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::{{t|Header Nav}} and {{t|Footer Nav}} are used on _every single page_ in the main content space on the site. They are purposely kept as simple as possible. Adding switch statements and and a subpage check to every page just for the small percentage who want a onepage guide is not going to happen. Really, the only way this can be accomplished cleanly is via some kind of extension on the backend. Also, {{t|sidebar}} is often used for showing differences between versions, so depending on the guide, it could be critical to include. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 20:57, 10 February 2020 (UTC) | ::{{t|Header Nav}} and {{t|Footer Nav}} are used on _every single page_ in the main content space on the site. They are purposely kept as simple as possible. Adding switch statements and and a subpage check to every page just for the small percentage who want a onepage guide is not going to happen. Really, the only way this can be accomplished cleanly is via some kind of extension on the backend. Also, {{t|sidebar}} is often used for showing differences between versions, so depending on the guide, it could be critical to include. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 20:57, 10 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::[[User:Lite Grooves]], I appreciate your enthusiasm for this subject, but we've been running the site like this for close to 15 years now. You are the first and only user to make this request. It's simply not our philosophy. As you have a demonstrated, if a user ''truly'' wants this kind of guide, they can construct it for themselves via transclusion on a user page they make for themselves. But I don't think that this approach should be incorporated into the [[StrategyWiki:Guide|site guide]] as an approach that we want users to encourage users to take. If we get more users who request this kind of feature, we can consider it, but like I said; in 15 years, you're the first. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:41, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | :::[[User:Lite Grooves]], I appreciate your enthusiasm for this subject, but we've been running the site like this for close to 15 years now. You are the first and only user to make this request. It's simply not our philosophy. As you have a demonstrated, if a user ''truly'' wants this kind of guide, they can construct it for themselves via transclusion on a user page they make for themselves. But I don't think that this approach should be incorporated into the [[StrategyWiki:Guide|site guide]] as an approach that we want users to encourage users to take. If we get more users who request this kind of feature, we can consider it, but like I said; in 15 years, you're the first. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:41, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::[[User:Procyon]], please don't get complacent and think nothing could ever change. Try to keep an open mind and find a compromise to avoid division. You're not the first to tell me this, and I've been responsible for bigger changes on bigger sites. That doesn't mean I'm always right, I get stuff wrong too, but don't discard ideas too easily. | |||
::::[[User:Prod|Prod]] said above "when we tried it before modifications to the base content would sometimes mess up layout on the "merged" page" and you say "in 15 years, you're the first". So which is it? If someone tried it, they were asking for it, weren't they? You couldn't have tried it ''more'' than 15 years ago, because StrategyWiki is a little over 14 years old. And receiving few requests seems logical, if nobody is aware it's possible, why would they? Did anyone ever ''ask'' for a microwave oven before they were available? So how about this: I create {{t|Header Nav2}}, {{t|Footer Nav2}} and {{t|Sidebar2}} that include the regular nav and sidebar on the usual guide pages but do nothing on single-page transclusions. And those can be used for guides that have been polished to allow single-page transclusion, are low on drivel, don't overuse headers and use the sidebar only for optional information. So only those will incorporate the extra switch element. I won't be adding it to Gothic until I've polished that walkthrough. I won't push anyone to use it either. Give it some time, evaluate later. Sounds reasonable? [[User:Lite Grooves|Lite Grooves]] ([[User talk:Lite Grooves|talk]]) 06:44, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | |||
