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How come some of the games (take Hamsterz 2 for example) are just in their subcategory, and not in the Petz category? Because they are all in the Petz series, and in the US Hamsterz 2 is called Petz: Hamsterz 2 and so it should be in Petz and Hamsterz, because it is in both serieses (if that's a word). --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 12:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
How come some of the games (take Hamsterz 2 for example) are just in their subcategory, and not in the Petz category? Because they are all in the Petz series, and in the US Hamsterz 2 is called Petz: Hamsterz 2 and so it should be in Petz and Hamsterz, because it is in both serieses (if that's a word). --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 12:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, it seems the pages that are not here are missing the category. Looks like the top section is specific categories within the petz series and the bottom section is actual games that have the '''Petz''' category on their main page (or are the series in tehir infobox since that does the same thing). I'm going to go fix these so the categories on each of the existing petz related pages match.
:This sounds more fun than a spelling sweep. You should take a look at what changes or gets moved in the diffirences part of the recent changes page after it's fixed (it's a really little mix-up, the guides all look to be growing solidly). Thats how I learned how to do things here. --[[User:Zaiqukaj|Zaiqukaj]] 13:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
== Mini-project ==
There was a discussion a little while ago about how confusing the Petz series really is.  I'd like to propose we have a mini-collaboration real quick for the following:
#Determine naming conventions, etc. for the Petz games on this site
#Create at least a main page for each Petz game (main pages should include a note at the top to help users find the game they are looking for, if they are on the wrong one).
#Organize the Petz categories and maybe create a few disambiguation pages if needed (this can be discussed)
I'd like the input of those of you who have been working on the Petz games, as you seem to be the most knowledgable.  Is everyone up for this?--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 15:44, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds good. I can work on a Petz series template we can use on all the front pages. I've never played a Petz game, but Melon knows all about them, and I don't mind trying to implement whatever she comes up with. - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 15:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I'll go along with it. Are the things we're talking about like the little box at the bottom of [[The Sims 2]]? And also, am I supposed to be editing the table down there because I think that, if all the ones with one title are American names, the EU names are different (such as Petz Dogz Fashion is called Fashion Dogz). --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 17:30, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, I'm talking about the {{t|Series Nav}} that goes at the bottom of the page. As for the table, we have to figure out how to address the different titles from different regions and also how to differentiate games from different times that have the same names. The list just came from a quick search I did, if there are alternate names for European or US releases, go ahead and add them. How do you feel about having one name for each game (maybe the first one released) and then redirecting other names to it? - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 17:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Reading the [[wp:Petz|WikiPedia page]], it says that from 2006 on the Petz games took a different direction and should be considered a different series. Maybe we should have two series, one for the computer games and one for the console games that have come out since 2006. We could have '''Petz (PC)''' or '''Petz (Windows)''' for the old version and just '''Petz''' for the newer one. I think we'll get more traffic for the newer ones and there are already more games for that series. - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 17:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think we should leave it as one series as they're still Petz. And I'll add the eu names and possibly some links to the table below. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 17:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::That's an interesting question...  On the one hand, I understand Melon's point of view, in that all of the games are technically part of the "Petz" series.  On the other hand, there is a rather profound difference between the original Petz games and the current ones.  I'm not entirely sure where to stand on this one, however.  This is a tough question and probably the first we should tackle.
::My stance on this is to agree with Najzere.  It seems like right around 2006 they essentially started over with the series.  The original series spans 5 iterations (Dogz through Dogz 5 and Catz through Catz 5).  The only time we see "Petz" in this is for the compilations.  In 2006, they released Dogz and Catz once again (a completely unrelated game to the original) and then the sequels they started calling it Petz: Dogz 2, etc.  This is a great cut-off and should eliminate a lot of confusion.
::To that end, I'm proposing we create [[:Category:Petz (PC)]] for the original games and [[:Category:Petz]] will become purely for the newer games.  We can have a statement at the top to link the two.  Underneath the "Petz (PC)" category, we can have "Dogz (PC)" and "Catz (PC)".  Underneath the "Petz" category, we can have "Dogz", "Catz", "Hamsterz", etc. as needed.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 18:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah I guess you're right. So basically we have a category for Dogz 1 to 5 and Catz 1 to whatever number they go up to. I think I'll split the table below in two, so we know which series is which. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 09:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Just so you all know I have some experience with the first version of the Petz series (those ones made of fuzzy ball clusters). I’ll see if I can find my copy of Oddballz and begin searching for some of the other early PC games. --[[User:Zaiqukaj|Zaiqukaj]] 12:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
And also, if Catz is called Catz 2 in US, what is the Catz 2 for DS called? I'm assuming it would just be 'Petz: Catz 2' again. It's just here you can get Catz 2 for DS but not on any other platforms (there might be a GBA version, but I don't think there is). --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 09:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Nav created. See [[Template:Petz nav]] and change it if there's something wrong. I'll add it to already created Petz articles. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 10:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::I moved it here {{t|Petz}} so it's named like all the other series navs. It looks good, I guess we'll just adjust the titles and add more when we get the table filled out? - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 15:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, we'll add the other games when we get the table filled out. The only thing bugging me is that when you deleted the other page it said that you were the only contributer, so it's almost like you get all the credit for it when all you did was move the page! --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 17:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:What's wrong with that? Moving pages is hard work, I '''should''' get the credit! Just kidding, you can see [http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Petz&action=history here] that you are the creator and main contributor. I wouldn't worry, I think it's well known that Melon247 is the animal guide expert around here. :) - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 18:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm bringing up a question from earlier. With Bunnyz, I think is could be possible to maybe have a [[Bunnyz and Hamsterz]] or [[Petz:Bunnyz and Hamsterz]] is you prefer. Then again, I haven't actually got this game yet, but from trailers and stuff I've seen it looks exactly the same as hamsters, except you have rabbits instead and they are probably in hutches. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 18:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:If they're the same, then I don't know why you wouldn't handle it the same way as [[Petz: Dogz 2 and Catz 2]]. We'll just have to verify they're identical. - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 16:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll find out soon, because in a way I do actually have this game, but it's being saved for christmas. So we'll find out then! --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 17:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:I just watched a film on YouTube (ok, it was on Google Videos, but it was still from Youtube), [http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBS_en___GB209&q=Bunnyz&sa=N&tab=iv# here], and Bunnyz looks exactly the same as hamsterz, but I did notice a few differences, including this wierd thing they did with bubbles and the menu looks different, and choosing a bunny looked a bit wierd aswell. Then again, most of the other things looked the same. So now I'm not sure. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 17:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:I just found out it was one further down the page, but never mind. As there are some differences (unlike in Dogz and Catz, where the only difference is the type of animal in each game) I think we should keep the games seperate. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="purple">Melon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">247</font>]], The [[Dog's Life]] Expert 18:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Merging games that are very similar may be an ok idea if we tried doing something like how controls are toggled in some of the multi platform games like [[The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess/The Beginning|here]]. --[[User:Zaiqukaj|Zaiqukaj]] 12:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:I'm getting confused now, because first everyone is saying that Dogz and Catz and Hamsterz need to be in seperate serieses, and now everyone's saying that they should be merged into the Petz category. So what's going to happen now? --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 15:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I think it would be easiest to have a Petz category for all of the Petz games (like we mentioned below).  We also need to have a disambiguation page that explains the naming system of all the guides.  Maybe that's where a category for Dogz and such comes into play.  As long as we make it easy for users to find which guide they really want, we're okay.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 15:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
==Game listing==
[[:Category:Petz (PC)]]
{|{{prettytable|sortable=1}}
! Game !! Date !! SW Name
|-
! colspan="3" | Dogz
|-
| Dogz (1995) || 1995 ||
|-
| Dogz 2 || 1997 ||
|-
| Dogz 3 || 9/28/1998 ||
|-
| Dogz 4 || 9/28/1999 ||
|-
| Dogz 5 || 11/18/2002 ||
|-
! colspan="3" | Catz
|-
| Catz (1995) || 1995 ||
|-
| Catz 2 || ||
|-
| Catz 3 || 9/28/1998 ||
|-
| Catz 4 || 9/28/1999 ||
|-
| Catz 5 || 11/18/2002 ||
|-
! colspan="3" | Oddballz
|-
| Oddballz || 1996 ||
|-
! colspan="3" | Compilations
|-
| Virtual Petz: Catz II & Dogz II || 11/30/1999 ||
|-
| Petz: Dogz 5 & Catz 5 Compilation || 1/15/2005 ||
|}
[[:Category:Petz]]
{|{{prettytable|sortable=1}}
! Game !! Date !! SW Name
|-
! colspan="3" | Dogz
|-
| Dogz: Happy House || 4/27/2006 ||
|-
| Dogz || 11/14/2006 || [[Dogz]]
|-
| Dogz (Europe) / Petz: Dogz 2 (US) || 10/12/2007 || [[Petz:Dogz 2 and Catz 2]]
|-
| Petz Dogz Fasion (US)/Fashion Dogz (Europe) || 6/17/2008 ||[[Fashion Dogz]]
|-
| Petz Dogz Pack || 11/04/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Sports: Dog Playground || 11/04/2008 ||
|-
! colspan="3" | Catz
|-
| Catz || 11/30/2006 ||[[Catz]]
|-
| Catz 2 (Europe) / Petz: Catz 2 (US) || 11/09/2007 ||
|-
| Petz Catz Clan || 11/18/2008 ||
|-
! colspan="3" | Other
|-
| Hamsterz 2 (Europe) / Petz: Hamsterz 2 (US) || 11/09/2007 ||[[Hamsterz 2]]
|-
| Petz: Hamsterz Life (US)/Hamsterz (Europe) || 11/13/2007 ||[[Hamsterz]]
|-
| Petz Wild Animals: Dolphinz(US)/Dolphin Island (Europe) || 10/16/2007 ||
|-
| Petz: Horsez 2 || 11/14/2007 ||
|-
| Petz: Horsez Club || 11/11/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Wild Animals: Tigerz (US)/ Tigerz (Europe) || 2/26/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Bunnyz (US)/Bunnyz (Europe) || 3/4/2008 ||[[Bunnyz]]
|-
| Petz Vet || 3/20/07 ||
|-
| Petz Rescue Wildlife Vet || 10/21/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Rescue Ocean Patrol || 10/28/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Rescue Endangered Paradise || 11/18/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Monkeyz House || 11/18/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Crazy Monkeyz || 11/18/2008 ||
|-
| Petz: My Puppy Family || 11/26/2008 ||
|-
| Petz Horseshoe Ranch || 1/27/2009 ||
|-
| Petz: My Kitten Family || 2/13/2009 ||
|-
| Petz: My Monkey Family || 2/13/2009 ||
|-
| Petz: Monkey Madness || 2/13/2009 ||
|-
| Petz: Saddle Club || 2/17/2009 ||
|}
Is this information correct? If so it should be added to the relevant series pages.  -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 04:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:They're all in there already. Unless you're talking about the first table, which we're putting into a different series. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 15:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::It has the listing, of the games, but doesn't go into chronology, describe which versions are equivalent, or go into any detail.  I removed it from the template because it belongs on this page. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 16:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::A couple of days ago I had an idea to have a table on the Petz page with the UK and US titles on it. Are you guys side-kick or something? : ) {{User:Melon247/My sig}} 16:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::It might be a good idea to verify the chronology.  I pulled this list from GameFAQs by searching for "Petz", "Dogz", and "Catz".  It could easily be missing information.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 16:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::For now should I add the table? {{User:Melon247/My sig}} 16:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes please. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 03:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
== Different series ==
The games in what Najzere called the 'Petz Rescue' sub-series for Petz aren't actually in the Petz series. They are in the series 'Planet Rescue' which, if you look on the [http://planetrescue.uk.ubi.com/games/ Planet Reasue website], is a series of different games. I think the confusion was that they are both by Ubisoft. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 10:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think I just saw the american website and they seem to be in the petz series there. What are we going to do now because in the uk they're not in the Petz series and in the UK they are. Maybe we should just have a seperate series for Petz Rescue/Planet Rescue. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 13:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
== games ==
I just found out that My Puppy Family and Petz Dogz Pack are the same games. I was looking on Google for Catz images and I found a link to a new Petz website. Unfortunately I didn't make a note of the address or anything. But I saw a video of it and a very simular video is on the petz website that I'd seen before. --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 13:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:This is a link: http://petz.us.ubi.com/#/dogz-pack --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 13:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
== The Merging ==
How about we have sub-categories for the games, but the info on those pages will ''also'' be on the Petz category. And also, how about adding <nowiki>[[Category:Petz]]</nowiki> to all games in the Petz series? Because why should they all be in their sub-serieses and not in the main one? If they're in both, then that's problem solved, and people won't be as confused --[[User:Melon247|<font color="red">Me</font><font color="green">lon</font>]][[User_talk:Melon247|<font color="orange">2</font><font color="purple">4</font><font color="blue">7</font>]] 12:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:Currently we only put the most immediate series on games, because the series is in turn picked up by the parent series. I'm for keeping the sub-series separate from the Petz category because I think it's more helpful to users who like the game they're playing and want to find another one most like it. As for the information, a one to two sentence blurb on the Petz page should be sufficient, while the bulk of the information (if there ever is any) should go on the individual sub-series category pages. That's what makes most sense to me anyway. - [[User:Najzere|'''naj''']][[User_talk:Najzere|<font color="green">zere</font>]] 15:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
== Categories ==
With the games that are basically under "other" in the Petz series or similar, should we just put the series as Petz? For example, under the Wanted Categories bit I saw a Monkeyz category. There are two games in it; [[Petz: Monkey Madness]] and [[Petz: Crazy Monkeyz]]. The only page that links to it is the page it's on ([[Petz: Monkey Madness]]). Also there are other games such as Bunnyz (currently in the Petz category anyway) and Petz: Vet which don't go in their own series since they're the only games that would be in there. {{User:Melon247/My sig}} 09:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:[[:Category:Mario]] does it, so why not Petz. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 01:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::Should we have all the games here or just the ones that don't fit under Dogz, Catz, Hamsterz, etc.? I mean, we could easily just add Category:Petz to the Petz template (in an includeonly tag, I should think). {{User:Melon247/My sig}} 12:53, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
:::It's best how they are right now with games in the most specific category. It's redundant to categorize a game by its series and by its series' parent series. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 15:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
== Petz Category split ==
Was the PC Petz category decided upon or created?  If a decision was made, the category should be set up and links created, even if we don't have the actual games that belong. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 01:57, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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