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I made this to place a non-breaking space and a middot followed by a space, which is an idea I copied from Wikipedia. It makes link lists look much nicer, since I have found that most guide-specific navigation templates with link lists simply use commas to separate the links. Maybe I should have initiated a discussion before doing this, but it appears to have turned out rather well. If everyone thinks this is a good idea, then maybe an admin should protect this template as it could potentially see widespread usage. --New User 21:47, 8 January 2008 (CST)

It could use a better name, as that character is not standard on keyboards. Also, something to this effect is already in use in {{user}} (Skizzerz (talk · contribs) for example). As for appearances, I suppose it really depends on what the list is used for as for what separator to use. Again, though, it could use a better name. And no protection until it gets approved :) --Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 22:01, 8 January 2008 (CST)
Ok. Who has to approve it? I'm not familiar with the process ;) Wikipedia uses {{dot}} and middot as redirects for their template, so maybe we could use a name like that? Also, the dot in the {{user}} template is a small-sized bullet, and doesn't have the non-breaking space. The small-sized bullet and the bold middot appear identical on my monitor (which I had noticed before) but I don't know if there a reason to use one over the other. Maybe they wouldn't look identical if a font size other than the default size were used? --New User 22:10, 8 January 2008 (CST)
Usually things that affect the site in general go on SW:CI. But we all dicuss it until we come to a consensus. Except for the naming, I think it looks good in that usage. -- Prod (Talk) 22:43, 8 January 2008 (CST)
I'm good with it, and I would support it on the condition that "interpunct" is the canonical template name to it, with "dot" being the preferred redirect to it. It's semantically better to use an interpunct ("middot") rather than a bullet, as bullets are for denoting list items, while interpuncts are for separating words (or, in this case, game names).
Why use a template that takes a minimum of five characters when you can just hardcode the dot? --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 02:31, 9 January 2008 (CST)
Because hardcoding takes a minimum on nine characters (two spaces, six single quotes, and the middot). {{dot}} sounds like the best name for me. --Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 16:15, 9 January 2008 (CST)
Just as an aside, can people please stop linking to uncreated prospective pages/templates while discussing them? Half the time, the page/template doesn't get created with that name, so you're just creating dangling links which fill up the wanted pages list. [/OCD] --DrBob (talk) 17:16, 9 January 2008 (CST)
Sorry, I didn't even know there was a wanted pages list... My intent for the template is indeed because hardcoding takes more characters, more than nine if a line break is necessary (which is the reason for the &nbsp). So should I just change it to "dot" and then make the current template into a redirect? --New User 18:57, 10 January 2008 (CST)
Everything taken care of. Now ready for real usage. --Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 20:30, 10 January 2008 (CST)

How do I add refs / footnotes to a sub-page?

Master of Orion II/Getting Started contains refs / footnotes, which mostly link to detailed info on how to install MOO II and get it running. I've added a section "References" at the bottom, containing a reflist tag; but neither the heading nor the refs / footnotes are visible. How do I make them visible? Philcha 11:50, 11 January 2008 (CST)

It was because the last ref link to was left open with no closing ] or </ref>. I've fixed this, is it OK now?--The preceding signed comment was added by Rocky (talkcontribs). 14:03, 11 January 2008 (CST)

Supposedly abandoned page?

Hi ppl! I'm new to the site, to begin with, so please forgive me for not understanding some things maybe.. Anyway, the guide for Nox was brought to my attention. It looked like it was just started, a lot of things were missing or incomplete. Since then nobody exept me ever made any additions or contributions. I'm also not sure who was building the guide in the first place. My question to you (staff, seniors, writer of current Nox guide) is: is this guide abandoned (by the original writer)? And if yes, may I revise the entire guide, maybe deleting parts of the original writers contribution to the guide? I don't know if I can ask such a thing here anyway, else, let me know how to contact the original writer to discuss this topic directly with him. By the way, Nox rules supreme, just as this site! Keep it up..--Jojop 07:28, 12 January 2008 (CST)

You'd probably want to talk to Notmyhandle, who I believe is the original author. He's still active on the site (a sysop in fact, which may explain why he hasn't had time to continue the guide ;-), and I'm sure he'd be happy to discuss it with you if you leave him a message on his talk page. :-) --DrBob (talk) 09:29, 12 January 2008 (CST)
Yeah I'm the one who started it, PM me or get on IRC if you want to collaborate - I haven't played in a while just cuz... Well I haven't =/ --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 11:13, 12 January 2008 (CST)
Btw, feel free to edit whatever you like. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 11:15, 12 January 2008 (CST)

Delete page Super Mario Galaxy/Bouy Base Galaxy

Can someone delete page Super Mario Galaxy/Bouy Base Galaxy which I accidentally created? It redirects to the page with the correct spelling, but I don't think the redirect page needs to exist at all. Cheers. --Pelago 16:31, 13 January 2008 (CST)

It would appear that Procyon took care of this. --PowerMatt 20:47, 15 January 2008 (CST)
In the future, you can just add {{delete}} to the top of the page and an admin will delete it sooner or later. - Koweja 13:22, 19 January 2008 (CST)

Template links to series sepecfic wikis

Are there any specific rules about making templates to like to other wikis, such as the one for {{zeldawiki}}? As in, does SW need to have some kind of partnership with the other wiki, or something like that? Or can I go ahead and make more? - Koweja 13:21, 19 January 2008 (CST)

I think it's best if we make an official partnership with such wikis first. Please bring up any partnerships you think would be a good idea on community issues. Thanks. --DrBob (talk) 14:30, 19 January 2008 (CST)

Problem with ToC

Hello all-

I was recently working on the Table of Contents for Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings, and now when I go and look at it, the ToC is in the header. I have no idea what is going on, but I would appreciate some help. Thank you all in advance.

Angel14995 14:37, 22 January 2008 (CST)

All taken care of. The first {{col}} was missing the begin parameter to indicate that the columns were starting. That caused the page to misinterpret the first column as being part of the nav. Procyon (Talk) 15:21, 22 January 2008 (CST)
Thank you very much. Angel14995 20:01, 22 January 2008 (CST)


I'm attempting to display an image so that when you hover over it, it links to a specified page. But I'm unsure of how to link it correctly. I've looked at this page and the link to the mediawiki page but the syntax they give is too confusing. What is the correct syntax for linking the whole image to the page?Sims2Guy 19:21, 27 January 2008 (CST)

If that's all the image is being used for, then edit the image page itself and make it redirect to the page in question. Otherwise, don't bother as it will just be confusing. The way to make a redirect is as thus (replace the current text in the image page with this, switching "Somepage" with the page you want to redirect to and "Image category" with the category(ies) the image belongs in):
#REDIRECT [[Somepage]]

[[Category:Image category]]
If you REALLY want to make it link without having to use the redirection (again, highly not recommended), the code is as thus:
default [[somepage]]
desc none
Skizzerz_Scissors.png Safety Skizzerz {{ Talk | Contribs | Spel Chek™ | VFG | RTFM }} 19:48, 27 January 2008 (CST)
Sims2, check the guide again. I added some more info from Wikipedia. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 19:54, 27 January 2008 (CST)

Thanks, I'm gonna need this information for other pages when I get to them.Sims2Guy 19:57, 27 January 2008 (CST)

You can also check Star Fox 64/Walkthrough for an example. --Notmyhandle (talk contribs) 01:14, 28 January 2008 (CST)
You can get the full Extension:ImageMap syntax at Wikipedia. Note that images used in image maps cannot have wikilinks (double square brackets) in their captions. IIRC that's noted as a bug, but I hit the restriction a couple days ago when editing a Wikipedia article. On the plus side, the image map is really easy to use. In particular, you specify the hot spots relative to the image's original size and Wikimedia adjusts automatically, so you don't have to re-specify the hot spots if you change the image's displayed size by specifing a npx parameter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philcha (talkcontribs) .