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{{sidebar2|title=Original Wikibooks Content|contents=Anybody who wishes to edit this should identify themselves to me, Captain Obvious, as this is my project.  I gladly welcome editing, but only if you know the game well enough to fix my mistakes or improve on the information.  I don't mean to sound like an overprotective braggart, but I know this game '''''very''''' well, and I'm trying to make this as complete and accurate a guide as possible.  Please write here or in my talk.
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* [[Talk:Super_Smash_Bros./1|Archive 1]] - Discussions before move from Wikibooks to StrategyWiki
- Captain R.D. Obvious
* [[Talk:Super_Smash_Bros./2|Archive 2]] - Wikibooks discussion history }}
 
A lot of the characters and stages are incomplete. I'm pretty good with Samus and Kirby, is it okay if I add their info for you?
 
--[[User:Cactuar12|Cactuar12]] 17:11, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 
Sure!  I'm looking forward to seeing what you know.  Just get the info out there, and formatting and suchlike will be fixed later.  Thanks!
 
- Captain R.D. Obvious
 
Would it be allright to discuss (under Stages) which characters have advantages and disadvantages why and how to exploit them on each stage? Like Ness absorbing the Arwing lasers on Starfox's stage, or light characters being highly vulnerable to the tornadoes, or which levels are better for ranged fighters, etc? If others think so, I will work on it.
 
I don't see why not, but how were you planning on implementing it?  You could put a list of characters below each stage description, and detail their adv. and disadv., or you could just slap a general description on there.  Whatever you decide to do.
 
- Captain R.D. Obvious
 
Oh, and I think that there should be a basic intro to each character in the main text, and then a link to another page where there will be an in-depth review of that character.  I call Pikachu's in-depth review.  Please post here before writing yours, though, so that we can compile info.  Thanks, all.
 
--[[User:Captain Obvious|Captain Obvious]] 22:00, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 
hello, im 60.226.30.88 who addded a bit on pikachu and the damage types, etc.
The damage bonus % is shown in training during and those stats were extracted programmatically by me. I didnt used gameshark or anything, but looked at the training mode and the values it spewed and used trial and error to calculate the damage percentiles and checked it against the game.
for the Falcon Punch, total damage is 24%, but the damage bonus is applied after 48%. this bonus damage dictates how far you get kicked off the platform based on how much damage you already have received. i have to say though, this is not the case with the gamecube version.
 
also, these values were extracted through training mode and just observance when playing, and just fyi, i didnt use a gameshark or anything to **illegally** get them. also, dont take them litterally, cos i could be wrong, even though they prove right when i test them in the game.
 
since this is your project, (im just contributing, cos i thought it would be nice to publish my findings), feel free to just remove it if you have any compunctions with keeping this info cos its not *official, cos i wasnt working at Hal labs or anything.
 
--60.226.30.88
 
 
So, does bonus damage actually cause extra damage, or just send them further?
 
Also, I've added links to the in-depth character pages, so go nuts with those.  I'm doing Pika, though.
 
--[[User:Captain Obvious|Captain Obvious]] 18:15, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 
bonus damage is based on the fighters current damage. If you were pikachu and you used thunderbolt to KO captain falcon who has 150% damage, then it would still do the same amount of damage, but the bonus damage is applied, and thus it will send capt. falcon further away.
yknow how "the more damage you do, the further they are knocked away" right?, how far they are knocked away is determined by the bonus damage, which is determined by the current damage. if no bonus damage was applied, then even at 900% damage, everyone would still get knocked away at the same speed and get knocked back at the same range.
--60-226-30-88
 
Ok, I think I've got you now.  Anyway, I'm making a new section called "Battle Tactics."  Cheap shots (though based on single player) should be moved there, as well as juggling, edgeguarding, wall-comboing, spiking, etc. And there are my 2 cents.
 
--[[User:Captain Obvious|Captain Obvious]] 05:14, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 
I'm commenting out the character descriptions for the moment so that I can write short, succinct summaries for each character.  I created the links to in-depth guides so that in-depth info can go somewhere besides the main page.  If someone would like to help me write these summaries, they can.
 
[[User:Captain Obvious|Captain Obvious]] 23:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


My character of choice is Mario, so I'd like to add some extra info on him, with your permission.
My character of choice is Mario, so I'd like to add some extra info on him, with your permission.
-Smash Master
-Smash Master
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== Split up page ==
I think this page is too long if you only want one section. It should be split into a few pages for easier use - considering it hasn't even been finished yet. What does anyone else think? [[User:Jackhynes|Jackhynes]] 14:03, 11 January 2006 (PST)
==[[wikibooks:Super Smash Brothers 64: Strategy Guide|Wikibooks edit history]]==
08:31, 26 April 2006 82.29.205.231 (→Z-Cancelling)
08:29, 26 April 2006 82.29.205.231 (→Z-Cancelling)
22:12, 23 April 2006 80.148.26.146 (→Double Jump Cancelling(DJC))
05:45, 20 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Z-Cancelling)
05:45, 20 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Landing Cancel)
15:25, 19 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Pikachu)
07:41, 18 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Containers)
07:41, 18 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Items)
07:40, 18 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Items)
07:39, 18 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Parrying)
07:33, 18 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Basic Gameplay - Re-formatted, added "Coming Back")
14:46, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Jigglypuff - How to unlock her)
14:33, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Characters - Summaries for CFalcon through Jiggly. Gonna go do physics.)
11:47, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Captain Falcon)
11:46, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Samus)
11:46, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Fox)
11:46, 14 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Characters - Commenting out unnecessary info)
07:04, 14 April 2006 72.75.20.32 (→Kongo Jungle: - Konga to Kongo Spelling Error fix)
06:58, 14 April 2006 72.75.20.32 (→Donkey Kong - spped to speed spelling change)
10:57, 13 April 2006 Captain Obvious (→Dropping Through)
07:40, 13 April 2006 Captain Obvious (Added Jab Resets)
07:03, 13 April 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Shine cancel - uppercase!)
07:02, 13 April 2006 140.160.8.86 (Monica E Vasquez may indeed love CFalcon, but I love a nice clean guide)
07:44, 27 March 2006 Captain Obvious (Moved "Dash Dancing")
07:43, 27 March 2006 Captain Obvious (Read the rest of the guide before posting; moving some of your stuff)
15:39, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Landing Cancel)
15:39, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Landing Cancel)
15:33, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Landing Cancel)
15:30, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Smash Attacks)
15:29, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Tilts)
15:29, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Tilts)
15:28, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Smash Attacks)
15:26, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Tilts)
15:26, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Tilts)
15:22, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Smash Attacks)
15:21, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35 (→Aerial attacks)
15:13, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35
14:56, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35
14:51, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35
14:49, 25 March 2006 128.6.83.35
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07:53, 23 March 2006 Jguk m
06:32, 19 March 2006 Captain Obvious (→Items)
06:31, 19 March 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Short Hopping)
06:25, 19 March 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Attacks)
18:15, 17 March 2006 128.32.42.137 (→Game Overview)
08:56, 16 March 2006 68.112.249.105 (→Game Overview)
12:02, 11 March 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Edgehogging)
10:18, 8 March 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Juggling)
10:18, 8 March 2006 Captain Obvious (→Spiking)
10:17, 8 March 2006 Captain Obvious (→Battle Tactics)
09:48, 8 March 2006 Captain Obvious (→Directional Influence (DI) - Holding the button DOES cause DI)
04:41, 4 March 2006 204.52.215.65 (→Directional Influence (DI))
11:51, 1 March 2006 67.76.132.192 (→Captain Falcon)
05:44, 12 January 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Thrown)
10:45, 11 January 2006 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - bumpers, and DONE!)
10:40, 11 January 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Containers)
10:34, 11 January 2006 Captain Obvious m (→Nullification)
10:30, 11 January 2006 Captain Obvious (→Game Overview)
18:40, 9 January 2006 67.168.138.234 (→Hand-Held - Added ray-gun)
00:09, 7 January 2006 216.220.208.117 (→Game Overview)
00:03, 7 January 2006 216.220.208.117 (→Game Overview)
08:49, 6 January 2006 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - Added mine)
08:33, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Mario - Filling out summary a bit)
08:31, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Characters - People need to read my damn comments)
08:30, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Items - Global boldification)
08:27, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Thrown - And a bit o' formatting)
08:26, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Thrown - Boldification!)
08:24, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Nullification - Clarification and Spelling)
08:21, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Rolling - Why not?)
08:19, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Damage Types - Don't know if I should get rid of this...)
08:17, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Throws - Only Ness, that little punk...)
08:14, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Attacks - I used the wrong word)
08:12, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Getting Back Up - Puppyguarding is a dumb word)
08:12, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Battle Tactics - *#^@ Internet Explorer crashes and deletes 30 mins of work...)
07:51, 17 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Advanced Techniques - I think it's finished)
12:50, 16 December 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Thrown - Sigh...more reformatting, and shell editing)
11:36, 16 December 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Konga Jungle: - Minor Word Choice)
11:35, 16 December 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Saffron City: - Minor edit: Word Choice)
11:17, 16 December 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Peach's Castle: - Fixing contradiction)
10:07, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Hyrule Castle: - SPECIAL NOTE!)
10:06, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Hyrule Castle: - Fixing good ol' tornado info)
09:52, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Pikachu - Shortened and sweetened summary)
09:45, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Mario - Moving to "In Depth")
09:44, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Link - I deleted Link's entry for a reason.)
09:43, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Thrown - Bah, formatting.)
09:41, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - Fixing unwanted edit)
09:38, 16 December 2005 Captain Obvious (→Hand-Held - Fixing everything that was deleted)
08:00, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.32
07:58, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.32
07:53, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Battle Tactics)
07:23, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.49 (→Getting Back Up - Minor edit)
06:15, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Ness)
06:04, 15 December 2005 Cspurrier m (Reverted edit of 66.165.29.32, changed back to last version by Captain Obvious)
06:04, 15 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Link)
17:42, 14 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Projectile Weapons)
13:03, 14 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Hand-to-Hand Weapons)
20:24, 7 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Thrown)
20:21, 7 December 2005 66.165.29.32 (→Hand-to-Hand Weapons - Added star wand)
20:15, 9 November 2005 Captain Obvious (→Hand-to-Hand Weapons - (Fan))
13:41, 15 October 2005 Captain Obvious m
16:51, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious (→Basic Gameplay)
16:44, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Battle Tactics)
16:44, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious (→Spiking)
15:30, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious (Worked on Spiking)
14:55, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious (→Basic Gameplay)
14:52, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious (→Added Dash- Dancing)
14:32, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Shield Grabbing)
14:30, 13 October 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Z/R Cancelling)
09:28, 2 August 2005 Gokugohan382 m (→Defensive Maneuvers)
14:22, 30 July 2005 60.226.30.209 (→Nullification)
14:44, 26 July 2005 Gokugohan382 m (→Thrown)
14:42, 26 July 2005 Gokugohan382 (→Link)
03:51, 26 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Finished Pokemon (Sorry about the repeat edits))
11:28, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious
11:27, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - I'll get pokemon done eventually...)
11:27, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - I'll get pokemon done eventually...)
11:26, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - I'll get pokemon done eventually...)
11:26, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - I'll get pokemon done eventually...)
11:23, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Thrown - I'll get pokemon done eventually...)
07:37, 24 July 2005 Captain Obvious
03:57, 24 July 2005 Gokugohan382 (→Donkey Kong)
06:50, 23 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Items - Worked on pokemon, added B-Ball bat and sword)
11:49, 22 July 2005 71.128.93.133 (→Link)
11:46, 22 July 2005 71.128.93.133 (→Fox)
11:45, 22 July 2005 71.128.93.133 (→Fox)
11:45, 22 July 2005 71.128.93.133 (→Fox)
11:43, 22 July 2005 71.128.93.133 (→Captain Falcon)
06:41, 22 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Items - Organized items, added some info (will finish later))
03:31, 22 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Saffron City:)
03:29, 22 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Hammer)
17:22, 21 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Added "battle tactics", moved "Cheap Shots", streamlined a bit)
12:59, 21 July 2005 Gokugohan382 (→Items)
12:56, 21 July 2005 Gokugohan382 (→Hand-to-Hand Weapons)
12:43, 21 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Brinstar:)
12:42, 21 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Link)
12:40, 21 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Hammer)
12:36, 21 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Star)
12:34, 21 July 2005 68.100.185.72 (→Hammer)
11:23, 21 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→Healing Items)
11:14, 21 July 2005 60.226.30.209 (→About Damage Bonus %)
10:50, 21 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Added links to as yet empty in-depth character strategies)
06:50, 21 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Pikachu)
06:28, 21 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Nullification)
06:19, 21 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Saffron City:)
22:14, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m
22:12, 20 July 2005 221.218.36.143
22:12, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m (→Mushroom Kingdom:)
22:11, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m
22:03, 20 July 2005 221.218.36.143
21:56, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m (→Saffron City:)
21:55, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m (→Saffron City:)
21:50, 20 July 2005 Jshadias m (→Nullification)
19:02, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→Nullification)
19:00, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 m (→About Damage Bonus %)
18:58, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
18:54, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→Nullification)
18:47, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→Rolling)
18:17, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 m (→About Damage Bonus %)
18:15, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→Damage Types)
18:11, 20 July 2005 60-226-30-88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
04:31, 20 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Attacks - Finished moving)
04:30, 20 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Game Overview - Moved damage details to Attacks section)
04:28, 20 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→About Damage Bonus % - I don't understand this...care to explain in the discussion?)
04:21, 20 July 2005 134.39.244.81 (→Damage Types - Fixed some terms)
00:25, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→Damage Types - fixed wrong info on magical damage)
00:22, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
00:20, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
00:09, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
00:08, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→About Damage Bonus %)
00:06, 20 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→Damage Types)
23:58, 19 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→Game Overview)
23:14, 19 July 2005 60.226.30.88 (→Pikachu)
14:36, 19 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Z/R Cancelling - Clever comment)
14:35, 19 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Teching)
14:35, 19 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Added some Advanced Techniques, more on the way)
08:21, 19 July 2005 66.90.154.151 (→Captain Falcon)
08:20, 19 July 2005 66.90.154.151 (→Captain Falcon)
18:59, 16 July 2005 64.90.39.115 (→Link)
18:48, 16 July 2005 64.90.39.115 (→Fox)
18:37, 16 July 2005 64.90.39.115 (→Samus)
10:18, 14 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Mario - Complete except for Character Analysis)
10:07, 14 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Stages - Complete!)
09:15, 14 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Saffron City:)
09:11, 14 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (Took out an erroneous "y")
04:42, 14 July 2005 68.194.37.234 (→Pikachu)
03:13, 13 July 2005 172.203.214.43 (→Game Overview)
01:00, 13 July 2005 Infobacker m (Three items max from a container)
10:10, 12 July 2005 Captain Obvious
07:07, 12 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Stages - Completed all but Konga and Mushroom)
06:05, 12 July 2005 Captain Obvious m (→Throws)
06:03, 12 July 2005 Captain Obvious (→Attacks)
04:09, 12 July 2005 Captain Obvious (This is not a single-player walkthrough, so single-player stages are unnecessary. Edited multiplayer stages, not done yet.)
03:50, 12 July 2005 70.88.130.13 (→Pikachu)
15:58, 11 July 2005 Strongbad (Made some corrections)
14:46, 11 July 2005 Strongbad (Added stages)
12:41, 10 July 2005 FabioB (→Fox)
12:35, 10 July 2005 FabioB (→Ness)
12:23, 10 July 2005 200.114.138.187 (Added some section headings, including all characters, items & stages)
10:12, 10 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Added Getting Back Up and Defensive Maneuvers (and DA))
06:19, 10 July 2005 Captain Obvious (Worked on characters (added Mario))
04:39, 10 July 2005 Captain Obvious
03:20, 10 July 2005 Lawman (→Chararecters)
03:20, 10 July 2005 Lawman m
09:50, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167
08:12, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (→The Controller)
08:11, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Basic Gameplay)
08:09, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Basic Gameplay)
07:16, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Throws)
07:14, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (→Game Overview)
07:13, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167 (Recovering lost information in the Movement section)
06:04, 9 July 2005 67.160.47.167

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My character of choice is Mario, so I'd like to add some extra info on him, with your permission. -Smash Master

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