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--[[User:Delve|Delve]] 02:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Delve|Delve]] 02:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:Where all would you be displaying them?  Within the walkthrough as well, or just on the recipe pages (sorted in multiple ways)?  You could make a table out of all the recipes, which can be sorted (see [[Kingdom Hearts II/Weapons]] for an example).  You can add a "number" column so that people can sort by in game order.  -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 04:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:Where all would you be displaying them?  Within the walkthrough as well, or just on the recipe pages (sorted in multiple ways)?  You could make a table out of all the recipes, which can be sorted (see [[Kingdom Hearts II/Weapons]] for an example).  You can add a "number" column so that people can sort by in game order.  -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 04:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Displaying the full recipe info within the walkthrough would probably be disruptive so likely only in the recipe pages. However I don't think a table would work for a few reasons.
#Too much data, I think the table would be too wide to display well. I can test this and see.
#Uncertain number and type of effect. In order to be sure sorting will work properly each effect type would need a separate and unique column, which brings us back to #1.
#Wouldn't that eliminate the ability to link directly to a recipe [[Aquaria/Soups#Hot Soup|like so]]? A direct link (rather than displaying the entire recipe info) is prefered within the walkthrough.
I agree that one dynamic resortable table is better than many static lists, but I'm not sure it's feasible. What are your thoughts? Is there a particular reason to prioritize against extra pages? The individual recipes are not likely to change much over time.
--[[User:Delve|Delve]] 04:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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Notes on some external links

I sent a private message on the Bit Blot forums to the apparent author of the full map luinked in external links to see if it could be included directly here. He hasn't been on that forum since Jan 17, '08 so I'm doubtful of a response.

There is also a good set of maps in PDF form in the Bit Blot forum, but it's much larger. The owner hasn't been active on the forum since Aug 9, '08. http://www.bit-blot.com/forum/index.php?topic=972.0 Delve 14:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Reorganizing the recipes

I'm working on reorganizing the recipes into subpages, or whatever it's called, so they're set up like a move list. Partly because I want to be able to easily reference the info in other locations, partly because it lends itself to that format well, and partly because I can and it was fun figuring out that part of how wikis work.

So far, I've only done the soups. Delve 02:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The reason it was done for the move lists is because simply linking to each character was not sufficient, and treating them as full pages was unwieldy. I don't really see the same benefits here, and it just adds a lot of extra pages to manage. -- Prod (Talk) 02:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The primary benefit of using this sort of format, as I see it, would be the ability to display the complete recipe data in various lists without needing to maintain them separately. Cooking is a significant part of the game, and being able to find a particular recipe for any occasion is handy. As an example, this recipe list (http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Aquaria/Recipes&oldid=229615) is crippled by a lack of information. Nevermind that it's organized poorly, it dosn't tell you everything you need to know. It would be much more useful if it gave the complete recipe data for each recipe. It would also be useful to list out all recipes in both alpha order and in-game list order so that you can easily pick out which recipes you haven't discovered yet. Creating these lists by manually entering each recipe several times would counter productive. --Delve 02:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Where all would you be displaying them? Within the walkthrough as well, or just on the recipe pages (sorted in multiple ways)? You could make a table out of all the recipes, which can be sorted (see Kingdom Hearts II/Weapons for an example). You can add a "number" column so that people can sort by in game order. -- Prod (Talk) 04:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Displaying the full recipe info within the walkthrough would probably be disruptive so likely only in the recipe pages. However I don't think a table would work for a few reasons.

  1. Too much data, I think the table would be too wide to display well. I can test this and see.
  2. Uncertain number and type of effect. In order to be sure sorting will work properly each effect type would need a separate and unique column, which brings us back to #1.
  3. Wouldn't that eliminate the ability to link directly to a recipe like so? A direct link (rather than displaying the entire recipe info) is prefered within the walkthrough.

I agree that one dynamic resortable table is better than many static lists, but I'm not sure it's feasible. What are your thoughts? Is there a particular reason to prioritize against extra pages? The individual recipes are not likely to change much over time. --Delve 04:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)