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Archive Date Archived
Archive #1 September 4th, 2013.

Archives and bots (ctd.)[edit]

To archive:

  1. Delete content that is out of date/to be archived.
  2. At the top of the page (in Monobook theme, not sure about Dolphin - the current default) click "history".
  3. Click on (or open a new tab) the date stamp (e.g. "15:21, September 4, 2013" without quotes for Archive #1) for #the last edit before you deleted content (that loads the page as it was before you deleted stuff).
  4. Copy the URL (you could combine this with #3 if you know hot to right click copy URL from the link).
  5. Edit the current talk page and add the URL as a new entry in the archives table. Just copy the line for archive #1 and fill in the URL, change the archive number, and change the archive date. Done.

--Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


It was unfortunately not compatible with the newest version of MediaWiki, and I haven't been able to get it working. I'm looking into getting a newer (maintained) version working. Unfortunately, it's back to single uploading for now. Sorry about the inconvenience. -- Prod (talk) 01:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I'll see if there are any settings I can mess with to make it more streamlined, but unfortunately the old one was getting a lot more difficult to maintain with each release (no updates in over a year). -- Prod (talk) 03:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
If you want to replace an image you will have to do it the normal way by going to the file page, then under the file history is a link labeled "Upload a new version of this file". --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 20:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

@ Notmyhandle (talk contribs), yeah, I've been doing that for a while. I just wish I could do so in bulk, though. --PirateIzzy (talk) 21:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

MapleStory/Shields and Off-Hand Weapons[edit]

The class-specific items on this page: MapleStory/Shields and Off-Hand Weapons should be moved to the class equipment pages. A note should then be added to the top of the page noting what classes cannot use shields (either because of restrictions or because their off hand is un-removable, like Mihile's shield). That would be a good way to get the class equipment pages started (they are the most common red-linked/non-existent page type at this time). As usual, this is not an order, but my opinion, so if you have any ideas please let me know =) --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 04:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. You are definitely our current MapleStory guide guardian (this is how I think of it). We really appreciate all your help.
That said, I am not sure how to deal with the class equipment pages. We can either link to each equipment page or set them up like templates and insert the tables onto both pages. Any thoughts? --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 05:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

MapleStory skill template overhaul vote[edit]

Please see StrategyWiki:Staff lounge#MapleStory skill template overhaul vote. We need your input. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Theme Dungeon quest subpaging[edit]

The Theme Dungeon page is too long and needs to be sub-paged. I think we should try to move them to the Theme Dungeon pages themselves. If the pages are too big, then we can move them to something like Mushroom Kingdom quests and put a link between parentheses in the Table of Contents.--Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 05:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I was brainstorming some different ways we could do this, but anything elaborate will require us to move the quest section to its own horizontally laid out columns like we did for Jobs, Town,s Monsters, etc. I'm fine with that. I forgot how large our regional quests are. We could change the regional areas to level requirement sub-sections. So we would have an unclickable column header in bold like "Victoria Island" and bulleted links below like "Levels 1-30", "Levels 30-75", etc. We can either break them up into really small sections, which is not necessary, or - I just had a good idea - what if we broke them up into the levels that jobs take place in? E.g. 1-10 (pre-1st), 11-30 (1st), 30-75 (2nd), 75-120 (3rd), 120-200+ (4th). We wouldn't put the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. in the title or anything, but if we broke it up that way it would make sense more for players to focus on quests in their level range. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 19:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction. I couldn't remember what the range was now. By town, were you thinking quests that start in Perion, Henesys, etc.? I think that is less important because there are only a few for a given level range and are completed quickly. Victoria Island as a whole has enough quests to keep players busy, and that's how I play the game - I always run around and grab all of the quests as they are available for me. There are also quests that take place on the roads outside of the towns. I would prefer sorting by level requirement over town simply because no one cares what town the quest is - they just want to know where to find it, how easy is it, and what is the reward. These are the metrics that we use to figure out whether or not spending our time on the act is worthwhile. It is primarily for power-levelers, but most people do not do all quests. I am only one of a few that try to do _all_ quests unbiased towards the rewards or difficulty. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 20:02, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Argh, I didn't think Dolphin would cause problems. I use Monobook because it uses the full screen width. Dolphin is severely limited to like 600px width. I enjoy having more like 1000 to look at. I've been here long enough to know that our public theme is not permanent, so, I think we should stick to a single column layout to avoid theme preference differences. HOWEVER, to make the situation more complicated (sorry!!!), we do not have a policy of formatting all content for Dolphin, so I think we are ok to do single column layout, but I like double column layout. Thus, the two deciding factors here are 1) should we be making this content as best as possible for anonymous readers, or for ourselves (since every registered user can change their preferences). 2) To make everyone happy and keep a 2 column layout, readers will have to be tolerant of bumpiness. We can resolve both issues by changing to a single column layout. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 18:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, we voted on a solution that would work, but now that solution is broken/has a "bug". We either have to re-vote or switch to single column that is known to work. We might as well go with single column for now. It is easy to add columns later if someone wants to bring up the vote. I am no longer inclined to do so - I prefer the solution where everyone wins. 2-column is nice looking, but that is all. It is just used to save vertical space on the page. No one will oppose us if we go with single column layout. I will begin converting Warrior Skills. Sorry for all of this work, but I think we finally found a working solution we won't have to change around again - and we have the reasoning to back it up. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 17:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Just FYI, while I was daydreaming at work I figured out how we could add another parameter to add a fixed width for the columns. This would make it work in Monobook and wider-width themes. However, we would still have to use bump. I don't want to pursue it, but it is an option. Btw, I have been thinking of nominating you to become a sysop lately. I am patrolling your edits less and less without inspecting all of your work in detail, since I trust that it is superb, and I think so far our collaborations have been successful and cordial, which is all we really want around here. The main benefit is that your edits would be auto-patrolled. I don't know if you've been an admin on a wiki before, but there are hidden features that will be available to you after your permissions are upgraded. Patrolling is the main one, and it lets you look at the Recent Changes list and see if anyone has marked an edit as patrolled - it is an honor system among the admins where a patrolled edit is one that has been taken care of. I don't fully trust patrolled edits by non-admins, so I always double check them to see if something was missed, but it helps! It narrows down the list of "todo" significantly, but when you see it you will be overwhelmed by how much work there is left to do. Whenever I log on here I try to review as many edits as possible. Fight corruption! --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 22:02, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


Your nomination has been submitted. Please fill out the top half of the page, here: StrategyWiki:Requests for permissions/PirateIzzy. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 08:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Please sign after the line that says "Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:" --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 19:06, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah we need more people to vote. I will notify the others since it has been a few days. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Congrats on sysop permissions :). There's a guide, or feel free to ask any other sysops if you need help with something. -- Prod (talk) 04:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations! Let me know if you have any questions. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 17:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Holy cracker, I had no idea you'd been nominated. Congrats, and here's to hoping you keep on protecting MapleStory! :D --WarioTalk 18:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey PirateIzzy, I feel that I owe you an apology and a very overdue congratulations. I should have commented on your nomination and promotion much sooner than now, but I've been extremely pressed for time lately. I have absolutely noted your commitment and dedication to the Maple Story guide, and adminship is a truly well deserved reward. Thank you for being such an outstanding contributor to the site, I'm confident that you will continue to be one of our top editors. Procyon 01:56, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

About editing[edit]

Hi, could I edit something like monster carnival on a template if MapleSEA releases it?Darrylpoh (talk) 10:05, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Dead Links fixing[edit]

You know about toolbox which is under navigation and search-box left (I don't know in which mode you browse SW)? well there is "What links here" which show you pages of which are linked to the choosed page. A Special:WhatLinksHere/MapleStory/Towns/Lith_Harbor. This help you to fix any red links which happens often after you move a Page. Paco (talk) 18:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Adding here, when you move files without a redirect, use the WhatLinksHere special page on the deleted page/redirect to fix redlinks. --Arseny1992 (talk · contribs) 05:56, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

You didn't need to remind me, I've done this plenty of times before. I was in the middle of a massive overhaul of the Mushroom Castle page when I moved that page name, which is why I didn't save it immediately. PirateIzzy (talk) 06:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Ah ok then --Arseny1992 (talk · contribs) 07:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Blocking IPs[edit]

Hey PirateIzzy, thanks very much for reverting the vandalismm and blocking the offending IPs. One thing to note (and don't worry, everybody makes this mistake at first) is that we try not to block IP addresses indefinitely. You never know if that IP address will be assigned to someone else who might make good edits. We do indefinitely block users who sign up solely for the purpose of spamming or vandalizing the site, so if the offender actually bothered to create an account, by all means, block them forever. For IPs, just choose some period of time that you think is fitting. By the time the block goes away, they usually stop bothering to try. Procyon 20:39, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

--PirateIzzy (talk) 23:20, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

RED updates[edit]

In order to do this effectively, we need a checklist. I can't keep track of what you have edited because you are so fast! I would probably do better to edit one of the other pages for now, but I don't have as much time as you. My time is better spent patrolling for now. The checklist would help you, too. I know you have a pre/post red list, but it would be better if there was a table that had a single column: updated. Then each row is the skill name. You could do separate tables for each class/job. After a skill is done, you change the table data from nothing or {{no}} to {{yes}}. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 20:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Good idea. Focus on updates first, then we can check our work. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 06:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for the data loss[edit]

Hey PI, I saw your note to Prod, and I just wanted to apologize for any hard work that you may have lost. Believe me, we tried to avoid having to roll back, but the data on one of the server's drive arrays was too far corrupted to be considered reliable any more. If there was any way that we could have avoided it, we would have, but it just wasn't an option unfortunately. Again, I'm very sorry for losing some of your great work, but considering the recency of the backup, I'm glad that we didn't lose more than we did. I certainly understand your frustration. If there's anything we can do (short of a miracle) please let us know. Thanks PI. Procyon 03:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I tried what I could to recover the database, but unfortunately the control data is what got damaged by the drive failure. In the interests of getting the site back up and running/useful I had to restore from the latest valid backup we had. I've kept a copy of the database files before I restored the databases, and I'm going to see if I can pull the latest changes out of them, but I can't make any promises. Do you know the names of the specific pages that you modified so I can search for them directly? -- Prod (talk) 05:34, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
It's interesting that you mentioned using a text editor first. Lately, I have been using Google Drive for a similar purpose. I can create content when I'm somewhere where access to SW is blocked, and then I can copy/paste the content later on (and I don't have to worry about where I save it since it's on the cloud). I forget how frequently we perform backups, but I'm pretty sure it's once every 24 hours, so if I hold on to my content for a day, its safe to assume it was backed up. Hope this idea helps you. Procyon 15:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
If I manage to get any data back, I'll do what I can to merge information. Otherwise, I'll just save it as a separate page (on like a subpage or a talk page) and you can take out whatever information you can. -- Prod (talk) 08:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
No problem. You've been great to us, so whatever you want to do is fine. We haven't had more than a handful of Maple edits recently, besides yours. I hope MapleWiki gets better with your help. In the past I never really found it useful, because it was so out of date. Tis the problem with MMOs and patches. I would poke Prod (talk · contribs) for that info. Most likely he was unable to recover any of it. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:22, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

Hey Izzy! I'm glad to hear from you. MS hasn't seen much developments, except for some changes to the basic party quests. Someone started adding info about "Cross world" versions. Check out Moon Bunny and First Time party quests. Otherwise things have not been updated much. I'm sure a new class and several events have come out. I actually re-downloaded the game myself recently because I wanted to play during the SAO events, but I missed it by a few days. I was really bummed about that. I recently re-did the table of contents a bit to make more space for party quests. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 16:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

I think I know what you're getting at, but I don't think that work is worth your time. It does not seem like a superior way to present the data. Thanks for coming back once in a while. I'll make sure to keep the MS guide polished!--Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 21:09, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Pages missing from ToC[edit]

I've added a few pages to the ToC, can you verify that they're in the right place? -- Prod (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

If the features are no longer in the game, they should either be under a "no longer accessible section" or the pages should be deleted (if they were reworked into something else). Please mark any pages for deletion with {{delete}} if they aren't going to be used anymore. -- Prod (talk) 22:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Can I delete these pages? -- Prod (talk) 15:19, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Ghost Ship and Ice Knight's Curse are still listed on Template:MapleStory/Versions/Accompaniments, should those be removed? -- Prod (talk) 14:32, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination: Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar for featured[edit]

Long, long ago... Procyon asked me if I wanted to propose for "featured guide" one of my Ultima guides. I recently completed the guide for Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar. If there is an Ultima that deserves to be put under the limelight, this is the one. The player can learn actual philosophy from it! All the game invites the player to improve him/herself in real life. It is an absolutely unique game in history of role-playing video games. --Abacos (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)