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::::I made {{t|user quote}} to facilitate the random quotes idea. I'm not sure if you were talking about the admin who leaves the welcome message subst'ing one of their quotes or a quote from a big page of all admin quotes. If it's the latter, we can probably just add the code directly into the welcome template since it will only ever be looking at one page. It works so far on my user page, so maybe you can work on a mockup on [[Template talk:StrategyWiki welcome|the welcome talk page]] so we can see how it would be incorporated. — [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 19:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I made {{t|user quote}} to facilitate the random quotes idea. I'm not sure if you were talking about the admin who leaves the welcome message subst'ing one of their quotes or a quote from a big page of all admin quotes. If it's the latter, we can probably just add the code directly into the welcome template since it will only ever be looking at one page. It works so far on my user page, so maybe you can work on a mockup on [[Template talk:StrategyWiki welcome|the welcome talk page]] so we can see how it would be incorporated. — [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 19:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
:I didnt have time to read every post in this discussion, but I wanted to point out something. I've seen quite too often in the past (not sure about recently, as I havent had time to edit much): people delete poorly created pages for notable games that are perfectly fine. This needs to STOP. If something is a mess, either take the time to clean it up or tag it for cleanup. Deleting a perfectly good stub (with a lot of potential to be expanded) isn't a good solution at all. It's not like an extra stub will harm the site (if that was the case, people would go around deleting every stub: which is quite a lot). Notifying the editor about the correct formatting is something else that should be done a lot more. With a personalized message, not a generic template because you want a "quick fix" to the problem. Just deleting it turns editors off the site. So simply put: deletion should be a last resort. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 16:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I didnt have time to read every post in this discussion, but I wanted to point out something. I've seen quite too often in the past (not sure about recently, as I havent had time to edit much): people delete poorly created pages for notable games that are perfectly fine. This needs to STOP. If something is a mess, either take the time to clean it up or tag it for cleanup. Deleting a perfectly good stub (with a lot of potential to be expanded) isn't a good solution at all. It's not like an extra stub will harm the site (if that was the case, people would go around deleting every stub: which is quite a lot). Notifying the editor about the correct formatting is something else that should be done a lot more. With a personalized message, not a generic template because you want a "quick fix" to the problem. Just deleting it turns editors off the site. So simply put: deletion should be a last resort. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 16:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah I agree that cleanup and stubbing should be preferred over deleting. As far as notifying the editor about formatting, I think it depends on the situation. For anonymous edits there's not much point in leaving any message at all, and for new users, the welcome template has links to the guide, which is where they can get an idea about how we do things. Personally, for new editors, I like to start out by fixing the edit and leaving the welcome template, and seeing if that's enough to get them on track. Sometimes if I have to use a whole slew of templates at once I feel like I'm bombarding them, in which case I usually just pick the most important one or two, then use a personalized message. Once again, how we interact with users is going to be different for every admin, and I think that's all right as long as we're all saying the same thing (meaning content, not style). I'd like to avoid explicit rules like "write a personal message in this case" or "use this template" in this case. Except for the welcome template, I don't mind thinking of the templates as optional tools at an administrator's disposal, instead of as things to be strictly used or avoided. — [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 17:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)