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Not to shatter any illusions but this game is also made by High Voltage Software. I wonder if it's too late to add it? I mean yes this game is made by Snowblind Studios but how should I put it? Any game you start, the developers or publishers logo or both comes at the beginning before you go to a menu of the game. By the end of June, this company would finish The Conduit which is a sci-fi shooting game made for the Wii. So if you think it's a good idea, you can put it in. If not than that's ok. [[User:Johnnyauau2000|Johnnyauau2000]] 07:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC) | Not to shatter any illusions but this game is also made by High Voltage Software. I wonder if it's too late to add it? I mean yes this game is made by Snowblind Studios but how should I put it? Any game you start, the developers or publishers logo or both comes at the beginning before you go to a menu of the game. By the end of June, this company would finish The Conduit which is a sci-fi shooting game made for the Wii. So if you think it's a good idea, you can put it in. If not than that's ok. [[User:Johnnyauau2000|Johnnyauau2000]] 07:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Romanization == | == Romanization == | ||
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and i also dont appreciate you saying your going to ban me after i was simply following the format of the page and your current help pages. how unwelcome do you want me to feel?[[User:Billybob|Billybob]] 22:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC) | and i also dont appreciate you saying your going to ban me after i was simply following the format of the page and your current help pages. how unwelcome do you want me to feel?[[User:Billybob|Billybob]] 22:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Sandbox ToC == | == Sandbox ToC == | ||
Hey, I think the double-column layout should be replaced in favor of single column due to the whitespace it creates when only one is expanded and the unevenness between the two when both are expanded. For future ToCs (if it turns out we can do collapsible elements in there), we might want to think about using tables instead of divs to cure some of these problems. If rows were collapsible/expandable, we wouldn't have the unevenness problems. — [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 16:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | Hey, I think the double-column layout should be replaced in favor of single column due to the whitespace it creates when only one is expanded and the unevenness between the two when both are expanded. For future ToCs (if it turns out we can do collapsible elements in there), we might want to think about using tables instead of divs to cure some of these problems. If rows were collapsible/expandable, we wouldn't have the unevenness problems. — [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 16:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Man... if you plan on doing that, good luck. Yer gonna need it. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fist_of_the_North_Star_video_games This page] should help you out a lot... and heaven help you if you plan on including the Pachi-slot games. :P '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | Man... if you plan on doing that, good luck. Yer gonna need it. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fist_of_the_North_Star_video_games This page] should help you out a lot... and heaven help you if you plan on including the Pachi-slot games. :P '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 01:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I spent the weekend updating my extractor to handle most of the new GMS encryption. Still can't handle everything (as shown by some of the missing descriptions), but it does a fair amount. I didn't have the chance to test images yet, but I'll try it out on the weekend. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 05:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC) | I spent the weekend updating my extractor to handle most of the new GMS encryption. Still can't handle everything (as shown by some of the missing descriptions), but it does a fair amount. I didn't have the chance to test images yet, but I'll try it out on the weekend. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 05:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Well, I finished updating my extractor to now handle all strings, images, and music. I will have to do a full extract sometime to check that I'm not missing anything, but I'm not sure I want to put my computer through that. Next up is a map renderer, but I'm not sure if I'll get around to that this month. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 06:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC) | :Well, I finished updating my extractor to now handle all strings, images, and music. I will have to do a full extract sometime to check that I'm not missing anything, but I'm not sure I want to put my computer through that. Next up is a map renderer, but I'm not sure if I'll get around to that this month. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 06:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Template:MapleStory/Claw == | == Template:MapleStory/Claw == |
Revision as of 23:27, 14 October 2009
Archive | Date Archived |
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Archive #1 | January 26th, 2007 |
Archive #2 | April 13, 2007 |
Archive #3 | June 29, 2007 |
Archive #4 | September 27, 2007 |
Archive #5 | January 12, 2008 |
Archive #6 | April 16, 2008 |
Archive #7 | November 2, 2008 |
Archive #8 | April 4, 2009 |
Dungeon Floor Plan
I was planning on putting something like that up. Would it be best to have a map like in Link to The Past, or a small map in Oracle of Ages? There are game and dungeon maps done by TerraEsperZ I can put up. Of course, he gets the credit. Snake's Remains will be slightly tricker, because it's split into two parts. I'm looking forward to pushing this guide up to Stage 2 soon. --|Superpowered Mario 19:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've uploaded the Hero's Cave map. It's overall size is quite big, but the scale it goes by is exact. I didn't want to tamper with it that much and throw it off. It's technically not a real dungeon, so I wouldn't worry about it. For Gnarled Root Dungeon, the map marks the items and staircases. The only enemies on it are the miniboss and boss, but it's to show keys in the dungeon. That one will be up momentairly. --|Superpowered Mario
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance.
I'm beginning to like working on this article. I feel like much at home now. Well, don't want to sound nasty but I do regret The Legend of Zelda The Windwaker last year, I was actually too stressed to work on the guide because of Christmas and Boxing Day so sorry about it.
Besides the screenshots which is my weakness, its actually the walkthrough which I admit is the hardest to do and I need some advice on that very part because I'm still thinking about it whether I should do it or not. When you write like a fresh walkthrough, what pointers should I use when I'm writing it? It might not be easy to understand but maybe it helps to learn more tricks of the trade as times are changing. So take your time and hope for the best. Johnnyauau2000 10:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. When you're stress free knowing that you have fun with that game, I hope we can work together but since the weekend is coming, for now I'll try to compile available info like faqs, official websites etc, as long as its reliable. You should continue on cleaning up articles and whenever you're ready, you can help me on this article.
Not to spoil anything but I almost finish the game with Adrianna but I got so caught up with importing that I accidentally save over my life with my brothers file so that's something I like to laugh at. So I'll play the game again on the weekend and do my best to compile the info. Even though it's still not time to put collaberation of the month, I at least enjoy that I'm no longer alone. I hope DrBob isn't busy but thank you very much. Johnnyauau2000 07:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Lastly, go for it. If you love this game although I don't know what console you own but go for it. Go out there and buy the game. Johnnyauau2000 07:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey! How you are doing? I just wanna let you know that, it's pretty funny. I start off as Vahn and because of the strength and dexterity, I manage to blow through the story up to Act 3. The funniest thing is every act of every level comes in threes. Might not be true at first but that's the pattern. Anyway, I think I'm close to finishing the game. But it will be a while longer because I also want to play as Kromlech, Adrianna and Drizzt so I might not be able to edit for a while. Anyway, if you are playing the game, let me know how you go and what character are you playing. Johnnyauau2000 05:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
The Gauntlet is pretty hard for me so I decided a safe and time consuming way of finishing that mode to get extreme mode. I'd say I had to reach for the buttons to make the cheat work. I mean you need a big hand to go for the invincible cheat which I shouldn't do but I was frustrated at that point. I'm halfway finishing the game with Kromlech and found only the dwarfs interaction to be different to the other main characters. Anyway, so much for not having a diary! I'll be ready to write a walkthrough and see what methods each character has to use. It will be a few more days. Keep in touch. Johnnyauau2000 03:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Geez, I thought you are still busy cleaning up other articles. Well, I do like to think a lot anyway. Judging by the pages you did, I believe you did play that game. After all been along time since you ever did a walkthrough and I like to compliment you on it. So keep up the good work and if you need help, send me a message and I'll do it. I thought I'm going to have nightmares again but maybe soon I'll have a solo chance on a walkthrough when I'm brave enough. Johnnyauau2000 06:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
One last thing. I'm curious about the stages. Like stages 1 to stages 4. What are they and how do these work? What's the requirement for going upstage if I put it that way? Put a link to it if you are too busy to answer it. I'll see how it goes. Johnnyauau2000 06:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
No that's not what I mean! Each game article has stages. What examples could I give you? Medal of Honor Frontline is stage 4 which means the game article is completed in its highest degree. This game starts at stage 0 which means it's starts at the basic stage and it will take a ton of time until it reaches stage 4. In other words, if you check on the bottom of the main article title with the boxart which has category links, you might understand what I mean. Johnnyauau2000 07:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Not to shatter any illusions but this game is also made by High Voltage Software. I wonder if it's too late to add it? I mean yes this game is made by Snowblind Studios but how should I put it? Any game you start, the developers or publishers logo or both comes at the beginning before you go to a menu of the game. By the end of June, this company would finish The Conduit which is a sci-fi shooting game made for the Wii. So if you think it's a good idea, you can put it in. If not than that's ok. Johnnyauau2000 07:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Romanization
Sure, I could provide the Japanese names of monsters, but I need to know one thing. Which system of romanization does the Strategy Wiki prefer? Vigilium 11:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
my cheats
they are my cheats so im referencing myself —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
- well if that is true why do you bother having any references? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
then why does The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Cheats have references then?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
- then maybe you should delete StrategyWiki:Guide/References?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
- Also, when adding information, make sure that you have tested the info out yourself and if you haven't personally tried a method recommended in a non-StrategyWiki guide, at least cross reference it (if possible) with other guides. StrategyWiki:Guide/Researching more information—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
so that page disagrees with you, and so do I.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billybob (talk • contribs) .
you are not obeying StrategyWiki:Guide/Researching more information by deleting all those, what are these new standards then?Billybob 21:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
my problem? I don't have one, but strategywiki does; you are saying things have changed, but the current help pages say otherwise. so what if it's not written by an admin? it's still linked from the main help page. if they are wrong, why are they still linked from the main help page?Billybob 22:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
and i also dont appreciate you saying your going to ban me after i was simply following the format of the page and your current help pages. how unwelcome do you want me to feel?Billybob 22:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Sandbox ToC
Hey, I think the double-column layout should be replaced in favor of single column due to the whitespace it creates when only one is expanded and the unevenness between the two when both are expanded. For future ToCs (if it turns out we can do collapsible elements in there), we might want to think about using tables instead of divs to cure some of these problems. If rows were collapsible/expandable, we wouldn't have the unevenness problems. — najzereT 16:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Rygar boss health.
Hi NMH. That's a great suggestion but, unfortunately, it's not very straightforward. Each boss has some defense level, and the player's "Tone" stat increases throughout the game, and the number of hits required to defeat a boss (or any enemy) is some mathematical formula comparing the enemy's defense stat to the player's Tone stat. The more Tone a player has, the fewer hits it takes to defeat a boss. So since a player could theoretically be at any Tone from 30 to 4096, it's a little hard to indicate how many hits are required to kill the boss. :( If you have any ideas, let me know. Procyon 04:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
HnK template
Man... if you plan on doing that, good luck. Yer gonna need it. This page should help you out a lot... and heaven help you if you plan on including the Pachi-slot games. :P Procyon 01:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
MS Data Files
I spent the weekend updating my extractor to handle most of the new GMS encryption. Still can't handle everything (as shown by some of the missing descriptions), but it does a fair amount. I didn't have the chance to test images yet, but I'll try it out on the weekend. -- Prod (Talk) 05:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I finished updating my extractor to now handle all strings, images, and music. I will have to do a full extract sometime to check that I'm not missing anything, but I'm not sure I want to put my computer through that. Next up is a map renderer, but I'm not sure if I'll get around to that this month. -- Prod (Talk) 06:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Template:MapleStory/Claw
Hello! I have a problem with the template. The new JapanMS claw (Exiled Lampion) has got the same icon as Night Raven's Claw. I tried to use the Alternate Picture parameter but I don't know how does it work. Vigilium 18:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Something's really weird with that template, but I don't know what it is. For some reason it's treating the pipe in the image link as a new cell divider, even though it's not on a separate line. For now you'll have to use 10=filename.ext to make it work. The same goes for changing the image size (11=imagesizepx). — najzereT 19:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
MapleStory category
Hi, I was wondering why 'korean=' doesn't work. I was looking at this page, and I tried replacing the Japanese with Korean. (since MapleStory originated from South Korea)
But it wouldn't work.--Spadow 22:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- "korean=" represents the name of a parameter, but we never created one for Korean or any other languages besides Japanese and English. Don't worry about the infobox, just put the info in the area where it says "Games from the MapleStory series". You can change that statement around, but if you put the korean name I can help clean it up. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 02:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I wanted to let you know that I added all correct footer navs for a lot of towns (Ossyria & World Tour) since I saw a few missing in the Town checklist page. --Spadow 20:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Feel free to update the checklist. I will get around to it eventually. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 20:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Sentence case
You recently left a rather uninformed message on a user's talk page about the proper capitalization of lines in the form of:
- Something: Something about it.
You said that the word immediately after the colon should not be capitalized as it is part of a sentence, but this is incorrect. The way we use bolding in lists such as these is as a mini-heading and in most cases a complete sentence cannot be made with or without the colon. For instance, from MapleStory/Towns/Crimsonwood Keep:
- Availability: only available in GlobalMS
As you can see, "Availability only available in GlobalMS" is not a valid sentence, and not capitalizing "only" won't make it so. In fact, I'm of the opinion that since these are more often than not, not sentences, the word immediately following the colon should be capitalized, and this is how I form lists of this nature all the time. Just like headings and page names which use "sentence case", this same formatting should be applied to the list item following its bolded heading. If you prefer lowercase for some reason, that's fine, as it is more of a style issue, but I'd suggest you don't mislead other editors or change an existing style on a page in an effort to adhere to an inaccurate grammatical rule. — najzereT 21:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Firstly, nowhere on the Crimsonwood Keep page does the exact string "only available in GlobalMS" appear (it appears as "Availability: only GlobalMS."). Secondly, I agree with you, I used to do it that way (back in '07) until others made the "sentence case" policy more stringent, at which time the colon represented a continuation rather than a separation between the list topic (bolded term) and the proceeding information. I find it justified either way (one standard, and one jerry-rigged), but perhaps we should change things back to the old, normal way. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 15:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right, that quote was copied from a diff in Spadow's user contributions, so it must have been changed since then. At any rate, I've been thinking a good deal about creating a manual of style for the wiki, and I've only been stopped by not having worked up the stomach to face the inevitable resistance I'd meet. I've been asked recently by an editor where they can find our manual of style, and I've noted that there is not an entirely uniform application of existing styles by users or administrators, so I do think it would be helpful. If we could come to a consensus (a tall order, I know) about how to manage lists, tables, quotes, bolding, italics, dates, etc., it would make for a good reference for all editors, give us criteria on which to judge future Featured Guide nominees and help us (admins) dispense the same information when helping users. Of course this goes against the laissez-faire attitude I've largely encountered here, but someday I might start a serious campaign for it. — najzereT 16:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- The problem is that we need to find evidence (a manual for English grammar) before being able to justify one policy decision over another. I've briefly tried finding info on the colon issue brought up above, but it's difficult without having some sort of accurate term to use in a search. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 16:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- This is a pretty minor issue, but it seems to represent a more widespread problem across SW. I think that Naj is right that we need some sort of Manual of Style. On the one hand, I like being able to write the way I like (for example, I prefer headings and subheadings to be like book titles, capitalizing most important words rather than sentence style like we have it). But on the other hand, if we're going to have more stringent policies in one case and not in another, something needs to change. I think a Manual of Style would be a good addition and Naj, if you want to go for it, I'll support you. In this specific case, I tend to agree with Naj's perspective on the capitalization. If that's how it used to be and something changed, I'd say it needs to go back.--DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 19:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- @Notmyhandle: We can largely borrow from Wikipedia's Manual of Style, although they go into greater consideration than I think we ought to. Our manual of style would be useful to catalogue common styles found throughout the wiki and to which we could add any further issues as they come up, such as formatting a bulleted list and whatnot. Though Wikipedia doesn't have a guideline for our particular case of using colons with bolded list items, it can be inferred that the rule for complete sentences wouldn't apply to fragments like ours.
- @Dukeruckley: I can't say where we got the idea to do sentence case (from Wikipedia I suppose?), and it's always seemed awkward to me as well, though I'm by now very used to it. I'm not overly concerned with what exactly is the style guideline so much as that we have one everyone can use consistently, but I do prefer the use of correct grammar and, whenever possible, to agree with Wikipedia's styles.
- — najzereT 20:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- I believe DrBob is the primary proponent of sentence case, but I'd like to hear from the other bureaucrats (primarily because they might have logs of the discussion) before implementing a "new" and official standard. As far as I remember, the main reason sentence case came into play was with headers. I originally argued for camel case headers ("The Dog Sat"). --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 00:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- This is a pretty minor issue, but it seems to represent a more widespread problem across SW. I think that Naj is right that we need some sort of Manual of Style. On the one hand, I like being able to write the way I like (for example, I prefer headings and subheadings to be like book titles, capitalizing most important words rather than sentence style like we have it). But on the other hand, if we're going to have more stringent policies in one case and not in another, something needs to change. I think a Manual of Style would be a good addition and Naj, if you want to go for it, I'll support you. In this specific case, I tend to agree with Naj's perspective on the capitalization. If that's how it used to be and something changed, I'd say it needs to go back.--DukeRuckleyTalk | Contribs 19:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- The problem is that we need to find evidence (a manual for English grammar) before being able to justify one policy decision over another. I've briefly tried finding info on the colon issue brought up above, but it's difficult without having some sort of accurate term to use in a search. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 16:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right, that quote was copied from a diff in Spadow's user contributions, so it must have been changed since then. At any rate, I've been thinking a good deal about creating a manual of style for the wiki, and I've only been stopped by not having worked up the stomach to face the inevitable resistance I'd meet. I've been asked recently by an editor where they can find our manual of style, and I've noted that there is not an entirely uniform application of existing styles by users or administrators, so I do think it would be helpful. If we could come to a consensus (a tall order, I know) about how to manage lists, tables, quotes, bolding, italics, dates, etc., it would make for a good reference for all editors, give us criteria on which to judge future Featured Guide nominees and help us (admins) dispense the same information when helping users. Of course this goes against the laissez-faire attitude I've largely encountered here, but someday I might start a serious campaign for it. — najzereT 16:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Dracula disambiguation page
Hi, could you look at Dracula (disambiguation) and fix any of the Bram Stoker's Dracula links? Also while you're in there, what are your thoughts on the Castlevania section? Just link to the category? Just use the blue links that are actual page names? — najzereT 06:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Now that I've added a link to the category, I think the Castlevania section is acceptable. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 15:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
CV needs moar redirects
lol, just kidding around, but in all seriousness, at least one of the multiple Japanese name redirects that you added should be a fully categorized redirect, in that it is the official title of the game as it is known in Japan, and should therefore show up in Games and Castlevania and any other pertinent console cats. Would you agree? Procyon 16:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ahah yeah I was all psyched about redirecting all of those combinations. Hm... I didn't redirect most of the actual Japanese titles. Oh well, someone who is deeply interested in those games will do it when the guides are complete. But seriously, as per our policy, yes I agree. Unfortunately, when I was making those pages as well as writing this message, instructions for categorizing redirects didn't exist. I've added it to StrategyWiki:Guide/Categorization. --Notmyhandle (talk • contribs) 22:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)