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| == Welcome to StrategyWiki! ==
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| Hello '''RobJ1981'''! Welcome to StrategyWiki. Thank you for [[Special:Contributions/RobJ1981|your contributions]]. If you have any questions, just contact [[StrategyWiki:Administrators|a sysop]] through their talk page or post on [[StrategyWiki:Staff lounge|the staff lounge]], and they'd be happy to help. If you need help editing, check the [[StrategyWiki:Guide|StrategyWiki Guide]]. If you have a question about the content on this wiki, you can check out our [[StrategyWiki:Staff lounge|staff lounge]] page. If you want to ask questions or hang out in IRC, we're [irc://irc.abxy.org/strategywiki usually around]. On the other hand, if you have ideas for StrategyWiki, bring them up on the [[StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal|community portal talk]] page. Please remember to sign your name on, and '''only''' on, talk pages by clicking [[Image:Wikisigbutton.png]] or using four tildes ('''<nowiki>~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki>'''); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to '''always fill in the edit summary field''' as this helps to document all of your hard work. Feel free to delete this message from your talk page if you like, or keep it for reference. Happy editing! -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2008 (CST)
| | :Yeah… That's what I thought. See ya Rob. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 19:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC) |
| :Unfortunately, most of us who used to be on irc all the time, can't be on nearly as much. However, this weekend we'll be having a meeting on irc (check the [[StrategyWiki:Calendar]] for details), and you are welcome to join us. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 21:45, 6 March 2008 (CST)
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| ::[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Skizzerz]] and [[User:Tathar|Tathar]] are in there the most. I try to come in whenever I'm wikiing or playing games. Try to come as much as possible - we would really like to have more of an interactive community. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:01, 6 March 2008 (CST)
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| :::Thanks for the reminder. We do check it every now and then, but we try to only delete when we have to (and once the discussion is resolved). That AOF discussion was from January, and the person never followed up. I guess it's time to close that. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 17:25, 10 March 2008 (CDT) | |
| ::::Come in IRC, me and DrBob are in. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 01:59, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == [[X-Men Legends]] collaboration ==
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| Hey Rob, I was wondering if you wanted to team up with me to write a guide for this game. I own the GameCube version and I've beaten it once before (I can't really remember my team except that I used Ice Man the most). I went ahead and created the main game page and set up the ToC. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 01:18, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
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| :Well, I mean, this is pretty casual so whenever you can add something please do so - collabs go much faster because we prompt each other to clean up and correct the others' work. I'm probably not going to focus on this 100% until I feel the [[Mythos]] guide is pretty stable, and probably before the new patch comes out. So yeah, in the next few weeks we should try and get it done. I wish I had a TV tuner to get screenshots. Maybe with my next PC. I might take photos, however that usually doesn't end up too nice. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 01:39, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Categories on redirects ==
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| We put the correct categories on redirects for alternate official names for a game, so that people who (for example) buy the game in Europe when the guide's written for the American name for the game can actually find the game. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 02:11, 11 March 2008 (CDT)
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| :As a minor note about this, you don't need to add the Games category, it's automatic (and I'd say even avoided, incase we change the way we do things). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 21:25, 17 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Sega Swirl ==
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| The [[Sega Swirl]] article is a "onepage" article, meaning it's complete and all on one page (there's not enough content to subpage it), so it doesn't need subpaging. You can tell a onepage article, as the Header Nav will have the |onepage parameter passed. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:16, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == needinfobox ==
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| I appreciate you're trying to be helpful, but there's no need to put {{t|needinfobox}} on pages which have full standard infoboxen — needinfobox is meant to indicate that the page has missing data for the ''required'' fields of the infobox; not that it has missing data for the optional fields. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:18, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
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| :I'd like to add ''why'' such missing data isn't necessary - by asking a question: how do you know that there is missing data? Perhaps if you knew, you would add it. You may think there is something missing, but what if it doesn't exist? What if it does exist, or what if there is more than what you expect? I guess I had more to say than just one question, but yes, a stub is a stub and the people who know or want to help will investigate to expand what we already have (or lack). Mange tak, --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 02:44, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Item Lists ==
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| Basically it comes down to what makes the most sense. Most of the time I try to replicate what the items look like in game - for instance the categories they exist in, etc. Also, you can separate them by type - like battle-only items, or mixed/non-battle items (and then other categories like quest/non-use items). For alphabatization, the best thing to do is to convert it to table format, use the {{t|prettytable}} template with the "sortable=1" parameter so that it can be sorted as the viewer wishes. In the case of the table entries, alphabatization works best if the items all have different properties, but arranging them by, say, how much they all heal by would make sense if they ALL healed, you know? Hope that helps. Also, if you want me to convert the list to tables, I'll be happy to do so (should take me just a little while to do so). --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 14:34, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Puzzle games ==
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| Hi. I changed it to puzzle games going on the categorisation of [[WarioWare: Smooth Moves]], and I think it's broadly an appropriate category. However, I do share your concerns, and I think it warrants further discussion, most likely leading to the creation of a new category as you suggest. Why don't you bring it up on the [http://forums.strategywiki.org/ forums]? --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 15:36, 15 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Log in ==
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| We're having some problems with the server at the moment. If you want to continue editing, it'll continue to put your username to your edits even though it says your IP address at the top of the page. Sorry about this. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 02:47, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
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| :Should be working now. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 13:33, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Completion Stages ==
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| It's up to user discretion - you can upgrade it yourself if you feel it meets the general criteria of each completion stage (see each category for more specifics). Basically it's 0 for a stub or empty guide, 1 for having subpages, 2 for starting the walkthrough, 3 for a basically completed walkthrough, 4 four a completed guide, and featured for a full guide with all the additional parts completed. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 19:51, 22 March 2008 (CDT)
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| : Guides only need peer review when someone wants to push them to stage 5, basically. Thanks for all your hard work. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 02:17, 23 March 2008 (CDT)
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| == Fighting games ==
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| Information on fighting games is arranged in two ways. 1) Each game page shows the move lists for the entire cast of that game (if possible. Sometimes size is a factor and they simply have to be broken up.) 2) Each character that belongs to a fighting game series has a character page for that series where all of the move lists for every game that he or she appears in is presented. The moves themselves are contained on a single page which is intended to be transcluded in two locations; the game page and the character page to which that list of moves applies. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 16:30, 3 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Date Categories ==
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| We are making changes - see http://forums.strategywiki.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=26162
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| {{t|rd}} has been updated to automate the display of categories, and we now display all dates for a game. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 15:45, 5 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Game categories ==
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| If you want to create a mini-game category, I think it would be fine. However, I think it would be more appropriate to label the genre as the Party Game genre, as that is how most of the industry identifies games such as Mario Party, Pac-Man Fever, Raving Rabbids etc. I do have one other favor to ask. I recently spent a lot of time repositioning the move lists for many Capcom fighters. One thing I forgot to do was to move the Move Lists category off the front page and onto the moves pages that I created. If you're in the mood to help out with that, I would appreciate it. If not, no worries, I can take care of it later. I just though I'd ask. Thanks. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 14:01, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :If you look at [[Street Fighter II]], it has [[:Category:Game move lists]]. That was OK when the move lists were located on the same page, but I moved the move lists to [[Street Fighter II/Moves]], and I forgot to move the category with it. Pretty much all of the Street Fighter and Darkstalkers games have this category and I should have moved them, but I forgot to. Eventually, all of the fighting game will be like this, but for now, it's just the Capcom games. Thanks again. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 14:31, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :P.S. Just FYI, we also have a [[:Category:Character move lists]] for individual character pages.
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| ::Wow, I just looked at that category, and there are actually a number of pages missing it that should have had it. This includes every game in the [[Street Fighter II]], [[Street Fighter Alpha]], [[Street Fighter EX]], and [[Street Fighter EX]] series. It looks like most of the [[Marvel vs. Capcom]] games and [[Darkstalkers]] games had them correctly. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 14:33, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
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| Awesome, thanks again. BTW, I'd be interested in hearing about your experience with the load times for the move lists. They tend to be on the slow side for most users, but it varies from one person to the next. Let me know how quickly they came up for you. Thanks. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 14:57, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :Game A was released for Console X as a standalone game, Game B was released as a compilation with Game A included on Console Y. Game A gets Console X category, but not Console Y. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 15:39, 8 April 2008 (CDT)
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| ::Yeah, look at [[Namco Museum Vol. 1]] and [[Pac-Man]] for example. Pac-Man is listed for a ''lot'' of systems, but the [[PlayStation]] isn't one of them. We only categorize a game for a system if that specific title was released for the system. In other words, just because Pac-Man was playable on the PlayStation, does not mean that Namco released a game with the title [[Pac-Man]] for the [[PlayStation]]. See what I mean? However, [[Pac-Man]] ''was'' released for the [[Game Boy Advance]] (as a NES Classic) title, in addition to being included in several compilations, so the GBA ''should'' listed as a category for Pac-Man, and I just now realized it isn't :o [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 15:53, 8 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Compilations == | |
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| "Should games part of a compilation (such as Dr. Mario that was part of a Nintendo Puzzle collection)" - no. The Dr. Mario game should not be listed as such, but you can reference the compilation(s) on the Dr. Mario page to educate people anyways. I'm 80% sure that's our policy, and if you make changes, other admins will see it/correct if necessary. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 20:08, 8 April 2008 (CDT) | |
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| ==Thanks==
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| <div class="thankyou">[[Image:cookie icon.gif|left|80px|{{{2|Example mario image}}}]] '''A little thank you…''' <br /><small>For categorisation and ToCiness. <br />Hugs, [[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 11:18, 9 April 2008 (CDT)</small></div>
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| I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you're doing on cleaning categories and ToCs up. Have a pixellated cookie. ;-) I know how boring it is, but I hope you realise how much it's appreciated. If you keep this up, and perhaps take a more active role in things like the [[StrategyWiki:Cleanup project|cleanup project]] as a whole, you'll be well on your way to being nominated for sysop status. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 11:18, 9 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :Many of us who watch [[Special:Recentchanges]] notice your work :). If you feel an article is ready to be put to cs5, [[StrategyWiki:Featured guides/Current requests|nominate it]] and we'll see what happens. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 16:10, 9 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :Make a list of three or four stage 4 guides you think should be promoted, and even if they need some minor/cosmetic work still done to them, list them on the nomination page. We can work out what needs doing to spruce them up from there. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:55, 9 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Spore ==
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| I don't think it really matters. I would personally wait until more information's available to do the split, but if you're confident those details are not going to change, feel free to go ahead. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:44, 10 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Japanese name redirects ==
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| Hi Rob. I really appreciate that you're making redirects for Japanese names of games. However, since it's difficult for people to type ā or ō, or altered vowels of that nature, we try to provide redirects that don't require them. Usual ā is just a or ah, and ō is either oo or ou (the latter is more common). It's a tough call, and you don't want to have to make redirects for every possible permutation, so look around the web for common spellings, and then go with your best educated guess. But thanks again. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 13:16, 11 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :Sorry, I'm being nit-picky here, but... The other rule is that if a title is spelled out in Katakana, as is the case for Super Princess Peach, which is written as [http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/61P6EPES7PL._SS400_.jpg スーパープリンセスピーチ], then the game doesn't have to be phonetically translated as Supa Purinsesu Peechu. When the Japanese spell something out with Katakana, they are intended to use a foreign language for the title, English in most cases. So if you asked a Japanese person what the name スーパープリンセスピーチ meant, they would literally respond with "Super Princess Peach". Fire Emblem is another conundrum. In that case, you have both Katakana and Kanji for ファイアーエムブレム 蒼炎の軌跡. The Katakana part is literally inteded to mean "Fire Emblem," so the correct Japanese redirect name would be Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki. Those spellings that you see in wikipedia (such as Faiā Emuburemu) are intended to be pronunciation guides, not literal translations of the title. The Kanji part is intended to be spoken in Japanese, so Souen no Kiseki is appropriate. Let me know if you have any questions. I hope you understand. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 13:45, 11 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Lyrics ==
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| There is no infringement on copyright to post lyrics. If that were the case, all of the hundreds of lyrics sites would be shut down. Since we are offering the lyrics for free with no charge, it falls under the same fair use policy as the images of box artwork or screenshots. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 11:14, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :Those lyrics are to be moved to another location eventually. For now, we're leaving them until the new location is set up. For now, don't worry about it :). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 00:57, 15 April 2008 (CDT)
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| ::Yeah, Prod said what I was going to say. Call it a) a proof of concept, b) nostalgic embelishment, or c) the perk of being a sysop and getting to make the rules. Ultimately, we hope to start a companion wiki that will concentrate on video game history and terminology rather than strategy to keep to purpose of this wiki distinct. One said wiki is constructed, the Pac-Man Fever lyrics will move there permanently. Until then, the inclusion of the lyrics is pretty much a favor granted to me by Echelon. I still own the original vinyl album ^_^ [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 09:10, 15 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Tekken 6 ==
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| [http://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Tekken_6%2FTable_of_Contents&diff=260634&oldid=260519 Fixed]. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 14:16, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Nintendo EAD ==
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| Excellent! I unfortunately won't be able to give you a hand, but I'm sure you'll get along fine. There's no rush. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:12, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :If you give me a list of pages and the categories that need to be changed, I can have my bot do it next weekend. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 23:58, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
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| ::It can add, remove, or change categories, and replace one text string with another, which should be all that is necessary for the changes. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 00:47, 14 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Controller templates ==
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| Is [[:Category:Controller button templates]] what you're looking for? Not quite sure. I also just discovered that [[Template:Cade]] is not included there, but it's a tough call to say whether or not is should be. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 16:04, 16 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Series categories ==
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| It's generally a waste of time to create stubbed series categories with no content, as people can get the games listings anyway, and a stubbed category just provides a false sense of completion. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 17:57, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
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| : If you plan to expand them, that's OK, but my point is that it's just as easy to create them when you write the actual content, and leave ones for which you're not going to write content alone. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 05:48, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Sysopness ==
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| I've [[StrategyWiki:Requests for adminship/RobJ1981|nominated you for sysopness]]. Please accept the nomination (if you want to), and answer the questions on the nomination page. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 11:02, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
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| : Success! You're now a sysop. Make sure you refresh any knowledge of the [[StrategyWiki:Guide/Admin_guide|admin guide]], and use your new powers wisely. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 12:50, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
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| ::Congrats Rob, and welcome to the underground xD I really need to get around to starting that X-Men legends guide... I'm currently trying to complete [[Kirby Air Ride]] 100% so it will be a while... --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 20:06, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :: Congratulations Rob ^_^ Keep up the great work! [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 21:07, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Image:Atari7800Photograph.jpg ==
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| The cleanup tag's on there because it's actually a PNG image, but is named as if it were a JPG. You can tell it's a PNG by looking at the MIME type ("image/png"), which is stated just below the image itself. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 00:49, 22 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Metroid Prime ==
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| You're right; we don't normally encourage that kind of content, but I don't think it does any harm in this case. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 01:16, 22 April 2008 (CDT)
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| :I've gotten rid of the reception section, that's completely outside our scope. The development section is debatable, and I'd say get rid of it... -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 04:13, 22 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Boilerplate templates for talk pages ==
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| Just to let you know, but every single boilerplate template we have for talk pages ({{t|Welcome}}, {{t|Vandalism warning}} and the like) automatically add your signature, so putting <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> after it is pointless. Also, grats on your sysopness :) PS - come onto [[StrategyWiki:IRC|IRC]] a bit more often now that you ''are'' a sysop... it gets lonely in there. --{{User:Ryan Schmidt/sig3}} 21:10, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Misspellings list ==
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| It is just a list of links to searches for those phrases, so put whatever misspelt word it is you want in with the same format as the others, and then click the link to find all the pages where it's used; they'll have to be fixed manually. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:20, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
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| : Yes. If an author writes a page in British English, it should not be "corrected" to American English, and any future additions to that page should theoretically be in British English too. The same applies to pages originally written in American English. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 16:27, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
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| == Madden ==
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| Yeah, go ahead and merge it into the passing tips page. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|talk]]) 17:03, 28 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Image renames ==
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| Download, upload under new name with credits given to all previous uploaders. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 21:40, 30 April 2008 (CDT)
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| == Request for help ==
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| Hi Rob. I just took a shot at filling [[The Legend of Zelda/Table of Contents]] out with all of the page links that were missing. While I feel like I set it up hierarchically correct, it still kinda looks like a mess. I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a shot at it and seeing what you could do with it. Thanks very much! [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 16:50, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
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| == SSBM merges ==
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| I agree with you. I think the Easter Eggs and Misc section can be merged under a more generic "Secrets" page. As for the Glossary, I'm not sure what to do with that. It's a useful page if the other character moves pages refer to those terms. In the case of that page, you'd actually have to hunt for a better place for it to be, without losing it's visibility. Readers may become confused if the necessary information isn't present to explain their meanings. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 13:54, 3 May 2008 (CDT)
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| :We rarely place external links directly within a guide - most commonly external resources appear on the main page under <nowiki>==External Links==</nowiki> below the ToC, and only if they provide something necessary that the guide doesn't. --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 19:34, 3 May 2008 (CDT)
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| ::I understood what you meant Rob, and although the answer is currently no, I think it's an excellent idea. Some kind of reference repository. Sprite archive sites and box art sites could be added to it as well. We should bring this up in the next (postponed) staff meeting. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 21:16, 3 May 2008 (CDT)
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| :::Well, up until now such a thing as been in the back of our heads - a secret rarely spoken of between community members. Aaaany ways, I think it's a good topic for next week's meeting. The one thing we will probably agree on is not linking to other broad scope gaming wikis or cheat websites (gfaqs/gspot). --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 23:51, 3 May 2008 (CDT)
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