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== How do I go to the forbidden tunnel on the avatar level in spy room dawn of dragons ==
== Backward compatibility ==
 
Currently, there is a consideration to add all platforms that a game is playable on to its infobox. This includes platforms that offer backward compatibility (for example, all PS4 games can be purchased on the PS5's digital storefront, even though those games were not made for the PS5). The question then becomes how to handle this for platforms that offer limited backward compatibility (for example, the original DS and DS Lite models could play all GBA games, but this feature was discontinued with the DSi). Any thoughts? --[[User:E-123Wario54|<span style="color:Purple">'''Wario'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:E-123Wario54|<span style="color:Blue">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
:I think we should cover this information, but with BC being inconsistent, we would need some kind of clarification. I think the easiest solution is a template like {{t|bc|ps5}} in the infobox, which links to the <code>#Backwards compatibility</code> section on the relevant system's page, which can go into how BC is supported on that system. The infobox could look something like this:
:<pre>|systems=[[PlayStation 2]], {{bc|ps3}}</pre>
:A related question would be purpose-built backwards compatibility like [[Super Game Boy]], which allows you to play GB games on SNES. I think it supports everything that [[Game Boy]] supports, but some games have "special features", like special borders and colour schemes. Would these count as supported systems, or BC? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 19:42, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
::Still hoping to get more feedback on this one. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 00:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Now with {{t|syslist}}, perhaps we can have {{t|bclist}}? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 23:06, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking the best course of action is probably having a <code>|bcsystems=</code> parameter in the infobox with a {{t|bcsyslist}} template. This way we can modify the layout in the future (either show it with the systems, or as a separate row), and we can have more unique categorization options for each system. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 02:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
:I think splitting them to two groups is fine. I would not treat hardware extensions like SGB the same as I would say the Wii playing GCN games. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


I finished the level and then decided not to go forth to dragons city but to go back and get things I missed and now I have no idea how to find the entrance to the forbidden tunnel.
A topic that came up on discord yesterday was the {{c|Wii Virtual Console}} situation where games were sold on new platforms, but using emulation. In particular the fact that without the category the main {{c|Wii}} category is filled with irrelevant entries. My opinion is that it was a mistake to remove the category, it is needed to keep the main system category free of clutter.--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 17:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


Please help -- {{unsigned|174.109.238.182}}
== {{c|Multiplayer}} ==
:Are you talking about [[The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon/Dragon City|this Spyro guide]]? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 15:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)


== The Welcome to StrategyWiki notice won't go away even if I mark it read. ==
This category should be split up into more specific categories. At least the following:
* Local multiplayer
* Local co-op
* Local splitscreen multiplayer
* Local hotseat multiplayer
* Online multiplayer
* Online co-op
* MMO
Any others? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 17:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
:Local splitscreen co-op, and maybe instead of "multiplayer" it should be "versus" or "PVP". Also it would be good to have a modelist template. -[[User:BrownDerby|BrownDerby]] ([[User talk:BrownDerby|talk]]) 19:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
::I'm still a bit concerned about the "co-op" term at all. It's really useful to know which games have a co-op mode, but a game has to have multiplayer in some form to allow it, so I'm not sure it exactly fits in with all the other options. Perhaps it should only be a single option that says "yes there is some form of multiplayer co-op".
::* Single player
::* Email multiplayer ([[Civilization]])
::* Multiplayer ([[Contra]])
::* Hot-seat multiplayer ([[Super Mario World]])
::* Split-screen multiplayer ([[GoldenEye 007]])
::* Online multiplayer
::* Massively multiplayer online
::* Co-op
::-- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 20:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
::: Going by this list, it looks like the "coop" designation is orthogonal to the rest. Coop describes the relationship between players, while the rest are how two players share the experience.--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 08:12, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::::Being orthogonal, we could either create categories for every intersection (with multiplayer, so 13 total) or keep it as a separate entry and people could search based on some kind of query (DPL or Cargo). I feel these 8 categories should be enough of a split for most purposes, or is it over-categorization already? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


When I mark it read, it goes away, but if I reload the page or go to a new page, it's back. Super annoying. Not sure if here's where to report that. [[User:Alaharon123|Alaharon123]] ([[User talk:Alaharon123|talk]]) 18:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
== Delete all {{c|Days}} ==


== [[The_Quest/Walkthrough#The_riddle|The Quest (1983)]] ==
As the various {{t|rd}} based templates are disappearing, nothing will be categorized by the days of the year. It makes sense to delete all the day sub-categories like {{c|January 1}}. This leaves the redirects, like [[January 1]]. Simplest would be to delink and delete them all. Does anyone see any potential uses for these pages otherwise? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 00:09, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Honestly no, these categories rarely helped unless someone wanted to know what games were released on their birthday.  I did wonder if a month/year category would be interesting, but probably only for people who religiously chronogame like I do, and I have other sources for that information.  I say let 'em go.  '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:07, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::I agree with the end of days. I think keep things in months as the smallest is fine. As for day pages, with the exception of April 1st which may have inter-site function (and should exclusively be used for that), games should not have listed days as links. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:::If you mean <tt>Category:March</tt>, I feel that's unnecessary since it doesn't really serve a purpose. If you mean at the year-specific level, like <tt>Category:March 2023</tt>, I feel it gets back to the original problem of us having verified data on specific months. Users shouldn't come to us as a source for release dates, even at a monthly level, the primary use of dates, since none of it is verified. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:22, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:This is now done. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 06:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


The game contains the following riddle, and I am struggling to solve it. Google has no answer, either. Any suggestions?
== Fully gut supporting unplayable games ==


: Blue as the sky on a summer day,
It does not make sense that we host coverage of games that are [[:Category:Unplayable games|no longer playable in any capacity]]. Many of these guides were not even well completed either. I would like to nominate the deletion of all to most existing unplayable titles, and implementing a policy that would remove game that have shut down or recently become unplayable otherwise to be deleted after 1 month of its closure. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
: Fresh as a field of just cut hay,
:We should absolutely keep the front pages. The games existed, and we should show that we know of their (one-time) existence. I can see validity to discussing purging all subpages, but some of these games do come back as abandonware. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:55, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
: Deep as the pits beneath the fires of hell,
::And if they do, the main page can be undeleted. Nonexistant/unplayable titles are for Wikipedia, not StrategyWiki. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
: Clear as a note from a pure silver bell,
:::Bumping this conversation. Since then, I have also added several more titles to the list that weren't initially marked for unplayability. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
: Still as a graveyard on a cold winter night,
::::Maybe it'd be better to have just made a new section, but I remain firm that we should remove these titles and they are not applicable to our scope. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 05:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
: Ruthless as a hawk in its death dealing flight,
: As peaceful as a river that flows gently by,
: The question to answer is: "What am I?"


WRONG ANSWERS (so far): water, lake, sea, ocean, lagoon, river, ice, sadness. [[User:Abacos|Abacos]] ([[User talk:Abacos|talk]]) 10:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
== Virtual Console ==
:A well? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 13:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
:: No. After "well", I also tried wellspring, spring, source, abyss, rain. The sphinx says they are all wrong. Maybe the answer is unrelated to water? [[User:Abacos|Abacos]] ([[User talk:Abacos|talk]]) 14:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Try SPHINX? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 18:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
:::: I thought: "He is kidding, the sphinx is not blue nor fresh, and what it says is the very opposite of clear!". I tried and... it worked! This is real "thinking out of the box"! Thanks :) --[[User:Abacos|Abacos]] ([[User talk:Abacos|talk]]) 15:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
::::: It makes perfect sense if you think about how Oedipus first encountered the sphinx.  No matter which version of the riddle he encountered, it ends in the same typically way: "What am I?" [[User:EndymionMallorn|EndymionMallorn]] ([[User talk:EndymionMallorn|talk]]) 03:28, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


== Xevious Arrangement images ==
A discussion was had recently in the Discord about Virtual Console. To be more clear, in a categorical sense, games that were purchasable via Nintendo's Virtual Console should not list the console purchased on a game's infobox. An example is [[Albert Odyssey]] (1993), which while playable via the Super Famicom and Satellaview, were also able to be downloaded on the Japanese Virtual Consoles for Wii and Wii U. These Virtual Console releases are simply emulation, so I believe a consensus should be reached on whether the modern consoles names are completely removed, kept on there, or if a new category for Virtual Consoles should be added.
[[User:Auxillify|Auxillify]] ([[User talk:Auxillify|talk]]) 22:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
:Wii VC and similar were all removed since they're more like distributors than systems. You still play the game on your Wii system, though it is emulated (officially provided by the manufacturer, rather than 3rd party). There's a lot of systems that would need to be (re)created to re-categorize like this, and I'm not sure they're all as simple as running through an emulator.
:* [[Nintendo Switch Online]] + Expansion Pack
:* [[PlayStation Network]]
:* [[Xbox Live Arcade]]
:* [[Wii Virtual Console]]
:* [[Wii U Virtual Console]]
:* [[Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console]]
:One idea brought up on discord was to handle these like the [[Super Game Boy]]. Categorize them, but don't list them in the infobox. They're similar to accessories to the base system that provide additional functionality (playing old games). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 23:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
::I think VC should be identified as a sales platform and not a system, similar to Steam.  Steam isn't a system, it's a distribution point.  (To complicate matters more, we don't identify Steam games as belonging to the PC system, we say they're Windows and/or Linux games).  We used to have this distinction in the Infobox but then it went away.  I think it's a useful distinction, and I'd be in favor of bringing it back.  Yeah it can become a headache to maintain all of the sources where a game can come from, but that's the point of the wiki; it's a collaborative effort, and it can be achieved through enough users' efforts. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 00:51, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


As a result of missing some of the Sols and Zos in this game (which I feared I would), I have had to move some of the images around; after several screw-ups while attempting to correct the numbering in the descriptions (which I know I will also have to do for the affected areas' pages), I must say that the unnecessary redirects "File:NCV1-XEV Area 10.png", "File:NCV1-XEV Area 13B.png" and "File:NCV1-XEV Area 14C.png" have been marked for deletion (as I have requested that the images "File:NCV1-XEV Area 13A.png" and "File:NCV1-XEV Area 14B.png" should get renamed to the second and third of those titles respectively, in order to make way for images of the Sols that I missed). [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] ([[User talk:Namcorules|talk]]) 11:00, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
==Mods are Asleep==
:Done. :) Let me know if I did anything wrong. --[[User:E-123Wario54|<span style="color:Purple">'''Wario'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:E-123Wario54|<span style="color:Blue">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 20:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Write [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Klondike_lost_game.jpg klondike] walkthroughs. --[[Special:Contributions/45.72.205.4|45.72.205.4]] '''04:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)'''


== Dynamite Düx image ==
== Syscat/data.json ==


I have requested that the image "DD Mortar Wolf.gif" be renamed to "DD Mortar Coyote.gif" (I tried to move it myself yesterday, but the site did not let me, possibly because non-administrators do not have the ability to move pages in namespace of "File" any more); this is because when I created the guide in 2016, I initially obviously thought those enemies were wolves, but according to Hardcore Gaming 101's page for the game, they are coyotes. I have also changed the image's name in the guide's Getting Started page in preparation for this requested move, along with all mentions of the enemies in question on the individual stage pages, so the moving administrator does not have to do it for me. [[User:Namcorules|Namcorules]] ([[User talk:Namcorules|talk]]) 12:12, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
"360" for Xbox 360 doesn't work. -[[User:BrownDerby|BrownDerby]] ([[User talk:BrownDerby|talk]]) 04:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:Done. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 16:18, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:I believe this should be fixed now. Thanks for bringing it up! -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 05:37, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


== Header Nav's swsquaread vs floatingtoc ==
Please add "pv1000" and "pv2000" for Casio PV-1000 and Casio PV-2000. -[[User:BrownDerby|BrownDerby]] ([[User talk:BrownDerby|talk]]) 21:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
:Done. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 05:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


Since swsquaread had been added to {{t|Header Nav}}, should {{t|floatingtoc}} be changed to float left by default? At present, if it floats right then the placement of the ad on the right can move it almost to the center of the page, and if it's longer than the ad then it creates empty space beneath the ad rather than have any text wrap around to fill that space.
== pokemon red generation 1 online trading ==


Additionally, [https://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Floatingtoc&limit=500 floatingtoc has been used on over 2,000 pages], and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's done so to use the previously empty space beside it, particularly when it's long, not just for text but also for tables and images (maps): the addition of swsquaread will have affected the layout at the top of many of those pages. [[User:Onderduiker|Onderduiker]] ([[User talk:Onderduiker|talk]]) 00:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
I recently started playing Pokémon generation 1 - red, and i wanted to know if there is any way I can trade online to complete pokedex?
:I'm tempted to blank the template so it doesn't actually do anything. There's always the possibility the ad gets moved elsewhere in the next version of the skin and the template becomes useful again. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 01:27, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
thank you!
[[User:Bentho|Bentho]] ([[User talk:Bentho|talk]]) 06:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)bentho
:This really isn't an area of expertise for StrategyWiki. It's unclear by what method you are attempting to do this, but regardless, you would be better served posting this question to the r/pokemon subreddit on Reddit, as they are more likely to know the answer to your question. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 02:56, 24 April 2023 (UTC)


:: Floatingtoc is still useful, since nothing can normally be placed beside a standard ToC and some, like on KotORII's [[Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords/Feats|Feats]] page, are so long that even with the new ad there's still plenty of empty space that could be used with a floatingtoc, regardless of whether it's on the left or right (although there'd be more useable space if it were on the left).
== Image Category updates ==


:: I'm planning to upload maps for [[Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic]] (and later its sequel) with numbers corresponding to ToC entries, instead of text labels like those currently on the map for the [[Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Command Module|Command Module]]. {{t|KotOR/Header}} uses a floatingtoc so that it's alongside the map (or screenshot), like a key or legend: I've already reduced the image size to accomodate the ad, and since I use a guide-specific template, I could update it if you blanked floatingtoc (and possibly add introductory paragraphs and summary tables to fill the space beside the ad so that I could enlarge the image again alongside the floating ToC below)... but I'd be surprised if I'm the only one who's used floatingtoc in this way.
[[:Category:Company logos]] and [[:Category:System logos]] are currently in [[:Category:Logos]]
Category:Logos directly seems to contain a mix of series and game-specific logos (mobile games).


:: If the ad is necessary, then I'd suggest trying to move it to the sidebar on the left (perhaps above or below Tools?). If it stays where it is then I can work around it: it's not as bad as Wikia, where those ads have massive columns of empty space beneath them, for the entire page length. [[User:Onderduiker|Onderduiker]] ([[User talk:Onderduiker|talk]]) 20:19, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest we get rid of Category:Logos, and split it into the following 4 categories:
:::Unfortunately, the left sidebar isn't wide enough, and making it wider would take up useful space from the content. Most likely, we'll keep it this way for some time, until the next skin refresh (whenever that happens). That is a good point about the floating toc, I guess it'll just be a matter of seeing where it's use becomes inappropriate. My concern for the very long tocs is that they block a huge column of space below the ad. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 21:41, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
* [[:Category:Logos (game)]]
* [[:Category:Logos (series)]]
* [[:Category:Logos (company)]]
* [[:Category:Logos (system)]]
-- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 19:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


== List of "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>" references? ==
::I retort with have all five. There will always be outliers and exceptions, plus it makes sense to have a unifying root category anyway. Logos/Game logos/Series logos/Company logos/System logos. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 20:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


I acknowledge that I may well be missing something, but I've been looking at things, and I don't see a standardized list of things I can reference in curled brackets - things like {{psx|X}}, {{Kbd|X}}and the like.  Where can I find an easy reference for all of these? [[User:EndymionMallorn|EndymionMallorn]] ([[User talk:EndymionMallorn|talk]]) 03:33, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
== RetroAchievements inclusion ==
:Things in curly braces refer to templates.  So for anything using the <nowiki>{{psx|?}}</nowiki> template, simply visit [[Template:Psx]]. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 03:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you!  Is there a simple-ish list of every template available? [[User:EndymionMallorn|EndymionMallorn]] ([[User talk:EndymionMallorn|talk]]) 04:12, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::You're probably looking for this: [[:Category:Templates]] '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 04:25, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
::::Thank you, I really appreciate that! [[User:EndymionMallorn|EndymionMallorn]] ([[User talk:EndymionMallorn|talk]]) 11:51, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


==Image in the list of Uncategorized Files, but has Categories==
So, since RetroAchievements is a way to enjoy even more RetroGames, and that people on RA would be looking for guides of Retro games, why not include and add achievements/achievements guides to the related games pages?
This file: [[File:SM64_Bob-omb.png]] (SM64_Bob-omb.png) <br/>
Shows up on this page: [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]]<br/>
And yet it has the appropriate categories listed.  I'm not sure exactly what the fix is here, could someone take a look?
[[User:EndymionMallorn|EndymionMallorn]] ([[User talk:EndymionMallorn|talk]]) 11:51, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:I purged cache, and that seems to have fixed the problem. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 16:49, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


== Most popular and most wanted ==
[[User:Arkhane|Arkhane]] ([[User talk:Arkhane|talk]]) 18:54, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
These two lists apeear on the main page, but their meaning is explained nowhere in Strategywiki. I suppose they could be "most visited" and/or "most edited", and even if that is the case, which is which? I asked to some search engine websites (DuckDuckGo, Google), but they are no help, either.


I am asking it just for the pleasure to know. Thanks in advance for any answer :) --[[User:Abacos|Abacos]] ([[User talk:Abacos|talk]]) 13:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
== Policy on WebP images? ==
:Most popular is the guide with the most page views. It's based on the DPL query. Most wanted is the guide that most people have hit the "edit" links in for the week. It's supposed to be updated by my bot, but it hasn't been run in some time. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 16:37, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


== Games with an updated version ==
I notice that [[Help:Images#Image_Formats|the policy on image formats]] does not mention [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP WebP]. I assume PNGs are currently preferred over WebP for lossless raster images, correct? [[User:Iridium Context|Iridium Context]] ([[User talk:Iridium Context|talk]]) 16:28, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:It's generally better to stick to the original format an image is available in. I believe webp uploads are allowed, so if the image comes in that format it should be fine. It would be better not to convert to webp as it doesn't have as widespread support as the other formats. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


I never thought about this, but I suppose it would be wise to ask. I am currently working on setting up pages for the Senran Kagura series, and am confused about what to do with the first game in the series, Shoujotachi no Shinei (Portrait of Girls, as it is literally translated). It never crossed my mind, but Senran Kagura Burst is the updated re-release of the game that added a story for Homura and the then-Hebijo girls on top of the main story from Portrait of Girls. I don't know whether to count both of them as separate games, but combine them into a singular Table of Contents or if I should scrap the page for Shoujotachi no Shinei and just do Burst. - [[User:JeffMandM|JeffMandM]] ([[User talk:JeffMandM|talk]]) 17:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
== Proper image classification for sprites masquerading as 3D models? ==


:It's kind of up to you how you'd like to proceed.  Making two separate guides when most of the content is identical isn't very ideal.  You can see how we dealt with stuff like this in the [[Dragon Warrior III]] guide, or the [[Super Mario Bros. 2]] guide, which had to take [[Super Mario Advance]] into account.  Or you can treat it like an expansion pack, similar to how we structured the [[Diablo]] guide.  You have a couple of choices, just look around the site to see how other games tackled the problem, and choose the approach that seems most suitable to you.  '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:38, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
[[Skaphander: Der Auftrag]] treats enemies and items as points (not polygonal models) in the 3D scene and renders them as distance-scaled sprites at the appropriate place in the Z order. For example, see [https://www.myabandonware.com/media/screenshots/s/skaphander-der-auftrag-xzt/skaphander-der-auftrag_5.png this screenshot], where the viruses look like 3D models to try to blend in with the rest of the scene (which is true 3D), but if you look closely, they're actually both the same sprite just at different scales. Is "sprite" still the correct [[Template:File#Parameters|image type]] to use for uploads even if these are not sprites used in the traditional sense? [[User:Iridium Context|Iridium Context]] ([[User talk:Iridium Context|talk]]) 16:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


== I don't have permission to create a new page, e.g. edit a new page ==
:I would say they probably qualify still as sprites, yes. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 19:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


As the guidelines say I should have the right to edit and create a new page. But on the page - please see my history - is no edit button and a text calls my attention that I do not have permission to edit. What is the problem? [[Special:Contributions/2.205.170.50|2.205.170.50]] 21:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
== Content variation by difficulty level? ==
:I'm not sure if we've opened up the permissions to allow anonymous users to create new pages, although I don't recall if we actually choose to restrict it.  It might help if you just create a new account.  They're completely anonymous, and only help to identify who submitted what work.  If gone ahead and started [[History Line: 1914-1918/Artifical Intelligence]] for you.  Just submit the new content between the Header and Footer Navs.  '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 22:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
::Danke. Thank you. I will fill it tomorrow. [[Special:Contributions/2.205.170.50|2.205.170.50]] 23:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
:Editing is open to all anonymous users, but creating new pages is restricted until users have a few good edits. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 00:58, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


== <nowiki>{{ToC}}</nowiki> injecting an extra blank paragraph ==
At [[Skaphander: Der Auftrag]] I was thinking it would be nice to vary the walkthrough text and images by difficulty level, a lot like is done with {{t|Control selector}} and {{t|Control}} for different platforms, rather than constantly having to describe three possible cases (easy, medium, and hard) in the prose. However, those templates rely on [[MediaWiki:Gadget-ControlSelector.js]] to function. I could abuse it, making templates that provide a controller selector reskinned to look like a difficulty selector, but that wouldn't work if some hypothetical game wants to vary page content by both platform and difficulty level. Would StrategyWiki be open to having a new JavaScript gadget to support a {{t|Difficulty selector}}/{{t|Difficulty}} pair that plays nicely with the controls templates? I would be willing to write the JavaScript, and I would keep it short and readable so that it could be reviewed to allay any security concerns. [[User:Iridium Context|Iridium Context]] ([[User talk:Iridium Context|talk]]) 15:13, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not a fan of hiding content with js. With controls, it's not a big deal for someone to figure out an associated control if the wrong one is showing. But with walkthrough content, it could be frustrating if someone didn't notice the selector switch. Depending on how different the difficulty variations are, it could be simpler to just have sidebars to explain the differences (small changes), separate different sections on each page (large changes), or even separate pages for each difficulty (extensive changes). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


Hey all, check out this formatting bug I found. It is adding a blank <nowiki><p><br></p></nowiki> which adds almost an inch of white space to the main page of a guide. Any ideas of why it is there or how to fix it? It is not part of the ToC template itself, and I'm not aware of a way for CSS to inject it, so there must be a wiki backend code adding it?
== Attribute anonymous edit ==


[[File:Staff Lounge injecting paragraph 2019-03-14.png|thumb|left|600px]]
Hi there, I just made an edit but forgot to log in. Is there any chance it could be linked to my username instead of the IP? The edit was at [[Battlefield 3/Table of Contents]]. Thank you. [[User:Hypolar|Hypolar]] ([[User talk:Hypolar|talk]]) 17:39, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
{{-}}
:Unfortunately, it's not really straightforward to re-attribute edits. If you're concerned about the IP being visible, we can hide the IP. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 22:14, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
::Yes, if you could hide it please that would be great, thank you! [[User:Hypolar|Hypolar]] ([[User talk:Hypolar|talk]]) 23:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Done. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 01:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you so much! [[User:Hypolar|Hypolar]] ([[User talk:Hypolar|talk]]) 12:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== SVG, Motion Control, Mouse 4 & 5, PS Vita, and Steam button icons ==
# I'd like to have the button icons to be in SVG file format because it is less blurry than PNG or JPG.<br>
# The Wii button template only has a shake icon for the Wii Remote, but there needs to be more motion control icons like tilt, thrust, and shake for each template that supports motion controls.<br>
# There are two mouse buttons on the side known as "Mouse 4" and "Mouse 5". It would be nice to include those two buttons in the mouse template.<br>
# I already did the L & R PlayStation buttons, but all I need next is the Rear Touch Pad on the PS Vita.<br>
# Valve's games' controls are different on Steam Controller and Steam Deck from their console versions, so it would be nice to include Steam Controller and Steam Deck button icons.<br>
[[User:Gorilli09|Gorilli09]] ([[User talk:Gorilli09|talk]]) 11:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


--{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 20:20, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
:# Great.  When you find any, let us know and we'll import them.
:This generally happens when the ToC is transcluded, or are you seeing it on every page? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 20:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
:# Again, find a good source for them and we'll import them.
:# What games use a 4th and 5th mouse button?  And how would you even represent them?
:# Find a model for what a rear touch pad icon should look like.
:# What's unique about Steam Deck and Steam Controllers that an X-Box One controller doesn't have?
:This stuff doesn't appear out of thin air.  Someone would actually have to make all of this, and I'm a little uncertain as to how useful they would be under general circumstances.  '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
::I have a set of icons for the Steam Deck that I'll upload when I can get around to them. I do have icon sets for PS3/PS4/PS5/Vita, but they have different colour schemes between them, and are very different from all our other styles. They're also all PNG. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 03:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I tried making SVG versions of Switch button icons, but it looks like the MW software just turns it into a PNG anyway. Some of them might work as HTML + CSS, though. [[User:Wanderer|Wanderer]] ([[User talk:Wanderer|talk]]) 01:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
::::The mediawiki software will convert it to png, but it'll scale it first, so it should still have many of the SVG benefits. MediaWiki will support native SVG starting in 1.41, but it may be some time before we can enable that setting. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 01:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


::It appears inconsistent. Examples I am comparing: [[The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past]] (the empty paragraph is injected here) versus [[Mega Man X]] (no extra paragraph). --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 01:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
==Launchbox Images==


::Also, while comparing it is clear that there is a bunch of extra white space we could kill by minimizing the bottom margin of <nowiki><h2 id="editToC"></nowiki> to between -0.5em to 0em (my vote is for -0.5em, though 0em may guarantee better viewing compatibility overall). The example code I am suggesting as a fix is:
Hello! Just wanted to ask a question regarding images from LaunchBox Games Database. Are they off-limits? Can I use specific ones? Please let me know. Thank you for your time. [[User:GamingBound|GamingBound]] ([[User talk:GamingBound|talk]]) 13:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
<pre>.mw-body h2 {
    margin: 2em 0 1em;
    margin-bottom: -0.5em;
}</pre>
--{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 01:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


:::On ALttP, there's the featured template at the top, perhaps that's causing problems? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 01:40, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
== Suggestion: Steam link in game infobox ==


::::Good eye, I am investigating that. Another suggestion: move the featured icons down a bit because they get discolored from the top navigation fade in. I am suggesting a margin-top:0.25em and margin-right:0.25em. This would be for div id="#mw-indicator-featured". --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 03:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
E.G. |steam=2731870 would link to [https://store.steampowered.com/app/2731870/ this]. This could also automatically link to [https://pcgamingwiki.com/api/appid.php?appid=2731870 PCGW]. -[[User:BrownDerby|BrownDerby]] ([[User talk:BrownDerby|talk]]) 17:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:I've avoided linking steam directly since I'd rather leave it to users to figure out how to procure their games, without promoting a specific storefront. Steam is the largest online game store, and is generally just a search away, so I don't think the additional effort from editors would help users as much. One thing I've been considering is linking to archive.org's archives of some of the very old games that are much harder to find these days, which are playable online ([https://archive.org/details/msdos_Super_Solvers_Treasure_Mountain_1990 example]). I've been tempted to remove <s>Twitter</s>X (28 uses) due to recent changes on the platform, and re-assessing twitch (37 uses)/fb (18 uses) as well.
:I'd be much more inclined to link to [[wikidata:Property:P9075|wikidata]] though, which should be available for all games, not just PC. They currently link to almost 3k of our guides, so it wouldn't be too hard to have a bot connect those up. However, most of those are from PCGW already. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 01:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


:::::I tracked down some help documentation. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Page_status_indicators This help page] says [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:OutputPage.php OutputPage.php] contains the setIndicators() function. More pertinent, [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning_Part_2#Page_status_indicators this page] lays out the output of setIndicators, with no mention of a paragraph. Only the icon's div at the top right. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 04:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
== Creating too many articles at a time ==


::::::Ok so the main oddity is that the ToC itself does not have the <nowiki><p><br></p></nowiki> present. So that means it is being added on the main LTTP page from another mechanism (or as you said at the start, most likely from transclusion). I assume this is a well known bug, but can't find a report for it. To overcome this, I simply hardcoded the table of contents by replacing <nowiki>{{ToC}}</nowiki> with:
I'm getting concerned about getting banned on the website, because I created too many articles at a time. Is this a problem? [[User:Gorilli09|Gorilli09]] ([[User talk:Gorilli09|talk]]) 15:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
<pre>
: What matters is not quantity, but quality. And we are lenient on good faith edits.--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]])
{{-}}
:Your edits are positive, so low chance of being banned. However, if you could fill in the main pages a bit, that would be appreciated. Just a few sentences about the release (contents of the infobox in sentence form) and maybe a paragraph of what gameplay is like would help a lot. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 20:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
==Table of Contents==
{{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Table of Contents}}
{{-}}
</pre>
--{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 04:34, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
:That's actually why I put the featured template on the same line as the noinclude. By having it on a separate line it adds an extra line break which is interpreted as a new paragraph. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 04:53, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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