StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal/2007/May: Difference between revisions

== Mobile Phone games/genre ==

:[[:Category:Mobile]]. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 20:41, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

::Mmk.  Ambiguity for the win.  What should it be categorized under the game platform though?  Mobile Phone or just Mobile?  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 22:04, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

:::It's pretty much gaurenteed to be different, although since 2003 I assume much has developed in the way of cellphones.  ActRaiser was a game that got reduced to a three level platformer.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 01:34, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

:::Actually for something like this we could probably do [[ActRaiser (disambiguation)]] and link to it at the top of the main [[ActRaiser]] page.  I say that since the SNES version is WAY more common and what people would most likely be looking for.  Thats how disambig typically works on WP anyway and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't copy their policy on this.  --[[User:Argash|Argash]] 08:54, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

===Need help with [[Template:Talkarchive]]===

I might have been too clever in the way that I set up the new archives.  If you look at the link generated by [[Template:Talkarchive]] on [[ StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal/2007/March]] the link to the main discussion page points to [[StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal/2007]] instead of [[StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal]].  Anyone have any ideas how to fix that?--[[User:Argash|Argash]] 01:50, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

::Hah such an easy solution that i couldn't even think of it! good job sir!  --[[User:Argash|Argash]] 01:50, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

::::I'll take a look later today, see if anything can be worked out. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ^{([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])} 19:09, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::I don't understand why you don't just hardcode StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal in instead of that basepage crap. lol --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 20:05, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

::::::<nowiki>{{Talkarchive|StrategyWiki talk:Community Portal}}</nowiki> doesn't work as it has to be an external link (like http://strategywiki.org/wiki/StrategyWiki_talk:Community_Portal ). Anyway, I've modified the template a bit so all you have to do is <nowiki>{{Talkarchive|CP}}</nowiki> and it links to the community portal talk page. (It uses #ifeq so it HAS to be exactly CP, it IS case-sensitive) --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 20:41, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::::Works for me thanks for the fix [[User:Argash|Argash]] 21:38, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

== I'm headed to Florida for a week ==

==Site Problems==

:about 52/200 images are showing in categories

:: There's a problem with the media server which holds all the images and themes. It'll be fixed. --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 04:29, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

:: I'm not exactly sure what was the cause of the issue, but whatever it was, it's now fixed.--[[User:Dan|Dan]] 08:11, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

::: Was thttpd down? I wonder if there's a way to check whether or not it is actively running so that if it ever crashes we can restart it. I do know for a fact that when the server restarts thttpd fails to restart. :( <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 23:20, 4 April 2007 (CDT)

:::::I just restarted thttpd. I don't know what the issue is. :(  I'm thinking of making a PHP script (for Sysops) that allows people without server access to run the startup command using php's exec() or something similar. (I wonder if that would work? I'll look into it when I wake up tomorrow.) <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 02:31, 8 April 2007 (CDT)

==Undo Revision==

:[[MediaWiki:Undo-summary|done]]. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ^{([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])} 07:26, 11 April 2007 (CDT)

::Great, thanks!

::::Thats a check box in your settings.  Its there for people like me who are anal about always filling out the summary field.  --[[User:Argash|Argash]] 17:52, 29 April 2007 (CDT)

::::::It worked for me just now. Are you using MonoBook instead of Blue Cloud? Sounds like a JS error or something. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 00:55, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

::::::::No I don't, but the Blue Cloud-specific JS equivalent kicks in anyway. You could always try adding an arbitrary character (a space, even) to see if that is enough to satisfy the check. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 03:24, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

:::::::::Actually, the js is enabled in MonoBook as well, and it requires at least five characters for the summary to be "valid" (no idea why its messing up with undo revision though, as it has an auto summary) --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 08:06, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

== Determining Completion Level ==

:[[:Category:Mobile]]. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 20:41, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

::Mmk.  Ambiguity for the win.  What should it be categorized under the game platform though?  Mobile Phone or just Mobile?  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 22:04, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

:::It's pretty much gaurenteed to be different, although since 2003 I assume much has developed in the way of cellphones.  ActRaiser was a game that got reduced to a three level platformer.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 01:34, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

:::Actually for something like this we could probably do [[ActRaiser (disambiguation)]] and link to it at the top of the main [[ActRaiser]] page.  I say that since the SNES version is WAY more common and what people would most likely be looking for.  Thats how disambig typically works on WP anyway and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't copy their policy on this.  --[[User:Argash|Argash]] 08:54, 27 April 2007 (CDT)

* [[Pac-Man/Versions|Home version comparisons]]: Find pictures and descriptions of every home conversion of this game made, as well as comparisons of their differences.

...and so on.  I'm not sure if this is overkill or not.  I would ''prefer'' to leave the TOCs where they are, but perhaps that may lead to continued confusion over this issue.  We know that the format we're using is good.  I just wonder how effectively we are communicating this.  How does everyone else feel?  Thanks.  [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] ([[User talk:Procyon|Talk]]) 13:00, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

: I think this makes things just look really messy, and totally detracts from our vision of being organized. The newer game ToCs (as seen in OoT) have done a great job in attracting people to view other areas of the guide, mainly because they are near the top of the page and receive lots of screen space. Not in an entirely critical sense, your proposed format isn't clean as the descriptions, since each description are clumped next to each respective link and makes it stand out no more than any other paragraph. If our goal for the ToCs is to make them newbie-friendly and accessible, we should work with a system that already exists and works well, that ToC system being the one employed in the OoT guide. Immediately, anyone can recognize that it is the one stop place to navigate around the guide as it resembles a Table of Contents in a regular book, and anyone who has ever been through school or have seen a book to the least will be familar with this system, and thus know how to use it. The pros of this system go on and on and on, but I'd rather stop here and let you figure the rest out to your heart's content.--[[User:Dan|Dan]] 21:49, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

::I for one really dislike having descriptors next to ToC links; its messy, unnecessary unless you're brand new to the site and don't understand what "introduction" or "getting started" or "controls" or "characters" means.  When someone goes to a page, the top should have a small note in italics if there is any confusion about another page that contains related but separate information; i.e. character bios versus move lists.  Luckily we often make the information duplicated so that both pages contain the same thing.  Reiteration is quite powerful, but unnecessary if excessive.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 22:11, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

:: That requires [[WP:TeX|TeX]]. I also doubt that we need it. :P <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 01:06, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

==Mediawiki Bug==

:The only way to correct that sort of error to me, is to just delete the image and re-upload it with the correct extension. If there is another way of correcting this, please correct me if I am wrong. [[User:0-172|Lunar Knight]] ^{([[User talk:0-172|Talk to me]] + [[Special:Contributions/0-172|Contribs]])} 12:55, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

:::To answer your questions: 1) There is currently no better/easier way than renaming, and 2)I've already re-uploaded it [[:Image:MS Monster Rombot.gif|here]], but am keeping the previous one until this gets archived. --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 15:06, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::I fixed it by converting it to PNG. That's easier than retrofitting a template to handle a merely decorative GIF animation. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 00:12, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

:To note, the template can already handle alternate file names (in the docs).  But the image isn't really needed since all the other images are regular non-animated. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 00:34, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

== StrategyWiki:Layout ==

:I don't think we should exactly get rid of the Layout policy. Maybe we could merge it with the Organization policy? [[User:0-172|Lunar Knight]] ^{([[User talk:0-172|Talk to me]] + [[Special:Contributions/0-172|Contribs]])} 12:58, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

::The organization page is (a) not yet a policy and (b) pretty much an updated version of what is covered in layout. If you really want to keep layout, it will have to be updated (for example, we don't subpage the walkthrough pages under /Walkthrough/, just under the game's name). --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 13:08, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

:::Although we don't Ryan, that information isn't noted on the Organization policy (I skimmed it, no header examples were used so I assume headers aren't on there).  Merge!  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 15:38, 6 May 2007 (CDT)

== Time to work on guide completion? ==

**Main guide page has a concise introduction paragraph

**Main guide page has <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Continue Nav|Continue Nav]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

**All guide pages have <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Footer Nav|Footer Nav]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

**All guide pages use proper english spelling AND grammer

**RTS & TBS guides have technology listings

<div style="width: 25%; float: left;">

'''Adventure'''

:::Now lets look at how this question will be answered depending on the state of the guide. If all the spell lists, item lists, armor lists, weapon lists and character lists but nothing else is completed, then the guide will essentially be 50% complete but the answer to this question will be no.  Now lets say that the full walkthrough is complete but nothing else is, the guide is still essentially 50% complete but now the answer is yes.  Thus while both guides might be 50% complete one is infinitely more valuable to the reader.

:::What we need to do then is come up with a way to quantify which guides can say yes to that all important question and then list that number on the main page and proudly proclaim it right alongside the number of guides that not only say yes to that question but are fully complete.  Those are the two most important numbers that every person who visits the site wants and deserves to see! --[[User:Argash|Argash]] 04:27, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

== [[FF7]] footer thoughts ==

Is it against policy to add information about software for games systems that aren't exactly for games?  I'm not talking about things like Windows Vista, but I've lately been thinking about creating a page for the [[Nintendo DS Opera Browser]], for clumsy people like me who lose the instruction manual and forget how to change the settings.  So far I haven't lost the instruction manual, but I was wondering what the policy was on such things (after a mate of mine yes, lost the instruction manual and had to go to great lengths to figure out how to change the settings on her [[Nintendo DS]]).  My reasoning that it should be here is that it's a piece of DS software, you could potentially use it to play games on, there are instructions that can be complicated in using it, and we also put in 'Controls' sections to game guides, so this could just be a sort of extended controls section or something like that.  I was wondering what everybody else thought.--[[User:Froglet|Froglet]] 07:50, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

::So long as you don't plagerize go ahead.  I've created the [[NHN/Hangame registration guide]] to help Hangame.co.jp players who don't speak Japanese.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 16:57, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

==Image Troubles on Google==

:I don't see any from strategywiki.net... --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 13:22, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

::::Maybe it has something to do with metatags/file names?  The one interesting thing I found from looking into this is [http://wiki.merkey.net/wiki/Brandon_Suit this little article on Ech...]  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 15:45, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::I ''haate'' that wiki article. :P <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 23:55, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

::I don't think the ''number of pages'' stat has as much relevance for us, the other two are noteworthy. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 22:43, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I'm torn between removing the ''numarticles'' statistic and keeping it. On the one hand, it looks like each guide may only have 6 pages if you do the math. On the other hand, without it it looks like we could be a wiki consisting of nothing more than incomplete 1-page guides (which we are most definitely not!) <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 23:34, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

:How about some nicely rounded numbers? (Floor rounding using modulus so we don't report more than we have.) Rounded numbers have a tendency to look more aesthetic (certainly less distracting) and can be read smoothly. Take a look now and see what you think. <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 23:52, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

:::That number comes from a <code><nowiki>{{PAGESINCATEGORY}}</nowiki></code> count of [[:Category:Sub-pages]]. It's a truer count than [[Special:Statistics]]' modest estimate. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 01:31, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::I would say not. That category's sole purpose is to make [[Special:Uncategorizedpages]] usable, and won't be as understandable to a visitor in the same way as a category of individual game entries. I think there's a MediaWiki: page controlling the text on [[Special:Statistics]] so it should be possible to append those counts there. I'll look into that. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 02:39, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

:::::::Ah, thanks. The page didn't exist, but MediaWiki automatically pastes in the default text for whatever MediaWiki: page you start editing. I've replaced the pages count with the number of guides (derived from [[:Category:Games]]) as well as the total number of pages (derived from [[:Category:Games]] and [[:Category:Sub-pages]]). See what you think. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 16:16, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

: I'm not really in favor of the new stats since they don't change as much as the original stats do, and if they don't change often, there's really no point in putting them on the front page.--[[User:Dan|Dan]] 19:11, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

==[[StrategyWiki:Wikipedia Article|Wikipedia Article]]==

:If you think the page meets the criteria outlined in [[WP:WP:WEB|WP:WEB]], I'd say go ahead. If not, it is likely to get deleted again (as that was the reason for the first deletion--[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/StrategyWiki see here]). --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 16:34, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

==Broken Image (Literally)==

:I'll take care of it. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 13:39, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

I think these could be easily done by someone willing; just get the gamecube buttons, recolour them, perhap's get the wii's Z button and recolour it, and also recolouring the Wii's C button and plonking generic arrows onto the end would be easily done and effective. --[[User:Muzer|Muzer]] 03:08, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

::I can tell you the official button colours if that's what you mean. If not, I'm sure they'll be plenty on google images. I do have an N64 but my photography is crap and I don't know where the camera or card reader is :p

::There, I hope that's not too much info. --[[User:Muzer|Muzer]] 03:08, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

==Requests for Checkuser==

*[[User:Bbddtt]]

*and [[User:MsmsmsMs]]

:CheckUser caused some issues with editing that I never quite figured out. I'll give it another go tonight, but don't get your hopes up. <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 17:45, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

: If there's been persistent vandalism from this IP address, just ban it permanently. People like that ''never'' change. (And no, I'm not back; just popping in for an hour. :-( ) --[[User:DrBob|DrBob]] ([[User_talk:DrBob|Talk]]) 11:03, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

== Strategy guide on Wikibooks ==

BTW, I can't seem to recieve my password, but this ''is'' SB_Johnny from Wikibooks. [[User:SB Johnny again|SB Johnny again]] 05:23, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

I'll try to do this one (later today or tomorrow).  Looks like it might be a bit messy due to the [[Wikibooks:Civ:The Basics]] being a common page for "many" guides.  I think the whole [[Wikibooks:Category:Civ]] might be good for deletion, but I haven't really gone through the pages, so can't say for sure. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 17:29, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

::I'll take care of it.  I'm a big fan of the game and the pages need a fair bit of rework to merge in nicely.  I'm doing the whole [[:Category:Civilization|Civ]] series at the same time, since the basics page for one needs to be "shared" between the games. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 11:04, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

== [[Pokemon]] strategy guide ==

A few days ago I came across [[Neverwinter Nights (AOL)]]. This relates to a game that's no longer playable in any form (even via emulation). Now, my question is, should we have general information about games that are no longer playable for the sake of completeness, or exclude them because our stated purpose of supplying strategies can't extend to these games? [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 05:59, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

::Yeah, the "guide" doesn't even give a strategy to playing it, and if it did, nobody would look at it (as it can't be played). The article was imported from Wikipedia based off its history, but it does not meet our quality standards for a guide's front page nor our guide standards period. Based off of those two reasons, I say that it should be deleted. --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 09:13, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

At the bottom of the page, it says there are remakes of the game that are playable (haven't tested).  Just because we can't put up strategies for a game, doesn't mean it shouldn't be here.  If the ''guide'' comes down to just saying the game isn't playable, that should be fine.  The fact that it was imported from wikipedia means that someone looked at it ;).  Just because the page isn't at proper standards, means it needs cleanup, not deletion.  No offense Rocky, but we should almost never delete guides, irrespective of size. Finally, this page does need cleanup, to keep only the important game related info (and getting rid of all the useless wikilinks and stuff like that). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 11:09, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

:I've had a brief look at the remakes; one uses the new NWN's engine and the other follows the original's look and feel but adds a lot of new content--I don't think either could really be thought of as the same game. If we're going to keep things like this we need an "unplayable" template, possibly with a picture of a joystick with an X over it or something. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 16:34, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

I've created [[Template:Unplayable]]. The wording and icon placement definitely aren't perfect, so feel free to mess with it. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 20:14, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

:Do we really need to blatantly say "we don't have content"?  I would think that a note in the intro paragraph should be enough to tell the person that it can't be played any more.  Maybe even a tag on the side.  But I think a banner at the top is a bit excessive (maybe bottom?). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 20:25, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

::I've made it far smaller now. This version is still a bit awkward, but better than the screaming banner it was before. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]^{[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]} 21:05, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

:::So wait, if a game has another version playable, we don't say anything?  [[Gunster: Rain of Bullets]] was canceled but the Japanese version still exists.  So...  I understand this discussion to just be about games that are no longer available, but what about these little nuances?  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 21:42, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

==Infobox==

::Couldn't we just add like <nowiki>{{{ESRB T Comment}}}</nowiki> etc. for each one and place the comment after the normally displayed text (like next to "(Teen)")??? --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 22:15, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

:::I really don't see the use in modifying the template for only a few special cases. The template works fine as-is (even with the special cases, they just need a bit of thought to do it), so it really doesn't need to change. The only potential use of using comments is to explain why it got that rating (which can be found on the game box's back usually), but then it would probably only be <nowiki>{{{ESRBcomment}}} or {{{ESRBreason}}} (parameters have to be one "word")</nowiki>. --[[User:Ryan Schmidt|Ryan Schmidt]]^{[[User talk:Ryan Schmidt|Talk]] [[User talk:Ryan Schmidt/blab|-]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Schmidt|Contribs]]} 10:12, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

It says [[Pokémon/Pokédex|here]] that Bulbasaur is Grass/Poison. This is incorrect. Only Ivysaur and Venasaur are. Bulbasaur is Grass only. I'll change it if no one else does. Sincerely, [[User:Myth|Myth]] 18:41, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

: Be bold! I'll go ahead and do it for you if you haven't. ;) <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 00:19, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

::: Whoops! Shows you what I know. <span style="border: 1px solid #888; padding: 1px">'''[[User:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">ech</span>]][[User_talk:Echelon|<span style="color:#777;background-color:#eee;">elon</span>]]'''</span> 18:22, 30 May 2007 (CDT)