reload between each section. -- Prod (Talk) 11:45, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

Thanks for the messages. Travb 11:50, 22 June 2008 (CDT)

As mentioned, please try to make all your changes at once and save the page only once. We have to look over every edit to validate it and watch for vandalism, and it's much easier if you would just have one large save. If you're worried about losing your data, I'd suggest saving the text in a text file as you work on it, and then copy past it into the edit box when you're done. -- Prod (Talk) 00:43, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

I will try to keep the edits to a minimum. I have had problems with preview before. Thanks for your message. Travb 00:54, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Edit summaries

We force people to add edit summaries in the hope they'll write one which effectively summarises their edit, which makes it easier for sysops to patrol edits for vandalism. It also means that if we disagree with an edit (for whatever reason; usually because it looks like vandalism), we can look to the edit summary for the reasoning behind the edit, or some evidence for the changes. --DrBob (talk) 01:20, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Obstacles to editing

I will CC: this to Drbob and prod's user page.

The beauty of mediawiki is it allows user's to easily contribute content. This is why Wikipedia is so successful, anyone, anywhere can click the "edit" button and edit a page.

What is so frustrating to me is how other mediawiki projects severely limit this openess and ease of contribution.

This mediawiki site also limits the ease of editing.

First, strategywiki does not allow annoymous edits.

This is probably for spam reasons. The spam problem can be solved easily by requiring anonymous editors to solve a simple math formula. This math formula can be required for an anon on ever single edit, or only if the anon adds a web address. I was overwhelmed with spam before and adding this spam filter stopped the spam completly, 100%.

Second, strategywiki requires editors to add categories to their upload images. This simply causes another obstacle for editors to edit on strategywiki.

Third, strategywiki requires editors to add information in the edit summary. This is another annyoing obstable for editors to edit on strategywiki.

I wonder how many more people would edit on strategywiki if these obstacles were removed.

thanks. Travb 09:28, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

This is absurd. 1st, SW does allow anon edits. We get them all the time!. 2nd, we deal with a much higher image-to-page ratio than, say, Wikipedia. Adding a category to an image upload helps keep the thousands of images on this site organized and typing [[Category:something]] takes a total of two seconds, which pays for itself compared to the time that it takes to hunt down uncategorized images and tag them. 3rd, again, adding a description to the edit summary takes only a handful of seconds, and is a courtesy to all of the other users that contribute to the site. It beneficial to sysops and to other users that collaborate. It's something that you should be doing whether it's required or not, and it's unfortunate that we have to mandate the policy instead of being able to trust users to do it on their own.

Asking users to spend a few extra seconds categorizing or summarizing their contributions is not an obstacle. It is a deterrent to making lazy contributions. While we appreciate every contribution we get from every positive contributor, these requirements are not going to disappear, and no one is required to contribute to the site if they disagree with the site policies. Procyon (Talk) 09:52, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

My mistake about the anon edits. I was wrong. Travb 10:24, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

We are a growing site, and for us, we value quality over quantity. If the user is too impatient to add even a single word for an edit summary, they're probably too impatient to proofread their work. It also helps stop generic mediawiki spam bots which don't expect to have to fill in that summary.

As for categories, it's exactly what procyon said. We get tons more image uploads, and it's up to the uploader to keep them organized.

-- Prod (Talk) 11:51, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

[edit] External links

We discourage external links to other guides since all the content should be here (if it's within scope). If the content is outside of scope, that is when external links should be used, and they should be on the main game page. If those external links you added are only temporary, then it's fine; but they should eventually be removed with all the information contained here. -- Prod (Talk) 12:08, 29 June 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Dead Rising/Item List

I suggested renaming that to /Stores since all the items are grouped by the store they are located in. It seems much more logical to me that way. -- Prod (Talk) 00:35, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

sure, i will add it back Travb 00:36, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Images

Please use either the jpg or png and list the other one for deletion using {{delete}}. -- Prod (Talk) 14:16, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

Tables are for tabular data, not layout. I would recommend that you don't add too many images, just as many as are required to demonstrate the parts that you can't describe in words. With too many images, it gets very difficult to make the page look nice and get the content across. Also, the images should be along side of the content they are describing, not half-way down the page next to some completely different topic. -- Prod (Talk) 01:43, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Thank you prod for your timely response. The layout on this wiki is differnt from wikipedia, images move to the right will not allow material on the left. Travb 10:41, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Yea, it's kinda weird. That seems to only be a problem with IE. Adding more images lower down shouldn't be a problem, it only happens if you have multiple images all together. For this part I'd suggest you use a gallery, though you can still use other methods further down for any other pictures. -- Prod (Talk) 16:51, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Unless you messed up the image name, please re-upload images under the same name. If it does require deletion, please point to where the newer version is. -- Prod (Talk) 00:05, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

The new images are jpg, the old images are png images. I will put the old images up for deletion, as you asked. Travb 12:11, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

This category has far too many images in it, can you please fix them? -- Prod (Talk) 13:10, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

Whew, done. Travb 13:45, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

Great, thanks :). -- Prod (Talk) 13:55, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Edit summaries

Use more descriptive edit summaries (notice the lack of "please", I'm telling you to do this, not saying it'd be a nice thing if you did). I'm pretty sure you've been asked at least twice to do this already, too, so there really is no excuse whatsoever that you haven't started it yet. It might take an extra five seconds to type out what you actually did rather than some nonsense string of characters. I will get very annoyed if I still see these types of summaries after this message from you, as it means that you are completely disregarding pretty much everything said to you and are operating in your own little world. As such, try to actually make your edit summaries mean something. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 15:08, 13 July 2008 (CDT)

I wonder how many people have left this project because of your nasty attitude. Travb 13:46, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

Not many actually. Most people tend to add edit summaries and follow the general site policies. We force some of the things (the force edit summaries) just to make it obvious that you need it. It's just that we don't like having to repeat the same instructions multiple times. -- Prod (Talk) 13:55, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

To be clear, you don't need to describe exactly what you're doing. Just a generic note like "fixing spacing", "adding images", "fixing layout" or something like that is all that is required. -- Prod (Talk) 15:27, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

I don't know about the others, but I do recognize your edits as very valuable, otherwise I wouldn't be here giving out pointers as much. I'm working at the same time and have very limited time. I'm hoping that I can help you improve your edits so that you don't have to change/fix anything after. About the flash stuff, that would be really cool. I don't think anyone around here has even considered it (I'm not sure we can handle it yet, but we'll have to see). As for the "this is how it's always been done, so do it that way", most of it has a very good reason behind it. If the reason is ever unclear, feel free to ask and I (or any other users) will be happy to explain it. If you feel it needs changing, post it on the forums (link on the left). -- Prod (Talk) 16:13, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

Even though it may not appear to be so, I too value the contributions that you're making to this site. It cannot be expected that people know every single rule or policy on this site, which is why we're here to help guide people when they don't do something quite correctly. However, I (and perhaps others) can get a bit annoyed when it appears that someone hasn't even acknowledged the fact that they've received advice, which is why I left you that less-than-nice message. Since then, however, I have seen massive improvements in your edits. Your work here is quite high-quality now, and I'm glad you found something that you care about. And just to repeat what Prod said, if you feel that a policy here isn't quite right and needs changing, feel free to bring it up on the Forums. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 16:33, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

I can say that getting your butt kicked a little really helps xD. You should have seen the messages I was getting when I first joined. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 12:23, 20 July 2008 (CDT)

Hint: if you don't want to use decent edit summaries, at least add this to your User:Travb/BlueCloud.js. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 16:48, 3 August 2008 (CDT)

Oh you rock! that is exactly what I was looking for Travb 21:29, 3 August 2008 (CDT)

To get rid of the reminder, go to preferences, click editing and untick the bottom box (Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary) and save, then you should be able to edit without a summary.--The preceding signed comment was added by Rocky (talk • contribs). 14:06, 5 August 2008 (CDT)

Thank you so much ;-) User_talk:Rocky#You_rock Travb 14:17, 5 August 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Links

I'd actually suggest using a text editor instead of MS Word. Textpad is the one I use, but there are plenty of good ones out there. -- Prod (Talk) 09:44, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

Actually, textpad supports full regular expression search and replace. The only things it really lacks is a spell checker and full unicode support. But as long as you stick to english, and don't need any special formatting (like bold and italics) it can't be beat :). -- 10:44, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Dead Rising/Characters

Should I merge the histories together, since we try to avoid redirects (always link where the users should go). -- Prod (Talk) 15:53, 8 August 2008 (CDT)

Some of the links to the survivors page on Dead Rising/Case 1 and Dead Rising/Case 2 don't seem to have the required anchors. -- Prod (Talk) 16:55, 8 August 2008 (CDT)

I would be happy to fix this, if I knew what you were talking about. Travb 23:33, 8 August 2008 (CDT)

The Case pages are pointing to certain #links which don't have <span> id's on the Survivors page. -- Prod (Talk) 12:15, 9 August 2008 (CDT)

I will fix that today or tomorrow, thanks for letting me know. Travb 10:35, 10 August 2008 (CDT)

I fixed the links, but the span tags don't exist on the /Survivors page, so the links just point to the top of the page. -- Prod (Talk) 14:30, 10 August 2008 (CDT)