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I changed it because manoeuverability isn't a word that is easily read at first try. I scanned through the sentence and put in "maneuvers at your pick" to make it easier to read, at least for me. Feel free to edit it back if you think otherwise.--[[User:Dan|Dan]] 13:18, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

I thought that my edits just didn't end up getting saved, I didn't realize someone has removed them. Can you please epxlain to me how I make sub-pages though? I'd be more than happy to make them for [[Diablo II:Lord of Destruction]] if you tell me how.

: A better method of replying is just to reply in your own talk page, using a colon and space before your reply to indent it. :-) Another good thing to do is sign your messages, using the signature button in the edit toolbar. Your edits were saved fine, but I removed all the links. To make sub-pages, simply create links to them (e.g. [[Diablo II: Lord Of Destruction/Kashya]]), follow the links, and create the page as you would any other page. (Or you could go straight to the URL, but it's easier to make the link first.) I removed the links instead of changing them to sub-pages as I didn't know if – for example – you wanted [[Diablo II: Lord Of Destruction/Characters/Kashya]], or [[Diablo II: Lord Of Destruction/Kashya]] — it all depends on how you want things organised, and that's not up to me. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] 15:18, 29 May 2006 (PDT)

In wikipedia, you often link to the day and year of something just as a novelty, and you'll often have a category for movies released in 1999, etc. It's useful to look up games or movies by a specific year to observe trends and see what it's comparable to. But categorizing games by the days on which they were released just seems fairly ridiculous, and the overlap of April 2nd games for example is just likely to be meaningless.--[[User:BigCow|BigCow]] 21:40, 16 June 2006 (PDT)

::: You should probably make these points in community issues. "The number of people who are going to look up a game released on their birthday seems extremely small" That was just an example, but I admit there aren't a great many uses. "Categories take up room at the bottom" There isn't a limit to the size of the bottom bar; it does stretch. "they should only be used for actual categories the article falls into" However much you argue that it's not worth it, a game will always fall into the category of its release date. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&action=edit&section=new Talk]) 09:54, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Based on the amount of work you're doing here, especially of the organizational nature, I've decided that you should have administrative permissions to better be able to do things. (So long as you don't mind having it, that is.) I'll probably make a few more of the regulars administrators as well. Enjoy :-) '''[[User:Echelon|ech]][[User_talk:Echelon|<font color="#125">elon</font>]]'''^{[[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]]} 11:42, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

: Coo. Cheers. :-D --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Talk]) 11:45, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

I've included commentary on the talk pages of three soon to be deleted articles. (I deleted the rest). I think those three might not require deleting and function as navigational redirects (Wikipedia itself frequently does this). Let me know what your opinion is and then we'll proceed. '''[[User:Echelon|ech]][[User_talk:Echelon|<font color="#125">elon</font>]]'''^{[[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]]} 22:00, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

: I think I was in a bit of a strict mood yesterday. All those three pages are staying. Thanks for pointing it out. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Talk]) 23:52, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

I see I am now a user that has been persuaded to join by you, which I sort of am. I said I wouldn't go on this but I might in future.

Wikipedia has a whole page of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Large/Licencing licensing boxes] which people might like to put on their userpage.  That way we could automatically sort everyone who agrees to release their content under CC for example, and then if a page was edited only by CC licensed editors, then the page changes to CC.  Of course Public Domain editors would be included on that too. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ^{([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])} 00:51, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

: Are you planning to move them all across? --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Talk]) 03:25, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

Read your blog and got dragged here (I have better things to do!) if only to comment on the license. Howdy (congrats) - [[User:Estel|Estel]] 04:33, 29 June 2006 (PDT)

: That really makes me feel wanted. :-P Welcome. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Talk]) 08:44, 29 June 2006 (PDT)

Hi DrBob.  I noticed you put back the NES Box art for Donkey Kong.  The problem is, the entry is no longer NES specific, and is actually far more dedicated to the arcade version.  Therefore, I'm not sure if using the NES boxart makes sense.  If anything, perhaps a picture of the arcade cabinet might be more appropriate.  What do you think?[[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 10:01, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

: That section is for box artwork, and as such I think the NES artwork is better there. An arcade cabinet would look a bit out-of-place, imho. If you want to upload such a picture (remembering to categorise it under [[:Category:Photos|Photos]]), feel free. What I've done with other similar guides (i.e. ones which have multiple versions of the box art) is to put the main piece of box art in the infobox, and the others in a <nowiki><gallery></nowiki> tag below, with captions saying what version they're for. That's where I'd put the arcade cabinet photo. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrBob&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Talk]) 10:32, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Do you know any easy ways to change the name of an image?  I plan to go through and rename images with the game acronyms in it, but I'd hate to have to download each image and then reupload and categorize it again.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font>]][[User_talk:Dukeruckley|<font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]''' 11:27, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

:::::: Looks like some of the images were lost, but it's easy enough to just upload them again.  I'll get on that either Sunday or Monday.  Thanks!--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font>]][[User_talk:Dukeruckley|<font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]''' 20:24, 14 July 2006 (CDT)

[[User:TT1|TT1]] ^{[[User Talk:TT1|Yeah?]]} 12:45, 16 July 2006 (CDT)

: No problem. Please keep replies to talk threads in the original talk page (i.e. yours) in future, though. :-P --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 12:47, 16 July 2006 (CDT)

You've [[Contra/Table of Contents|indicated]] that you do not prefer table layout for the TOC. May I ask why not? I get using headers instead of <nowiki><big></nowiki> tags (and I'll fix those soon), but what's wrong with putting it in a table with headers? It's better than a toc that takes up multiple screens. [[User:Koweja|Koweja]] 22:53, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

::: Sorry for not responding sooner, but I was on holiday. I just took a look, and you did a good job, although the surrounding 100%-wide div wasn't necessary. I've removed that, and the wikification notice. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 08:56, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

Hi DrBob.  Just wanted to collaborate with you on DK so that we don't end up stepping on each others toes.  As you can see, I took your suggestion about the box art and set up the gallery for it.  I really like the way it came out.  (I'd like to try and find the remaining Atarisoft box art scans and complete it.)  I realize that we are both trying to fine tune the page to where we both feel that it's complete.  I understand all of your changes with one exception.  Why do you prefer not to have the "Introduction" header?  I put it back the second time because my wife felt it "complemented the layout"  Also, it's on the other pages that I started.  I'd like to help create a consistant standard for those pages, so whatever changes occur on DK should probably occur on the others.  Please let me know your thoughts, either here or on my talk.  Thanks!  [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 10:31, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

::: Glad to help. :-) One minor thing is that I would discourage the use of more banner images such as the one at the top of Donkey Kong. As with the introduction header, the break the page up a bit, and aren't particularly useful, although they do add a splash of colour. ;-) Perhaps they could be placed further down, and centred? --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 16:41, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Is [[Template:Final Fantasy Tactics/Job|this]] what you wanted for the template, in terms of wikification/dropping the table layout?  I haven't had much experience writing with that syntax so if you see any problems, please feel free to fix them and I'll learn from it.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font>]][[User_talk:Dukeruckley|<font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]''' 12:06, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

::: The <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> template (take a look at its source) basically creates an invisible line at the bottom of the lowest floated thing above it in the markup. All content after it in the markup has to be below this line. (This is quite simplified, but I hope you get the gist. :-) ) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 16:48, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Hi DrBob, I got your notice on my talk.  I've been trying to make sure I use the correct image categories.  I noticed I screwed up with the marquee, I apologize for that.  Aside from that one, did I make any other mistakes?  I have been identifying the box scans as [[:Category:Box artwork]], which seem appropriate to me.  I also uploaded new images for exsisting ones, but I did not think that I needed to categorize them a second time, is that correct?  Please let me know on my Talk if I have made any other specific mistakes, as I would like to prevent myself from doing so again in the future, thanks! [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 09:02, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

:: OK, that's good to know.  Those were images that I updated, and I didn't think that I needed to recatagorize them, but now I know that I do.  Thanks for alerting me to this. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 10:59, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Hey I'd be glad to join the cleanup project (I've already learn the Wiki can get pretty messy :)). In my spare time between the Biohazard guide I'll try to clean up as much as I can. --[[User:Antaios|Antaios]] 23:54, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

:: Awesome. Sorry for the late response, I'll put my name on the list right away. --[[User:Antaios|Antaios]] 16:37, 6 August 2006 (CDT)

Hey Garrett, why do you think the controls are better without colons ([[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas/Basics/Controls]])? To me, a colon denotes a relationship between the two operands even if one of them is an image (or something else). --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 03:32, 26 July 2006 (CDT)

:::I was trying to eliminate the bullets (since the buttons pretty much serve the same purpose), but that can probably be managed with breaks... I must be tired. :( [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 05:06, 26 July 2006 (CDT)

Hi DrBob.  I had intentionally orphaned the Glitch page because what little content was there was already contained in the Cheats page, and I hadn't even edited those at all.  I figured someone would come along and delete the Glitch page.  Would it be possible to do that?  Thanks. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 10:23, 9 August 2006 (CDT)

: It's not possible to delete revisions of things. It's fine as it is. ;-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 16:55, 9 August 2006 (CDT)

Just wondering why you've added that strange screenshot to the frontpage of GTA:SA; Macca. Craziness? [[User:Jackhynes|Jackhynes]] 09:30, 12 August 2006 (CDT)

:: Haha, I thought it were strange because he plays a very minor role in the game. I'll move the image. [[User:Jackhynes|Jackhynes]] 09:57, 12 August 2006 (CDT)

Hi again.  Thanks for setting up the Gottlieb category.  Unfortunately, Gottlieb wasn't in business for very long, and they certainly didn't have many hits, so Q*Bert may be a loner in there for a long time.  However, Q*Bert is the second Odyssey² game that I submitted, the first being Popeye (and a third could possibly be the mention of K.C. Munchkin on the Pac-Man home variants page...) so would you please create a category for that system?  I don't know if I'll get around to doing many other Odyssey² games, but who knows.  And I need a 1979 category for the Galaxian entry that I just started ^_^ Thanks!  [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 20:17, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

: Sorting them out now. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 04:05, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Hi DrBob.  I wanted to bring this issue up but it did not seem big enough to merrit an entry in Community Issues, so maybe we could set a standard here on your talk page.  The issue with Miner2049er and the Atari 2600 was that rather than releasing the entire game on one cartridge, which would have been too big for the Atari 2600 to handle, they released the game as two seperate volumes.  If you look on the Atari 2600 page, I listed both of those volumes and each link merely contains a redirect to the Miner 2049er page, as well as the proper categorization.  Therefore, I did not want to put the Atari 2600 category on the Miner 2049er page since, ''technically'', no game called "Miner 2049er" was released for the system.  Rather, the two different volumes were released instead.  However, in the infobox, I thought perhaps that it was appropriate to list the Atari 2600 among the systems that the game was released on, primarily because I did not plan on creating a proper page (and therefore a proper infobox) for each of the two volumes that were released for the Atari 2600.  Perhaps that is the appropriate action to take (just as I did with Donkey Kong Classics for the NES) but in the absense of an official entry for the two 2600 volumes, would you agree or disagree that even though the main page is not categorized as an Atari 2600 game, Atari 2600 should be included in the infobox?  (In essense, can a game have a system listed in the infobox, and at the same time not be categorized for that system?)

: That sounds good. Make sure you mention in the text on the Miner 2049er page that for the Atari 2600 the game was split. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 09:57, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

I noticed your message on PRIME HUNTER's talk page about vandalism of one of the MPH pages. Although it could be called vandalism by some, I don't believe that starting a page with the word "hi" in it is vandalism, as it's not damage to existing property. I suppose it would be making a nuisance of oneself, but I don't believe that this is of any level of severity to warrant a warning. Regardless, in future, could you report vandalism (and related stuff) to a SysOp or bureaucrat such as myself or echelon on our talk pages, and we'll deal with it; it's much cleaner that way. Thanks. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 12:18, 3 September 2006 (CDT)

Thank you for notifying me. I just believe that starting a page with hi is vandalism. You cannot really start a walkthrough page with the word hi. Thats just what I believe, but if you believe differently, i'm fine with that. Once again, thank you for notifying me so I won't make the same mistake again in the future. [[User:0-172|0-172]] 17:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi DrBob.  I noticed the 65/130 category, and as big of an Atari fan as I am, I had to ask myself: what's the point of this category?  It really seems to serve as a place holder for a wikipedia style history entry.  Since we have the Atari 800 category, it serves as an umbrella category to (99% of) everything that could possibly be catagorized under the 65/130 category.  If Pauljs75 REALLY wanted to make the category stand out, he could have dedicated the category instead to the Atari XE Game System (or XEGS,) but even if he had done so, the same rule about the Atari 800 category would still apply.  I'm not proposing that we eliminate it entirely, but it might be a good idea to subcategorize it under Atari 800, and not expect much else to be done with it as a category unto itself.  Just my $0.02.  Thanks ^_^  [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 10:07, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

:: This is no problem. ;-) Good work, thanks for the help, and I think the whole matter is now closed, unless there are any broken/double redirects, which I will fix shortly. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 14:56, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

Hey just wanted to drop a thank you note for helping me out with [[Empires: Dawn of the Modern World|Empires]]. It needed some work, so thanks. Also, the reason it's a stub is probably because I transwikied it from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page wikipedia]. I did this because the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empires:_Dawn_of_the_Modern_World_Gameplay Gameplay section] was getting too long on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empires:_Dawn_of_the_Modern_World Empires] article. On wikipedia, it is currently up for GA, so I didn't move the whole thing, yet. After the article is passed or failed, I may add some more from the gameplay article on wikipedia over to here.--[[User:Clyde Miller|Clyde Miller]] 17:02, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

::::Thanks. Now I just need something to write in it. --[[User:Clyde Miller|Clyde Miller]] 09:34, 10 September 2006 (CDT)

Hey DrBob! I got an infobox so I removed the need infobox thingy, it looks a lot more organized now! Thaks for your help DrBob! I'm new to StrategyWiki so thanks for your help! (this is from UnlimitedSaGaFan (I dunno how to make those link thingies for your name))

Okay, I'll try it out after this message! I won't be getting the guide started in quite a while though because I lost my copy of Unlimited SaGa and I have to wait til' next month to get a new one :( --[[User:UnlimitedSaGaFan|UnlimitedSaGaFan]]

Is there any way for me to put all the MS pages under one category somewhere, just for organization sake? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 15:56, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

: I've done some cleanup on it: you had too much in the custom field; all that stuff could just as easily be left in the main TOC, and shown when the TOC's expanded. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 11:56, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

::Ill add that in.  Actually I should probably go and add stuff like that to all the templates.  -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 14:43, 14 September 2006 (CDT)

I am inquiring about the Main Page. Under systems, it does not include the Nintendo Wii. If there is a reason,  I would like to know. If it is not there because no one has included it, I am wondering if you can add it. Same with the PlayStation 3. [[User:0-172|0-172]] 23:09, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

Thanks for taking care of that. [[User:0-172|0-172]] 16:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

I've been trying to convert from tables to divs in [[Template:Earthbound/Boss]].  I tried a few times, but it doesn't seem to want to work for me.  I couln't get the image to go beside the text without setting the width %'s for the image and the other div, but then it would get a huge white space if the pic was too small, and the text after got put into the template.  Any suggestions would be appreciated, as I'm giving up on that one. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 19:08, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

: Done. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 01:37, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Why did you upload all those random title images from Wikibooks? We don't use title images, and they're poorly-made anyway. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 01:13, 19 September 2006 (CDT)

::: They're a good start, but can you make sure you:

* Don't duplicate the page title with another heading (e.g. remove the top-level heading because it's the same as the page title)

* Properly tag the appropriate ones/sections as stubs or section-stubs, respectively

::: --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 00:59, 20 September 2006 (CDT)

Hi DrBob, thanks for the link to image categorys. Could you leave a email or icq contact ? communication would be a lot more fluent.

: My e-mail is ku.oc.edoconcet@bobrd (reverse it; it's written that way so the spam bots don't get it). --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2006 (CDT)

The most promising guide of the month is to be decided by consensus in community issues, not just decided by you because it's your guide. I'll let it go this time, but please don't do it again. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 13:54, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

:: What would be even better is if you used thumb ''and'' a pixel width, although I would discourage use of pixel widths, as they're not very flexible (thumbs change size according to the preferences of the user who is viewing them). I've changed it, and added a caption, as all images should really be captioned. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 05:35, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

[[User:RagnarokFF]].  He started off by contributing, but then started blanking pages.  First time it seemed like a newbie mistake, but then he blanked two more pages.  -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 10:40, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

::: It's a fictitious and humorous award, and you deserve it. You've done a good job on both of those pages, and I hope to see more of your contributions in the future. :-) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 00:15, 26 September 2006 (CDT)