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I REALLY think it would be worthwhile to merge this cover page with the TOC. [[User:Mason11987/Zeldatest|This is how I think it should look]]. If it's moved the intro and TOC red links will work. Since this is the "feature guide" it should be the most easy to navigate, and with a cover page, it simply isn't. Tell me what you think. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 14:40, 23 May 2006 (PDT) | I REALLY think it would be worthwhile to merge this cover page with the TOC. [[User:Mason11987/Zeldatest|This is how I think it should look]]. If it's moved the intro and TOC red links will work. Since this is the "feature guide" it should be the most easy to navigate, and with a cover page, it simply isn't. Tell me what you think. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 14:40, 23 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
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What happened to [[Template:Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Nav]]? I saw that it was replaced with [[Template:Zelda:_OOT_walkthrough_nav]]. Personally, I think having nav links in the main body makes the links more inaccessible and the article seem more jumbled, but perhaps that's just me. I think we should have more discourse on this matter. What are the pros/cons of each method? '''[[User:Echelon|ech]][[User_talk:Echelon|<font color="#125">elon</font>]]'''<sup>[[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]]</sup> 22:14, 25 May 2006 (PDT) | What happened to [[Template:Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Nav]]? I saw that it was replaced with [[Template:Zelda:_OOT_walkthrough_nav]]. Personally, I think having nav links in the main body makes the links more inaccessible and the article seem more jumbled, but perhaps that's just me. I think we should have more discourse on this matter. What are the pros/cons of each method? '''[[User:Echelon|ech]][[User_talk:Echelon|<font color="#125">elon</font>]]'''<sup>[[Image:Ocarina.gif|...]]</sup> 22:14, 25 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
:Well, [[Template:Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Nav]] was on every page of the walkthrough which was to be honest incredibly ugly looking and very jumbled. compare [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/The_Beginning&oldid=24294 the one with the ZOotNav] to the one with [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/The_Beginning&direction=next&oldid=24294 the walkthrough nav] I created. The edit (your edit) that added the other template said "new sidebar navigation" but all I see when I look at it is a massive bulleted/numbered list above what is useful information. If it is meant to provide a well designed sidebar nav then that's great but it is not what I see and probably not what most users would see (using up to date Firefox). So I created that walkthrough nav. I'm not sure how your sidebar nav was supposed to work but I don't see how having an organized and yet condensed nav providing all the links a person looking for a walkthrough would need is jumbled. I based the concept off of the FF7 guide at IGN (you might need insider to view it). It's very easy to navigate and looks very nice. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 19:08, 29 May 2006 (PDT) | :Well, [[Template:Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Nav]] was on every page of the walkthrough which was to be honest incredibly ugly looking and very jumbled. compare [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/The_Beginning&oldid=24294 the one with the ZOotNav] to the one with [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/The_Beginning&direction=next&oldid=24294 the walkthrough nav] I created. The edit (your edit) that added the other template said "new sidebar navigation" but all I see when I look at it is a massive bulleted/numbered list above what is useful information. If it is meant to provide a well designed sidebar nav then that's great but it is not what I see and probably not what most users would see (using up to date Firefox). So I created that walkthrough nav. I'm not sure how your sidebar nav was supposed to work but I don't see how having an organized and yet condensed nav providing all the links a person looking for a walkthrough would need is jumbled. I based the concept off of the FF7 guide at IGN (you might need insider to view it). It's very easy to navigate and looks very nice. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 19:08, 29 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
::Wait, are you using Monobook or something? [http://tinypic.com/116nlmf.png This] is what it looks like in BlueCloud (as opposed to [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=%20Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Ocarina_Songs&useskin=monobook like this in Monobook]). Currently there are no includes for Monobook so I can't patch it. If you ''are'' using BlueCloud you need to hard-refresh [[MediaWiki: | ::Wait, are you using Monobook or something? [http://tinypic.com/116nlmf.png This] is what it looks like in BlueCloud (as opposed to [http://strategywiki.net/w/index.php?title=%20Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Ocarina_Songs&useskin=monobook like this in Monobook]). Currently there are no includes for Monobook so I can't patch it. If you ''are'' using BlueCloud you need to hard-refresh [[MediaWiki:BlueCloud.css]] and [[MediaWiki:BlueCloud.js]]. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]<sup>[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]</sup> 01:46, 30 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
::: Well that's cool, I like that, it just didn't show up anywhere for me because I am using monobook. Couldn't you edit the common.css as it is edited [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css on wikipedia], or does it need js too? I realize blue cloud is the default, but the majority of wiki users are most familiar with monobook (since it is the default on wikipedia), and implementing something that looks horrible on monobook just because it looks good on the default here doesn't seem like a good option, you know? Until it can be worked out to work on most skins (if not all), I think an alternative would be better, don't you? Not like we'll delete the other zelda nav, but use something compatible with all until we get something better that's compatible with all. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 12:08, 30 May 2006 (PDT) | ::: Well that's cool, I like that, it just didn't show up anywhere for me because I am using monobook. Couldn't you edit the common.css as it is edited [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css on wikipedia], or does it need js too? I realize blue cloud is the default, but the majority of wiki users are most familiar with monobook (since it is the default on wikipedia), and implementing something that looks horrible on monobook just because it looks good on the default here doesn't seem like a good option, you know? Until it can be worked out to work on most skins (if not all), I think an alternative would be better, don't you? Not like we'll delete the other zelda nav, but use something compatible with all until we get something better that's compatible with all. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 12:08, 30 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
::::The only skin I can change from MediaWiki: pages at the moment is BlueCloud. I guess using a more compatible template in the meantime makes sense. I'll have to bug echelon about adding support for Common and Monobook. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]<sup>[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]</sup> 13:53, 30 May 2006 (PDT) | ::::The only skin I can change from MediaWiki: pages at the moment is BlueCloud. I guess using a more compatible template in the meantime makes sense. I'll have to bug echelon about adding support for Common and Monobook. [[User:Garrett|Garrett]]<sup>[[User talk:Garrett|Talk]]</sup> 13:53, 30 May 2006 (PDT) | ||
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::I assume you are suggesting you can do the javascript to make it work. I think it'd be a great idea and would be very useful. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 22:59, 9 June 2006 (PDT) | ::I assume you are suggesting you can do the javascript to make it work. I think it'd be a great idea and would be very useful. -- [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|Contributions]])</sup> 22:59, 9 June 2006 (PDT) | ||