Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Carth: Difference between revisions

You can speak to Carth the moment you regain control in your Hideout after arriving on Taris. If you don't speak to him, you'll be prompted to do so later if he's in your party. However, you don't have to do so even then.

Carth: [Something seems to be bothering Carth. Maybe you should speak to him and see if you can get him to open up about it.]
1. [Speak to Carth.]	2. [Don't speak to him.]
Carth: Yes? What's on your mind?	Carth: [You decide to ignore Carth and continue on with your quest for now, though it might be a good idea to speak to him later.]

Dialog

1. I'd like to know some more about you, Carth.
Carth: Me? Well, I've been a star-pilot for the Republic for years. I've seen more than my share of wars… I fought in the Mandalorian Wars before all this started. But with all that, I've never experienced anything like the slaughter these Sith animals can unleash. Not even the Mandalorians were that senseless. My home world was one of the first planets to fall to Malak's fleet. The Sith bombed it into submission, and there wasn't a damn thing our Republic forces could do to stop them!
1. You're talking like it's your fault. Like you failed somehow.	2. I'm sorry, Carth. This must be very painful for you.	3. Calm down. I was just asking.
Carth: It shouldn't be my fault. I did everything I could… I followed my orders and did my duty. That shouldn't mean I failed them! I didn't!		Carth: You're the one who wanted to know more about me. Well this is it, this is what I am.
	Carth: I'm just a soldier; I go where the fleet Admirals tell me to. I follow my orders and I do my duty. It just… sigh doesn't seem right that doing that means I failed them! I didn't!

1. Them? Do you mean the people of your home world?	2. I'm sorry, Carth, I didn't mean to upset you.	3. Hey, why are you getting so mad at me? It's not like this was my fault!
Carth: Yes. No… no, that's not what I mean. I mean… I'm sorry. I'm not making much sense, am I?	Carth: I know. Don't worry about it. I just… must not be making much sense.	Carth: I know that. I'm not angry at you… don't think that. I must not be making much sense.
Carth: You probably mean well with your questions. I'm just not accustomed to talking about my past very much. At all, actually. I'm more used to taking action… keeping my mind focused on the business at hand. So let's just do that. If you have more questions, ask them later.

Carth You've discovered that Carth's home world was attacked by the Sith, though he was reluctant to talk about it. Perhaps you can talk more later, after you've gained more experience.

Level ups

Level ups unlock further dialogs once previous dialogs have been completed.

First

Dialog

1. Is this a good time to ask you some more questions?
♂ Carth: I guess I did say you could ask me questions later, didn't I? Is this really necessary?

A female character can flirt with him:

♀ Carth: I'm all ears, beautiful.
1. 'Beautiful'? Isn't that a little inappropriate?	2. Keep addressing me like that and you might lose an ear or two.	3. I like the sound of that.
Carth: Is there something else you'd prefer I called you?	Carth: Heh heh. A little bit touchy, are we? Is there something else you'd prefer I called you?	Carth: Which? The fact that I'm all ears or the beautiful part?
		1. Carth, are you flirting with me?
		Carth: Not really. Just a habit. You have something you'd rather I call you by?

4. Why do I get the impression that you're not serious?	4. Forget it. Let's get back to my questions.
Carth: Maybe I'm just avoiding your questions. Is this really necessary?	Carth: All business today, eh? Are these questions really necessary?

Otherwise:

1. How about my name?	2. I'd prefer you didn't call me anything. It's demeaning.		3. How about 'gorgeous'? I like that better.	2. The beautiful part. Keep calling me that.
Carth: Don't get yourself in a twist over it, gorgeous. I didn't mean anything by it.
1. There you go again!	2. That's no good, either.	3. Now that one I like. Call me that from now on.
Carth: Oh, for crying out -- fine. If it'll make you feel better, you call me something. Go ahead, come on, I can take it.
1. What? Don't be ridiculous.		Carth: I might consider it. What are you going to call me, in exchange?
Carth: What? Are you afraid you'll hurt my feelings? Come on, spit it out. You can do it.

3. How about "pushy thug"?	2. How about "sexist worm"?	1. How about "handsome thug"?

Carth: Is that it? You can do better than that!			Carth: I like the first part of that. I'm a bit more partial to "the most handsome pilot in the galaxy". What do you think?
1. Lobotomized Gamorrean!	2. Brainless, lice-ridden bantha!	3. Sexless marsh-toad!

Carth: Ouch. Heh heh heh. That is better. Well, I bet "beautiful" doesn't sound so bad in comparison now, does it?		1. Don't hold your breath.	2. I think I'm going to be ill.
1. Maybe not, but I still don't want you calling me that.	2. Ha ha! You are such a pain, you know that?	Carth: Well, then, I guess "gorgeous" will have to do until then, won't it? Kidding aside, I bet you're not about to give up on those questions of yours. Are they really necessary?
Carth: Stubborn as ever. Okay, you got me. I bet you have your heart set on those questions. Are they really necessary?	Carth: Guilty as charged. I'll bet you still have those questions in mind, though. Are they really necessary?

1. Not if you have a problem with it.	2. I just would like to know you better.	♀ 3. Don't be such a child. It's just a few questions.	♂ 3. Answer the damn questions, already.
Carth: No. No, I don't have a problem with it, really. Go ahead and interrogate me.	Carth: Oh. Well, if it's an interrogation you wanted, why didn't you say so?	Carth: Oh no, how can I resist a challenge to my manly pride, huh? Ha ha! Fine, you've made your point. Interrogate at will.	♂ 3. Answer the damn questions, already.
1. This isn't an interrogation. I never said that.	2. Excellent. Soon all your secrets will be mine!	♀ 2. Are you getting testy again?	Carth: Pretty snappy with the orders, are we? Okay, you got it… sir.
Carth: No, I was just joking, though you do seem to be full of questions. It's rather refreshing, to be honest.	Carth: All my secrets are purely of the mundane variety, unfortunately. Nothing worth extracting, though you're welcome to try.	Carth: I don't get testy. I get angry. And if I was angry, you wouldn't have to ask me if I was, let me assure you.
Carth: Let me ask you something first, though. I've been going through the battle aboard the Endar Spire over and over in my head since we crashed. Some things just don't add up for me. Maybe you could tell me what happened… from your perspective.

1. Like you said when we first met: Bastila didn't have time to use her powers.	2. Why ask me? I don't see the point.	3. I wasn't in a position to know what was going on, really.
Carth: True. Bastila is as powerful as they say… she's the one who defeated Darth Revan, after all. Hmm. I guess that no Jedi ability, no matter how powerful, makes up for being completely surprised and outmatched.	Carth: I'm just trying to figure it out. I saw enough men lose their lives needlessly during the Mandalorian Wars. It's… difficult to see that happening all over again.	Carth: Neither was I, to tell the truth. I was onboard as an advisor for the most part. The battle began so fast, it's anyone's guess as to what actually happened.
	Carth: We lost the ship and a lot of good people… and for what? On the hope that Jedi powers would save us, somehow. Not that Bastila had much opportunity to act.
Carth: We didn't choose that battle, anyway. It got forced on us. Hell, I'm just surprised that any of us are alive to talk about it. Come to think of it, it's more than a little surprising that you happen to be here, isn't it? Just what is your position with the Republic fleet, anyway?

1. Why? Are you accusing me of something?	2. I'm just a soldier. I'm sure there isn't anything unusual about that, is there?	2. I'm a scout. I was recruited into the fleet for my skills, if you must know.	2. I used to be a smuggler, if you must know. I was recruited into the fleet for my knowledge.
Carth: Not at all. I just think it's a bit odd that someone who got added to the crew roster at the last minute just happens to be one of the survivors.	Carth: Hell no… unless you consider that you were a last-minute addition to the crew roster and you just happen to be one of the survivors.	Carth: Well, that makes sense. Still… it seems a bit strange that someone who was a last-minute addition to the crew roster is one of the survivors.	Carth: A smuggler? I should have guessed. Isn't it odd, however, that a smuggler who was added to the crew at the last minute just happens to be alive?
1. You'd rather I wasn't?			2. What's so odd about me being added to the crew at the last minute?
Carth: Don't be ridiculous. You've more than proved yourself since the crash… we wouldn't have made it this far without you. But still…
3. Are you implying I had something to do with the crash?			Carth: You were the only one. Not to mention that Bastila's party was the one who requested your transfer.
Carth: No. Well… maybe. Don't get me wrong, it just seems odd that someone Bastila's party specifically requested to transfer aboard happened to survive.

1. I have no idea what you're talking about!	2. Why would Bastila request my transfer?	3. It doesn't make any difference. Go ahead and be paranoid.
		Carth: I'm not trying to be paranoid. It's just that I learned a long time ago that something which looks like a coincidence probably isn't. Especially when the Jedi are involved.
Carth: The Jedi requested numerous things when they came aboard… hell, they practically took over the ship, as far as I could tell. Considering your connection to Bastila, and the Jedi… whether you know it or not… your presence here seems a little convenient. I'm probably wrong and this is probably nothing, I know. I learned a long time ago not to take things at face value, however. And I hate surprises.

1. What do you mean by surprises?	2. I'm telling you, Carth, I had nothing to do with the crash.	3. Shouldn't we be trying to work together?
Carth: I mean I have to expect the unexpected. Just to be safe.	Carth: I expect you're right. I've got no real reason to suspect you of anything. Still… it's better to be safe than sorry, right?	Carth: I am working with you. I'd be a fool not to. I'd also be a fool not to expect the unexpected.

1. Are you always this suspicious?	2. Fine. Let's just get back to something important, then.	3. You do know we're on the same side, right?	4. Try something and it'll be the last mistake you make.
Carth: Look… it has nothing to do with you, personally. I don't trust anyone, and I have my reasons. And, no, I'm not going to discuss them. So can we just keep our mind on more important things?

1. I consider this important.	2. You haven't heard the last from me on this.	3. Yes, let's do that.
Carth: Alright, alright. You're pretty tenacious, you know that?	♀ Carth: Alright, alright. You must be the most damned persistent woman I've ever met.	Carth: Good. Like I said before, I prefer action to talk, anyway.
Carth: We'll talk about it… but later. Right now I just want to get going.

Carth Although he has agreed to work with you, you've learned that Carth is suspicious and mistrustful of others. There is probably a reason behind his mistrust, but he was reluctant to discuss it.

Second

Dialog

1. I want to discuss something with you.
Carth: You do? Fair enough. What do you want to discuss?
1. I want to talk about these issues you seem to have with me.	2. We didn't finish our conversation last time.	3. I'd like to know now if we have a problem.
Carth: Sigh I knew you wouldn't understand where I was coming from. Let me try to explain. You've got the skills of an elite commando, and you've saved my butt more than once. Between that and your facility with languages, I'm lucky you're here. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stop watching you or being wary. I'm just not built that way. Period.
1. Not built that way? That sounds like an excuse.	2. Why are you so hostile? What did I do to deserve this?	3. And what, exactly, are you watching me for?
Carth: Maybe so. But I've been betrayed before by people I… well, it won't happen again, that's all.	Carth: You, uh… haven't done anything yet. But there's no guarantee that you won't do anything in the future. I've been betrayed before by people and I… well, it won't happen again.	Carth: I don't know that, yet. Like I said before, it's probably nothing. But I've been betrayed before by people and I… well, it won't happen again, that's all.
1. So you want some guarantee that I won't betray you?!	2. I'm starting to get pretty tired of this attitude of yours.	3. Of course it won't happen again if you never trust anyone!
Carth: I don't know that you'll betray me. But there are no guarantees… not for you, not for me. You don't have to take it personally.	Carth: Yeah, well, you wouldn't be the first. Look… I don't expect you to be my friend. This is just the way I am, no need to take it personally.	Carth: Look… I'm not trying to insult you. This is just the way I am, no need to take it personally.

1. I'm beginning to wonder if you're even capable of trusting anyone.	3. No, I do take it personally!
Carth: Well, you can stop wondering. I'm not.	Carth: Well, that's too bad, then, because it's not going to change.

Otherwise:

2. Right. And how am I supposed to know that you won't betray us?
Carth: Me?
1. Yes, you! Why should I trust you, after all?	2. Why not you? Accusing other people is a good cover for a traitor.
Carth: You shouldn't. If you're smart, you won't trust anyone… not me, not Bastila, and especially not yourself.	Carth: I don't remember ever saying anything about "traitor". All I mean is that if you're smart, you won't trust anyone… not me, not Bastila and especially not yourself.

A female character can take it even more personally:

♀ 1. Don't tell me not to take it personally, you hairless Wookiee!
Carth: Hairless Wookiee? Alright, sister, just... just... just calm down before your head explodes.
1. We'll just see whose head explodes, you ungrateful monkey-lizard!	2. Don't tell me to calm down, you ignorant bantha!
Carth: Is that your idea of an insult? Come on, sister, take your best shot.
1. Gamorrean pig-man!	2. Drooling Bomarr cast-off!
Carth: Oh, ouch. I think you hurt my man-feelings with that one.
1. Well, you had it coming.	2. Don't patronize me.
Carth: I guess I did. Feel better now?	Carth: Wouldn't think of it. Feel better now?
1. Maybe a little.	2. Not really. This is still serious.
Carth: Good. Then maybe we can talk reasonably about this. All I've been trying to say is that this isn't personal. If you were smart, you wouldn't trust anyone, either... not me, not Bastila and especially not yourself.	Carth: Sigh Look... all I mean is that if you're smart, you won't trust anyone... not me, not Bastila and especially not yourself.

1. Ahhh… so you don't trust yourself, is that it?	2. Pretty pithy advice, I see.	3. I wouldn't want to live like that.
Carth: I don't need to be analyzed, thanks. Can we just get back to business?		Carth: Not all of us have the luxury of choice. I'm conditioned this way, sorry.

4. I didn't ask for your advice, nor do I need it.	1. I don't need someone around who doesn't trust me.	2. So leave. Be on your own, it's obviously what you want.	3. You sure you don't want to talk about it?	4. That settles that, I guess.
Carth: And I don't need all these questions. What I do need is to try and save the galaxy, if that's even possible.		Carth: It's not what I want. I have a duty and I intend to see it through. The galaxy's in danger and I want to save it… that's what I want!	Carth: No, I don't want to talk about it. What I want is to save the galaxy… if that's even possible.
Carth: Why is whether or not I trust you or anyone so damned important to you? Why… why do you even care? We don't have time for this, so can we please just… drop it. For now? Can we pick it up later if you really must, I… want to get underway.

Carth Despite being impressed with your abilities, Carth is still not willing to fully open up to you. Maybe if you give him some time he'll finally learn to trust you.

Third

Dialog

1. I just want to talk with you.
Carth: Oh? You want to argue some more, is that it?
1. I'm always up for a good fight.		2. I just want to know why you distrust me so much.	3. No, I don't want to argue with you.
♀ Carth: Ha! Can't say I've met a woman quite like you before. You're really something.	♂ Carth: So I've seen. If I were Malak I'd be a bit nervous to have you on my tail.	Carth: What does it matter that much? Why can't you just leave it be?	Carth: And I don't really want to argue with you, either. You seem… sincere enough, I guess.
Carth: I just don't trust easily, and for good reasons… which are my own.

1. But we have to work together, Carth, so it has plenty to do with me.	2. What reasons? I want to know.	3. Fine. You can stuff your reasons, then.	♀ 4. I can make you talk, Carth. Trust me.
Carth: Ahhh, damn it. I suppose I won't get any rest until I talk, will I? You want to know why I don't trust anyone? Fine, here goes.			Carth: Heh heh. Well I might be willing to take you up on that challenge. But uh, you're just not going to let up, are you? Fine... you want to know why I don't trust anyone? Here goes.
Carth: Five years ago the Jedi had just finished the war with the Mandalorians. Revan and Malak were heroes. I was damn proud to have served in their fleet. It was completely unexpected when they turned on us, invading the Republic while we were still weak. Nobody knew what to think, least of all me. Our heroes had become brutal, conquering Sith… and we were all but helpless before them. Think about it… if you can't even trust the best of the Jedi, who can you trust?

1. What do I have to do with Malak and Revan?	2. They turned to the dark side, obviously. Why is it so personal?	3. I suppose you can't. That must have been hard to take.
Carth: It… it's not that. It's… That's not what I mean. There were… there were others. Good, solid, trusted men who joined them.	Carth: I… of course the Jedi turned to the dark side. There were others, however, who weren't Jedi. Good men… trusted men who joined them.	Carth: I… it wasn't even that. There were others: good, solid men. Trusted men who turned on us, as well, and joined their cause.
Carth: Malak and Revan and the Sith deserve to die for what they've done… but the ones who fled the Republic and joined them are even worse. The dark side has nothing to do with why they joined the Sith. They deserve no mercy!

1. You say that with such… hatred.	2. I haven't joined the Sith, Carth.
Carth: I know. I… should apologize to you. I've become so accustomed to expecting the worst in others, and you've done nothing to deserve that. It's just… never mind. Let's just continue with what we were doing. I'd rather not talk about it.

Carth It's obvious Carth is emotionally scarred by the betrayals of friends and allies at the start of the Sith war. There's probably more to the story, but he doesn't want to discuss it right now.

Fourth

Dialog

1. I want to continue our discussion from before.
Carth: I thought I said I didn't want to talk about it anymore.
1. Don't you think you'd feel better if you discussed it?	2. Yes, but I'm bored, so spit it out.	3. I think you owe me an explanation, Carth.

♀ Carth: Listen, sister... just because we're working together does not mean you get to badger me with constant questions!

♂ Carth: Not particularly. I… guess it wouldn't hurt, exactly, either, though I don't know why you're so interested.	♂ Carth: Cute. Nice to know that you're so full of concern. Sigh Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt, though I don't know why you're so interested.	♀ 3. I'm not going to repeat myself, Carth, You owe me.
		♂ Carth: I… suppose you're right. Fine, then. But I don't know why you're so interested, but here it goes.

Otherwise:

1. Do we have another problem, now?	2. You're damn right it does.
Carth: Blast it if you aren't the most frustrating woman to talk to! Isn't there someone else you can harass for a little while?

1. I'm frustrating? Look who's talking!	2. And you say I'm frustrating to deal with.	2. What exactly is it about me that frustrates you?
Carth: What? Me? What did I do?		Carth: Oh no, I'm not falling for that one. I wasn't born yesterday, you know.

1. Oh, that's rich. Where have you been?	2. You don't know? Typical male.	1. Really? It's hard to tell.	3. Well, I wouldn't want you to feel harassed. Have it your way.	3. Never mind. I'll leave you alone, since I'm so frustrating.	3. Alright, then, I'll leave you alone if that's what you want.
Carth: I... sigh Okay, I give up. You win.			Carth: Wait... sigh I didn't mean it that way. Don't go, damn it.
Carth: Look, I suppose I... could use someone to talk to. I'm just not used to it. And I don't know why you're so interested. But here goes.

Carth: When I think of all the men who have betrayed us, the one that stands out above them all is the one I respected the most. Saul.
1. You say that name like I should know it.	2. That name sounds familiar.
Carth: You don't? I thought everyone did.	Carth: With good reason.
Carth: Admiral Saul Karath is the commander of the entire Sith fleet. He's half the reason Malak has done so well in the war. Saul was my commanding officer back when the Mandalorian Wars first began. He taught me everything about being a soldier… and I looked up to him. Saul approached me before he left. He talked to me about how the Republic was on the losing side… and about how I should start thinking of my survival. I know now that he was trying to recruit me into the Sith, but I couldn't have conceived of it back then. I argued with him and he got angry and he left. I never saw him again.
1. You didn't think he would betray the Republic?	2. How could you have not seen through that?
	Carth: I didn't want to, maybe. Are you so sure you would have?
Carth: Saul was my mentor… he led us to so many victories against the Mandalorians, even when things looked to be at their worst. I just… I couldn't conceive of it. He… he couldn't be serious. I was wrong, of course… he not only left us for the Sith, he… he gave them the codes to bypass our scanners. I remember waking up as the first of the Sith bombers snuck past our defenses and began destroying half of our docked ships. I knew right away what had happened. I… could have stopped him. I could have stopped it all.

1. So you blame yourself for trusting your friend?	2. Do you really believe that?	3. And that's why you feel so sorry for yourself?
Carth: I blame Saul, not myself. I was… I was stupid and I ignored the danger. He nearly destroyed us all.	Carth: I don't know. Maybe. He might have killed me if I'd tried, or I might have killed him. I was stupid, however, and I let him go.	Carth: Don't even start with that! I don't feel sorry for myself. I feel angry… at Saul and all those others. It's all I can think about sometimes!
Carth: I've fought Saul for years, now, and if I ever catch up to him… he will regret what he's done. He will regret it.
1. So that's all of it, then?	2. That's terrible. I feel awful for you.	3. I'd do the same thing in your shoes.
Carth: No. No, it's not.	Carth: Well… there's more to the story, I guess.
Carth: But I don't want to talk about it right now. Let's go.

Carth You've learned that Carth's mentor, Saul Karath, was one of the first to defect to the Sith cause. It's no wonder Carth has trust issues, though he seems reluctant to talk about it right now.

This is as far as you can advance this quest before escaping Taris.

Fifth

This dialog is unlocked after acquiring the first Star Map on Dantooine:

Dialog

1. You've been very quiet lately, you know that?
Carth: Have I been quiet? I suppose I have. I guess I just don't like being left out of the loop.

1. Left out of the loop? I don't understand.	2. I'm not the one leaving you out of the loop, Carth.	3. Oh, poor baby. You need filling in on some detail?
Carth: Left out of the loop. You know. Not being told anything… strung along. It's really starting to irritate me.	Carth: No? Well, you certainly aren't helping matters any, either, and it's really starting to irritate me.	♂ Carth: You want to be smart, do you? Fine. So long as I get some questions answered.

3. Oh, poor baby. You need filling in on some detail?			♀ 1. You were born out of the loop.
♀ Carth: Listen, sister, I don't remember reading anywhere that it's a requirement that you remain with us after we left Taris, yet here you are.			Carth: Very cute. If you got any cuter, you'd pass for a Gamorrean's sister.
1. Same could be said for you.	2. I have more of a purpose here than you do, flyboy.	3. Yes, here I am. And I'm not going anywhere.	1. The things you say!	2. Better than a Gamorrean's mother.
Carth: Well, damn it, I want to know why that is! I want some questions answered!	Carth: Well... yeah, true enough, I guess. But, damn it, I'm tired of nobody telling me anything!	Carth: Look, I'm serious. No one seems to want to tell me anything, and it's starting to irritate me.

Carth: For one thing, I want to know what the Jedi Council said to you. They pulled you in there and refused to tell me a thing about it.
Bastila: That is none of your concern, Carth, and you would do well to leave the matter be.	Carth: I'm rather curious to know what went on... and why they didn't keep you on Dantooine for training. Isn't that strange?
Carth: I respect you, Bastila, but you've been as close-mouthed as the rest of the Council. If you won't talk to me, then maybe somebody else will.	1. Why don't you ask Bastila?
	Carth: I would be more than happy to, but she's as close-mouthed as the rest of the Council. I'm hoping you'll be the one to enlighten me.

1. Why should anything the Jedi do seem strange to you?
Carth: I may not know much about the Jedi, but I do know they aren't famous for taking on old Padawans and sending them on dangerous assignments.
3. They thought it was more important that I help find the Star Maps than stay.
Carth: None of my business? Uh, I'm sorry… aren't I a part of this mission? The Jedi may be in charge, but I'm risking all the same things you are!
2. It's none of your business, frankly.
Carth: And why is that? You were a great help on Taris, but why would they keep you with us? Don't they… don't they have to train you?

1. They said there's a bond between Bastila and myself.	2. I've done pretty well so far.	1. Isn't that the point? Aren't we all in this together?	2. Get a hold of yourself. I'm sick of your paranoia.
Carth: A bond? What kind of bond? You mean to say that they told you you were “tied” to Bastila in some way? Heh, I have trouble believing that.	Carth: That's completely beside the point. The Jedi encouraged you to stay with us, and I don't believe the reasons they gave.	Carth: Are we? Why, then, does it seem like the Jedi know everything and leave the rest of us out in the cold?	Carth: You can be sick of whatever you like. What I'm sick of is being kept in the dark!

Carth: You're a neophyte Padawan who's been saddled with the responsibility of tracking down these Star Maps. Why? That's not normal!	Carth: I've been watching you... you can be cruel and impulsive. A Jedi without self-control or training, and yet the Council sends you on your way? Why?
Carth: I'm not trying to provoke you or imply that you're somehow responsible for the Jedi Council… but give me a hand, here! There has to be a reason!

1. Are you saying I'm not needed?	2. I'm here and that's not going to change. Get over it.	3. I'm sick of listening to you rant! Why don't you leave?!	4. Bastila and I have a bond. We have to do this together. That's all I'm going to say.
Carth: No, I don't… I didn't mean that you weren't wanted, or that I want to go! It's just… damn it!			Carth: And what does that mean? Is this more of that destiny garbage that the Jedi keep talking about? Well, that can't be it!
Carth: I'll tell you this much… I am not going to wait around until I'm betrayed again!

1. I am not going to betray you! I am not Saul!	2. And just what are you going to do about it?	3. I am sick of listening to this. Just shut up or leave!
Carth: Well, we'll see about that, won't we?	Carth: Nothing. Not yet. You just better hope I don't get a reason to.	Carth: Fine. You got it. Conversation over.
Carth: Look, I didn't mean it that way. I want to get to Saul, not… no… no, forget it. It seems all I can do is insult you, isn't it? Just forget I said anything. Let's… let's… just get on with what we were doing.

Carth Carth feels like he's being left out of the loop where the Jedi Council and Bastila are concerned. Because of the betrayals in his past, he's not reacting to the situation well. Hopefully in time he'll learn to cope with his emotional demons.

This dialog is unlocked after acquiring a second Star Map:

Dialog

1. We didn't end our last discussion very well…	2. Do you want to talk? You got pretty upset the last time we spoke.
Carth: I, ahhh... I'm not very good at this. I... I know I owe you an apology. Uh, more than one, probably. I was just so desperate to finally face Saul directly in the battle over Taris, and now the Jedi have us looking for these... these Star Maps. I know this mission is important, it's just... I feel a bit useless. I can fight, sure, but I'm no Jedi... all this feels completely out of my league.

1. And how does that excuse your actions?	2. Why don't you return to the front lines, then?	3. Maybe if you pull yourself together you won't be so useless.
Carth: It doesn't, I know. It's... been a while since I even had to think about that sort of thing.	Carth: Because this is more important. This may really, finally, make a difference... I suppose even if I can't figure out everything that's going on, I still want to help if I can.	Carth: You don't exactly pull any punches, do you? Not that I don't deserve it, I suppose.
Carth: I just hate not knowing what's going on and feeling this... helpless. But I shouldn't have taken that out on you. I've been a royal pain in the backside, haven't I?
1. Not really. I couldn't care less what you think.	2. You sure have.	3. Don't worry about it, Carth.
Carth: I guess there's no harm done then. Still I, uh... I should know better by now.	Carth: Ha! Well... I guess I should be at least a little pleased that I haven't lost my touch.	Carth: No, I do worry about it. I've traveled the lanes more than once, I should know better than this.

Carth: So... I'm sorry. Will you accept my apology?

2. No, I won't. Just keep quiet and do what you're told from now on.
Carth: Don't drown me in sentiment, already. Sigh Fair enough, let's move on.
Carth Carth and you have nothing more to talk about, for the moment.

That response completes this quest prematurely. Otherwise:

Dialog

1. Only if you agree to work with me, for once.
Carth: Done! Let's get underway, then, shall we... partner?

♀ 1. I don't know. Maybe you should work for it, a bit.
Carth: Oh? I don't know if I like the sound of that...

1. Don't you want me to accept your apology?
Carth: I don't know. What am I going to have to do for it?
1. Blow away the bad guy. Save the damsel in distress. The usual.	2. Just make sure you don't need to make any more apologies. Deal?	3. Just a little kiss. How about it?
		Carth: I...heh, I really think that we should, ah... get going.
Carth: Oh, the usual. Well that's not so hard. Let's get to it, then, shall we?	Carth: Done! Let's get underway, then, shall we... partner?	1. No kiss, then?	2. I was only joking, Carth, relax.
		Carth: I'm sorry. I'm glad things are better between us, now. We should... we should go.

2. No need to start sweating, Carth. I was only teasing.
Carth: So... you do accept my apology. Huh. Good. Good. I'm glad. You know you, uh... you aren't so bad to have around, you know that?
1. I know. I'm very charming, I'm told.	2. I knew there was a reason we kept you.	3. I have my uses. Let's go.
Carth: More than that. But... anyway... we should be off...	Carth: Right. Off we go.

Carth Carth has apologized for his previous behavior, and has promised to try not to punish his current companions for the betrayals of people in his past. Whether he can accomplish this remains to be seen.

Sixth

Dialog

1. Tell my why you want revenge on Saul so badly.
Carth: I already told you. He betrayed us all.
1. It just seems to be more… personal than that, is all.	2. Come on, Carth, you aren't fooling me.
Carth: Well, there... there is more to it. I'm... I'm sure you don't want to hear about it.

1. I asked, didn't I?	2. I do, if it's alright with you.	3. Spit it out already.
Carth: It's just that I... don't talk about it very much. Ok? I told you about my homeworld. Telos. Four years ago, Saul led the Sith fleet there and demanded its surrender. The planet refused and Saul proceeded to devastate its entire surface. Millions died. I had... a wife and son on Telos. I thought they would be safe there. But my task force arrived too late to be of much help. We didn't have enough medical supplies. The colony was burning and the dying were everywhere. I remember holding my wife and screaming for the medics. They... didn't come in time.

1. That's terrible, I'm sorry. I didn't know.	2. What happened after that?
Carth: Of course not. How could you? I... had nothing left after that, really. I devoted myself to the fleet. Hunting Saul was my only purpose.	Carth: I had... had nothing left after that, really. I devoted myself to the fleet. Hunting Saul was my only purpose.
Carth: I... miss them. I know killing Saul won't bring them back, and it won't make me happy again... but I have to do it. I don't expect you to understand. I have to pay him back for what he's done... I have to. It's all I have left.

3. So what? Tough break. You haven't gotten over it yet?
Carth: Gotten over it? Look - my family was everything to me. Once they were gone... I had nothing. Hunting Saul became my only purpose.
Carth Carth and you have nothing more to talk about, for the moment.

That response results in the same journal update as the previous dialog after completing this quest prematurely, but still allows you to continue and unlock the next dialog about Finding Dustil. Otherwise:

Dialog

1. I didn't mean to pry.
Carth: No, it's alright, I don't mind. You deserved some kind of... explanation.
2. What was she like, your wife?
♂ Carth: She had courage and ... and she was stubborn.	♀ Carth: She had courage... and she was stubborn. Heh... a little bit like you in that respect.
Carth: I could never talk her out of anything once she put her mind to it. And she hated it when I signed back onto the fleet at the start of the war. I had planned on... on leaving soon, to join her...
4. So this is where all that anger comes from.
Carth: Yes. I can't forgive Saul for this. He took everything from me, even... even my trust. I hope you can understand that.

1. So what happened to your son? You didn't say.
Carth: His name was Dustil and I don't know what happened to him. The colony was a complete ruin, and we never found any trace of him. I made inquiries and followed the reports from Telos for years, but... I stopped. Anyway... I hope that answers your questions. Let's, uh... let's continue with what we were doing.

Carth You've learned that Carth's wife and son were lost when Saul Karath led the Sith fleet against Carth's homeworld, making him swear vengeance on the man he once admired. Whether he will ever get a chance to make good on his oath remains to be seen.

Finding Dustil

After acquiring a second Star Map and completing the dialog unlocked by a Sixth level up, if Carth is in your party then a man named Jordo may approach and speak to you in one of the following locations:

Dantooine	Tatooine	Kashyyyk	Manaan	Korriban
Jedi Enclave	Docking Bay	Czerka Landing Platform	Docking Bay	No

Dialog

Jordo: Carth! Carth Onasi, is that you?
Carth: Jordo?
Jordo: It is you, isn't it? I knew it when I laid eyes on you! You old spaceddog, how have you been? I thought for sure you'd be fighting on some ship out there.
Carth: I was. I crashed.
Jordo: Ha ha ha! That's pretty rich. I can't imagine what it would take to keep you on the ground.

♂ Jordo: Must have something to do with your friend, here, hey? How's it going?	♀ Jordo: Must have something to do with your pretty friend, here, hey? How do you do, miss?

1. Can we hurry this up...?	2. You're a friend of Carth, I take it?	3. Nice to meet you, Jordo.
Jordo: Oh, I apologize. You folks are probably busy, aren't you? I just wanted to catch up with Carth, that's all.	Jordo: Sure am. We joined the militia together back on Telos. That was a lot of years ago, of course.	3. Nice to meet you, Jordo.

Carth: So, what are you doing here, Jordo? The last time I saw you was on, u... well, Telos, actually.
Jordo: Yeah... it's a shame about home. Telos still hasn't recovered. The family and I moved on, and I'm working for Czerka now. I didn't see you after... er, what I mean is, my condolences on your wife. I heard what happened. At least your boy made it through alright.
Carth: My... boy? You mean... Dustil?
Jordo: Yes, of course. I saw him at my last stop, on Korriban, though he didn't recognize me. You... didn't know he was there?
Carth: No! Jordo, Dustil has been missing since the attack on Telos! Are you... are you absolutely certain it was him?!
Jordo: Yeah. I'd recognize Dustil anywhere. Positive. He's, uh... he's joined the Sith, Carth...
Carth: What do you mean he's joined the Sith?
Jordo: There's an academy for the Sith on Korriban. He's a student there. I saw him suited up in their outfit and everything. Sorry... I thought you knew.
Carth: No... no, I... I didn't. Well, thanks for telling me, Jordo.
Jordo: Sure, no problem. Good to see you again, Carth. Hope everything works out with Dustil.

Carth: Dustil... Dustil is alive! We have to go to the Korriban academy and find him!
1. We have other priorities, Carth.	2. I understand. We'll go as soon as possible.	3. Are you sure that's wise?
Carth: You think I don't know that? I just... if there's a chance we can try to find him... I don't want to wait to track him down, if possible.	Carth: Thank you. I... I just have to see him. I have to know what happened to him.	Carth: I don't know. I don't know why Dustil would be with the Sith... but I... I have to find out. There's simply no choice.
Carth: All this time I've thought he was... he must be a man by now...

Finding Dustil You ran into an old friend of Carth's... who stunned Carth with the news that he had seen Carth's son, Dustil. The only hitch seems to be that Dustil has joined the Sith. He is a student at the Sith academy on Korriban. Carth has urged you to go there at the earliest opportunity.

If you try to talk to him about it at any time before Finding Dustil on Korriban:

1. Do you want to talk?
Carth: Talk about what? The only thing I want to do right now is find Dustil. If he's alive... well, there's just nothing else I want to think about. I'll understand if we can't look for him right now, but if we could it would be a huge load off my mind.

If Dustil is killed, then any romance with a female character dies with him:

Dialog

1. Do you want to talk about it?
Carth: There's nothing to talk about. I failed my son... just as I failed my wife. I thought that if I ever found him... I just can't believe he's dead. I... you should have stopped him! You should have done something to prevent this!
1. Me? Why am I suddenly at fault?	2. Don't try blaming me for your problems, Carth.
Carth: Oh, don't give me that innocent look! You can talk a Hutt out of his credits, you could have found a way... you could have saved him!

1. That seems a lot to expect from me.	2. He was a Sith, Carth, remember?	3. You're right. I should have tried.
Carth: Is it? You seem just fine at pulling off the near-impossible... when you want to.	Carth: He was my son!!	3. You're right. I should have tried.

Carth: Why didn't you want to? You knew how important finding Dustil was to me! You... you've helped others, why not him? Why not me?	Carth: I can't help but wonder if part of you didn't enjoy this. I thought we might be friends, but with you... heh, who can tell?

1. I'm sorry, Carth. I wish I could have stopped this.	2. Stop trying to put all the blame on me.	1. You think I enjoyed it? That's pretty low.	3. We're not friends, Carth.
Carth: You could have. But... you're only partly to blame. I'm to blame for all the rest.	Carth: All the blame? No. Part of the blame, though... part of the blame is yours. The rest is mine.	Carth: Is it? I find it hard to tell which side you're on, sometimes. Still... not all the blame is yours. Most of it is mine.	Carth: No, I see that. I don't know what I was expecting, telling you all I did. The blame is mostly mine for this, anyway.

Carth: I... I wish we hadn't come. I wish I'd never found him.
1. I'm sorry for your loss, Carth.	2. You didn't fail him, Carth. You did your best.	3. Wishing won't help matters, will it?
Carth: I'm sorry, too. And I'm sorry I ever met you.	Carth: No, I did fail him. And so did you. I wish I'd never met you.	Carth: No. If it did, I would never have met you.
Carth: I... no, I didn't mean that. Please... maybe it would be better if we continued with the mission. I want to... take my mind off this. Saving the galaxy is what's important now. My son... I can mourn my son later. When we're done. So... let's just go.

Carth Carth and you have nothing more to talk about, for the moment.

Banter

Carth may speak to other party members as well when both are in your party:

Bastila

Carth: Bastila, I was wondering something. How did those Vulkars manage to capture a famous Jedi like you? Were you knocked out when your escape pod crashed?
Bastila: No, I was conscious. But my Force powers were exhausted from using my Battle Meditation in the battle for the Endar Spire. Without my help you might never have gotten off the ship alive.
Carth: Fair enough. But I've seen you Jedi in action. There's no way those thugs would have stood a chance against your lightsaber.
Bastila: My lightsaber was… misplaced. I couldn't find it after the crash. I looked everywhere in that pod. The Vulkars came and overwhelmed me even as I was searching for my weapon.
Carth: Wait a minute, let me get this straight. You lost your lightsaber? Ha-ha! I mean, isn't that a violation of some kind of Jedi code or something?

1. Of all the Jedi in the galaxy, why do we get one who's absent-minded?	2. Maybe losing lightsabers is a side-effect of her Battle Meditation.	3. Leave her alone, Carth.
Bastila: This is no laughing matter! During the crash my lightsaber must have… it must have fallen from my belt and rolled under my seat! The Vulkars probably found it there when they searched the wreckage.
Carth: Hey, hey, hey, don't get mad. I'm sorry. It's just funny to think of a legendary Jedi losing her lightsaber. Take my advice: this is one detail you might want to keep out of the history texts.
Bastila: I hardly consider myself a legend, Carth. Though I will consider your advice when I relate these events to the Jedi Council. There is no need for them to know every detail of what transpired.

Bastila

Carth: Bastila, did you ever think about joining all the Jedi who were running off to follow Revan and Malak when they went to fight the Mandalorians?
Bastila: That was nearly five years ago. I was still an apprentice, my Battle Meditiation hadn't even manifested itself. Yet even then I had the wisdom to obey the will of the Council. Unlike Revan.
Carth: I guess. Still, do you ever wonder if things could have been different? Would Revan and Malak still have been corrupted if the Council had supported them instead of dragging its feet?
Bastila: Do not blame Revan's corruption on the Council! Your Republic saw only the threat of the Mandalorians, but the wisdom of the Masters saw beyond the immediate threat.

1. What did they see, exactly?	2. Sounds like you're just making excuses, Bastila.
Bastila: There was something lurking out there, something that devoured Revan and Malak – and many other Jedi. Had the Council sent us all into the unknown, how many more would have fallen?
Carth: So you're saying we should have done nothing? Just let the Mandalorians conquer us unopposed? I mean, the Republic was under attack, and the Order abandoned us!
Bastila: We did not abandon you! But the Council were not about to throw lives away foolishly. In time, we would have aided you against the Mandalorians. But you couldn't wait. Revan and Malak offered a quicker answer, and the Republic chose to walk the easy path rather than the path of wisdom. Now we see the results all around us. You asked me if I think things could have been different? I know they could have! If Revan had only listened to the Council, millions of innocent people would still be alive.
Carth: Yeah, right. And every single one of them would be speaking Mandalorian. I think we're done here. Let's just get back to the task at hand.

Canderous

Canderous: Carth, you fought in the Mandalorian Wars, didn't you? We may have faced each other in combat. What battles were you in?
Carth: I try not to think about my past battles too much. The horrors of war are something I'd rather not relive.
Canderous: The horrors of war? My people know only the glory of battle. I'm disappointed in you, Carth. I thought a warrior like you would understand.

1. Carth isn't like you, Canderous.	2. Yeah, Carth. When did you get all peace-loving on me?	3. Keep it cool, you two. I don't want this getting out of hand.
Carth: I'm not a warrior, I'm a soldier. There's a difference. Warriors attack and conquer, they prey on the weak. Soldiers defend and protect the innocent – mostly from warriors.
Canderous: Nice speech. I bet you tell yourself that every night so you can sleep. But I accept who and what I am. I don't have to justify it with words – victory in battle is my justification!
Carth: Justification through victory? So what happens when you lose? You know, like you did against us.
Canderous: You had us outnumbered five to one. You had more ships, more troops, more supplies and the Jedi on your side. And we still made the Republic tremble before we fell!
Carth: Nice speech. I bet you tell yourself that every night so you can sleep. I don't want to talk about this anymore, Canderous. The war is over. You lost.

Jolee

Carth: So, Jolee, you decided to leave your little hermitage in the forest and come help us stop the Sith. I guess you realized this was worth coming out of retirement for, huh?
Jolee: Yeah, that's right, sonny. The Sith are the greatest evil to hit the galaxy since, well, the Mandalorians. And they're the worst thing since Exar Kun. Blah, blah, blah, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Carth: Okay, old man, you lost me there. Are you trying to make a point?
Jolee: Look, everybody always figures the time they live in is the most epic, most important age to end all ages. But tyrants and heroes rise and fall, and historians sort out the pieces.

1. Are you saying what we're doing isn't important?	2. If you feel that way, why did you come with us?	3. I think it's pretty clear that Malak is the tyrant in this case.
Jolee: Malak is a tyrant who should be stopped. If he conquers the galaxy we're in for a couple of rough centuries. Eventually it'll come around again, but I'd rather not wait that long. So we do what we have to do, and we try to stop the Sith. But don't start thinking this war - your war - is more important than any other war just because you're in it.
Carth: That's an interesting theory, but I don't buy it. The Republic stands for something; it's stood for something for fifteen thousand years. And if it falls, everything will change forever.
Jolee: You believe whatever you need to to get you through this, sonny. The bottom line is we both want to stop Malak, so let's not get hung up on the details. Let's just get back to stopping him.

Mission

Mission: Hey, Carth. You're a pilot for the Republic, right? You've been all over the galaxy I bet, right? So tell me, how would you rate Taris compared to other worlds you've seen?
Carth: I'll be honest, Mission. Taris would rate pretty low. The prejudice, the rich spoiling themselves while the poor are crushed beneath them – not a pretty picture.
Mission: Yeah, but that's only since the Sith occupation. Before that… well, I guess it wasn't all that different, really. Hmm… maybe Taris ain't as great as I thought, you know?
Carth: Trust me, Mission. There are a lot of worlds better than Taris. There are worse, too. But Taris is no place for a kid to live on her own – even a kid who's got a Wookiee to look out for her.
Mission: Hey, I ain't no kid! And I look out for Zaalbar as much as he looks out for me. Big Z's my friend, not my babysitter! Geez, I come ask you a question and you give me a lecture!
Carth: Don't you snap at me, missy! You want a lecture? How's this: only bratty little children fly off the handle because of a simple comment.

1. Settle down right now – both of you!	2. You're not going to take that from him, are you Mission?
Mission: I don't have to listen to you, Carth! You ain't my father – though you're sure old enough to be! So keep your lectures inside your withered old head, 'cause I don't need 'em!
Carth: And I sure as hell don't need this. Let's just drop it and get back to what we were doing.

Mission

Mission: Uh, hey Carth. Can I... can I talk to you for a second?
Carth: Are you ready to have a civil chat? Or are is this going to be another childish tantrum?
Mission: Tantrum? I'm trying to apologize, you nerf-herder! Uh... I mean... I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get mad at you. It's just that I'm sick of everyone treating me like I'm a helpless kid.
Carth: Yeah, I know. And I'm sorry about what I said, too. I'm just a little on edge lately. Not surprising considering all we've been through. But I shouldn't take it out on you.

1. It's about time you two made up.	2. What's with all the apologies? I was hoping for another fight!
Carth: Mission, you have to know that we don't think you're helpless. Look where we are, look at what we're doing. You're not just along for the ride. We need you.
Mission: You really mean it, don't you? Nobody's ever said anything like that to me before, not even Big Z. He might think it, but he's not really one for words, you know. Thanks, Carth.
Carth: Ah, it's no big deal. I know how it is. Sometimes you just need to hear a few words of encouragement. Kids are like that.
Mission: Kids are like that?? Listen you... oh, I get it. Okay, you got me. You're pretty funny, Carth. For an old guy. Come on, you geezer - let's get back to what we were doing.