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:Most people only read one or two pages for the content that they need. Mentioning the crystal ball helps to indicate where it is located and helps to visually align the text to the maps we have provided. It is also an easy visual reference to find where you are at, since the ball in any of the thumbnailed maps is like 2x2 pixels and very hard to see without pushing your face up to the screen. We repeat our birdo sections, and other repeat bosses, and info about the rooms where Phantos/keys lay. One "obvious" sentence doesn't hurt. It would be more odd if we didn't talk about the end of the level. We have never had a policy of excluding content because it is too obvious. The sentences clearly describe necessary points. It also validates that our guide pages are complete (people can tell where the level ends based on the final content). It also provides a break for readers, since the crystal ball is usually a safe place to stand near. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
:Most people only read one or two pages for the content that they need. Mentioning the crystal ball helps to indicate where it is located and helps to visually align the text to the maps we have provided. It is also an easy visual reference to find where you are at, since the ball in any of the thumbnailed maps is like 2x2 pixels and very hard to see without pushing your face up to the screen. We repeat our birdo sections, and other repeat bosses, and info about the rooms where Phantos/keys lay. One "obvious" sentence doesn't hurt. It would be more odd if we didn't talk about the end of the level. We have never had a policy of excluding content because it is too obvious. The sentences clearly describe necessary points. It also validates that our guide pages are complete (people can tell where the level ends based on the final content). It also provides a break for readers, since the crystal ball is usually a safe place to stand near. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
::I get subconsciously defensive over criticism, so I am trying to compare crystal ball info to [http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Flash_Flash_Revolution/Tokens&curid=31093&diff=706585&oldid=703589 this diff]. Zageron basically repeated all of the info already on the page, which is why I reverted his edit. That is different than stating it in the first place. In SMB2, no info about the ball is mentioned in most areas. Also, our text does not always line up closely with the map of where the ball is located (which goes back to the advantage of visually identifying your place in the text with the nice icon of the crystal ball in-line with the text). --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
::I get subconsciously defensive over criticism, so I am trying to compare crystal ball info to [http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Flash_Flash_Revolution/Tokens&curid=31093&diff=706585&oldid=703589 this diff]. Zageron basically repeated all of the info already on the page, which is why I reverted his edit. That is different than stating it in the first place. In SMB2, no info about the ball is mentioned in most areas. Also, our text does not always line up closely with the map of where the ball is located (which goes back to the advantage of visually identifying your place in the text with the nice icon of the crystal ball in-line with the text). --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
::: Believe me, NMH, I completely understand your reaction.  It's akin to how I've felt with some of the changes made to the guide.  Though I may not agree with all of them, I have to accept that if you or someone else feels that they are a good idea, they're probably right.  That being said, I've been concerned that this guide is "kitchen sinking".  It's very difficult to find that sweet spot that sits right between "too little information" and "too much information."  Although we are usually working hard to prevent the former, it feels to me like this guide may be headed down the path of the latter.  That's just my gut reaction.  I could very well be wrong about that.  I'm just throwing my $0.02 out there, and if everyone is like, "go away Procyon," that's cool.  In general, I'm actually very pleased with 90% of the changes since the to-do list started, it's just that other 10% that I have a strong reaction to. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 00:21, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
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