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This page chronicles every unsuccessful nomination at a featured guide. Do not move pages in here yourself unless you are the Bureaucrat that has closed the nomination. Pages may be moved here for the following reasons:

  • There is great consensus not to nominate it (generally when the indicator is bright red).
  • The nomination has been sitting in the requests page for a while without any recent action on it consensus-wise (generally when the time bar is pure blue or beyond).

Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario Bros.
Nominated on 16:48, 16 August 2007 (CDT) (1/2/0)
Support
  1. --DukeRuckley 16:48, 16 August 2007 (CDT): Very thorough and complete guide with a lot of pictures. I've gone through and spell-checked it.
  2. Looks good, but still needs a few things before being promoted (see comments) --Skizzerz Scissors.pngSafety Skizzerz Talk · Contribs · Spel Chek™ · VFG · RTFM 17:17, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Oppose
  1. OK, here me out on this one guys. I don't feel that SMB is a good candidate for a featured guide. I would personally prefer to see a more comprehensive game such as Super Mario Bros. Deluxe or Super Mario All-Stars be brought to the level of "Featured Guide", so that not only do we get a fantastic guide, we also supply information for anywhere from two to five other titles in the process. If I were to work on SMB DX, then SMB1 and SMB2j could have a front page that simply points to the content in SMB DX. If I were to work on SMAS, then the same would be true for SMB1, SMB2j, SMB2u, SMB3 and SMB DX. (Although the location of the SMB DX red coins would have to be added to the SMAS maps.) Anyway, if you want to go ahead with just SMB1, that's cool, but I think there is a bigger opportunity here for us. Procyon (Talk) 18:23, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
  2. I've moved to oppose for the reasons that Procyon stated, as well as that it still needs work (plus I want to see how the red looks in the status bar). --Skizzerz Scissors.pngSafety Skizzerz Talk · Contribs · Spel Chek™ · VFG · RTFM 18:50, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Undecided
Comments

This guide needs a few maintenance things before being promoted (at least we have a month or two!). One, all the AGN's have to become HN's> Two, the backs in the FN need to become prevs. Three, it needs a Spel Chek™. Other than that, it looks great ^_^ (besides MAYBE an image in the ToC). --Skizzerz Scissors.pngSafety Skizzerz Talk · Contribs · Spel Chek™ · VFG · RTFM 17:17, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

I hadn't noticed the AGN's and backpages... That'll be taken care of shortly though... I did a spell check before I nominated it, but another spell/grammar check is probably a good idea anyway.--DukeRuckley 17:26, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

Regarding Proc's comments above: When it comes to compilations, I feel that for a compilation to be featured, each of the guides it contains should be featured. In other words, if All-Stars (which is a compilation) is featured, then the games it links to should be as well. Unless you are talking about a completely full guide on the All-Star. (I'm not familiar with DX, so I don't know what to say about that). Maybe we should bring this up in CI?--DukeRuckley 18:32, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

I wonder if the special tricks should be mentioned here (sorry, I'm new), although most of them can't be performed normally. To me some seem more or less important, like hitting flying koopas from below and walking through walls (I performed this myself, too, but it takes patience). Also, I updated the world record time (or where did you get that?). --Proto 12:28, 18 October 2007 (CDT)

I was told it exists already (sorry again): Super Mario Bros./Secrets --Proto 12:46, 18 October 2007 (CDT)

Dragon Warrior

Dragon Warrior
Nominated on 22:49, 13 January 2008 (CST) (4/0/3)
Support
  1. Procyon (Talk) 22:49, 13 January 2008 (CST)
  2. It looks quite solid, Scott. Even with Ryan's objections, I have to say I back this. (I didn't notice the hardcoded html color codes and stuff--I'm sure you can fix it though if need be.) echelontalk 23:48, 21 January 2008 (CST)
  3. Very complete guide, I noticed a couple of grammar mistakes, but not enough to remove my vote of support. --MaestroFergus 09:22, 29 February 2008 (CST)
  4. I've fixed the two issues that I had with the guide, so I'm now ready to support. - Koweja 21:08, 6 March 2008 (CST)
  5. --Bmuig 09:47, 10 April 2008 (CDT) (talk)
  6. Didn't realize the game was that short! --DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 19:06, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
Oppose
Undecided
  1. Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 15:39, 14 January 2008 (CST)
  2. DrBob (talk) 19:28, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
  3. Procyon (Talk) 20:57, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
Comments

This is another guide that I have put a lot of effort in to, in order to provide plenty of pictures per page, while keeping the spoilers to a minimum. The guide covers every point along the game and provides a step by step presentation of how to progress through the game. Procyon (Talk) 22:49, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Sorry Proc, but I'm neutral/undecided on this one until some of the styling issues in the guide get sorted out (e.g. no hardcoded color values for tables, and the spolier template needs some work with the images). Maybe after that happens I'll support, but even then perhaps not. --Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 15:39, 14 January 2008 (CST)
I haven't looked over the whole guide yet, but so far I'm impressed. Two things that I've noticed so far - a) you have a red link on the cover page, and you could probably convert the enemy and spell tables into a template. - Koweja 12:01, 2 March 2008 (CST)
  • Problems solved, so supporting now. - Koweja 21:08, 6 March 2008 (CST)
I will proof this guide over the next few days and get back to you all on this one.--DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 19:48, 22 January 2008 (CST)

Yeah, I'll promote this one to featured status once I have enough free time to make the quip for the front page. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 20:09, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Sorry for my lateness. I've just proofread the entire guide and corrected a few small things. I'd be happy to support this as a featured guide, but not with the enemies page in the state it is. The whole right-hand side of the page is wasted whitespace, and I think the page would really benefit from complete tabulation. If you've got no problems with it Proc, I could do that and then promote the guide to l5? --DrBob (talk) 19:28, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Thank you for all the hard work you did in cleaning up my mess DrBob. As always, your eye for mistakes is impeccable. I took a stab at fixing the enemies page. It may or may not have been what you have in mind. While I think it looks better now, it has some major issues if you scrunch your browser too thin. Please feel free to correct it, or implement an entirely different layout if you like. Procyon (Talk) 20:57, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Something went wrong with this guide, and I'm not sure what it is. I appreciate all of the support that everyone has given it so far, but given Skizzerz's and DrBob's hesitance, whose opinions I deeply respect, I need to reexamine the choices I made for this guide and really understand what worked and what didn't. It's difficult to write a guide for a not-so-linear RPG since a player is more free to make certain choices about the order in which to do things on his or her own. Still, I thought Dragon Warrior would be an easy RPG to start with. Anyway, thanks for the continued effort to help improve this guide. Procyon (Talk) 20:57, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

1942

1942
Nominated on 23:57, 26 May 2008 (CDT) (1/2/1)
Support
  1. This guide looks complete and seems to have all the needed things to be featured. RobJ1981 23:57, 26 May 2008 (CDT)
Oppose
  1. It does not have screenshots in the walkthrough. While screenshots won't contribute much since it's a such a straightforward game ("shoot everything that isn't you") it's simply not acceptable for a featured guide. Once some suitable screenshots are included I would support its promotion. GarrettTalk 18:17, 28 May 2008 (CDT)
  2. Per Garrett. Also, this is very nit-picky, but it has redlinks on the guide's main page. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 19:20, 28 May 2008 (CDT)
Undecided
  1. Dukeruckley (talk · contribs)
Comments
  • There needs to be some pictures on the walkthrough page if at all possible. I figure it can be tough to find images for an arcade game. There's a bit of whitspace (at least on 1280x800 resolution) next to both tables on that page. Also, I wonder if it's possible to add a bit more information on the "home versions" page to clean up some of the white space there too? Otherwise the guide is very well written. I'll stick myself on undecided until I hear some other comments (mine are a bit nitpicky).--DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 07:53, 27 May 2008 (CDT)
    • This game is supported by MAME, so taking screenshots is not a problem. GarrettTalk 18:17, 28 May 2008 (CDT)

Metroid Prime: Hunters

Metroid Prime: Hunters
Nominated on 18:03, 5 May 2008 (CDT) (2/4/0)
Support
  1. This is very comprehensive and doesn't seem to have errors in it. The Main page and the ToC is well-written and updated. Totlmstr 18:03, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
  2. I put everything into this guide, I definitely want to see it promoted.Lunar Knight (Talk to me + Contribs) 17:10, 7 May 2008 (CDT)
Oppose
  1. There are no images in the walkthrough whatsoever, which is a requirement for a featured guide. Also, looking through the walkthrough I could understand it, but it needs to go more in-depth in all the areas, and optional expansions should go into a {{sidebar}} entry to denote that it is optional and also make it stand out a bit more. A few other things I noticed is that it makes no use of the control images in the walkthrough (the control selector template can allow them to toggle to their preferred method of playing) and that there is no special marking of rare scans that you cannot come back later and get. I could probably find a few more things, but that covers it pretty well for the moment. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 18:15, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
  2. In addition to all of Skizzerz comments, which I agree with, there are a number of pages that need to be merged into one page. Specifically, most of the pages at the bottom of the TOC should be merged into one page named according to the header of that column. Procyon (Talk) 18:40, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
  3. I'm very impressed with the guide! However, I have to agree with the above two, especially about the images. --DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 21:31, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
  4. Yeah it's an awesome guide, and it's also been blogged about! It just needs some merging (seems to be the current focus), and what I've seen, minor revisions (proof reading from as many people as possible plus things like footer navs). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) .
Undecided
Comments
  • So, instead of having X list here and there, there should be one good list, such as the Weapons? So, it's still young for it to be a featured guide. After reading, you can delete. Totlmstr 21:56, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
    • Yes, keep one good list all in one location. You can link to it from elsewhere, but having one list is not only easier to update, but it requires less load time and searching for the reader. --Skizzerz (talk · contribs) 18:42, 6 May 2008 (CDT)
      • About the images...what am I supposed to do for this and other DS guides? Theres no realistic way to get screens for the walkthrough. Wouldn't that mean that no DS game can realistically become a featured guide?:-P Lunar Knight (Talk to me + Contribs) 17:10, 7 May 2008 (CDT)
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