User talk:Procyon

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Name

As in the star, the raccoon genus, or the release group? -- Prod 23:51, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

lol, the raccoon genus. If I can't use Procyon, I sometimes use Lotor, or Plotor. ^_^ Procyon 07:58, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

Hey, can you send me an email, I'd like to discuss something non-SW with you. (You can probably guess what it is from our previous IRC discussion :P) -- Prod (Talk) 12:54, 2 January 2007 (CST)

Cat picture

That is one awesome picture :D -- Prod (Talk) 23:11, 30 January 2007 (CST)

I must say it does look a little out of place on the main page. I'm going to revert your change, and try to find a more natural place for Moggy to occupy. :-) --DrBob (Talk) 14:55, 2 February 2007 (CST)

lmao! Moggy??? Moggy, the StrategyWiki cat. That works! ^_^ Procyon 15:10, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Moggy it is then! ;p echelon 15:13, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Good choice DrBob, I like Moggy's new home. Procyon 15:16, 2 February 2007 (CST)

"Moggy" was just off the top of my head. I'm sure a better name -- such as "Paws" (get it?) -- should be used. :-D --DrBob (Talk) 16:30, 2 February 2007 (CST)

You know, the man makes a good point, "Paws" is pretty funny. Moggy Paws would be cuteness overkill though. Procyon 19:19, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Plots on main page

Really? Well, in that case, I'll put it back once I'm done cleaning up the guide. Sorry.--Dan 19:15, 2 February 2007 (CST)

I approve.--Dan 19:22, 2 February 2007 (CST)

Sonic the Hedgehog Badniks page

Saw you further cleaned up what I had changed (I guess we both changed it independently :P). Just wondering why you have the title of the page a second time as a section heading, I find it somewhat redundant. -- Prod (Talk) 12:46, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Heh, don't worry too much about overwriting my edits, cause I typically use regex's (that one took about 30 secs :P). That's actually why the (JP) ones at the bottom didn't get changed, they broke the mold. And I do agree, with the small amount of info put for each of the enemies, == seems a bit too big. If you figure out a better way, please tell me :). -- Prod (Talk) 13:49, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Unrelated, the part that says JP indicates a japanese translation... what is it translated into? Romanji? Note that if my addition isn't clear. --Notmyhandle 17:01, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Pokemon - Suggestions please?

Hello thank you for the note on my talk page, I have acted on it and have made 9 pages on the Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal Page, is there any way that I can improve the page to completion level 2?

Thanks Rocky 13:32, 8 February 2007 (CST)

I'll try that, thanks again! Rocky 14:12, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Re: Pokemon edits

Hi Garrett. I'm afraid of coming off like a control freak, but I have plans for filling those sections out. If you really feel strongly about your edits, I'll leave them, but if it's alright with you, I'll probably end up replacing them. I just don't want to upset you. On the other hand, I really appreciate your post write-up edits. Let me know how you feel. Thanks Procyon 22:48, 8 February 2007 (CST)

No, that's OK. I didn't notice that stub was started by you. I know how you like to do everything in one big, clean edit rather than the dozens of little improvements I tend to do. :) If you give me an idea of what pages you're going to be writing (or, better yet, which ones you aren't going to be writing) I could help fill in those gaps. Garrett^Talk 23:38, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Pokemon Screenshots

How do you take screenshots of games on the gameboy? I want to use them on the guides but have no idea how to get them.

P.S I made edits to the second page but the server went down so I will redo them.

P.P.S I feel that the ToC for R/B/Y was better the way it was before. It makes it turn into a walkthrough rather than a list of stats that happen on that route, you could revisit a place and that may have to be a spoiler if it is early on in the game. Check out here(a walkthrough) and here(a list) for what I mean Rocky 10:38, 9 February 2007 (CST)

R/B/Y

Should I be bold in editing the route 1 page or leave you a few days to start the walkthrough your improved way?

Rocky 12:38, 9 February 2007 (CST)

OK, I'll start on silver/gold, Thanks

Rocky 12:38, 9 February 2007 (CST)

External Links

Hello Procyon. From what I can tell the purpose of this site is the be the ultimate resource for video games and everything to do with them. We do not have the resources to actually complete this task, we cannot host mods to games, patches, fan art, and other such contributions. Instead we can make the ultimate guide for the game. We should not consider ourselves so great as to deny the advantages of other websites and people, we are not the "only place that you need to go to find out anything about a game." If we are trying to be akin to Wikipedia, it is not a one stop resource, rather it is the ultimate starting place. No academic would dare cite Wikipedia, statements on there cannot be guaranteed to be correct. It does provide an amazingly concise and elaborate description which lets users find search terms and links to bring them to resources whose authenticity can be ascertained. Therefore I see no reason why we should not include external links in our pages, if we want to help people the most we should not attempt to limit their resources, rather expand them to be as large as possible. I would like a rationale as to [i]why[/i] we should limit people when it is within our capacity to grant them the best possible resources. --Chrono Warrior 3 21:48, 9 February 2007 (CST)

Thank you for the prompt response. While I do believe that I will challenge the policy, you do make an excellent point so I will be holding off until I can think of a solution to that and other problems that might arise from offering external links. As I am sure that my solution will not be perfect, hopefully after posting it others will help contribute to it in the full spirit of "wikiing" or whatever term would best suit. --Chrono Warrior 3 22:12, 9 February 2007 (CST)

Pokémon S/G/C

I have started the walkthrough and am up to Route 31, can you help me to make it look like yours, where do you get the pictures and how do I make the text big

P.S How do you find out encounter rates, it would be helpful?

Rocky 05:40, 10 February 2007 (CST)

Images

Just noticed that your images are in Pokemon not Pokémon. Should I start transferring Images over from Bulbapedia to help Rocky 12:54, 10 February 2007 (CST)

What about for sapphire and silver/gold/crystal? a ruby image is:

Image:PD&P Pokemon name.png

Sorry, while I was uploading I put charmeleon as 004, here is the link, can you remove it!
I've just noticed that all my images have gone and the links are broken, something went wrong HELP:-<!! P.S They're in the upload log
P.P.S Some of yours are gone as well
How do I make them preserve transparency, it it an option or is it a problem with the server?

O.K, I've right clicked on the image but the only option is .BMP, do I just put .PNG instead

Rocky 15:20, 10 February 2007 (CST)

Sorry, my only option is .BMP if I click save picture as, My workaround is to use Paint shop pro to copy and paste into then save as .PNG but that loses the transparancies.
Here is a screenshot, delete it after looking Rocky 15:35, 10 February 2007 (CST)

File:Bulbapedia problem.png

Pokémon Table

Here is a table, it might be helpful to list effectiveness of moves, feel free to tidy it up!Rocky 05:20, 11 February 2007 (CST)

User:Rocky/Test Page

10 yard fight

Wow, thanks for completing the page I started on 10 yd fight. I don't know how to add pictures or edit the page very well yet and your contribution really improved the page.

Image

Can you please delete this from the site, it has the wrong name.

• removed*

Firefox is much better:)Rocky 11:24, 12 February 2007 (CST)

I've deleted the image. In future Rocky, you could edit images you want deleted, and put Template:Tl on them, with the first parameter as a reason for deletion. (e.g. {{delete|It has the wrong name.}}) --DrBob (Talk) 11:52, 12 February 2007 (CST)

Thanks DrBob. Keep up the good work Rocky. Procyon 12:23, 12 February 2007 (CST)

S/G/C

Is the article ready for completion stage 2 yet, I will start changing the format when I have uploaded enough images, thanks for all the help ^_^ Rocky 06:31, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Completion

Thanks for the comment earlier, I've just finished the 200th image in the Pokedex, so I will start putting the images in the pages, thanks for the suggestion and I've made my own tables, you will see them shortly.^-^Rocky 10:29, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Potential significant change, could use input and later assistance.

I started a discussion on making a pretty substantial change to Template:Tl and I thought I'd let you know about the discussion in case you were interested or wanted to help with the change if it was supported. link. Oh, and if you know someone who would want to help out/discuss this who's talk page I didn't leave it on, if you could let them know, that'd be useful, thanks. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 09:00, 16 February 2007 (CST)

Images

Hello, I would like to start work on the baldur's gate 2 expansion page, click here for my plan, I would like to know if I could copy the boxart from wikipedia or do I have to find another source? Rocky 12:50, 17 February 2007 (CST)

Viridian Forest

The table's fine now, thanks, Rocky (talk) 11:18, 21 February 2007 (CST)

P.S I'm not sure if you know, but an easy way to get the "é" is to hold down the Alt Gr key and press the "e*

Sorry,I didn't think, I'm using an English keyboard and the alt Gr is the alt to the right of the space bar, sorry for the hassle Rocky (talk) 13:05, 21 February 2007 (CST)

Route 24-25

Proycon, I thought you might like to see this link here, it might be a good idea to put this in the walkthrough or at least warn people not to battle the trainer. I don't know what you think about this but I thought you might want to know. Rocky (talk) 12:07, 22 February 2007 (CST)

Stepmania

Thanks for your reply at the staff lounge, I just need to check, can strategywiki host:

1. .png Images - background and creator logo, probably the logo from the top of the page will do

   Sorry, to intrude on your talk proc. Answer: Yes -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 12:47, 23 February 2007 (CST)

2. .ogg or.mp3 files - voice tutorial

   Yes. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 12:47, 23 February 2007 (CST)

3. .txt text files , I can probably put them in the wiki and ask if they save it a certain way (.sm)

   No, at least not yet, I asked for more details on the manner in which this text file is used on the staff lounge, could you elaborate? -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 12:47, 23 February 2007 (CST)

It's OK, intrude away ^_^; Procyon 13:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Uh, just post it on a page like "Tutorial" then post the SM content and explain how to make it. --Notmyhandle 20:51, 23 February 2007 (CST)

IE6

in IE6 Pokémon Red and Blue/Route 3 doesn't render correctly, the map is right over the table and I have no idea how to fix it, please help

P.S, MT. Moon, I beat Lt. surge with just a freshly caught Geodude from there, it might be worth a mention Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 16:13, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Route 11 won't render correctly in IE, sorry I don't know how to fix it, I tried the thing you did on the other one and it didn't work, sorry--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 16:26, 24 February 2007 (CST)

P.S can I change the thing in Pallet town to 150 more, the mew glitch will let you get mew without hacking?

P.P.S, I'm considering stopping the guide, a conversation with Dr. Bob reminded me that I'm only halfway through the walkthrough and these pages, here and here have been really hard going for me, I'll probably go to the Pokémon League then leave someone Kanto.

Thanks for the tip, I've started neatening up the guide, when I'm done I will start Kanto :)Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 02:04, 25 February 2007 (CST)

Sorry, Route 11 still isn't working for me on (1024x768) I haven't tried any other resolutions--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 12:04, 26 February 2007 (CST)

Image Upload page

The only thing I know about is MediaWiki:Uploadtext but I don't think it has what you are looking for. Judging by the way DrBob added those warnings for not adding a description, it should be do-able through js since the destination thing is <label for='wpDestFile'>Destination filename:</label>. -- Prod (Talk) 13:14, 27 February 2007 (CST)

Gyromite Game Maps

That game brings back lots of great memories. Back in the day the first Nintendo System I got was the Deluxe Set that came with Gyromite and Duck Hunt. I am currently working on making maps for F-Zero on the SNES, however I could take a break on that and do some for Gyromite. That is one of the games I have thought about mapping. I have just not gotten to it yet. Once I get some I will place a link to them on the Gyromite page you are working on. Then you can upload the maps you want from my map site, and place them in the Gyromite page where you would like them to appear. --Snesmaster 16:15, 27 February 2007 (CST)

Standardization Policy

Just asking, here it has controls in bold but for the Sword of Mana article, I've added the buttons, e.g , am I doing it wrong or does the policy need to be updated, also is there a policy on spelling (English/American), I've found this onWikipedia but what is the actual policy--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 15:14, 28 February 2007 (CST)

The policy you linked to needs to be updated (as do a lot of our "official" docs :-( ). As for spelling, it doesn't matter as long as the page is consistent, so if someone starts a page in American, you will unfortunately have to continue in American. (This is like Wikipedia, I believe.) --DrBob (Talk) 15:40, 28 February 2007 (CST)

That is wikipedia policy. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 20:51, 28 February 2007 (CST)

Wikipedia Template

I've asked at the Staff Lounge about a Wikipedia userbox template that I've made here. I haven't had any respone for days so I'll do it myself but what should I call it?

P.S The text in your Univesity of Pennsylvania alumnus shows up as orange on FF and black on IE6--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 14:30, 5 March 2007 (CST)

Pokemon Move List

Do you think that we should just link to Bulbapedia here, it would make things a bit easier--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 00:59, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Thanks for reminding me, I was using my game to copy the moves over, does the list count moves "Imported" From FR/LG?

P.S do you know how to add a line in the box for the signature, it's not that important, just asking--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 12:44, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Signature

What I was saying about the signature is that I've found out from Ryan Schmidt that I can use my rock as a link, here it is, half my user page, half my talk

The only problem is that the bar for Raw signatures won't let you press enter and you can't use (br) (triangular brackets, I know) so it comes as one line and won't work. Do you know any other way to miss a line?--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 13:00, 6 March 2007 (CST)

I really don't think we should be using image maps in signatures even if it were possible, seems like far too much effort and code just to sign talk messages. We don't want to clutter discussions with all these tags and such. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 13:19, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Ok, it was just a suggestion from another user.--Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 14:28, 6 March 2007 (CST) (Hopefully my sig's back to normal now).

Move List

What is the long way to make a bulbapedia link (the template puts Pokemon after each name) :( --Rocky (Talk Contributions ) 14:51, 6 March 2007 (CST)

P.S What should we do about absorb, the page has already been created here and I feel bad marking it as delete because it is has taked 9 out of the user's 17 edits.

Sorry to intrude, Proc. To do a Bulbapedia link, just do [[BP:Insert Page Name]] to have a pretty link with the bulb linking to say, the Main Page (You have to declare the alt text though). --Ryan Schmidt^{Talk - Contribs} 15:09, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Err, I didn't do the links, I had an edit conflict with someone, now i'm in a mess, I've put my extras as a hidden comment but I don't want to delete the links, is there any way to merge the two, my extra's and the original links

The Tower of Druaga sprites

I've lower-cased the "sprites" in the category name. ;-) --DrBob (Talk) 16:16, 8 March 2007 (CST)

I didn't see anything using it, so I assumed you were subst'ing it. It seems a bit unnecessary, since it's just shortening out 5 words and some punctuation. Though, that gives me the idea that perhaps we can create a template for images in general. Something like [[Image:{{BASEPAGENAME}}_{{{filename}}}.{{{extension}}}|{{{description}}}]]. That way if someone wants to add an image, they would do something like {{Image|Name|png|blahblah}}. Of course, resizing, frame/thumb, and all those other fun things would get annoying to support, and may negate the benefit. -- Prod (Talk) 22:07, 8 March 2007 (CST)

I really don't think it'd be useful for something like that, the Image tag is pretty straightforward, and you aren't even eliminating characters by using a template, but you're creating another file. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 09:58, 9 March 2007 (CST)

Wait... I thought that templates were applied, on the fly, at the time of the page request. And that theoretically, what I'm saving to the database is a condensed version of what I want displayed, because I'm getting a character savings by using the template instead of spelling it out. If I were to use subst, then yes, I would agree it would be a complete waste. But leaving it as a template, I decrease the amount of data needed to store the text of the guide. Am I completely off base about that? Procyon 10:02, 9 March 2007 (CST)

Well if the file is named monster.png, your template would save {{Image|monster|png|blahblah}} (30 char) into the file of the page to be parsed by the server when it is accessed, without the template it would be [[Image:monster.png|blahblah]]. (30 char). I assume that the image tag would be faster then the template tag, as the template would simple be a file access which would then create the image tag. Two steps would always take longer then just one. Although this would seem that all templates are worthless, as they are more steps, but since we save human time in updating and placing them normally, they are advantageous, but your template wouldn't really save human time. In fact, the brackets of templates take longer to type then then braces of interwiki-links and tags (as mediawiki developers probably realized, since interwiki links are used more). Although we still use your concept, such as with {{cade}}, but that's mostly for ease of use as it doesn't require as many characters and doesn't require knowledge of filenames (sometimes), this wouldn't have either of those benefits. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 10:31, 9 March 2007 (CST)

OK, well, I have no problem switching it. But before I do, understand how frequently I'm using it on The Tower of Druaga/Floor 1-10. I'm nearing 100 uses. And technically speaking, I believe the server is supposed to cache the template upon the first time it is requested, so it shouldn't be hitting the server for each and every usage, just the first. I could be wrong about that though. What it means, is the CPU does the brunt of the work, not the drive-IO. And text splicing for a CPU is virtually free when compared to drive-IO speeds. Procyon 10:40, 9 March 2007 (CST)

(edit conflict) Yeah, I'm sure that's fine, it's very much like the move lists. Good point with the caching though. {{Druaga|Slime_Green|16px}} is 27 char, and [[Image:Tower_of_Druaga_{{{1}}}.png|{{{2}}}]] is 46, so with 100+ uses and cached templates, I see the benefit. You may want to lock it though when you're done, possibly. 100+ uses of some text is an awesome vandalism opportunity, and it isn't going to change. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 11:06, 9 March 2007 (CST)

To clarify what I was suggesting, if the file is named MapleStory_File_1.png, you would use {{image|File_1.png}} which would convert to [[Image:MapleStory_File_1.png]]. If you use your template in a page, it saves the text as is (so approx 20 chars * 100 = 2k), though the page is rendered and cached until it's changed, and probably comes out the same either way for viewers. To be honest, I don't think this guide will be edited much after you finish with it, so other people won't really need to learn the syntax. I'm somewhat ambivalent about it's usage now, it saves a bit of typing, shortens the text, but makes it slightly more complicated for editors, and adds a small step to a one time parse. I think you're breaking even :P. -- Prod (Talk) 11:20, 9 March 2007 (CST)

Good point also. -- Mason11987 ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 11:06, 9 March 2007 (CST)

Spoiler problem

In The Tower of Druaga in IE6 the spoiler section is revealed for about 15 seconds then hides, is there any way to make the lag shorter because I saw the code.--Rocky http://media.strategywiki.org/images/thumb/7/78/Rally-X_Rock.png/25px-Rally-X_Rock.png ^{(Talk - Contributions)} 14:49, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

Actually, I think there is a way to fix that, but it comes with a down side. Right now the AGN uses the method I am referring to. It will first show only the header, and then when the user clicks the show button, the content appears. The problem comes if the user doesn't have JavaScript. For the AGN, without JS, only the header will show and they will have to click on the ToC link to see the rest of the pages. With the spoiler tag, there is almost no way to see the inner content without looking at the code (a bad thing). -- Prod (Talk) 15:03, 12 March 2007 (CDT)

Re: Compilations in home version comparisons

Hi Garrett. Feel free to completely ignore this, but I was generally under the practice of leaving compilation titles out of the home version comparisons pages. I don't have a particular reason, I just figured it would cut down on the clutter, and the compilation versions strive to be as close to the arcade version that the guide is representing as possible. Like I said, feel free to ignore this, it's just as suggestion. Nice job with the Gauntlet Noteworthies though, that's cool. Might wanna mention Dark Chambers for the Atari 800. (It also had a very inferior Atari 2600 version.)

Yeah, that makes sense. With other pages I covered them anyway since some actually have their own bugs or inaccuracies, but I really don't know anything about flaws in these particular compilations. As for Dark Chambers the way I understand it it's an updated version of Dandy Dungeon, so it's mentioned along with that. Thanks for your help. :) Garrett^Talk 21:46, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Renaming pictures

Why exactly do my pictures need to be renamed? From what you say, it seems that they are not descriptive enough. I think they are descriptive. What other games have a "Dragon Roost Island"? Is there some image policy I haven't read because at Wikipedia I never got trouble with my image names. You'd think that at a niche wiki like this one, the image names would need to be less descriptive than at a wiki about everything. MD80 13:39, 23 March 2007 (CDT)