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Archived discussions from December 2006 to June 2011 can now be located at [[User talk:Namcorules/Archive1]]. [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] 15:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC) | Archived discussions from December 2006 to June 2011 can now be located at [[User talk:Namcorules/Archive1]]. [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] 15:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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== Rompers == | == Rompers == | ||
You really shouldn't keep changing every little thing that someone else writes. It gets tiresome really quickly and frankly this sort of behavior is what drives people away from wikis. Wikis are supposed to allow anyone to contribute but when one person decides that they "own" articles, this defeats that goal. Looking at your talk page shows that you have a long and unfortunate history of doing this. Clearly you alone don't know everything about every Namco arcade game. You certainly didn't know about Rompers bonus scoring. Please take a step back and think about this. | You really shouldn't keep changing every little thing that someone else writes. It gets tiresome really quickly and frankly this sort of behavior is what drives people away from wikis. Wikis are supposed to allow anyone to contribute but when one person decides that they "own" articles, this defeats that goal. Looking at your talk page shows that you have a long and unfortunate history of doing this. Clearly you alone don't know everything about every Namco arcade game. You certainly didn't know about Rompers bonus scoring. Please take a step back and think about this. To be clear, some of your changes are useful but others are just petty stuff where you seemingly just want to own the articles. | ||
:I am not going to argue with you about this, I am simply going to tell you: you changed a British English spelling ("utilise") to an American English one ("utilize"), and in the case of a regional spelling being changed, the original author's choice (which was mine) has precedence; I only learned this myself after an anonymous US user added "a better, easier, more understandable, accurate name for aubergine" to [[Pac-Man Arrangement/Walkthrough]] at 23:42 on 15th April 2012, and [[User:Moydow|Moydow]] reverted it ten minutes later with the summary "aubergine is the UK English name for eggplant; in such conflicts, the original author's choice has precedence". See in [https://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pac-Man_Arrangement/Walkthrough&diff=next&oldid=608005 this diff]. [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] ([[User talk:Namcorules|talk]]) 15:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I changed it to country neutral phrasing, there is no need to change it again. You do not own these articles. Also, if you're responsible for sentencing such as the following then you are writing in an unnatural format and the technical info doesn't further the primary function of the StrategyWiki: ''"and the song that you had been hearing from the Yamaha YM-2151 speeds up, along with the enemies"'' - the average person doesn't care about the specifics of the Namco System 1 hardware, they are looking for tips and info to help improve their game. | |||
:The goal is to maintain consistency within a guide for regional variations of spellings. By sticking to the variation chosen by the original author, it maintains consistency within the guide. Changing regional spellings beyond restoring consistency is discouraged. Namcorules indeed has a long history on this site. To me, it looks like you have all been working together to improve the [[Rompers/Gameplay]] page in a true spirit of a wiki. Improved wording/grammar is greatly appreciated. No author "owns" the guide, but Namcorules is a registered and recognizable user, and has been maintaining the guides for a long time. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I had to debate whether or not I should weigh in on this, or just let Prod handle it. In general, I have found that I'm better off just leaving you alone, but this episode highlights numerous issues that we've had with you in the past. I have routinely considered whether it is worth asking you to leave the site. It seems unfair to do, given the number of contributions you have made, but where Prod and I disagree is whether your participation is, on the whole, more positive or more negative. My opinion is the latter category. | |||
::Whenever I see edits occur on pages that you wrote, I know it will only be a matter of minutes before you start editing the page to touch, adjust, or rewrite whatever has been added. I've seen genuine improvements to a page get completely undone by you simply because they don't align with your rigid conception of how a page is supposed to be formatted. And I agree with the anon, it is very discouraging to see that. I'm glad someone finally had the courage to say that out loud. Had you only bothered to correct the UK/US spelling of certain words, it would not have been so egregious. But here is someone trying very hard to help the site, and you keep stepping on their toes out of some misplaced sense of ownership or pride in the page. | |||
::Meanwhile, you continue to: | |||
::*Over do it with the Redirects, making the site's built in search functionality nearly useless, | |||
::*Mention hardware information despite repeatedly being asked to stop because that is out of scope for the site, | |||
::*Make very odd grammatical choices that make no sense, like your insistence on using the word "shall" | |||
::But the worst offense, by far, is your writing style for walkthroughs, and the way you robotically describe everything that players will encounter through a stage, repeating phrases over and over again. I'll be honest with you, I just recently had an experience where I decided to try Ordyne out. I got up to Stage 6 where the boss rush begins, and I was struggling with it. I wasn't sure if SW had a guide for Ordyne, so I looked it up, and sure enough, it was one written by you. I went to [[Ordyne/Round 6]] to try and get some help with the stage. I started to read, and by the time I got to your second unnecessary reference to the YM-2151, I utterly lost any interest in continuing to read any further. That page is over 11k bytes long... and it feels useless. If anyone came to SW to get help with Ordyne, they would leave very disappointed. We've actually seen tweets making fun of the writing style that appears in pages you've written. | |||
::So... I don't know what the right answer is now. I'm well aware that you have a disability, but I've given up hope that you will ever reflect upon any of the feedback we give you and attempt to improve how you write. At the end of the day, Prod and I still differ on that one fundamental perspective: he feels you help more than you hurt, and I feel you hurt more than you help. The question is, what are you willing to do to prove to me that Prod is right and I am wrong? Because after 15 years of the same stuff over and over again, I'm convinced you're not going to improve. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 02:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::Procyon is right; I do indeed have Asperger's syndrome. Furthermore, the only reason I even signed up for this site at all is because I was a (day) student at a college which had extremely restrictive internet filters in 2006, and yesterday was the first time since Paul Young attacked me by turning quotes from a TV show into insults in 2015 where I ''really'' regretted making that decision when I was 16. So yes, maybe once I have converted the team lineups on the NS2, NB-1 and NS12-era {{c|World Stadium}}s' Gameplay pages to tables, created the guides to [[Super World Stadium '98]], [[Super World Stadium 2000|2000]] and [[Super World Stadium 2001|2001]], expanded and created the front pages to all the remaining Taito SJ System games, and completed the guide to [[Kuri Kinton]], it would be best for everyone if I just left - but it would take me until the end of this year at the earliest. [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] ([[User talk:Namcorules|talk]]) 06:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
