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Welcome to the talk page for Super Smash Brothers Melee.
Welcome to the talk page for Super Smash Brothers Melee.
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The following originated from [[wikibooks:Talk:Super Smash Bros. Melee]] (now merged here). Not all applies to the current state of the guide.
== Improvements ==
== Improvements ==
JC needs to be improved, along with Team Fox --[[User:Kiraki|Kiraki]] 14:04, 20 July 2005 (UTC)  
JC needs to be improved, along with Team Fox --[[User:Kiraki|Kiraki]] 14:04, 20 July 2005 (UTC)  
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-- As a note to this, I've noticed a LOT of things that desperatey needed a cleanup. For example, "A not-so-great in-your-face mid-air move." was used for one of Kirby's aerial moves. There are a lot more, some I fixed, others I left up to others' jurisdiction.--[[User:69.208.179.173|69.208.179.173]] 23:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
-- As a note to this, I've noticed a LOT of things that desperatey needed a cleanup. For example, "A not-so-great in-your-face mid-air move." was used for one of Kirby's aerial moves. There are a lot more, some I fixed, others I left up to others' jurisdiction.--[[User:69.208.179.173|69.208.179.173]] 23:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
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== Wikibooks merging ==
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http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee/List_of_Characters
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee/List_of_Characters
I don't know how to put it in the ToC, though. I want it so it says "Characters" with a link to that page, and then under it a link to each of the characters page I made. After that we can get rid of the move list and put it in the character specific page there. We don't have to, though. Now that i think about it, we should actually have a link on each character's page to their movelist -- [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 16:42, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
I don't know how to put it in the ToC, though. I want it so it says "Characters" with a link to that page, and then under it a link to each of the characters page I made. After that we can get rid of the move list and put it in the character specific page there. We don't have to, though. Now that i think about it, we should actually have a link on each character's page to their movelist -- [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 16:42, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
:Before we do anything I think if we're going to do it that way, we can just format the character page to look like that and then have subpages for the characters.  The "List of Characters" page should be deleted, since Characters is the same thing, however the list is compacted in the ToC of the Characters page.  We do need both to exist, character page and movelist so we'll keep them separate but we can either duplicate the movelist or just link to it.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 16:48, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
:Alternatively, I was thinking of just slapping on {{t|details}} to the beginning of each character section on the character page, and use it to link to a character subpage.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 16:51, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
::But we'll need a new page anyways if we plan on having two different pages. Well, maybe not. Maybe at the top of the characters page we could have a list for the in-depth characters. So it should be like this, I think:
Characters (You click that to be brought to the page with all the characters.)
Here it has each individual character.
Make sense? Like it? -- [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 20:52, 18 June 2007 (CDT)
Hey, that looks good. But I think it doesn't have to be so tall. Just have several shorter rows stretch out horizontally. [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 14:21, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
:Apo, what looks good?  Always specify what page you're talking about.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 16:27, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
::I was talking about the table of contents, there were links to each of the individual character pages. BUT, then Joshua went along and got rid of the characters being on the ToC, as if he has even been discussing with us about what we were doing. His reasoning was "Let's keep it compact" but it really isn't his choice. We CAN keep it compact, though, if we have many more rows with less people on each row. What I'm saying is it used to all be coming straight down in one column, but if we had four or five columns, it would be just fine. [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 13:53, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Why do we need the individual move lists to be noted?  --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 14:19, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
::::The move lists are already there.  They can be moved to '''Super Smash Bros. Melee/Character Name''' if everyone agrees to the move. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 14:49, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::Move?  Why not copy.  The individual character page is more than just a movelist.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 16:33, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::We would move the character pages (SSBM/Move lists/Fox -> SSBM/Fox) and then expand those pages to include full information about the character.  The /Characters page would be just for general information, perhaps with the "more info" links you suggested. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 16:49, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
:::::::I agree with Prod entirely. I ''also'' think, as to prevent large pages at first glance, have some things be a "Click to show all" type thing. Like the movelist could be like that, where you have to click a button to show it. Just like the pending tasks at the top of this page, except not pending tasks :) So do we agree that we should create ''new'' pages for each individual pages and then get rid of the movelist pages? Is it possible to change the name? Well either would work. Oops. I forgot my signature, a day late, but here it is: [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 15:12, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
::::::::Yeah I guess that will work.  If it turns out bad we can always change it ahaha. --[[User:Notmyhandle|{{{2|Notmyhandle}}}]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 19:26, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
I would be against using the "show" type thing.  It requires javascript meaning that people who don't have it enabled won't be able to use the page.  I think the "more info" links should be good enough. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|Talk]]) 20:40, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
:So are we or are we '''not''' making whole new pages and deleting the move list pages? [[User:Apokid|Apo Jack]] 21:53, 22 June 2007 (CDT)
::'''Characters''': General page, shows some strategy info/some generic info on each character, links to personal page.  '''Personal Page''': Has a copy of the movelist, full strategy.  '''Movelist''': Either lists the movelist of every character, or links to the specific movelist of each character, NOT the personal page.  At SW we have move list pages that are a special kind, I think we should still have one for each SSBM character.  --[[User:Notmyhandle|Notmyhandle]] ([[User talk:Notmyhandle|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Notmyhandle|contribs]]) 12:10, 23 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Kind of late to the discussion, but why do we need three character pages?  I think that a single /Characters page would be perfect for generic information and links to the Move Lists pages.  Do we really need a personal page for each character?  I would like to standardize the three Smash Bros. pages if at all possible so that they are in a similar style and format.  If the ToC is in alphabetical order, shouldn't the characters on the character pages also be in alphabetical order?  Things are very confusing right now.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 09:03, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
::::The problem is the characters page is already massive, and there's a ton of individual content (probably the total size would double).  SW already is bogged down and loading a page like that might not even work.  --{{User:Notmyhandle/Sig}} 15:22, 7 October 2007 (CDT)
== Completion Stage 4 ==
I've moved this guide to completion stage 4, if you disagree please feel free to change it back.--'''[[User:Dukeruckley|<font color="blue">Duke</font><font color="red">Ruckley</font>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Dukeruckley|Talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Dukeruckley|Contribs]]</small></sup>''' 13:48, 9 March 2008 (CDT)
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