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Hi, I noticed you were uploading scaled, non-filtered versions of the item sprites. Are you doing that for any particular reason other than preference? I purposely upscaled them to have that specific effect. They are scaled 2x once with no filtering, and then 2x again with linear filtering. If you feel really strongly about it, or have some argument against the filtering, please let me know. Otherwise, I'd recommend focusing your efforts on improving the guide itself as opposed to the images. Thanks. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 02:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC) | Hi, I noticed you were uploading scaled, non-filtered versions of the item sprites. Are you doing that for any particular reason other than preference? I purposely upscaled them to have that specific effect. They are scaled 2x once with no filtering, and then 2x again with linear filtering. If you feel really strongly about it, or have some argument against the filtering, please let me know. Otherwise, I'd recommend focusing your efforts on improving the guide itself as opposed to the images. Thanks. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 02:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
:Replacing a few images was an easy way for me to get into the pattern of taking and editing screen shots as I play. I prefer perfect scaling, and assumed the existing graphics were not filtered intentionally. I will stop replacing existing ones now that I know you like things the way they are. Within new content I upload I'd much rather not apply smoothing filters. The work I've done on the "items" page should probably be rolled back since it's only half complete, but I don't seem to have that ability. FWIW here are the reasons for my preference. Web browsers apply their own image scaling. In most cases viewers will see pixel filtering applied regardless of the source image. According to [[Template:Im/z2]] images used incline are scaled by MediaWiki when their height is greater than 30, and I've read elsewhere that images used as thumbnails are also rescaled. Between the web browser, the operating system, and mediawiki the image will be blurred multiple times regardless of what we do with the source image. [[User:Cedearia|Cedearia]] ([[User talk:Cedearia|talk]]) 03:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC) | :Replacing a few images was an easy way for me to get into the pattern of taking and editing screen shots as I play. I prefer perfect scaling, and assumed the existing graphics were not filtered intentionally. I will stop replacing existing ones now that I know you like things the way they are. Within new content I upload I'd much rather not apply smoothing filters. The work I've done on the "items" page should probably be rolled back since it's only half complete, but I don't seem to have that ability. FWIW here are the reasons for my preference. Web browsers apply their own image scaling. In most cases viewers will see pixel filtering applied regardless of the source image. According to [[Template:Im/z2]] images used incline are scaled by MediaWiki when their height is greater than 30, and I've read elsewhere that images used as thumbnails are also rescaled. Between the web browser, the operating system, and mediawiki the image will be blurred multiple times regardless of what we do with the source image. [[User:Cedearia|Cedearia]] ([[User talk:Cedearia|talk]]) 03:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
::Some of what you said was correct, but not entirely. Any file displayed with the "thumb" parameter will get scaled proportionally, and likely filtered. But any image that is displayed without the "thumb" parameter, or with the "frame" parameter, should be presented 1:1 with the original image source. Mediawiki will filter images if you manually choose to present them above 1:1 ratio. So for small images like items, all browsers should present the image identically, as long as they are not upscaled. For me personally, I soften up the images just slightly since I feel that upscaled versions of small sprites look too "harsh," but that's a very subjective call. On the other hand, I upload all screenshots with no filtering (at 256 x 224 or 256 x 240 size. Anything else will be scaled improperly.) You're free to upload new images without filtering if you prefer. '''[[User:Procyon|<span style="color:red">Pro</span>]][[User talk:Procyon|<span style="color:grey">cyon</span>]]''' 03:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
