Talk:Eternal Sonata/Chapter 1: Raindrops: Difference between revisions

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Later in the walkthrough we have an achievement worth 321 points and that doesn't really fit in the template:
Later in the walkthrough we have an achievement worth 321 points and that doesn't really fit in the template:
{{achievement
{{achievement
|achievement=EZI Worshipper
|name=EZI Worshipper
|points=321
|image=Eternalsonata-achievement.jpg
|g=321
}}
}}
Any advice or thoughts?[[User:Minx|Minx]] 03:41, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
Any advice or thoughts?[[User:Minx|Minx]] 03:41, 7 April 2008 (CDT)
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:::The only problem with the spoiler is it relies on JavaScript, so any users that don't have it enabled won't be able to see what's inside. If you don't like the look of some of the elements, you're free to make your own [[StrategyWiki:Guide/Templates|template]]. See {{t|Zelda PoH}} for an example. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 20:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:::The only problem with the spoiler is it relies on JavaScript, so any users that don't have it enabled won't be able to see what's inside. If you don't like the look of some of the elements, you're free to make your own [[StrategyWiki:Guide/Templates|template]]. See {{t|Zelda PoH}} for an example. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 20:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Lemme look into it. Perhaps I can provide an improved version of the spoiler template, one that has a NOSCRIPT element that shows the spoiler automatically if JS isn't allowed. I've seen this kind of behavior before in Wikipedia, so I know it's possible. I'll just need to study the source code for a bit...—[[User:WhosAsking|WhosAsking]] 12:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Lemme look into it. Perhaps I can provide an improved version of the spoiler template, one that has a NOSCRIPT element that shows the spoiler automatically if JS isn't allowed. I've seen this kind of behavior before in Wikipedia, so I know it's possible. I'll just need to study the source code for a bit...—[[User:WhosAsking|WhosAsking]] 12:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Doesn't look like I can go that way. Strategy Wiki lacks the refinement to do what I'm seeking. However, I can perhaps use the Spoiler template's formatting as a basis to create a different kind of sidebar template: one in this case with the title to the ''side'' rather than the top. This should look more graceful in our case. I'll try it on my page again and see how it looks. it'll always be visible, but I think it'll look more graceful in doing it.—[[User:WhosAsking|WhosAsking]] 18:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Looks like my solution is to employ a simple wiki table with inline styling. What do you think about it?—[[User:WhosAsking|WhosAsking]] 18:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I like it. I asked about the spoiler template once, since it would be pretty simple to use JS to collapse the element on page load so it would only be hidden for JS users, but I was told that it is more important to hide spoilers, and if the info is critical it shouldn't go in the template. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 16:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:I like this idea. I have a couple of comments - I think a better choice of colour could be used. The pale yellow and bright blue really stand out. Perhaps a lighter, less bold blue would suit better? The encore indicator is cool. Is there a way to make this a template so it is easier for people (read: me) to add in to the guide in the future? Also, most of the time the box runs all the way to the edge, despite not containing any text towards the end. In the [[Eternal_Sonata/Revolution#Forte_City_Prison|Forte City Prison]] section this stops so it doesn't run into the party template, is there an easy way to do this for them all? Maybe as part of the template? I've got my walkthrough handwritten in a notebook, which I have just found again after moving house. I'll start to type up the rest of the chapters for this guide over the next month --[[User:Minx|Minx]] 20:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::I can throw it into a template any time, or WhosAsking can. I'd also suggest making the the width of the cell that says "Encore" fixed for all of them. By the way, Minx, what blue are you talking about? The only blue I see is on the links. - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 20:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, sorry... the blue I meant is part of the Trading Sequence box rather than the encore indicator. --[[User:Minx|Minx]] 20:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Trading Sequence is using the {{t|sidebar}} with the banner class. It could be switched to normal class, but that's already being used all over the guide for battles. There should probably be some sort of consolidated color scheme for the whole guide, because right now there's green achievement boxes, purple battle boxes, blue trading sequence boxes and yellow encore boxes. :/ - [[User:Najzere|<span style="color:#909090">najzere</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Najzere|<span style="color:#993300">T</span>]]</sup> 21:01, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I see where you're going with the Encore template, but allow me to modify it a bit to make the text within just a little smaller. So much text in such a small sidebar will otherwise be a bit difficult to read. It'll also help to separate it from the mainline text.—[[User:WhosAsking|WhosAsking]] 09:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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