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Here you will have to talk to four specific, otherwise irrelevant NPC's in order to progress with the plot.  You have to talk with the man who runs the Inn, the man inside the southwest house, the scholar inside the northeast house, and the blue NPC at the weapons shop (the one who looks like a warrior).  Only then can you go inside the Church.  When you do, talk to the pastor, go inside the bedroom, and talk to Evgenya in order to go to sleep.
After getting the [[File:Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png]] <span style="color:green">6th Mini Medal</span>, you will have to talk to four specific NPC's to progress with the plot.  You have to talk with the man who runs the Inn, the man inside the southwest house, the scholar inside the northeast house, and the blue NPC at the weapons shop (the one who looks like a warrior).  Only then can you go inside the Church.  When you do, talk to the pastor, go inside the bedroom, and talk to Evgenya so you can finally sleep inside the Church's bed.


When you do, you will suddenly find yourself in the Dream World version of Amor, with entirely new items and everything.  If you are playing the SNES version (and ''do not'' sell the Bronze Shield to do the following), you will want to buy a Steel Broadsword for Carver.  Then, if you can afford it, two Iron Shields for both Rex and Carver.  It is not vital that you purchase the two now however; you can wait until after the next dungeon to do so if needed.  And if you are playing the remakes, you should already have two Dragon Shields.   
When you do, you will suddenly find yourself in the Dream World version of Amor, with the [[File:Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png]] <span style="color:green">7th Mini Medal</span> and other entirely new items.  If you are playing the SNES version (and ''do not'' sell the Bronze Shield to do the following), you will want to buy a Steel Broadsword for Carver.  Then, if you can afford it, two Iron Shields for both Rex and Carver.  It is not vital that you purchase the two now however; you can wait until after the next dungeon to do so if needed.  And if you are playing the remakes, you should already have two Dragon Shields.   


Be sure to find the Bunny Ears as well; they will be Milly's strongest piece of headgear for a very long time.  Once you have gotten that and the rest of the items, move on to the cave of Amor; it's in the exact same spot as it was in the Real World.  Before you do, your party should look like the following...
Be sure to find the Bunny Ears as well; they will be Milly's strongest piece of headgear for a very long time.  Once you have gotten that and the rest of the items, move on to the cave of Amor; it's in the exact same spot as it was in the Real World.  Before you do, your party should look like the following...
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Now would be a good time to update this guide's recommended stat seed distributions; after all, you now have three members in your party instead of just one.
First things first, you should use the Lucida Shard on any group with more than 1 Babygoyle; You don't want their Sizzes draining your HP & MP.
 
 
 
{| {{prettytable|float=middle|notwide=2}}
!Stat Seed Recommendations
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* '''Seeds of Life (boosts HP by 4-6)''' - Use two on Milly, and one on a later PC named Nevan
* '''Seeds of Magic (boosts MP by 3-5)''' - Use them all on Rex
* '''Seeds of Strength (boosts Strength by 1-3)''' - Use them all on Carver
* '''Seeds of Agility (boosts Agility by 1-3)''' - Use them all on Milly
* '''Seeds of Resilience (boosts Resilience by 3-5)''' - Use them all on Carver
* '''Seeds of Wisdom (boosts Wisdom by 1-3)''' - Use them all on Carver
* '''Pretty Betsy (boosts Style by 1)''' - Use them all on Rex
|}
 
<blockquote>
'''About the Seeds of Life:''' ''There is an extremely long, terrifyingly hard boss fight coming up at the end of Chapter 3; In fact, it is arguably the third hardest boss fight in the entire game, one that is infamous for being difficult.  This is no hyperbole either; this boss is able to do up to '''95 Damage in a single round with his magic, even WITH the Enchanted Armour on!!'''''
 
''This isn't so much a problem if you have 10x Yggdrasil Leaves lying around from the Casino; but if not, you're going to desperately need Milly's help if you ever want to beat him consistently.  But she cannot pass that 95 HP threshold on her own without grinding; she's going to need two Seeds of Life in order to get there.''
 
'''About the Seeds of Magic and Pretty Betsy's:''' ''Same as before; Rex gets useful spells, and he doesn't have as much MP as others do. He also makes very good use of the Pretty Betsy's later on.''
 
'''About the Seeds of Strength, Resilience, and Wisdom:''' ''As said before, Carver is a pure melee attacker; what's more, he also has Forebearance.  But Forebearance strats will not work to their full potential if he is put under a status ailment, or comes up short on durability.''
 
'''About the Seeds of Agility:''' ''Milly plays a crucial supporting role in the many boss fights coming up; it's helpful to guarantee that she will go before them.''
</blockquote>


Of course, most of these are only recommendations; the only one that's true important is giving Milly some Seeds of Life if you're playing the SNES version.  And speaking of recommendations for the SNES version, it is also highly recommended that you kill a Metal Slime while you are on the second floor; they give out 1350 EXP, and are much easier to kill with three party members than they are with two.  When you do so, Milly will skyrocket all the way up to Level 8 and become much stronger than before.
Additionally, it is recommended that you grind Milly to Level 7 while you are on the second floor.  It has Metal Slimes that give out 1350 EXP, and are much easier to kill with three party members than they are with two.  When you kill one, Milly will skyrocket all the way up to Level 8 and become much stronger than before. Additionally, this specific floor has a 12% of catching the enemy by surprise, instead of the standard 3%. 


In fact, if you wish to be truely efficient about it, you would literally run around on Floor 2, running away from ''every single encounter'' until you finally find (and kill) a Metal Slime.  It sounds unorthodox, but it's faster to do that than it is to simply fight every enemy until you gain 1350 EXP.  This is not mandatory however, not even in the SNES version.  Skipping this opportunity just means that you may have to fight more enemies before being able to take on that one Chapter 3 boss.   
This is not mandatory however, not even in the SNES version.  Skipping this opportunity just means that you may have to fight more enemies before being able to take on that one Chapter 3 boss.   


Whatever you decide to do, get the Mini Medal first, then the Edged Boomerang, then the 410G.  Do not get '''''any''''' of the other treasures until you have slain the boss; all enemies in this dungeon will disappear upon the Grrrgoyle's defeat.  Speaking of which...
Whatever you decide to do, get the [[File:Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png]] <span style="color:green">8th Mini Medal</span> first, then the Edged Boomerang, then the 410G.  Do not get any of the other treasures until you have slain the boss; all enemies in this dungeon will disappear upon the Grrrgoyle's defeat.  Speaking of which...


== VS. Grrrgoyle ==
== VS. Grrrgoyle ==
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!A.I. Pecularities:
!A.I. Pecularities:
|Low HP Targeting (SNES only), Concentrated Targeting
|None
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!Resistances:
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You will note several new aspects to this game's enemy A.I.  First of all, this is the very first boss in the game to operate on a semi-fixed pattern instead of the random ones we saw before.  The Grrrgoyle will ''always'' use either Slash or Fuddle Dance for it's first move.  It will always use Dazzleflash or Fuddle Dance for it's second move, and then it will always use a Slash or regular Attack for it's third moveThen it will go back to the start of it's three step pattern until the end of the fight.
The Grrrgoyle is relatively easy.  It has no resistance to Sap, and Milly's Buff spell will utterly negate it's physical attacks if she casts them enough times on someoneThis guide only mentions all of this for later on, when the bosses are not so simple.


Secondly, this enemy has two special kinds of targeting. While some enemies have an equal chance of attacking any PC in your party, 50% or more of them (including most bosses) will attack your party based on who is in what slot in your party.  This is why Carver is in the 1st slot of all of the Equipment recommendation tables listed in this guide so far.
== Aftermath ==


<blockquote>
Talk to Ilya and raid any chests that you skipped on the way to the boss.  After that, go back to Amor, rest up at the Church, and you will find yourself back in the Real World.  By the end of it all, you should have both the Agility Ring (30+ Agility) and the Moonmirror Key in your possession.  So return to Somnia, and head on out to Moonmirror Tower!
'''Slot 1 (Carver) - 44% chance of being targeted'''
 
'''Slot 2 (Rex) - 39% chance of being targeted'''
 
'''Slot 3 (Milly) - 15% chance of being targeted'''


'''Slot 4 (N/A) - 1% chance of being targeted'''
[[File:DQ6 Path to Moonmirror Tower.jpg]]
</blockquote>


However, some enemies will break this ruleLow HP targeting means that the Grrrgoyle will decide who it attacks based on what percentage a PC has of their maximum HPSo for example, if your party looks like this...
{{sidebar|title=The Metal Slimes|float=left|width=880px|contents=A speed-runner name Kuneo simulated 200 battles to test how often Metal Slimes appearedFrom that test, he saw them appear about 50 times, suggesting an appearance rate of around 25%.   


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Of those 50 encounters, he managed to defeat them around 16 times.  This suggests a success rate of around 32%.  Data-miners have also concluded that Metal Slimes have a 33% of running away per round.
'''Carver (60/80 HP) - 75% chance of his HP'''


'''Rex (38/40 HP) - 95% of his HP'''
Single targeting weapons have a 50/50 chance of doing either 0 Damage, or 1 Damage, along with a ~1.5% chance of scoring a critical hit (more than enough to OHKO any Metal monster).  Boomerangs & Whips will never hurt Metal Slimes, unless it's in the leftmost spot of the group attacked.  Even then, Boomerangs & Whips are hard-coded to never crit... So single-targeting attacks are always used for Metal Slime hunting.


'''Milly (12/12 HP) - 100% of her HP'''
Based on the above information, and the fact that Metal Slimes can spawn anywhere from 4-6 HP (4-5, if playing the Remakes), Kuneo made a simulator to calculate the odds of killing a Metal Slime.
</blockquote>


The Grrrgoyle will always target Carver.  After that is where Concentrated Targeting comes in.  When an enemy has Concentrated targeting, it will ''keep on attacking'' said PC until one of two things happen...
After 1 Battle: 7.4%<br/>
 
After 5 Battles: 32%<br/>
# '''The PC dies.'''
After 10 Battles: 53.7%<br/>
# '''It arrives at the start of it's semi-fixed Attack Pattern (if it has one).'''
After 15 Battles: 68.5%<br/>
 
After 20 Battles: 78.6%<br/>
Assuming that the second option is what occurs, the Grrrgoyle will then choose to attack whoever has the lowest percentage of their Max HP.  So if Carver ends up at 80 HP, and Rex ends up at 20 HP, the Grrrgoyle will turn it's focus to Rex instead.
After 30 Battles: 90.1%<br/>
 
After 40 Battles: 95.4%<br/>
Of course, none of this matters too much as far as this fight goes, for the Grrrgoyle is relatively easy. It has no resistance to Sap, and Milly's Buff spell will utterly negate it's physical attacks if she casts them enough times on someone.  This guide only mentions all of this for later on, when the bosses are not so simple.
 
== Aftermath ==
 
Talk to Ilya and raid any chests that you skipped on the way to the boss.  After that, go back to Amor, rest up at the Church, and you will find yourself back in the Real World.  By the end of it all, you should have both the Agility Ring (30+ Agility) and the Moonmirror Key in your possession. So return to Somnia, and head on out to Moonmirror Tower!


[[File:DQ6 Path to Moonmirror Tower.png]]
Note that there are diminishing returns for every battle you fight, due to how percentages work. Also note that Kuneo did this on the SNES version, and failed to account for the 12% chance of pre-emptive attacks.  For that reason, your success rate will probably be slightly higher.}}


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Latest revision as of 13:51, 8 May 2020

Map for Amor in the Real World
Map for Amor in the Dream World

After getting the Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png 6th Mini Medal, you will have to talk to four specific NPC's to progress with the plot. You have to talk with the man who runs the Inn, the man inside the southwest house, the scholar inside the northeast house, and the blue NPC at the weapons shop (the one who looks like a warrior). Only then can you go inside the Church. When you do, talk to the pastor, go inside the bedroom, and talk to Evgenya so you can finally sleep inside the Church's bed.

When you do, you will suddenly find yourself in the Dream World version of Amor, with the Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png 7th Mini Medal and other entirely new items. If you are playing the SNES version (and do not sell the Bronze Shield to do the following), you will want to buy a Steel Broadsword for Carver. Then, if you can afford it, two Iron Shields for both Rex and Carver. It is not vital that you purchase the two now however; you can wait until after the next dungeon to do so if needed. And if you are playing the remakes, you should already have two Dragon Shields.

Be sure to find the Bunny Ears as well; they will be Milly's strongest piece of headgear for a very long time. Once you have gotten that and the rest of the items, move on to the cave of Amor; it's in the exact same spot as it was in the Real World. Before you do, your party should look like the following...

Carver (Level 8-9): Steel Broadsword, Fur Cape/Platinum Mail, Iron/Dragon Shield, Hardwood Headware, Gold Bracer
Rex (Level 8-9): Boomerang, Royal Clothes/Platinum Mail, Iron/Dragon Shield, Hardwood Headware, Gold Bracer
Milly (Level 5): Thorn Whip, Silk Robe, Bunny Ears, Gold Bracer

Cave of Amor[edit]

DQ6 Cave North of Amor.png

First things first, you should use the Lucida Shard on any group with more than 1 Babygoyle; You don't want their Sizzes draining your HP & MP.

Additionally, it is recommended that you grind Milly to Level 7 while you are on the second floor. It has Metal Slimes that give out 1350 EXP, and are much easier to kill with three party members than they are with two. When you kill one, Milly will skyrocket all the way up to Level 8 and become much stronger than before. Additionally, this specific floor has a 12% of catching the enemy by surprise, instead of the standard 3%.

This is not mandatory however, not even in the SNES version. Skipping this opportunity just means that you may have to fight more enemies before being able to take on that one Chapter 3 boss.

Whatever you decide to do, get the Dragon Warrior 3 SNES Small Medal.png 8th Mini Medal first, then the Edged Boomerang, then the 410G. Do not get any of the other treasures until you have slain the boss; all enemies in this dungeon will disappear upon the Grrrgoyle's defeat. Speaking of which...

VS. Grrrgoyle[edit]

Recommended Level: Rex Lvl 9-10, Carver Lvl 9-10, Milly Lvl 7-8
Recommended A.I. Settings for Party (Remakes Only; SNES A.I. is bad): Everyone (Focus on Healing)
HP: 380
MP: 0
Item: Iron Claw (1/64 of dropping)
Attack: 69
Defense: 72
Agility: 65
EXP: 330
Gold: 250
Attack Patterns: Slash [1.25x damage]/Fuddle Dance -> Dazzleflash/Fuddle Dance -> Slash [1.25x damage]/Attack -> Repeat the Cycle
A.I. Pecularities: None
Resistances: No resistance to Sap, 15% resistance to Dazzle, 30% damage reduction of Crack spells, 100% resistance to Lucida Shard and Poison Moth Knife

The Grrrgoyle is relatively easy. It has no resistance to Sap, and Milly's Buff spell will utterly negate it's physical attacks if she casts them enough times on someone. This guide only mentions all of this for later on, when the bosses are not so simple.

Aftermath[edit]

Talk to Ilya and raid any chests that you skipped on the way to the boss. After that, go back to Amor, rest up at the Church, and you will find yourself back in the Real World. By the end of it all, you should have both the Agility Ring (30+ Agility) and the Moonmirror Key in your possession. So return to Somnia, and head on out to Moonmirror Tower!

DQ6 Path to Moonmirror Tower.jpg

The Metal Slimes

A speed-runner name Kuneo simulated 200 battles to test how often Metal Slimes appeared. From that test, he saw them appear about 50 times, suggesting an appearance rate of around 25%.

Of those 50 encounters, he managed to defeat them around 16 times. This suggests a success rate of around 32%. Data-miners have also concluded that Metal Slimes have a 33% of running away per round.

Single targeting weapons have a 50/50 chance of doing either 0 Damage, or 1 Damage, along with a ~1.5% chance of scoring a critical hit (more than enough to OHKO any Metal monster). Boomerangs & Whips will never hurt Metal Slimes, unless it's in the leftmost spot of the group attacked. Even then, Boomerangs & Whips are hard-coded to never crit... So single-targeting attacks are always used for Metal Slime hunting.

Based on the above information, and the fact that Metal Slimes can spawn anywhere from 4-6 HP (4-5, if playing the Remakes), Kuneo made a simulator to calculate the odds of killing a Metal Slime.

After 1 Battle: 7.4%
After 5 Battles: 32%
After 10 Battles: 53.7%
After 15 Battles: 68.5%
After 20 Battles: 78.6%
After 30 Battles: 90.1%
After 40 Battles: 95.4%

Note that there are diminishing returns for every battle you fight, due to how percentages work. Also note that Kuneo did this on the SNES version, and failed to account for the 12% chance of pre-emptive attacks. For that reason, your success rate will probably be slightly higher.